I appreciate Karla's characterization better "I am not making an assumption
as to why our attrition is higher, but I do think it is worth
investigating."

But, I don't even think it's necessary to argue if it is high, or low, or
higher or lower compared to this town or another town. I think it's
perfectly reasonable to just ask the school committee to make an inquiry to
the administration, "Are students / parents currently asked when they leave
the district, why they are leaving?  If not, how can we support putting a
process in place to track where students are going, and why, so we can
better understand flows out of the school system".   I imagine there are
some privacy laws in place that would prevent all data from being released,
but aggregate data could be useful.  I also imagine some data is available
given that we probably transfer school records to at least know
disposition, if not the reason.

- Andy



On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:04 PM Peter Speert <[email protected]> wrote:

> Excellent point, Barb. Would it be feasible to send questionnaires to
> families that have recently left the school system to ask what motivated
> them?
>
> Peter Speert
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Barbara Low <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Without exit interviews, we don't know why that is taking place. And if a
> child is removed from the Lincoln School for whatever reason, it is very
> easy for the rest of the children in the family to follow even if they lack
> the precipitating issue. Different vacation schedules can be a very strong
> reason for the family's convenience. How do we not lose the first child? No
> one should object to gathering more information so school actions are not
> taken or avoided due to ignorance.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob
> Kupperstein <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:23 AM
> *To:* Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to
> 2016
>
> I've been in Lincoln for over 30 years now and parents have been moving
> kids out of Lincoln schools ever since I can remember.   They do it for a
> variety of reasons and academic excellence is often *not* the main
> reason.    At different times I remember parents being concerned about
> discipline in the schools, lack of structure, lack of desired
> extracurricular activities, etc.   Very often, many parents want their kids
> to go to schools similar to the ones they went to, whether that means
> private schools, parochial schools, more structured, ..., whatever.
>
> I'd caution against taking *this* data as a sign that Lincoln schools
> aren't performing well enough.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:13 AM Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Since the topic of trends has come up, I pulled together attrition data
> for previous years, straight from the DOE website:
>
> School 2016-2017 2017-2018 2018-2019 2019-2020 2020-2021 2021-2022
> 2022-2023
> Lincoln 6.2 6.8 7.1 6.8 7.8 5.0 8.5
> Carlisle 2.7 3.7 4.0 2.9 4.3 2.3 3.5
> Dover/Sherborn 2.7 3.0 3.1 3.1 4.8 4.1 3.0
> Lexington 3.7 3.0 4.0 2.5 6.2 5.9 4.2
> Going back as far as 2016, Lincoln School consistently has the highest
> attrition in this group (with only one single exception in 2021 where
> Lexington was higher, but we were still higher than Carlisle and
> Dover/Sherborn). Getting this data is a very manual process, which is why I
> focused on our similar districts plus Lexington that was used as a
> comparison, but I am happy to add other towns if people are interested.
>
> It's not a difference of 1 - 2 students. Carlisle has a similar size to
> ours (383 in grades 2-7 versus our 356). If we had had their attrition
> coming into 2022-2023, we would have lost 18 fewer children. I am not
> making an assumption as to why our attrition is higher, but I do think it
> is worth investigating.
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