On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 03:00:54PM +0300, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > JR>> benchmarking or window dragging the only way to measure quality > JR>> of engineering then that makes a 3GHz machine running Windows > JR>> 3.11 better engineered than a 333Mhz machine running Linux. > > Well, if the benchmarks would show so - yes, then the former is better > enigneered that the latter, for our shame - at least in the windows > dragging aspect. We can then claim Linux developers traded best > engineering in this case for best engineering in other case - which is > rather common thing to happen - but it would be misleading to claim that > what appears worse is better, just we don't See The Light. > > JR>> Once again your talking market share for a non commercial product. Why > JR>> do you want everyone to use Linux? It's obviously not because you care > > That's an easy question. Because then there would be more software for > Linux and I could enjoy better Linux experience than now, hopefully. > > JR>> paramount to suggesting that a 1962 Chateau Lafeet is worst than a 20 > JR>> Shekel bottle of Carmel Selected because carmel has an immensly huge > JR>> market share. > > Yes, in some aspects it is worse - for example, it is much more expensive > and hard to find. So if I want wine with my evening beef antrecote, Carmel > Selected has much better chance to be invited than Chateau Lafeet. You > may claim it is more _tasty_ or more _classy_ - but that's not the only > thing that matters. > > JR>> magical multicultural fairy princess user interface". As if > JR>> poeple living in Uganda and using Linux can even afford to run > JR>> anything beyond X. All they care about is that it's free and > JR>> stable. > > Actually, they and you care for different meanings of "free" :) Forgetting > that may lead to dangerous illusions. > > JR>> If point #1 is wrong and the masses are collectivly intelligent > JR>> then they can get together and write their own GUI and decorate > JR>> it with helpfull magical monkeys. > > I see no base for this claim. "Masses" may be intelligent enough to > apperciate a good powerful GUI, but not skilled enough or resourceful > enough to develop a new one. Yours truly is an example - I would happy to > see a GUI better than I have now on my Linux, but there's hardly any > chance I will ever have time - and, probably, interest, and, maybe, skill > - to write a new GUI. Unless, of course, somebody is going to pay me > obscene amount of money for this ;) > > JR>> It works. Please don't try and suddenly forget tens of years of > JR>> computing history by saying that it doesnt. Noone else has been > JR>> around that long. > > It works, to some measure. It could work much better, though. Appealing to > tens of years, you forget that people's needs change, and if once the > needs were satisfied by X, it doesn't mean that would be forever. If > people now want "eyecandies" or 3d accelration or jumping virtual desktops > or something else - then the choice for Linux desktop is either to give > people what they want or give way to those who does. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken > Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells > phone +972-50-624945 /\ JRRT LotR. > whois:!SM8333 > > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
All your points are very true. I tend to add my personal fears to the
equation. Thus my arguments.
I'm afraid that by judging and comparing ourselves primarily to the
commercial market leaders we will lose the naivete that created Linux
in the first place. I'm afraid that in emulating and competing with
the commercial companies we will effectively be led by them in a blind
bid to get the newest glitz or GUI fad implemented.
Nothing can be farther removed from the spirit that created the kernel
in the first place. As I understand it.
Thankfully GNU/Linux open nature allows me to remain as outdated as I
wish.
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"Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"
Regards, Yoni Rabkin
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