On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 07:50 AM, Eben Moglen wrote:
        1.  Why is it that we don't presently observe instances of the
       problem we are trying to solve?  Patent infringement
       lawsuits have not been brought against free software
       programs, though there are lots of software patents and a
       certain serious number of infringement actions.  Is the
       non-occurrence simply an artifact of probability, or are
       there existing social and legal mechanisms that already
       establish a gradient against such actions, a form of
       "natural immunity" which our licensing or other
       defense arrangements might act to strengthen?

I'll echo Arnaud by saying it is a combination of lacking a purse that can be pilfered and the bad PR that would result. However, I have been informed that there have been situations in which large companies using our software have been approached by patent-owning companies, either for the sake of demanding fees for use of our software or as a counter-claim for the purpose of cross-licensing. It is therefore a major concern for the companies who participate in our projects.

        2.  If I am a patent-holder wishing to sue some part of the
       free software ecology for patent infringement, either in
       order to obtain license revenue or in order to disrupt the
       free software system, couldn't I build a separated special
       purpose entity that would hold the relevant patent(s) and
       conduct the litigation, thus insulating my main businesses
       from the retaliatory effect of license cancellations?

Typically that is handled by defining "You" or "Recipient" to the same extent that I defined "Contributor" in the proposed license.

....Roy



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