Simply  documenting where they went would be a good and non-intrusive start.
 Maybe that is already done.

Some might be reluctant to answer a survey, or participate in an interview, but 
simply documenting where the child went would give some clues.



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Sara Mattes




> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Barbara Low <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I found hope that the new super and principal would take action to do exit 
> interviews or a survey or somehow gather information that will hopefully be 
> useful going forward.
> 
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> From: Peter Speert <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:04:21 PM
> To: Barbara Low <[email protected]>
> Cc: Bob Kupperstein <[email protected]>; Karla Gravis 
> <[email protected]>; Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to 2016
>  
> Excellent point, Barb. Would it be feasible to send questionnaires to 
> families that have recently left the school system to ask what motivated 
> them? 
> 
> Peter Speert
> 
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>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Barbara Low <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Without exit interviews, we don't know why that is taking place. And if a 
>> child is removed from the Lincoln School for whatever reason, it is very 
>> easy for the rest of the children in the family to follow even if they lack 
>> the precipitating issue. Different vacation schedules can be a very strong 
>> reason for the family's convenience. How do we not lose the first child? No 
>> one should object to gathering more information so school actions are not 
>> taken or avoided due to ignorance.
>> From: Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Kupperstein 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:23 AM
>> To: Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to 2016
>>  
>> I've been in Lincoln for over 30 years now and parents have been moving kids 
>> out of Lincoln schools ever since I can remember.   They do it for a variety 
>> of reasons and academic excellence is often not the main reason.    At 
>> different times I remember parents being concerned about discipline in the 
>> schools, lack of structure, lack of desired extracurricular activities, etc. 
>>   Very often, many parents want their kids to go to schools similar to the 
>> ones they went to, whether that means private schools, parochial schools, 
>> more structured, ..., whatever.
>> 
>> I'd caution against taking this data as a sign that Lincoln schools aren't 
>> performing well enough.
>> 
>> -Bob
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:13 AM Karla Gravis <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Since the topic of trends has come up, I pulled together attrition data for 
>> previous years, straight from the DOE website:
>> 
>> School       2016-2017       2017-2018       2018-2019       2019-2020       
>> 2020-2021       2021-2022       2022-2023
>> Lincoln      6.2     6.8     7.1     6.8     7.8     5.0     8.5
>> Carlisle     2.7     3.7     4.0     2.9     4.3     2.3     3.5
>> Dover/Sherborn       2.7     3.0     3.1     3.1     4.8     4.1     3.0
>> Lexington    3.7     3.0     4.0     2.5     6.2     5.9     4.2
>> 
>> Going back as far as 2016, Lincoln School consistently has the highest 
>> attrition in this group (with only one single exception in 2021 where 
>> Lexington was higher, but we were still higher than Carlisle and 
>> Dover/Sherborn). Getting this data is a very manual process, which is why I 
>> focused on our similar districts plus Lexington that was used as a 
>> comparison, but I am happy to add other towns if people are interested.
>> 
>> It's not a difference of 1 - 2 students. Carlisle has a similar size to ours 
>> (383 in grades 2-7 versus our 356). If we had had their attrition coming 
>> into 2022-2023, we would have lost 18 fewer children. I am not making an 
>> assumption as to why our attrition is higher, but I do think it is worth 
>> investigating.
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