Linux-Misc Digest #738, Volume #19 Sun, 4 Apr 99 19:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: (Q) Is there a pgp.rpm ? (Ian Hay)
Re: Give it a rest! (was Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for ("G. Sumner
Hayes")
<trn> Unexpected close of server socket. ??? (SpAmEnOt)
Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion? (Pas Moi)
Re: How do you hang up pppd? (Tonny Sejr Kromann)
modem questions ("Mike")
Re: bz2 compression (Richard Finney)
SuSE 6.0 and ppp (Jaro B.)
Re: Give it a rest! (was Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for (Walter Strong)
Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command? ("Cameron Spitzer")
Adding 2nd SCSI controller? (Steve Wampler)
Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else??? (Scott Alfter)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Anthony W. Youngman")
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From: Ian Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Q) Is there a pgp.rpm ?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:14:55 GMT
Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
> Could some kind soul tell me where to find an rpm for pgp (Pretty Good Privacy)?
> (Preferably the latest version.)
I got my rpm from http://www.pgpi.com
> Is there some reason why this is not on the RedHat CDs?
U.S. export laws.
I.
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Ian R. Hay <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Toronto, Canada <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
Linuxing about since June 21, 1998 <Redhat 5.1 - 2.0.35>
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From: "G. Sumner Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Give it a rest! (was Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 17:31:58 -0400
John Thompson wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > Are you saying that emacs is a worthless piece of software, because
> > people could as well use vi?
>
> This thread is a perfect example of the postulate that given
> suffficient time, any thread in a *nix discussion group will
> eventually degenerate into an "emacs vs vi" polemic.
What are you, some kind of Nazi trying to criticize other posters
as degenerate? This sort of Hitler-esque speech is the real downfall
of Usenet that seems to have forced even kibo into hiding.
Furrfu. I don't know why I bother reading this notesfile any more.
--Sumner
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From: SpAmEnOt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: <trn> Unexpected close of server socket. ???
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 16:46:25 +0000
Hi, I've been useing trn to select threads to save to local user file
such as one of these.
/home/jtwdyp/News/Alt.os.linux
/home/jtwdyp/News/Alt.os.linux.slackware
/home/jtwdyp/News/Comp.os.linux.misc
Then later (while NOT on-line) I read the articals within these threads via
pine...
it WAS working just fine.
I could <and did> use trn's thread selection to mark all the threads that
sounded interesting and then when I finaly got to the end of the list
and the spacebar default opened the 1st artical for reading I'd use the
":s[enter]" command to save all {selected} articals to one of the above
listed files.
After which, of course I had to use the "c" command to catch up and mark
ALL articals as read.
Since I don't get to go online every day this often meant My ISP's server
would have several thousand new messages. and at times I had selected to
save hundreds of them with one :s command. It worked like a charm.
But lately, this has been failing to work. I don't know what changed.
But now I'm reduced to using the :s comand for each page of the thread
selector where I found something to mark. Then unmarking them before moving
on to the next page of threads... This is agravating enough. but the last
couple of times I've tried to do this with comp.os.linux.misc I couldn't
even do it that way... that is SOMETIMES it works, and sometimes I just get
an "Unexpected close of server socket." error in this case I only had one
thread selected when it happend {see snipage below}. . .
Any body know whats up with this????
I don't even know if this server socket is closed by my isp's server or if
linux is closing it. But When it happens I'm still connected (As in I don't
need to run ppp-go again to restart trn and try again. BUT if I can't get
to the point where I do the "c" catch-up command before the socket closes
and POOF I'm back at the bash prompt, Then I have to try to remember which
of the interesting sounding threads I already marked. And hope I don't skip
one with a NEW interesting artical that wasn't there when I selected it
last time...<sigh>
<begin snipage>
d+yft 3 how do I configure VIM to display an e...after exiting?
Kenny McCormack
Gary Johnson
e Philip Brown 1 >OT: MS wanting to settle
f Chris Blain 1 What does "No module off found for kernel 2.2.3" mean?
:s
329612
Unexpected close of server socket.
jtwdyp -> /home/jtwdyp
<end snipage>
| ~^~ ~^~
| <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
| ^ J(tWdy)P
| \___/ <<jtwdyp AT ttlc DOT net>>
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Subject: Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion?
From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:40:12 GMT
>> "f" == fishbowl wrote on 1 Apr 1999 11:16:08 -0600:
f> I'm quite surprised that VMWARE (www.vmware.com) isn't being
f> discussed much. I've been waiting years for just such a thing. I
f> can now run windows98 under linux, and run quicken, office97,
f> solitaire :-), or anything else I want (except directx
f> games...yet), without rebooting.
elementary. a lot of people run linux because they don't care about
quicken, orifice97, or solitaire. vmware? yawn...
zzzz,
g.y.
