Linux-Hardware Digest #340, Volume #14           Tue, 13 Feb 01 17:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: devfs and IDE ATAPI floppy (problem solved) (Jonathan DeSena)
  Problems with IDE HDD and DMA  (Markus Gaugusch)
  Sv: Linux on MPC860: OK? Or asking for trouble? ("Karl Palsson")
  Re: Recovering QNX and AIX HDs with Linux ("Jaroslaw Kolacz")
  Has anyone been able to run DirecPC on a real OS? ("Dustin")
  different /dev's for tape? ("Corey Wirun")
  Re: Has anyone been able to run DirecPC on a real OS? ("Jamie Town")
  Re: a cordless logitech wheelmouse (James Tappin)
  Re: Update: Install hangs computer (Eric P. McCoy)
  Re: different /dev's for tape? (H.Bruijn)
  Re: Getting a faster IDE controller (Dave McAllister)
  Re: Tools to modify ext2 partitions on-the-fly? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Creative SB AudioPCI 128 (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Can't delete file (Trevor Hemsley)
  Ghost on Linux boot drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Has anyone been able to run DirecPC on a real OS? ("Joe Hardy")

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From: Jonathan DeSena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: devfs and IDE ATAPI floppy (problem solved)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:53:04 -0500

Jonathan DeSena wrote:

> Paul Bristow wrote:
> 
> > Jonathon,
> > 
> > I am working on true devfs support for the IDE-FLOPPY driver,  if you
> > are willing to test some stuff with me it would help.
> > 
> Sure, I'd be glad to. Just email me.
> 
> By the way, upon the latest reboot the trick of reloading the module does
> not seem to work.  I'll keep trying, maybe I'll figure out what made it
> work before.
> 
> JTD
> 
> 
A brief update:

Both my scsi JAZ drive and IDE Zip drive do not show up under devfs after a 
reboot.  

However, if I try to mount my Jaz using the old command: 
        mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/jaz
it works, even though neither /dev/sda4 nor 
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part4 exist yet.  After the mount they 
do.  Trying to mount the devfs location initially will fail until the node 
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part4 has been created by the old 
non-devfs mount command above.

In order to mount my Zip disk I must first try mounting it with the old 
command:
        mount /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip
and THEN reload the ide-floppy module, THEN try remounting using the old 
command, after which the devfs node /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part4 
then exists.

Very odd.  Any ideas why?

JTD


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From: Markus Gaugusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with IDE HDD and DMA 
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:14:01 GMT

Hi!
I have an old P200MMX with Intel TX chipset. The mainboard is from
Chaintech.
My problem is, that my new 40GB Seagate HDD isn't detected in BIOS
(doesn't matter for me because I use an 80MB drive to load the kernel
and boot, and linux recognises the drive). 
The real problem is, that since the BIOS doesn't recognise the hdd, it
doesn't initalise the IDE port and sets no PIO/DMA mode (which brings me
to a whopping rate of 2.8MB/s for my new 40GB drive instead of 9MB/s
with my old 10GB drive :(((
hdparm -X 33 or -X 34 (and even -X 11) didn't work either :(
any hints??

thank you!!

Markus Gaugusch

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From: "Karl Palsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sv: Linux on MPC860: OK? Or asking for trouble?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:26:15 +0100

I have just completed a project installing Linux on a PowerPC board designed
by the company I work for.

Linux works fine on the MPC860, just make sure you use the MPC860e version
as it has larger cache and has much better performance.

Reasonable Linux experience is important for this type of work. Without any
Linux experience you need to do some research on the desktop. See how the
kernel is compiled, experiment with the file system, drivers and the kernel.
This is a non trivial task and not suicidal either.

When starting our development, we first bought a working MPC860e target
(from http://www.embeddedplanet.com/) and installed Linux on that. When we
got it working we could rather easily move to our own hardware. I can
recommend this procedure.

Some information on Linux on PowerPC is available on: http://linuxppc.org/
and
http://www.penguinppc.org/usr/embedded/howto/PowerPC-Embedded-HOWTO.html. I
beleive the last link has a readymade Linux installation you can use.

Regarding question 2, if you are thinking in terms of application
development more information is needed. If you are developing graphical
software you need to install Qt embedded or something like Tiny-X on the
target and maybe use Kylix (Delphi) for development. Then you have
application code that is directly portable to Windows. If you are thinking
in terms of driver development all you need is on your Linux desktop, that
is the standard C++ compiler and some editors.

