Linux-Advocacy Digest #248, Volume #31 Thu, 4 Jan 01 20:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Uptimes ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: OEditors: Xedit vs. vi or emacs (Gary Hallock)
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Uptimes ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Uptimes ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com (Johan
Kullstam)
Re: Uptimes ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com (Johan
Kullstam)
Re: Linux can be made unstable, too. (Peter Hayes)
Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com (Chris
Ahlstrom)
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux can be made unstable, too. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:09:40 GMT
"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad C. Mulligan" wrote:
>
> > Could be they spend too much time gossiping instead of fixing the
problems.
> > When I hear of a BSOD I always ask what caused it, and far too often the
> > reply is "I don't know I didn't read it" these types should stick to
DOS.
>
> Nope, these are top notch MCSEs and they are
> working their asses off -
>
Sure they are.
> > That is inconclusive as Netcraft counts sites not servers.
>
> So, Unix servers tend to host mulitple sites, while windows
> servers tend to host a single site, or a farms of windows hosts
> a single site? hmm, which platform sounds more ready for prime
> time to you?
>
The one that brings in the bucks, The e commerce platform. That's right
IIS.
>
> > Mass hosters
> > generally use Solaris or BSD (with a few Linux)
>
> A great many Linux, to be more accurate.
>
Not as many as you think.
> > so the numbers get padded.
>
> OK, let me get this straight: Unix is capable of reliably hosting
> muitiple sites, but windows servers should be limited to a single
> site - and why does this appear to you like some kind of moral
> victory for windows? It's clearly a stinging indictment of windows
> poor performance and reliability as a mission critical web server.
>
Wrong. IIS is just as capable to reliably host multiple sites but the e
commerce sites it is used for tend to have more traffic and need to do more
than display static content ala a web hosting farm. The primitive
(relatively) httpd's are more used more often for that task because they are
cheaper, but if you want to serve dynamic data, IIS is the way to go, those
sites aren't interested in multiple domains or multiple sites because they
make money selling products other than disk space.
> > IIS sites tend to be eCommerce and one site to a domain/location.
>
> Unix sites e.g amazon tend to be huge, fast and always on.
>
They must be expensive to maintain if you look at Amazon's bottom line.
> IIS installations are typically low traffic corporate brochureware
> sites. Check the netcraft secure server stats and you will see
> that windows/IIS is a shrinking minority.
>
Nope
> jjs
>
>
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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:08:06 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: OEditors: Xedit vs. vi or emacs
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
>
> I.e...the PROGRAMMING of the 3270 terminal...
>
> Which gets RIGHT back to my original statement.
>
> IBM software sucks
You have a strange definition of programming. The 3270 terminal is
hardwired. It was designed at a time when reducing the number of interrupts
to the host and transferring blocks of data rather than individual characters
was critical for overall system performance. In any case, it has nothing to
do with IBM software.
Gary
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:09:20 -0500
John Brock wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >> Gary Hallock wrote:
>
> >> > I thought vi sucked.
>
> >> This is why you fail...
> >>
> >> Can't recognize superior technology.
>
> >In my opinion, xedit is superior to vi.
>
> Having used both extensively I have to agree. In particular I miss
> the "ALL" command in Xedit, which has no counterpart in any other
> editor I've used.
s/bad/good/g
/g stands for GLOBAL.
> --
> John Brock
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:10:57 GMT
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Last I heard CNN had reported that amazon.com was down the day after
> > > > Thanksgiving ( and a few other suspicious times of the year) but
> > > > microsoft.com or any other huge and popular IIS site has never been
> > down.
> > >
> > > I beg to differ, microsoft.com goes down all the time -- I'll get
> > > connection refused on one attempt and then the next attempt goes
> > > through. Anyone can throw 60 machines into a connection pool and
> > > claim unlimited uptime -- it says nothing about how long each
> > > operating system gives out service.
> >
> > Connection refused by the server? or a timeout? If it's the first,
then
> > that means the server is running. If it's the second, then it's
probably
> > dropped packets along the net, something that is very common. It
happens to
> > me on all kinds of sites, including Slashdot and others.
>
> But it couldn't possibly be that machine #42 just went down, right?
>
Possible but inlikely. BTW I never seem to have that problem maybe your
client isn't configured optimally.
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:11:39 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
John Brock wrote:
>
> Having used both extensively I have to agree. In particular I miss
> the "ALL" command in Xedit, which has no counterpart in any other
> editor I've used.
Yep. There are a number of implementations of xedit for Unix, Linux,
and Windows. Some, such as THE, are free open source. THE now
supports Object Rexx for the macro processor.
Gary
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:14:11 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Chad C. Mulligan in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 04 Jan 2001
> [...]
> >Could be they spend too much time gossiping instead of fixing the
problems.
>
> Could be another in a never-ending series of proclamations that someone
> else is incompetent proffered by the Microsoft apologists.
>
This coming from an incompetent who's afraid to demonstrate is idiocy except
in his posting practices.