--
Guy Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [remove noise]
Yow! I threw up on my window!
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From: Tonny Sejr Kromann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you hang up pppd?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:48:29 +0000
You can make a script containing the command:
"kill `ps aux | grep pppd | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}'` "
I made the script "/usr/local/bin/ppp-off".
--
Tonny
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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem questions
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:47:50 -0700
hi.
being a newbie to linux there are a few problems I have encountered. noone
of which is as exasperating as trying to set up my modem. below is my
configurationa and the problems I am encountering. anyand all help would be
greatly appreciated. i have purchased every new bood available for Linux
and none of themgive a step by step on setting up a modem in this OS.
my system is a stand alone Linux system installed as a workstation from
RedHat 5.2, it is not part of a network i just chose workstation upon set up
as advised from a user on the news group. it seems to be operation fine
except for the modem and modem related software.
pentium 133 with 2 hard drives 1st is 1.7 gigs 2nd is 680 megs.
64 megs of memory
cdrom
sound card
us robotics 33.6 voice fax modem (not a WIN MODEM)
upon trying to dial up my modem it goes off into never never land for
between 5 and 8 minutes then it dials out and just hangs up. it will not
access my ISP or respond in any other way. from my limited knowledge I have
checked and the modem is set to the correct port. (com 3 = cua2, or ttys2).
i amnot sure what to do to fix this.
also as a second major conflict i amtrying to set up netscape for linux and
below are the problems i am encountering there. sorry for such a long post.
On netscape:
1. when i enter a URL in the locaition box (http://www.the-den.com) an error
box pops up. "Unable to locate server www.the-den.com the server doesn not
have a DNS entry". What is it that the program wants and where do i send
it this information???????
2. trying to se up mail and nd news groups I follow this path to get to the
set up area.
EDIT > PREFERENCES > MAIL&GROUPS > MAIL SERVER.
In the first box marked MAILSERVER USER NAME I ENTER (the-den).
In the next marked OUTGOING SMTP SERVER I ENTER (mail.the-den.com)
In the third box marked INCOMING MAILSERVER i enter (mail.the-den.com)
when I try to move down to the group server (news groups) i get the error
message "WARNING MAILHOST mail.the-den.com IS UNKNOWN.
can anyone offer some advice to what I am doing wrong. all of the
information entered works fine in WINdOWS and is correct. i am at a loss
and would like to thank anyone and everyone for any any help that is
offered.
thanks in advance
mike gregory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Richard Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bz2 compression
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 16:48:50 -0400
bzip2 is a new (?) compression program, see
http://www.best.com/~dfetter/Bzip2-HOWTO/Bzip2-HOWTO.html
for more info; I had to download it also.
-r
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jaro B.)
Subject: SuSE 6.0 and ppp
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:21:37 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, my question:
it is possible under SuSE 6.0 to start the ppp-up-script as
'normal'-user (not as root)? My 'normal'-user is in the =
dialout-group, the pppd is executable for all, but it does =
not work! The error message:
/usr/sbin/pppd: using the name option requires root privilege.
(pppd check the root-user? Under SuSE 5.3 not at all!)
Any suggestion are wellcome!
J.B.
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eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (job)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: Give it a rest! (was Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for
Date: 4 Apr 1999 22:07:33 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Distribution:
G. Sumner Hayes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: John Thompson wrote:
: >
: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: >
: > >
: > > Are you saying that emacs is a worthless piece of software, because
: > > people could as well use vi?
: >
: > This thread is a perfect example of the postulate that given
: > suffficient time, any thread in a *nix discussion group will
: > eventually degenerate into an "emacs vs vi" polemic.
: What are you, some kind of Nazi trying to criticize other posters
: as degenerate? This sort of Hitler-esque speech is the real downfall
: of Usenet that seems to have forced even kibo into hiding.
WTF?
WTFSMFUs?
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux run the processor HLT command?
Date: 4 Apr 1999 21:41:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Markus Redeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Linux uses the HLT opcode, and yes, your CPU runs cooler with
>> Linux than with (say) Windows.
>
>I never tought that the use of a processor command should change the CPU
>temperature visibly. So what is the secret of the HLT command?
>
>If HLT stands for "halt" and is used to eliminate busy waiting, it could
>have some (small or big?) effect on CPU load, I think. Is this the answer?
The HLT command shuts clocks down on parts of the CPU, and disables the
external bus. It's a big power saving.
In a modern, synchronous CMOS design, clock distribution on chip can
account for a quarter of the power dissipation or more.
People often jump to the conclusion that HLT'ing between interrupts
will prolong the CPU's life. That conclusion is usually wrong.
Running the CPU at a constant temperature is less stressful than
heating it up and cooling it down frequently.
