Linux-Misc Digest #677, Volume #18 Mon, 18 Jan 99 11:13:11 EST
Contents:
how do i connect to the internet (basic question here) ("Dean")
Re: GTK+ 1.1.x question (Steve Gage)
Re: X server conection ? ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Mounting cdrom and floppy on Redhat 5.2 (Aaron Faby)
Re: Which is the best colour printer for Linux? (Phil Adamson)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Eric)
Re: Display problems in X-windows (AK)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Gert Wollny)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris)
Re: Mounting cdrom and floppy on Redhat 5.2 (Ed Nather)
Re: which distribution package do you recommend? ("joe lerch")
Call for Articles - Crossroads Magazine (Kim Moorman)
Re: HELP, Upgrading gcc to 2.7.2.3-X (Edward Vigmond)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Jim Frost)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (allacircle)
Re: linux reports seeing only 15MB of 20MB installed (Joseph Byrne)
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From: "Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how do i connect to the internet (basic question here)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:11:45 +0900
I just installed Debian, base system only. Now I don't know how to connect
to get software packages. I type 'pon' at the prompt and another prompt
comes up. I finnaly got it to quit giving me error messages. But, nothing
appears to be happening. Am I supposed to do something else?
Forgive the ignorance, but I know how do to almost nothing with linux.
I do not have a cd or anything, I am in S. Korea, on a military base where
they have nothing, and I can't read anything that is off-base. So, I am
stuck with what is on the web.
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GTK+ 1.1.x question
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:51:06 +0000
Hans Wolters wrote:
>
> Patrick O'Neil wrote:
> >
> [snap]
> >
> > Yes, though there may be an order of install requirement to get it right.
> > I have both 1.0.6 and 1.1.7 installed and Gimp works as well as all the
> > other apps that require 1.1.x. I just don't recall the precise way I went
> > about it. I seem to recall needing to use --force.
>
> Same trouble here. RH 5.1 comes with Gimp 0.9<whatever> and I can't seem
> to install the 1.1x
>
> When I use forced install it still keeps the early gtk libs in place and
> if I remove them things like linuxconf, usermount, etc... won't run
> under X. I would like to install a higher GTK version so I could install
> some new software. Anybody?
> --
> Java Search Engine Front End
> http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
gtk+10 and glib10 are the 1.0.6 libraries in a form that can co-exist
with the 1.1.x libraries. Install them first, then the 1.1.x.
- Steve
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X server conection ?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 09:49:13 -0500
Daniel Wetzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DW> I try to establish an x server connection betweeen a Linux system
DW> and a solaris system but don`t know exactly how to export the
DW> display on Linux.
DW>
DW> export display <ip> didn`t work......
DW>
DW> Does someone know how I handle this ?
Yup. It's even described and *gasp* documented in the Remote-X-Apps
mini-HOWTO.
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From: Aaron Faby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mounting cdrom and floppy on Redhat 5.2
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:20:41 -0500
Steve Sanyal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been able to mount my cdrom and my floppy as root, using the following
> commands:
>
> mount /mnt/cdrom
> mount /mnt/floppy
>
> It works fine for that login session. However, I seem to have to keep
> remounting. I also cannot access the cdrom or the floppy from a regular
> user account.
>
> What do I need to do?
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
Steve,
Use linuxconf and you can set the floppy and cdrom to be able to be mounted
from user accounts... i think this can be done in the file systems section. As
far
as you having to remount... I dont know what could be causing that.
Aaron
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From: Phil Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which is the best colour printer for Linux?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:43:57 GMT
In uk.comp.os.linux Phillip Deackes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is there an affordable colour postsript printer? Would postcript
: printers necessarily give better quality printing? Is there any printer
: manufacturer actually considering producing a Linux printer driver?
If you get a colour postscript printer, then the quality will be all down
to the printer - there won't be any OS dependencies or ghostscript
colour-isn't-quite-right problems, as you just send postscript to the
printer, and it deals with it.
