Linux-Misc Digest #763, Volume #18 Tue, 26 Jan 99 01:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: A newbie versus "vi" [HOLY WARS ALERT] (Christopher Browne)
Re: The Open Group and X (Christopher Browne)
Re: (Symbolic) Links ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Linux Newbie (Dan Nguyen)
Re: Help, Kernel too big (Dan Nguyen)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help, Kernel too big ("al")
bash crashes, shutdown hangs, man flaky... (Luke)
Re: X-Windows/Mounting cd-rom ("Scott Portinga")
Re: Error recompiling redhat 5.2 kernel (Alan Fried)
Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Dean Lombardo)
Re: Help! - Hauppauge WINTV and Linux (WHOtv.com)
Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Frank Crary)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Arthur Corliss)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi" [HOLY WARS ALERT]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 02:54:52 GMT
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:02:07 +0100, Matthias Warkus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the 25 Jan 1999 07:34:48 -0500...
>..and Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Personally, I hope that they will soon get to switch to Guile as their Emacs
>> >Lisp interpreter (yep, they are planning an Elisp front-end). Then, the next
>> >goal will be multithreading, which would be a tremendous feat. Of course it
>> >would require having everything made reentrant. I don't expect this to
>> >happen before 2000 or 2001.
>> Yeah, right. And DOS will be able to get rid of its warts as soon as
>> all DOS applications will be rewritten to use only clean part of API.
>
>Blabber, blabber, blabber... Here, see, I rigged a plonkmetre for you.
I'm a little skeptical too; I think I'd suggest 2001 or 2002 instead.
That of course leaves me free to be pleased about being proven wrong by
reality, should that happen...
>> Please,
>> get real. Support for multi-threaded stuff - maybe. But then it will duplicate
>> the old stuff, not replace it. And EMACS is already huge.
>
>I have seen respective postings from Emacs developers. I see no reason why
>Emacs shouldn't switch to Guile. Multi-threading is a different issue.
Take a look at the following URLs that link to a number of "replace the
Lisp engine" discussions.
<http://www.666.com/xemacs/lisp-engine.html>
<http://www.666.com/xemacs/lisp-engine-replacement.html>
<http://sourcery.naggum.no/emacs>
The material is mostly oriented towards the notion of replacing Elisp
with Common Lisp, as opposed to Scheme/Guile.
I believe that you'll find there a link to a page with some indication
of *some* problems with GNU Emacs jump to Guile; I don't recall what
breakage was expected, but there certainly was some.
Note that the MIT Scheme includes an editor that bears remarkable
similarity to GNU Emacs that is implemented in MIT Scheme; no doubt
things can be learned from that, or perhaps (I don't recall the
licensing arrangements) even used directly...
>> >But it's on the roadmap, just as making Emacs export functionality via CORBA
>> >and integrating Emacs into Gnome is.
>>
>> WHAT? So it will be unable to run without *that* stuff?
>
>You get things backwards. It will have a Gnome front-end as well as an X
>front-end as well as a console front-end. BTW, I hope they will modularise
>these front-ends, three in a monolithic binary is a bit over the top.
It would *definitely* be a cool idea to split Emacs into a "multiserver"
system, where buffers would probably each have their own Lisp engine (of
whatever dialect). This would make GNUS a whole lot more usable, as it
could run "in the background" while you do things with other buffers.
I have to agree with the other poster that having a dependancy on GNOME,
which, for the front end, *would* result, is a mite dangerous at this
point. GNOME doesn't seem nearly stable enough yet for such an effort
to begin; it's a tough slog to try to keep up with the revisions of the
many libraries.
I realize that GNOME is going through a substantial "solidification"
effort; what needs to happen *real* soon now is for things to solidify
sufficiently that there is no longer a need to keep the various
libraries upgraded "lock-step."
>> Why don't you
>> put it into the kernel (Hurd, preferably) and be done with that? Damn, GNU
>> did a lot of useful things, but somebody *really* ought to clue RMS on the
>> meaning of word "elegance".
>
>Enlighten yourself on some Emacs newsgroups, I'll stop bothering about you.
>
>> Sheesh... Just let me find a spare month. Nvi already has hooks
>> for imbedded interpreters (Perl and Tcl are done) and making them dynamically
>> (un)loadable isn't too hard. Then - glue for Lazy ML and there we go. Bet
>> that footprint with LML stuff loaded will be at least 10 times smaller than
>> for EMACS.
>
>vim is a bit more than one third of Emacs' size with Perl, Python and Tcl
>bindings. I don't know about nvi.
The issue is of being able to continue to use the hundreds of thousands
of lines of existing Elisp code... Sticking in Lazy ML means throwing
away [pick whatever Elisp package].