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
>
> Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
> http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.bill-gates,alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:14:46 GMT
"Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Choice is good - if customers could choose between cheap and functional
> >winmodems (for example) or more expensive, but more reliable and flexible
> >real modems, that would be fine. But customers are forced (through lack of
> >information and lack of choice) to buy inferior winmodems, with very little
> >real price difference.
> >
>
>
> Plus the fact that many new users had the modem pre-installed when they
> bought the PC. If you buy a PC with free modem included how do new users
> who are buying their first computer know they are not getting real
> hardware.
1) the modem is not free. it's part of the price.
2) sometimes you have to take worthless junk as part of the bundle
even knowing that it's a piece of junk..
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:15:01 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Chad C. Mulligan in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 04 Jan 2001
> [...]
> >Care to send me your customer list so I can follow up and really solve
their
> >problems then.
>
> PTHTHTHTH! You wouldn't have a clue. I don't do "PC-level stuff",
> much; I deal with network management. I have worked with more than two
> dozen major carriers, service providers, and enterprises within the last
> couple years alone. I'm sure you can go find some real problems, if you
> want; they've got plenty of problems to go around. One "Windows guru"
> is pretty much as useful as the next; the primary job requirement is not
> getting frustrated when it turns out you *can't* adequately troubleshoot
> proprietary crapware. Chances are your "follow up" is going to come out
> a little different then you planned, but you know there's always money
> to be made in calling the previous solution a "problem" and pretending
> to fix it with a new solution.
>
You've had two dozen jobs in two years. Finally you say something I can
believe.
> >BTW, typical penguinista tactics here, rather than continuing a
discussion,
> >just attack the opponent.
>
> "Penguinista". I love that. It so clearly announces your intention to
> avoid having to apply reason.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
>
> Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
> http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:16:05 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:04:37
<trimmed>
> >It's mainly immaturity. You can't accept the fact that you have no
> >basis for your argument AT ALL and you can't accept that fact that
> >you lost so badly.
> >
> >Just give it up, Max.
>
> Mind-boggling.
>
Don't take much eh?
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
>
> Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
> http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.bill-gates,alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:16:59 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Brown wrote:
> >
> > Ayende Rahien wrote in message <92v6t2$gbt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >
> > >>
> > >> They are responsible for cheapening computer hardware
> > >> in the form of Win products which are inferior to
> > >> regular products as they rely on YOUR CPU power to
> > >> power the peripheral!
> > >
> > >They do the same thing, right?
> >
> > Nop - they seldom work as quickly, and never as reliably, especially when
> > you are using the CPU power for other purposes (e.g., playing a game over
> > the internet).
> >
> > >They cost *much* less.
> >
> > Peripherals like winmodems cost no more than a few dollars less than real
> > modems - and that is the end-user price, not the manufacturers price.
> >
> > >The customer can easily find out why the price differ so much.
> >
> > No they can't - most users don't know if their modem is real or not.
>
> That's because they didn't bother to find out.
you can find out. for example
<URL:http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html>
however, diving that a particular modem is a software modem from the
writing on the packaging is not always easy.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux can be made unstable, too.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:11:42 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 04 Jan 2001 11:32:35 -0700, Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've since converted all my partitions to ReiserFS (with the exception
> of the boot partition, of course). If I ever have to power off
> again, I know that the subsequent reboot is fast and reliable.
What worries me about ReiserFS is what happens if the power cut comes just
as the FS is writing its journal. Won't that screw everything up big time?
Peter
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.bill-gates,alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:19:02 GMT
Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
> >Choice is good - if customers could choose between cheap and functional
> >winmodems (for example) or more expensive, but more reliable and flexible
> >real modems, that would be fine. But customers are forced (through lack of
> >information and lack of choice) to buy inferior winmodems, with very little
> >real price difference.
> >
>
> Plus the fact that many new users had the modem pre-installed when they
> bought the PC. If you buy a PC with free modem included how do new users
> who are buying their first computer know they are not getting real hardware.
Y'know, I ordered a system from Sam's Computers, and could never get the modem
to work very well with NT. It was annoying, and I eventually bought a NetCom
modem. Now I realize that Sam's had installed a WinModem. I had thought that
it was just a broken piece of crap.
http://www.56k.com/reports/winmodem.shtml
Chris
--
Flipping the Bozo bit at 400 MHz
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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:17:44 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> So, in other words, the idiotic behavior of IBM XEDIT is due to the idiotic
> behavior of the IBM 3270 terminal, which is determined by the idiotic software
> written by IBM programmers.
>
Close, except for one critical point you missed. The 3270 terminal is hardwired. So
you can blame the hardware if you want, but not the software.
>
> I fail to see how this absolves IBM of responsibility for the idiotic
> behavior of the standard editor on IBM mainframes when used on the
> standard terminal for IBM mainframes.
>
This is why I suggested you read the 3270 manual. You might then understand the
limitations of the 3270 and why the xedit default is the way it is. There is no
perfect solution. xedit does the best it can. You might also gain some insight
into the difficulty of porting vi to work with a 3270 and why it would end up looking
like vi sucked to a casual observer.
