On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:42:52 AEST Karl Auer wrote:

> You're assuming that monitoring the vehicle will be stressful. I don't think 
> you know that. I also think that people are all different - I know some 
> people who find driving very stressful.

Most of the stress of driving arises from having to closely monitor & react to 
what's happening out there.  Monitoring "driverless" vehicle operation 
introduces another complete unknown: what is the computer doing?  Therefore I 
suggest automated-vehicle technology currently offers no nett benefit _if_ 
everything is done according to the book.

Now there's no dispute that while the current technology may be good enough for 
most situations it's not reliable enough to dispense with a human driver 
altogether.  But that requirement is simply unrealistic because a human 
driver's attention will inevitably wander, resulting in a delay or completely 
inadequate response to an emergency.

The claimed benefits probably arise because the human drivers are usually not 
paying much attention in driverless mode.


On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:33:51 AEST Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:

> Autodriving/full self-driving cars need to be tested against exceptions, not 
> the norm.  AFAIK that has never happened and may only happen over time in 
> use, not the lab.

I agree.

The often-quoted statistics on the known frequency of Tesla crashes almost 
certainly don't reflect the inherent capability of the current technology 
because of the requirement for a human driver, even if an imperfect one.  We 
also don't know (?) what proportion of the time they're operating in driverless 
mode, and how often crashes are avoided by skilful human drivers in nearby 
vehicles.

David L.

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