Hope it helps,
Karl

Pete Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i en
nyhedsmeddelelse:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> We're making a commercial, highly-available embedded system
> from scratch. We're going to install Linux as the real-time
> OS on the main board. We're now choosing the CPU to put on
> that board. The obvious choice is an x86-class machine. But
> we prefer to use a Power PC: an MPC860.
>
> We have ZERO Linux internals experience. We have Red Hat
> Release 7 running on one single PC, and that's it.
>
> Question 1: Are there readily-available, supported incarnations
> of Linux already installed on the MPC860? If not, then how
> much trouble are we getting ourselves into by undertaking to
> do this installation from scratch? Is it suicide? Or is it
> pretty straightforward?
>
> Question 2: What kinds of development environments can you
> suggest to run on NT 4.0 or Linux platforms; and with target
> machines MPC860 or x86?
>
> Thanks so much, and sorry for the newbie question.
> Pete Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>



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From: "Jaroslaw Kolacz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Recovering QNX and AIX HDs with Linux
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:40:27 GMT

> As for the AIX HD, I have seen that fdisk includes AIX when I type "l",
> but I didn't see any AIX fs support in the kernel. In short, there's a way
> to put my hands on the data of the AIX HD, using an Alpha/Linux running RH
> 6.2 ?
I think it's not possible because you need not only AIX jfs but also the AIX
LVM support. Otherwise linux can't import AIX VG's. I have never seen any
implementation of the AIX LVM for Linux. If there is any, than please inform
me about it.

regards
Jarek



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From: "Dustin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.satellite.direcpc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Has anyone been able to run DirecPC on a real OS?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:47:36 -0600

I am one of those who can only get dialup (<28.8), T-1, or DirecPC.  I
prefer DPC for the price/performance.  I won't likely be able to get any
other options for a while.

I have been working w/ Windows in its various forms for about 10 years now.
Have never figured out how to keep the OS from crashing.  Just not stable
enough for me.  Also, Bill seems more interested in putting in everything
but the kitchen sink instead of concentrating on making a stable kernel.

I have found that my Linux box will run for months without requiring a
reboot.  My Win9X's, on the other hand, need to be rebooted once per day,
sometimes more.  Also, I frequently get a message from Nav that the PCI card
has stopped working and I need to reboot to get it working again -- so much
for Newscast!!!

This leads me to my questions, does anyone know of a way to get DPC working
on Linux/Unix.  These boxes are so much more stable and come with software
to allow connection sharing --routing/firewall/IPmasq. -- whatever your
preference.  I would appreciate any feedback I can get on this.

Dustin



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From: "Corey Wirun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: different /dev's for tape?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:03:08 -0700

Hi All,

I've got a QIC tape drive which has on-board compression.  When I MAKEDEV'd
the /dev directory for the device, it created st0 and nst0 (rewinding and
non-rewinding) devices.  This works fine.

But, my tape drive (a Tandberg TDC4100 or SLR3) has other modes, including
compression, etc.  How do I get /dev entries for those?

How does anyone create different /dev entries for different modes for a tape
drive?  Do you have to create an stinit.def entry for the device?

Thanks in Advance
Corey Wirun





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From: "Jamie Town" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.satellite.direcpc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Has anyone been able to run DirecPC on a real OS?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:06:22 -0800

X-No-Archive: Yes

"Dustin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:37hi6.352$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am one of those who can only get dialup (<28.8), T-1, or DirecPC.  I
> prefer DPC for the price/performance.  I won't likely be able to get any
> other options for a while.

And the mantra lives on.

Starband.  Nebulink.  Fast@XS.

Three different satellite solutions and they're not alone.

> I have been working w/ Windows in its various forms for about 10 years
now.
> Have never figured out how to keep the OS from crashing.  Just not stable
> enough for me.  Also, Bill seems more interested in putting in everything
> but the kitchen sink instead of concentrating on making a stable kernel.
>
> I have found that my Linux box will run for months without requiring a
> reboot.  My Win9X's, on the other hand, need to be rebooted once per day,
> sometimes more.  Also, I frequently get a message from Nav that the PCI
card
> has stopped working and I need to reboot to get it working again -- so
much
> for Newscast!!!

Newscast doesn't work anyway.  Heh.  I typed that Newscat then fixed it.
Slip of the keyboard...

> This leads me to my questions, does anyone know of a way to get DPC
working
> on Linux/Unix.  These boxes are so much more stable and come with software
> to allow connection sharing --routing/firewall/IPmasq. -- whatever your
> preference.  I would appreciate any feedback I can get on this.

Helius used to sell DPC drivers for Linux.  However, they are no longer
taking new customers.  Only _existing_ customers may purchase the drivers.
This question is asked at least once a week and the answer is always the
same.