Gary
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:21:39 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > > Hell, the last time I've seen BSOD was when I was running the funny
> > > screensaver.
> >
> > You take good care of your system!
>
> The screen saver I was talking about was a BSOD screen saver, which amuses
> me to no end.
> I've not seen a real BSOD in a *long* time.
I know, I loaded that screensaver. It scared me the first few times!!!
The newer version of that screensaver also simulates Win 2000 problems.
Haven't tried it yet. I should mark on the calendar the last time
I booted to Win 2000.
Chris
--
Flipping the Bozo bit at 400 MHz
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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:20:27 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Andy Newman wrote:
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >to append to the end of a line, the first step needed was to delete
> >invisible characters which I never typed in.
>
> Your idea of the file and the system's may have been a little at odds.
> Fixed length records aren't totally natural when it comes to editing
> free form text.
Exactly. And making a 3270 handle variable length records or records
that are longer than the screen width is a pain and never really works
quite right.
Gary
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:24:06 GMT
"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> * wrote:
>
> > J Sloan wrote:
> >
> > > > > > well stop asserting. easily 60% of the population uses their
computers for
> > > > > > 1 of 3 things: web browsing, game playing and entertainment, or
multimedia
> > > > > > development.
> > > > >
> > > > > >all 3 are things linux does worst.
> > >
> > > I don't know which wintroll wrote this, but it's classic ms
> > > propaganda - "there is no desktop but windows"!
> >
> > actually. it says who writes what at the top of a message.
>
> Nope, the top of the message does not carry any history,
> only the given address of the poster, which tells you
> nothing about content carried over from earlier postings.
>
Then please explain this excerpt from the top of a message:
<excerpt>
"R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92vpkt$ej2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hackerbabe wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > "JSPL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
</excerpt>
Don't know about you but I count at least 4 levels of quoting indexed here.
<trimmed>
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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:31:06 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> John Brock wrote:
> >
> >
> > Having used both extensively I have to agree. In particular I miss
> > the "ALL" command in Xedit, which has no counterpart in any other
> > editor I've used.
>
> s/bad/good/g
>
> /g stands for GLOBAL.
>
You failed again. I already told you in a previous post that this is not
equivalent to ALL. Why don't you look up the ALL command in the xedit
manual and then get back to us.
Gary
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.bill-gates,alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:35:41 -0500
Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
> >Choice is good - if customers could choose between cheap and functional
> >winmodems (for example) or more expensive, but more reliable and flexible
> >real modems, that would be fine. But customers are forced (through lack of
> >information and lack of choice) to buy inferior winmodems, with very little
> >real price difference.
> >
>
> Plus the fact that many new users had the modem pre-installed when they
> bought the PC. If you buy a PC with free modem included how do new users
> who are buying their first computer know they are not getting real hardware.
That's the price of IGNORANCE...which is what Microsoft is all about...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:37:01 -0500
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:09:06 -0700, John W. Stevens wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> >> On technicalities.
> >
> >No. There were no techincalities involved. Florida was a dead tie, and
> >the only clearly correct and legal procedure was for the Florida
> >legislature to choose the electors. Do you have any doubt at all, that
> >those electors would have been promised to George?
>
> No, I don't. But my point is that when you have a dead tie, the result
> boils down to the fine print.
And the fine print says that the state legislature chooses...which
would have gone to Bush...so...conclude what you will.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux can be made unstable, too.
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:38:41 -0500
David Steinberg wrote:
>
> Aaron Ginn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I've since converted all my partitions to ReiserFS (with the exception
> : of the boot partition, of course). If I ever have to power off
> : again, I know that the subsequent reboot is fast and reliable.
>
> I know this is changing the subject, but when I read statements like this
> I worry just a little. I have less confidence in ReiserFS than you, due
> to a strange problem that I experienced with it a few months ago: I had a
> small ReiserFS partition in which one directory went loopy. Doing an "ls"
> of that directory led to an unending harddrive-grinding noise and no
> output. Eventually, I gave up on that. The ReiserFS fsck (I don't
> remember its name) reported that the file system was clean. I tried "rm
> -rf" on the directory (it wasn't anything of vital importance), and it
> ground for a while, then aborted with an error message.
>
> I've never before experienced this with any other type of file system: an
> obviously broken file system that is claimed to be clean by the utility
> that checks it. It seems pretty bad to me; how could you ever hope to fix
> such a file system?
>
> Anyways, I copied all of the directories somewhere else, and then used
> mkfs to make a new filesystem...ext2, of course. :)
yep, that's the solution...make a tarball, mkfs, and restore the tarball.
>
> By contrast, I've never had a problem with an ext2 filesystem that
> e2fsck could not find and fix. I know: anecdotal evidence. I'm sure
> someone else has had exactly the opposite experience.
>
> My desire is certainly not that you stop using ReiserFS, rather to remind
> you not to be TOO confident in it or any other software: always make
> backups.
Damn straight.
>
> --
> David Steinberg -o)
> Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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