Whether there are any affordable ones rather depends on your defenition of
affordable. You won't pay less than four figures for one though.
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:58:13 -0700
Chris Allen wrote:
> Christopher B. Browne wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:58:12 GMT, Bitbucket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
> > >On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:14:26 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias
> > >Warkus) wrote:
> > >
> > >>It was the Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:25:40 GMT...
> > >>..and Bitbucket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> Companies need standardization and support contracts. Even if it is
> > >>> somewhat of a ripoff. Linux right now has neither, and as long as the
> > >>> desktops, community colleges and training centers educate on MS
> > >>> offerings this is not going to change real soon.
> > >>
>
I think your argument was passed by events over the weekend. Compaq just announced
they will offer Linux preinstalled on all of it's servers, complete with service
contract. Dell announced the same a week ago, and Gateway followed Compaqs
announcement with one of there own. God what I wouldn't have given to see the look
on Gate's face when that little tidbit hit the news!
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AK)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Display problems in X-windows
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:53:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:55:30 GMT, "Steve Sanyal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>AfterStep thus seems to be causing a lot of weird effects, likely to my lack
>of many colours? I use 24 or 32 bit colour with Windows NT - how can I get
>the same settings in Linux?
>Regards
>Steve
All I can say is if XF86Setup isn't working for you, you're going to
have to find a way to edit your /etc/X1/XF86Config whether it's in
pico (I don't know if you can. I think it's system owned), or however.
I get Afterstep fine, but I don't have the same monitor and video card
as you. Once you get it working, you'll appreciate it =)
-AK
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From: Gert Wollny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:15:14 +0000
Allan Olesen wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry) wrote:
>
> >That's less keystrokes than is needed to access the cdrom under dos.
> >Use your imagination.
>
> Wrong!
>
> Under dos, you don't use keystrokes to mount or unmount a cdrom.
but you also have to change to the drive ...
Say the script to mount the cdrom is called m and goes like this:
>>start
#!/bin/sh
# assuming the fstab entry to mount /dev/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom
mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /mnt/cdrom
<<end
then you need two keystrokes <m>+<ENTER> to get to the root directory of
the CDRom.
In DOS you need three:
<d>+<:>+<ENTER> #assuming d as the letter for your CDROM
And the winner by one keystroke is linuuuux!
And for the unmounting:
script u:
>>start
#!/bin/sh
cd
umount /mnt/cdrom
eject
<<end
makes two keystrokes, which is comparable to pressing the eject button
of the
cd-drive.
Anyway there is or will be an automount-function, which mounts the
appropriated device when you change to the directory, where the device
should be mounted.
Bye
Gert
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:20:55 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Home user do not need more reliablity. period. they need ease of use.
>
>
> BOB
When was this meeting held. I thought in America we strived for
Quality and reliability! That washing machine down stairs is 10 years
old and has never needed service. Should I have bought the Microsoft
model
and had the service person out here 10 times to fix it.
What is happening here? Have we given up reliability for 'Cheap and
easy'?
Chris
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From: Ed Nather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mounting cdrom and floppy on Redhat 5.2
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:55:08 +0000
Steve Sanyal wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been able to mount my cdrom and my floppy as root, using the following
> commands:
>
> mount /mnt/cdrom
> mount /mnt/floppy
>
> It works fine for that login session. However, I seem to have to keep
> remounting. I also cannot access the cdrom or the floppy from a regular
> user account.
>
> What do I need to do?
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
You may need to edit the /etc/fstab file, to get them to mount automatically,
on boot-up, but you may not want to do that. They are removable media, and
you must unmout ('umount') and remount whenever you change disks. You can
make both accessible by regular users by including the proper option in the
/etc/fstab file. The command 'man fstab' tells you how.
ed
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From: "joe lerch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:27:21 -0500 (EST)
Reply-To: "joe lerch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:34:33 +0100, M. Wimmer wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I collected some general information about linux on the internet, but I must
>admit, that I am a 100% newbie in this field. I would like to "learn by
>doing" about this powerful operating system.