Jamie




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From: James Tappin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a cordless logitech wheelmouse
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:56:14 +0000

Jeroen de Graaf wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Im having a cordless.... but after all the things people told me to the
> wheel is still not working, ive dloaded the program IMWheel but that didnt
> work.
> With SaX i added some lines to "pointer" but it will still not work.
> Please give me some advice.

Some Logitech wheel mice use intellimouse protocol rather than 
MousemanPlus, try setting the protocol to imps/2. There doesn't seem to be 
much logic to it, it's just a case of try one and if it doesn't work try 
the other (I've got some Logitech MouseManPlus opticals at work that are 
imps/2, while my Trackman Marble at home is a MouseMan Plus). 

You also need to have ZAxisMapping 4 5 set. Even then only some apps will 
recognize it (KDE2, recent GTK+ and to some extent xforms).

James


-- 
James Tappin,               O__      "I forget the punishment for using
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     --  \/`    Microsoft --- Something lingering
http://www.xena.uklinux.net/          with data loss in it I fancy"  

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Update: Install hangs computer
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 13 Feb 2001 16:25:14 -0500

"Rex Dieter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Do you have a conventional floppy?  If not, that could be it.
[...]

Just so that you know, I got six identical copies of this article.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: different /dev's for tape?
Date: 13 Feb 2001 21:35:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:03:08 -0700, Corey Wirun allegedly wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I've got a QIC tape drive which has on-board compression.  When I MAKEDEV'd
>the /dev directory for the device, it created st0 and nst0 (rewinding and
>non-rewinding) devices.  This works fine.
>
>But, my tape drive (a Tandberg TDC4100 or SLR3) has other modes, including
>compression, etc.  How do I get /dev entries for those?
>
>How does anyone create different /dev entries for different modes for a tape
>drive?  Do you have to create an stinit.def entry for the device?
>
>Thanks in Advance

Use the major and minor device numbers found in the file devices.txt in
the linux source code (../linux/Documentation/devices.txt) or at the
website http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/device-list/

There appear to even be special devices for QIC tapes, to enable
compression. Make the devices with 
        /sbin/mknod NAME c MAJOR MINOR 

For instance to create the deive associated with the QIC 117 tape drive
one uses the name qft0 for the first drive, and rewind on close, c,
since it is a character device, major 27 and minor 0
        /sbin/mknod qft0 c 27 0 
to make the device entry for the same device, Unit 0, rewind-on-close,
but now with compression, 
        /sbin/mknod zqft0 c 27 16 


-- 
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn                            mail:          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands                       website:   http://hermanbruijn.com

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From: Dave McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Getting a faster IDE controller
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:46:42 GMT

Or remove the load from your system.  Look into one of the IDE RAID cards
from 3ware. Just not sure of their stance on 2.4.

I know you can boot of them in 2.2; I do that at home

davemc

"Eric P. McCoy" wrote:

> I'm thinking about getting a new IDE controller, probably ATA/100, so
> I don't have to use the sucky onboard controller.  But I'm sort of new
> to the world of IDE, so I have some questions.
>
> But before we go any further, this is the setup:
>
>   Linux 2.4.0-smp
>   Intel PR440FX motherboard
>   2 PPro-200 (256k) CPUs
>   2 32MB 60ns EDO/ECC DIMMs
>   2 Maxtor 7200rpm 30GB ATA/66 disks
>
> First concern is whether I'm going to notice a difference.  From
> hdparm:
>
>   /dev/hda:
>    Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  3.24 seconds = 39.51 MB/sec
>    Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in 11.80 seconds =  5.42 MB/sec
>
> Which is not really great.  The part that vaguely concerns me is the
> buffer-cache figure; shouldn't that be, oh, about three times higher?
> It was when I ran the disks on my other computer.
>
> Second, as you can probably guess, I need to be able to boot off these
> drives.  I have no idea if my BIOS even supports booting from
> off-board controllers, nor do I know how I'd find out.
>
> If I can get past these two problems: Any recommendations for what
> controllers work, and work well?  I'd rather pay 50% more for a
> controller than risk getting corrupted data.
>
> --
> Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
> absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
> spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Tools to modify ext2 partitions on-the-fly?
Date: 13 Feb 2001 22:00:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:19:35 GMT, Tim Van Holder staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>I'm having trouble with some of my Linux partitions (created by
>PartitionMagic 6.0). They take forever to mount, and I suspect that
>is because they're large (one is 15GB, the other 20GB) and PM6 has
>set their block size to 1024.