--
"My theory is that someone's Emacs crashed on a very early version of
Linux while reading alt.flame and the resulting unholy combination of
Elisp and Minix code somehow managed to bootstrap itself and take on an
independent existence." -- James Raynard in c.u.b.f.m on nature of
Albert Cahalan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: The Open Group and X
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 02:54:54 GMT
On 25 Jan 1999 22:07:54 GMT, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:30:36 +0100,
> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What is the X11 that The Open Group develop? You can download X11R6.4 and
>> "public patches" from ftp.x.org. Surely this is not some kind of
>> implementation? Or is it?
>
>It is the reference implementation.
It is most correctly termed as a "Sample Implementation."
It does not forcibly conform to all standards; it is *not* the normative
reference that determines what is X.
>> Has TOG actually got someone working on X?
>
>Supposedly. They took over as head of X development when The X
>Consortium dissolved. They basically have the same role as a mediator
>between Sun/HP/IBM and other Open Group members and work to push the
>'state of the art' forward.
It seems likely that there's not a whole lot of X work going on at TOG.
Bug fixing and efforts to integrate code from the "other guys" into X is
reasonably likely. They're trying to put together material for a book
to be released later this year.
--
OS/2: Why marketing matters more than technology...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
------------------------------
From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:44:53 -0800
Alistair Hamilton wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>[...]
>Has Linux moved from the traditional Unix file system of I-nodes and
>links to some other system where a file is clearly tied to a
>directory, or am I just missing something? Just what is the difference
>between a symlink and a "vanilla" link that old-timers like me know
>about?
Well, this has been discussed in detail just a couple of weeks ago.
In short: Yes. you are right on all accounts.
The "vanilla links" are called hard links and have been around since the
very first FSs for Unix.
The others are called soft links.
Both have their fair share and both are available with ext2fs:
- hardlinks do not work across file systems, softlinks do
- hardlinks do not work for directories, softlinks do
- hardlinks are faster because you don't have to resolve the target name and
re-access the drive
- sometimes it is desirable to have a master and a slave file. If you delete
the target of a soft link the file is gone for good (and the link is
pointing to nothing). With hardlink you must find and delete all instances
in order to get rid of the file itself.
- sometimes the opposite behaviour of the last statement is desirable.
It really depends on what you want to do.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner; microsoft.com, UID: jurgenex
Sorry for this anti-spam inconvenience
------------------------------
From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 25 Jan 1999 23:28:50 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve
> mcadams) wrote:
> >>Hell, if MS is so powerful, why fight? The are clearly about the take
> >>command of the Earth.
> >
> >Did you hear that the Bill's are having an affair? <g> -steve
>
> Sorry, the idea of Bill Gates having sex just does not compute.
no, that was bill c. however, rumor has it someone has videotapes of bill
g owning a mac ;-)
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.0pre5ac1 i586 | at public servers
There's certainly precedent for that already too. (Not claiming it's
*good* precedent, mind you. :-)
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
------------------------------
From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Newbie
Date: 26 Jan 1999 04:44:22 GMT
Sveinn Gunnarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: What would be the best system for me?
Hardware support is not distro dependent (usually). Hardware support
is provided by the Linux kernel, which all distrobutions uses.
Based on your list. Most of it looks supported.
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
------------------------------
From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Help, Kernel too big
Date: 26 Jan 1999 04:42:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Wael Sedky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*> wrote:
: I compiled my kernel 2.0.35 with the default options plus some really few
: others (sound & printer) options.
: After I update my lilo.conf and type "lilo" I get an error "Kernel too big"
: It is about 1M I think!! What do I do. I don't think I can make it smaller
: than that. Should I delete the old one?
are you sure you copyied
/usr/src/linux/arch/YOUR_ARCHETECTURE/boot/zimage
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:25:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > d00d,
> >
> > Go take your flag waving somewhere else..I work for a large beer
maker
> > who shall not be named..AB...heh...and I visit lots of plants all over
> > the country making them y2k compliant and rolling out NT ( not my choice
> > ). I have heard these average americans call us " them thinkin boys with
> > the computers " So don't tell me that the average American can wipe his
> > own ass well, because that would be wrong. It was the above average
> > American that has done what you said. For the most part people are sheep
> > and should be kept as far away from computers and the net as possible...
> >
> > oh anyways..end of soapbox...
>
> No offense but I'll take my "flag-waving" wherever I please, thank you
> very much. It may be true that we computer people don't represent the
> average on pretty much any metric but that doesn't remove the fact that
> some people are attempting to beat up on *our* average American as being
> something less than someone else's average. I'm merely stating that we
> must be doing something right... and BTW most of these people's
> information leading them to the conclusion that there is something
> *wrong* with US education because our high schoolers don'r fare
> particularly well against their other-country counterparts probably fail
> to take into consideration that many countries do not do as we do.
