On Friday 29 August 2003 23:55, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> > X is a piece of software most in need of a redesign if I ever saw one.
>
> Shouldn't the toolkit handle it instead of X ?

No - the X server encapsualtes low level hardware interfaces into high level 
API. for the tool kit to go around it is completly counter productive - you 
undo all the work that the X people has put in, throw toolkit compatibility 
out of the window, get your life incredibly complicated and basicly you'd 
better off designing a new X replacement from scratch (which some people are 
already doing). 
BTW - some toolkits already do some low level stuff, to work around X 
limitations. these toolkits then suffer from a lot of problems when using 
remote X: try to get konqueror to run even on a 100MBit ethernet - its almost 
unusable.

> Take a look at evas, for example, used in upcoming enlightenment (anyone
> knows when ?):

Probably next century. I've used enlightenment when I first started running 
linux, and not a long time after that, 0.16 came out. how many years since 
that was ?

EVAS is trying to do a lot of things that X should do but can't/won't - a 
noble cause. I hope they also plan to port it to run over other interesting 
stuff like fresco (aka berlin) and DirectFB.

-- 
Oded


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