Based on the link Caitlin provided, at the end of last year an average of
1.5 kids/grade left for private school for a K8 total of 14. 18 kids
moved.  Last year was the highest attrition % per the DOE data Karla
pulled. There's a delta of ~3 kids between the two sources. I assume those
left mid year based on Caitlin's point.

Grade Private
K 1
1 0
2 0
3 2
4 2
5 2
6 2
7 3
8 2
14

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 2:42 PM Barbara Low <[email protected]> wrote:

> I do think it is important to understand if students are leaving because
> of dissatisfaction. It is difficult to improve if a system does not know
> where the dissatisfaction comes from and whether it is something that can
> be addressed and improved. Maybe some things cannot be fixed. If someone is
> looking for more athletics, that may be hard to fix with a small school. If
> someone leaves because they are not being challenged sufficiently, that is
> something that can be examined.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Sara Mattes <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:29 PM
> *To:* Barbara Low <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Peter Speert <[email protected]>; Lincoln Talk <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to
> 2016
>
>  Simply  documenting where they went would be a good and non-intrusive
> start.
>  Maybe that is already done.
>
> Some might be reluctant to answer a survey, or participate in an
> interview, but simply documenting where the child went would give some
> clues.
>
>
>
> ------
> Sara Mattes
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Barbara Low <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I found hope that the new super and principal would take action to do exit
> interviews or a survey or somehow gather information that will hopefully be
> useful going forward.
>
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> *From:* Peter Speert <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:04:21 PM
> *To:* Barbara Low <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Bob Kupperstein <[email protected]>; Karla Gravis <
> [email protected]>; Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to
> 2016
>
> Excellent point, Barb. Would it be feasible to send questionnaires to
> families that have recently left the school system to ask what motivated
> them?
>
> Peter Speert
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Barbara Low <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Without exit interviews, we don't know why that is taking place. And if a
> child is removed from the Lincoln School for whatever reason, it is very
> easy for the rest of the children in the family to follow even if they lack
> the precipitating issue. Different vacation schedules can be a very strong
> reason for the family's convenience. How do we not lose the first child? No
> one should object to gathering more information so school actions are not
> taken or avoided due to ignorance.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob
> Kupperstein <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:23 AM
> *To:* Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School attrition data going back to
> 2016
>
> I've been in Lincoln for over 30 years now and parents have been moving
> kids out of Lincoln schools ever since I can remember.   They do it for a
> variety of reasons and academic excellence is often *not* the main
> reason.    At different times I remember parents being concerned about
> discipline in the schools, lack of structure, lack of desired
> extracurricular activities, etc.   Very often, many parents want their kids
> to go to schools similar to the ones they went to, whether that means
> private schools, parochial schools, more structured, ..., whatever.
>
> I'd caution against taking *this* data as a sign that Lincoln schools
> aren't performing well enough.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:13 AM Karla Gravis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Since the topic of trends has come up, I pulled together attrition data
> for previous years, straight from the DOE website:
>
> School 2016-2017 2017-2018 2018-2019 2019-2020 2020-2021 2021-2022
> 2022-2023
> Lincoln 6.2 6.8 7.1 6.8 7.8 5.0 8.5
> Carlisle 2.7 3.7 4.0 2.9 4.3 2.3 3.5
> Dover/Sherborn 2.7 3.0 3.1 3.1 4.8 4.1 3.0
> Lexington 3.7 3.0 4.0 2.5 6.2 5.9 4.2
> Going back as far as 2016, Lincoln School consistently has the highest
> attrition in this group (with only one single exception in 2021 where
> Lexington was higher, but we were still higher than Carlisle and
> Dover/Sherborn). Getting this data is a very manual process, which is why I
> focused on our similar districts plus Lexington that was used as a
> comparison, but I am happy to add other towns if people are interested.
>
> It's not a difference of 1 - 2 students. Carlisle has a similar size to
> ours (383 in grades 2-7 versus our 356). If we had had their attrition
> coming into 2022-2023, we would have lost 18 fewer children. I am not
> making an assumption as to why our attrition is higher, but I do think it
> is worth investigating.
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