> Namely we attempt to put *everyone* through 12 years of schooling while
> many countries weed out the weaker students around 7th or 8th grade and
> keep only the top 25% or so in publicly-funded schooling which has two
> effects:
>
> 1) Raises their apparent "average" since it's now based on their
> top-tier students.
> 2) Generates a competetive atmosphere in schools since there aren't
> enough publicly-funded slots for everyone students must compete if they
> want one of them (an excellent idea IMHO).
>
> --
>
> Paul Doherty
> Systems Analyst/Programmer
> http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
> Home of PC DiskMaster
>
microsoft is the tool of computing mediocrity.... nuff said
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:27:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi everybody, I've been trying to set up a PPP connection,
> but it doesn't work.
>
> I think I read all the documentation I found 10 times and nothing seems
> to work, so if you can help me, I'd really appreciate it.
>
> This is how it goes:
> I use EZPPP to connnect, it dials the number, sends the right login and
> password, the server starts the ppp connection ( i see all those symbols
> like {{())
> and everything seems to be fine, but it doesn't work!!
>
> this is the output of ifconfig:
>
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
> UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1
> RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
> TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>
> ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
> inet addr:195.223.189.119 P-t-P:151.99.104.178 Mask:255.255.255.0
> UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:552 Metric:1
> RX packets:109 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
> TX packets:111 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>
> ping with 195.223.189.119 works fine while ping with 151.99.104.178
> doesn't work at all!!!
>
> this is the output of netstat -nr
>
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
> Iface
> 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 3584 0 0
> lo
> 151.99.104.178 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 552 0 0
> ppp0
> 195.223.189.119 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 3584 0 0
> lo
> 127.0.0.0 - 255.0.0.0 ! - - -
> -
> 0.0.0.0 151.99.104.178 0.0.0.0 UG 552 0 0
> ppp0
>
> this is my ppp option file
>
> # /etc/ppp/options (NO PAP/CHAP)
> #
> # Prevent pppd from forking into the background
> -detach
> #
> # use the modem control lines
> modem
> # use uucp style locks to ensure exclusive access to the serial device
> lock
> # use hardware flow control
> crtscts
> # create a default route NOT for this connection in the routing table
> noipdefault
> # do NOT set up any "escaped" control sequences
> asyncmap 0
> # use a maximum transmission packet size of 552 bytes
> mtu 552
> # use a maximum receive packet size of 552 bytes
> mru 552
> defaultroute
>
> this is my /etc/hosts file:
> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
>
> and this is the /etc/resolv.conf:
> search crown-net.com
> nameserver 151.99.104.178
>
> I really don't know about the nameserver, my ISP never gave me that number.
> I figured out that was the server number because it's the one that always
comes
> out
> when I connect, but that never asnwers to ping.
>
> I'll REALLY appreciate any help.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Giovanni Chierico
>
>
XISP is easier...............
:)
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
------------------------------
From: "al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Help, Kernel too big
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:20:59 +1100
If you tell us a few things about your system may help
ie version of slackware your using,processor,amount of ram ,hard drive size
space free ,video card, etc
Wael Sedky wrote in message ...
>>/usr/src/linux/arch/YOUR_ARCHETECTURE/boot/zimage
>
>
>I follow the book blindly:
>
>cd /usr/include
>rm -rf linux
>ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
>rm -rf asm
>ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm
>
>cd /usr/src/linux
>make mrproper
>
>make config or make menuconfig
>.......
>.....
>.......
>make dep
>make clean
>make zImage
>mv vmlinux /
>
>cd /etc
>joe lilo.conf
>*****edit lilo.conf*******
>save it
>lilo
>*******get the Kernel too big error**********
>*******rush to the newsgroup for help*******
>
>
------------------------------
From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: bash crashes, shutdown hangs, man flaky...
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:25:26 -0500
... coincidence? I think not! :->
I admit to being a newbie, but I've read various FAQ's and HOWTO's
without
seeing anything like this. I think it's just corruption or
misconfiguration, but it's damn annoying.
I'm running Red Hat 5.1 with a K6 AMD, 233MHz, PCI/ISA bus... Dual boot
with Windoze; HD has G's to spare. I chose the "install everything"
option at install time (sure, I might need HOWTO's in French and
Japanese). I haven't messed with bashrc.
I use tcsh for my own shell, but most system scripts seem to run bash.
I
don't have a formula that causes the problem, but if I use enough things
that run bash (e.g. on my system: init.d scripts, startx, and such basic
stuff), eventually they begin to crash with no explanation, often
without
even a segmentation fault. At this point, I can type "bash", type any
command (e.g. "echo foo"), and find myself suddenly outside of bash
again,
although the command is recorded in .bash_history.
