On Monday 16 September 2002 15:34, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote:
> >in my opinion, this is starting to look like a classic MS scenario, which
> > i definetly dont like.
>
> What MS scenario are you specifically talking about? In the Windows
> monopoly world, you don't have a choice - here you have all the choice in
> the world. You could (and have) choose a different distribution.
> You could
> install the default packages to nullify (pun intended) their changes.

why do i need to go into all the truble of doing that ? why do i need to 
download and install everything from scratch ? why are'nt the default 
gnome\kde desktops shipped in the same cd as well ?
i think they should also add the default packages and let the user choose what 
he wants to install.
this is the right way to do it. presenting you with a fact is wrong.
this is not what i call "the freedom to choose".

>
> The only way in which their change might be considered unfair is that the
> original look&feel of the desktops is part of their branding, which RedHat
> has eliminated. I think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages easily in
> this case.

some people might disagree, and the only thing they can do about it is either 
to download and install from scratch, or choose another dostro.

>
>
> Alexander Maryanovsky.
>
> At 00:04 17.09.2002 +0300, Amir Tal wrote:
> >you all (i am guessing here..) read slashdot, so i guess you saw the
> > article speaking about the new policy RH are taking in their new beta.
> >
> >i am reffering to the fact that they decided to "unite" some parts of the
> >gnome and kde desktops, including making code changes in some of the above
> >projects, in order to gain sharing of some components in those desktop
> >enviroments.
> >
> >i switched to debian a few weeks ago, so i couldnt care less what RH are
> >doing
> >on their future releases, but i do find it kind of offensive that they
> > have the nurve (yes, i do believe its nurve) to decide for their users
> > what will their desktop look like.
> >its true that you can always remove the default packages and
> > compile\install your own, but why would a user want to go into all that
> > truble ?
> >new users should not have a problem with this new approach, and they may
> > even like the new artwork implemented there, but what about old timers,
> > that want their desktop set just the way they like it ?
> >
> >in my opinion, this is starting to look like a classic MS scenario, which
> > i definetly dont like.
> >is this where linux is going from now ?
> >doesnt seem so much of a "free choice" now, does it ?
> >
> >kde is kde, gnome is gnome, and thats the way its suppose to be.
> >you want a new desktop ? a united desktop ? a uniqe desktop ? go ahead,
> > but dont *force* users to use it.
> >
> >they could at least let you choose if you WANT it or not (which they dont)
> >
> >original article :
> >http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/16/1215242&mode=thread&tid=110
> >
> >translated article on whatsup.org.il :
> >http://whatsup.org.il/article.php?sid=407
> >
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