>Can you recommend a distribution package?
>It should cost less than about 20 Euros.
>It should be run off my second, smaller SCSI - HD (Controller NCR C810 is
>supported).
>It must support my Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM graphics card and Panasonic CR
>581-M CD-ROM drive.
>Maybe there is a package with a very comfortabel user interface?
>I am a medium experienced USER of Windows 95.
>
I am a newbie also, using Redhat 5.1 & 5.2 and SuSe 5.3.
I found SuSe a little easier to use, and the x servers that
SuSE includes set up and work better than the Redhat
distributions.
Although RedHat gets all the publicity , I would recommend
trying SuSe as well. http://www.suse.com - or
you can get them from www.lsl.com or cheapbytes.com
good luck
(please remove "nospam" from email address)
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From: Kim Moorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Call for Articles - Crossroads Magazine
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:49:28 -0500
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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP, Upgrading gcc to 2.7.2.3-X
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:55:54 GMT
WangQiang wrote:
>
> Hi, All
>
> Currently in my Linux System, I have a kernel of 2.0.35.
>
> My C/C++ compiler is gcc(gcc-c++) of 2.7.2.1 from RedHat 4.2. I want to
> upgrade it to gcc-2.7.2.3-X. I tried to do this by using command:
> rpm -U gcc-2_7_2_3-14_i386.rpm
> OR
> rpm -U gcc-2_7_2_3-8_i386.rpm
> (I downloaded these .rpm file from RedHat's ftp site.)
BTW, the current release of gcc is 2.8.1.1 which you require if you want
to have array bounds checking.
--
Ed Vigmond
Institut de Genie Biomedical, Universite de Montreal
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From: Jim Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:40:39 -0500
> Also, the manual I got with RH 5.0 and RH 5.1 both give good ideas
> as to partitioning.
I don't agree; it gives a lot of suggestions, but they aren't particularly good
ones, and the fact that it has to go into such detail indicates a relatively
poor installer in the first place.
Xenix did a much better job with suggesting partitions during the install
process. I never even had to pick up a manual.
jim
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:32:23 -0500
Sorry about that one Barry. I'll make sure never to spew my biased oppinions of
N64 on this newsgroup again. Take care.
Barry O'Neill wrote:
> IIf you DARE start a PlayStation/N64 flamewar in the Linux newsgroups, I
> shall make it my my mission in life to track you down and insert either
> or both of these devices into one (or more) of your orifices. Clear?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph Byrne)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: linux reports seeing only 15MB of 20MB installed
Date: 18 Jan 1999 15:45:12 GMT
Mr. Frouman:
Thank you (and others) for your response. I'll try passing the 20M
parameter and see what happens. BTW, the BIOS and (boot up mem test) show
the full 20; plus the BIOS has no memory-related options.
I apologize to all for posting such a FAQ. I'll delete the message when
I get home (and succeed passing the 20M parameter). I do a lot of web
searches every day. I never would have thought that 50% of the hits for
"linux and memory" would address this problem.
JB
Peter S. Frouman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
: On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:17:19 -0800, J. Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:
: >The initial boot screen (as well as KDE) report seeing 15 MB. However, my
: >system has 20MB installed. Any thoughts as to why this is?
: Perhaps you have the "memory hole at 15-16M" BIOS option set. Does the
: BIOS screen show the full 20MB? If it doesn't, then maybe the 4mb module
: is bad or something. If it does, you might try adding a mem= append
: statement to /etc/lilo.conf and rerunning lilo. There is also a kernel
: option for the memory hole but if you are running the original kernel, I
: doubt you have this enabled. That is all I can think of, but perhaps
: there is some other potential problem I am overlooking.
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