This is why you use cfdisk and mke2fs to create Linux partitions.
Anyway, the 2.4.x kernel series mounts partitions far more quickly than
the 2.2.x series, as well as increasing throughput wrt disk I/O.

>So what I'd like to know is whether there are (free) tools available
>that will allow me to a) resize and b) change the block size of ext2
>partitions on-the-fly (i.e. without having to backup/restore all the
>files on them) (possibly including the root partition).

http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ ?  Changing the block size of an
ext2 partition appears to be difficult; the default 4096-byte block size
mke2fs uses is appropriate for most ext2 filesystems on hard disks.  

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Creative SB AudioPCI 128
Date: 13 Feb 2001 22:00:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:55:39 +0100, Michal Bozon staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>Is there (nearly) full support for Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI 128
>sound card?  RedHat 6.2 detected (sndconfig) that it is CT5880
>(/proc/pci also shows 5880, NOT 4810,  why?) and installed moudule
>es1371 (and soundcore).  I cannot play MIDI, use 3D sound, effects...
>
>Whot shuld I do if I want to use all card's features?

If you're having problems hearing anything at all, upgrade your kernel
to 2.2.18 ; the 5880 is actually a very-slightly modified es1371.  There
*IS* no hardware MIDI on the es1371 cards; that's why they're so cheap.
Get "timidity" and you can do MIDI in software.  Don't know what you
mean by "3D sound" or "effects" but then I have cheap speakers and don't
play the latest k3wl g4mes.  HTH,

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Hemsley)
Subject: Re: Can't delete file
Date: 13 Feb 2001 22:00:52 GMT

On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:06:39, Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> bash-2.03# ls -l plusnode.gif 
> ls: plusnode.gif: Value too large for defined data type
> bash-2.03# file plusnode.gif 
> plusnode.gif: can't stat `plusnode.gif' (Value too large for defined data type).
> bash-2.03# uname -a
> Linux bbs 2.4.1 #38 Wed Feb 7 15:15:35 CST 2001 i586 unknown
> bash-2.03# 

init s
umount /whateverfilesystem
fsck -f /dev/hdan

where hdan is the partition you have the problem on. If you only have 
one filesystem then you may need to boot from diskette to do this lot 
instead.

> Paul Colquhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 13 Feb 2001 09:43:36 GMT, Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > |Hi,
> > |
> > |I am trying to delete a file, but got this error :
> > |bash-2.03# rm plusnode.gif 
> > |rm: cannot remove `plusnode.gif': Value too large for defined data type
> > |bash-2.03# 
> > |
> > |Can someone tell me how to delete it ?
> 
> > Care to post the output for:
> 
> >     ls -l plusnode.gif
> >     file plusnode.gif
> >     uname -a
> 
> > This will give people a little nore info to work with in spotting
> > the potential cause of the problem.

-- 
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: Ghost on Linux boot drive
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:53:01 -0500

I need to replace a boot drive with a larger one, and thought of using 
Norton's Ghost. However, it doesn't seem to handle MBR as it does for 
Win/DOS drives.

There must be an easy trick to it.(?)


 KS

... Hey!  My keybo=E9=E7=9A=81=87=C2=BB=E4=E2


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From: "Joe Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.satellite.direcpc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Has anyone been able to run DirecPC on a real OS?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:04:10 +1100

Use Win2K if it's stability you want. Win9x is hopeless in comparison.

--
Joe Hardy
http://www.pconsulting.com.au/
Check out UnrealDownload, an open source download manager for .NET -
http://www.pconsulting.com.au/unrealdownload/


"Dustin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:37hi6.352$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am one of those who can only get dialup (<28.8), T-1, or DirecPC.  I
> prefer DPC for the price/performance.  I won't likely be able to get any
> other options for a while.
>
> I have been working w/ Windows in its various forms for about 10 years
now.
> Have never figured out how to keep the OS from crashing.  Just not stable
> enough for me.  Also, Bill seems more interested in putting in everything
> but the kitchen sink instead of concentrating on making a stable kernel.
>
> I have found that my Linux box will run for months without requiring a
> reboot.  My Win9X's, on the other hand, need to be rebooted once per day,
> sometimes more.  Also, I frequently get a message from Nav that the PCI
card
> has stopped working and I need to reboot to get it working again -- so
much
> for Newscast!!!
>
> This leads me to my questions, does anyone know of a way to get DPC
working
> on Linux/Unix.  These boxes are so much more stable and come with software
> to allow connection sharing --routing/firewall/IPmasq. -- whatever your
> preference.  I would appreciate any feedback I can get on this.
>
> Dustin
>
>



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