Hi all,

I'll just add that some level of this detail is already provided by the
district in their enrollment report (scroll to last page):
https://www.lincnet.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=11404&dataid=26127&FileName=Enrollment-22Oct01.pdf

This link is just for the most recent year, and it only includes summer
exits (kids leaving at the end of the prior school year until October 1 of
the current year), so it doesn't capture all exits, but it's probably the
bulk of exits. I didn't dig back further to see if this was included in
prior year reports.

Best,
Katy

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:47 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you.
> So we know who leaves to go to private schools, and who simply move.
> Important info.
> Again, thanks for answering that.
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> Sara Mattes
>
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>
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Caitlin Hogue <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Where students go is already collected in the district's SIS. It is
> required for reporting to DESE.
>
> Katy
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:29 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Simply  documenting where they went would be a good and non-intrusive
>> start.
>>  Maybe that is already done.
>>
>> Some might be reluctant to answer a survey, or participate in an
>> interview, but simply documenting where the child went would give some
>> clues.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sara Mattes
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>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Barbara Low <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I found hope that the new super and principal would take action to do
>> exit interviews or a survey or somehow gather information that will
>> hopefully be useful going forward.
>>
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>> *From:* Peter Speert <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:04:21 PM
>> *To:* Barbara Low <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* Bob Kupperstein <[email protected]>; Karla Gravis <
>> [email protected]>; Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to
>> 2016
>>
>> Excellent point, Barb. Would it be feasible to send questionnaires to
>> families that have recently left the school system to ask what motivated
>> them?
>>
>> Peter Speert
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Barbara Low <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Without exit interviews, we don't know why that is taking place. And if a
>> child is removed from the Lincoln School for whatever reason, it is very
>> easy for the rest of the children in the family to follow even if they lack
>> the precipitating issue. Different vacation schedules can be a very strong
>> reason for the family's convenience. How do we not lose the first child? No
>> one should object to gathering more information so school actions are not
>> taken or avoided due to ignorance.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob
>> Kupperstein <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:23 AM
>> *To:* Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to
>> 2016
>>
>> I've been in Lincoln for over 30 years now and parents have been moving
>> kids out of Lincoln schools ever since I can remember.   They do it for a
>> variety of reasons and academic excellence is often *not* the main
>> reason.    At different times I remember parents being concerned about
>> discipline in the schools, lack of structure, lack of desired
>> extracurricular activities, etc.   Very often, many parents want their kids
>> to go to schools similar to the ones they went to, whether that means
>> private schools, parochial schools, more structured, ..., whatever.
>>
>> I'd caution against taking *this* data as a sign that Lincoln schools
>> aren't performing well enough.
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:13 AM Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Since the topic of trends has come up, I pulled together attrition data
>> for previous years, straight from the DOE website:
>>
>> School 2016-2017 2017-2018 2018-2019 2019-2020 2020-2021 2021-2022
>> 2022-2023
>> Lincoln 6.2 6.8 7.1 6.8 7.8 5.0 8.5
>> Carlisle 2.7 3.7 4.0 2.9 4.3 2.3 3.5
>> Dover/Sherborn 2.7 3.0 3.1 3.1 4.8 4.1 3.0
>> Lexington 3.7 3.0 4.0 2.5 6.2 5.9 4.2
>> Going back as far as 2016, Lincoln School consistently has the highest
>> attrition in this group (with only one single exception in 2021 where
>> Lexington was higher, but we were still higher than Carlisle and
>> Dover/Sherborn). Getting this data is a very manual process, which is why I
>> focused on our similar districts plus Lexington that was used as a
>> comparison, but I am happy to add other towns if people are interested.
>>
>> It's not a difference of 1 - 2 students. Carlisle has a similar size to
>> ours (383 in grades 2-7 versus our 356). If we had had their attrition
>> coming into 2022-2023, we would have lost 18 fewer children. I am not
>> making an assumption as to why our attrition is higher, but I do think it
>> is worth investigating.
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