Thank you. So we know who leaves to go to private schools, and who simply move. Important info. Again, thanks for answering that. ------ Sara Mattes
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Caitlin Hogue <[email protected]> wrote: > > Where students go is already collected in the district's SIS. It is required > for reporting to DESE. > > Katy > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:29 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Simply documenting where they went would be a good and non-intrusive start. >> Maybe that is already done. >> >> Some might be reluctant to answer a survey, or participate in an interview, >> but simply documenting where the child went would give some clues. >> >> >> >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Barbara Low <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I found hope that the new super and principal would take action to do exit >>> interviews or a survey or somehow gather information that will hopefully be >>> useful going forward. >>> >>> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device >>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >>> From: Peter Speert <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:04:21 PM >>> To: Barbara Low <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Cc: Bob Kupperstein <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Karla >>> Gravis <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Lincoln Talk >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to 2016 >>> >>> Excellent point, Barb. Would it be feasible to send questionnaires to >>> families that have recently left the school system to ask what motivated >>> them? >>> >>> Peter Speert >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Barbara Low <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Without exit interviews, we don't know why that is taking place. And if a >>>> child is removed from the Lincoln School for whatever reason, it is very >>>> easy for the rest of the children in the family to follow even if they >>>> lack the precipitating issue. Different vacation schedules can be a very >>>> strong reason for the family's convenience. How do we not lose the first >>>> child? No one should object to gathering more information so school >>>> actions are not taken or avoided due to ignorance. >>>> From: Lincoln <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Bob Kupperstein >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:23 AM >>>> To: Karla Gravis <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> Cc: Lincoln Talk <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to 2016 >>>> >>>> I've been in Lincoln for over 30 years now and parents have been moving >>>> kids out of Lincoln schools ever since I can remember. They do it for a >>>> variety of reasons and academic excellence is often not the main reason. >>>> At different times I remember parents being concerned about discipline in >>>> the schools, lack of structure, lack of desired extracurricular >>>> activities, etc. Very often, many parents want their kids to go to >>>> schools similar to the ones they went to, whether that means private >>>> schools, parochial schools, more structured, ..., whatever. >>>> >>>> I'd caution against taking this data as a sign that Lincoln schools aren't >>>> performing well enough. >>>> >>>> -Bob >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:13 AM Karla Gravis <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Since the topic of trends has come up, I pulled together attrition data >>>> for previous years, straight from the DOE website: >>>> >>>> School 2016-2017 2017-2018 2018-2019 2019-2020 >>>> 2020-2021 2021-2022 2022-2023 >>>> Lincoln 6.2 6.8 7.1 6.8 7.8 5.0 8.5 >>>> Carlisle 2.7 3.7 4.0 2.9 4.3 2.3 3.5 >>>> Dover/Sherborn 2.7 3.0 3.1 3.1 4.8 4.1 3.0 >>>> Lexington 3.7 3.0 4.0 2.5 6.2 5.9 4.2 >>>> >>>> Going back as far as 2016, Lincoln School consistently has the highest >>>> attrition in this group (with only one single exception in 2021 where >>>> Lexington was higher, but we were still higher than Carlisle and >>>> Dover/Sherborn). Getting this data is a very manual process, which is why >>>> I focused on our similar districts plus Lexington that was used as a >>>> comparison, but I am happy to add other towns if people are interested. >>>> >>>> It's not a difference of 1 - 2 students. Carlisle has a similar size to >>>> ours (383 in grades 2-7 versus our 356). If we had had their attrition >>>> coming into 2022-2023, we would have lost 18 fewer children. I am not >>>> making an assumption as to why our attrition is higher, but I do think it >>>> is worth investigating. >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>
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