We're in full agreement. But with 3GHz intel processors, spending
a lot of expensive human time tuning an application hardly seems
worth it.  If new school uses 3GHz processors, old school uses 300Mhz
processors, there's a lot of room for bad programming to be
competitive.  but at least the z990 is getting close to "new school".
We can get the best of both worlds...

>From: David Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I may be "old school", but there's no substitute for well written
>programs that are both efficient in CPU and storage and the same goes
>for the software platform they run on.  I even get discouraged at home
>when you have to buy new hardware to support the bloating of the OS it
>runs on. What are you achieving? New functionality?  Better programs?
>More stability?  Some of the new software I've bought to run on my PC is
>re-written old stuff with more advertisement and fancy programmatic
>gizmos.  It's neither more efficient nor better performing, even on new
>hardware.
>
>The new school must have "deep pockets".   ;)
>
>My opinions only, folks!=20
>
>Dave
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>Barton Robinson
>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:21 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: J2EE performance?
>
>
>The old school that thinks 80 mips is a lot is used to
>really well written programs, written in assembler to
>be efficient in both CPU and storage.  The new school
>that uses Java and C++ has different objectives.
>
>An 80 MIP processor is about a 300MHz pentium. This is
>based on "Barton's Number of 4", where 1 mip is about
>4 Mhz of Intel running equivalent code.  Not a really
>impressive machine, unless it is running many workloads
>at a very high utilization with lots of I/O 7 x 24....
>
>I've heard the new java compilers are much much better,
>suited more for meeting mainframe objectives.







"If you can't measure it, I'm Just NOT interested!"(tm)

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