On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Eli Billauer wrote:
> There is only one solution, and it's called Another Place. Haifa University looks
>like an excellent alternative
> (the Perl Mongers are starting to take over some room there).
Two problems:
1) You actually claim that where there's a security leak (in my case, a
security leak is that you can bring your car in with an "excuse". Now
think that this person doesn't come for this very specific purpose), we
should have a Linux party.
2) The Haifux club's core is found in the Technion, including its
instaparties. I am talking about where it is situated, not about the
audience ofcourse. As Shlomo Yona, who studies in Haifa University,
arranges his Perl meetings in Haifa University (naturally), the Haifux
parties are arranged in the Technion (naturally). The Technion supports
it, and part of the success is also because of the Technion's support for
the Haifux events. What you are actually suggesting is to get elsewhere,
because the Technion is strict about the gate's security.
>
> Assuming that the situation is Israel won't get any better until the next party, no
>cars will be let in for a
> "Linux Day". You can't publish in advance that people can get into the technion with
>a metallic box without having
> it examined, and expect that the security will let them in.
Well, first of all - fact is that people arrive with computers.. You know
what people can hide inside computers, so why not to cancel such an event at
all?! That's not the issue though. The issue is that we can actually know
*in advance*, who is supposed to get in and who is not. At least, this
way, everything is logged and known in advance, in case something might
happen. That's the least that we can, and probably should do.
>
> You can't get into the Technion with a car on Friday eves at 22:00, with nothing at
>all today. I'm talking about
> regular dancing evenings at the Technion, in conjunction with Agudat HaStudentim. So
>does anyone expect people to
> come in with cars in the middle of the day, for a single event, not officially
>connected with the Technion?
This event is supported by the Technion, and the Technion agrees to it,
including the ads (do you really think that we could actually have Actcom
and Beyond Security as sponsors in an event inside the Technion, just like
that? It was agreed in the advance and the Technion knows about it).
Moreover, this event happens once a semester or once a year, and not once
a day (you have dances in the Technion almost every day), and we can get
arranged in advance. Another option is to limit the people who will be
allowed to insert their cars to the Technion (first 100 win, or something
like that. A script will tell the person if he became one of the lucky
100.. etc.), so some will have to walk with their computers from the gate.
You can't do that with the dances. Every day different cars will arrive
(and probablly more than 100). I am sure that security speaking, once or
twice a year, something good can be arranged.
>
> > > Maybe you should think on asking people to make "reservations", asking
> > > them to decide in advance if they will come in the morning, evening, or
> > > what? I'm not saying that people that don't have a reservation will be
> > > turned away - just that they will be given lower priority in the queue.
> >
> > I don't know how trustful it will be. On the site - we have only had 12
> > people who actually "registered" themselves to the event.
>
> Given how well-hidden the registration opportunity is on the site, and the fact that
>there is no reason stated why
> someone should registrate, 12 people is a lot. If the registration meant that you
>had your timeslot promised, I
> think that many more would do that.
Probably. And the "reason for the registeration" (except for us to know
how many will arrive) could be more specific. I believe that it's worth
talking at the club (including other issues which were raised here).
>
> Giving a cellular phone number to someone who coordinates the schedule during the
>day could be the ultimate
> solution. Call, then come.
I'm not sure that it would be the ultimate solution. If the person already
reads the instructions in the site, and is willing to arrive - I am sure
that he would mostly prefer to write there that he will arrive, including
his details and time of arrival. Maybe we could combine that with a phone
call ("Please call us at least one hour before your original arrival time
(or maybe until noon or so). If not, your car's entrance is not promised").
Adir.
>
> Eli
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