(Provided, of course, the temperature, clock frequency, supply voltage,
and output loading are within the manufacturer's Recommended Operating
Conditions. "Overclockers" are taking an unknown amount of risk,
and don't get any guarantees.)
The HLT power saving feature is provided to extend the run-time
on a battery, not to make the CPU last longer.
Cameron
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From: Steve Wampler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding 2nd SCSI controller?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:14:08 -0700
Can someone point me to documentation on how to configure a system with
two (different) scsi controllers? I have a (normally used) Adaptec 2940
but want to use a 2nd controller (Adaptec 1505) for a CD-writer.
According to the documentation, the 1505 uses the aha152x driver, but
I get a "device or resource busy" whenever I try to load that module.
(there is no conflict on the i/o port or on the interrupt, as far as
I can tell).
Also, assuming I can load it, what /dev devices must exist to access
the 2nd scsi?
Thanks for any help!
(If you email me, I'll be happy to summarize to this group after I
get something working.)
---
Steve Wampler {[EMAIL PROTECTED]}
The gods that smiled upon your birth are laughing now. -- fortune cookie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else???
Date: 4 Apr 1999 15:43:08 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andre van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 04:48:58 GMT, David M. Cook wrote:
>>echo stuff to that file to control the connection (if you set permissions on
>>it correctly.)
>
>There's also a X frontend for [diald.ctl]. Try dctrl
You can also use some cgi-bin scripts to control diald. This has the
advantage of enabling you to control diald from any web browser. I've set
IE5's homepage on my Win98 box to a page generated by my Linux box that
can send most commands to diald...force the link up or down, open a link,
close it, etc. When I'm logged in from my Apple II (like I am now),
something like "lynx -dump http://localhost/cgi-bin/ppp-up" will do the same
thing.
The only catch is that diald's named pipe needs to be accessible to cgi-bin
scripts. This might be a security hole on a multi-user system. On a home
system with only one user (or very few users), it isn't that big a deal.
_/_
/ v \
(IIGS( Scott Alfter (salfter at (bitte keine Spam) delphi dot com)
\_^_/ http://people.delphi.com/salfter
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:01:55 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7dmf1a$2u80l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stuart Fox
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>>> Also, time for a few facts
>>>
>>> 1. NO operating system is bug free
>>> 2. Both Linux camps and MS spend considerable time locating and fixing
>bugs
>>> 3. A properly configured NT box will not Blue Screen, and will be as
>stable
>>> as a well configured Linux box.
You're assuming the user has the experience to configure it properly. In
which case linux is well within his grasp ...
>>
>>Hmmm. Not sure this is really the case, NT does Blue screen sometime
>>without explanation. One thing I do know for sure is that Linux is a
>hell
>>of a lot easier to get working again if it fails to boot. Scramble an NT
>>installation to much and its reinstall time. A key Linux quality is the
>>ability to recover a system if sometthing goes wrong. This can be very
>>difficult with NT.
>>
>
>I have some twenty or thirty NT servers under my direct or indirect
>influence, and they do not blue screen. The occasions when they do, it is
>usually because a third party driver is poorly written (e.g. some of the
>Compaq NIC drivers). In my experience, most NT blue screens are caused by
>hardware or hardware related faults (or letting some asshole who doesn't
>know what they're doing at your machine). Recovering an NT box isn't that
>hard, especially given there's such a wide ranging knowledge base available.
>I have never seen a NT box blue screen without a good reason.
>
When I upgraded my NT system to SP4 (okay I think I did something
stupid) it blue-screened on boot. I couldn't recover and ended up using
fdisk deleting my C: drive in order to be able to do a re-install.
When I cocked up my upgrade from SuSE 5.2 to 6.0 it was pretty easy to
recover. The system at least managed to boot and let me get at the tools
I needed. By the way, linux had just done its equivalent of "del
\winnt\system32". I don't think NT would have recovered from that!
As for "linux is for techies", I spend too much time teaching my friends
"the fundamentals of computing" and hauling them out of holes of their
own making. I don't mind provided they want to learn. If you don't
understand what NT is doing "under the bonnet" then you are going to
abuse and break it. Linux just forces you to "wise up" rather quicker.
Like with cars, even if you don't do any maintenance yourself, a car
driven by someone who understands how the engine and transmission etc
work is almost certainly going to be more reliable than one driven by
someone without a clue. The knowledgeable person won't push the car
beyond its limits and will have problems nipped in the bud. The clueless
guy won't realise anything is wrong until he gets stranded by the side
of the motorway with a dead vehicle.
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Trousers with a single hole in their waistband are topologically equivalent
to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
outlets! (SuperStrings by F. David Peat)
If replying by e-mail please mail wol. Anything else may get missed amongst
the spam.
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