Once this has happened, I find that shutting down (whether by "shutdown
now", "reboot" or three-fingered-salute) tends to hang shortly after
declaring runlevel 6 and "no more processes in this runlevel" (though
few,
if any, processes seem to actually be shut down). I cycle power and
have
to wait through fsck. *grr* What's more, the same inode comes up each
time with "Deleted inode xxxxx has zero dtime: FIXED"
On a possibly related note (less sure), man sometimes comes up with this
message:
>>
Error executing formatting or display command.
System command (cd /usr/man ; (echo -e ".pl 1100i"; cat
/usr/man/man1/man.1) | /usr/bin/gtbl | /usr/bin/groff -Tascii -mandoc |
/usr/bin/less -is) exited with status 139
No manual entry for man
<<
Logging out and back in seems to fix for a while.
One thing I should add is that I have PostgreSQL set up to init at
runlevel 3 and 5; postmaster leaves a lock file in /tmp which frequently
doesn't get rm'ed due to crashes, causing postmaster to fail at reboot,
which seems to precipitate these problems very quickly. I don't think
it's directly responsible, but who knows.
If anybody has any idea what the heck is going on (I've a sneaking
suspicion this is a stupid newbie trick I can clear up with a
judiciously
placed symlink or something), I'd appreciate any help offered.
Thanks--
Luke
------------------------------
From: "Scott Portinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-Windows/Mounting cd-rom
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:29:11 -0800
Thanks, I will try it.
Scott
Phil Reardon wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I can't help you with your monitor, but mounting the cdrom is easy. I have
a
>scsi cdrom, so I type
> mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom at the prompt. If you have a different sort
of
>cdrom, the device won't be scd0.
>
>
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Fried)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Error recompiling redhat 5.2 kernel
Date: 26 Jan 1999 04:09:07 GMT
"JLS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I assume you are in /usr/src/linux when you do this.
>
>Jeff Sofferin
>Philip Hart wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Hi -
>>
>>we are trying to recompile the latest Redhat 5.2 Kernel (i.e.2.0.36-3).
>>We do:
>>
>>- make mrproper
>>- make menuconfig
>>- make dep
>>- make clean
>>- make boot
Did you try make zImage instead of make boot followed by make modules?
>>We get the following error:
>>
>>make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers/pci'
>>gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
>>-fomit-f
>>rame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m386 -DCPU=386 -c -o pci.o
>>pci.c
>>pci.c:265: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_PLX_SPCOM200' undeclared here (not in a
>>function)
>>pci.c:265: initializer element for `dev_info[218].device' is not
>>constant
>>pci.c:266: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_PLX_9050' undeclared here (not in a function)
>>pci.c:266: initializer element for `dev_info[219].device' is not
>>constant
>>pci.c:407: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_SPECIALIX_IO8' undeclared here (not in a
>>function)
>>pci.c:407: initializer element for `dev_info[360].device' is not
>>constant
>>pci.c:439: `PCI_VENDOR_ID_ASIX' undeclared here (not in a function)
>>pci.c:439: initializer element for `dev_info[392].vendor' is not
>>constant
>>pci.c:439: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_ASIX_88140' undeclared here (not in a
>>function)
>>pci.c:439: initializer element for `dev_info[392].device' is not
>>constant
>>pci.c:520: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_ADAPTEC_1480A' undeclared here (not in a
>>function)
>>pci.c:520: initializer element for `dev_info[473].device' is not
>>constant
>>pci.c:538: `PCI_DEVICE_ID_ADAPTEC2_3950U2D' undeclared here (not in a
>>function)
>>pci.c:538: initializer element for `dev_info[491].device' is not
>>constant
>>pci.c: In function `pci_strvendor':
>>pci.c:844: `PCI_VENDOR_ID_ASIX' undeclared (first use this function)
>>pci.c:844: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
>>pci.c:844: for each function it appears in.)
>>make[3]: *** [pci.o] Error 1
>>make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers/pci'
>>make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
>>make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers/pci'
>>make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
>>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers'
>>make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
>>
>>Any idea as to what is wrong ?
>>
>>Phillip
>>
>>PS we also tried "make zImage" instead of "make boot", same results.
>
>
------------------------------
From: Dean Lombardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:39:00 +0000
steve mcadams wrote:
>
> [Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
> On 22 Jan 1999 06:53:08 GMT, "Benny K.Y. Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >1. Stability, stability, stability
> >2. Java support
> >3. Support my SoundBlaster AWE 64
> >4. Able to view VCD
> >5. Simpler setup & management
>
> Based solely on your requirements, I'd recommend Windows NT
> Workstation. (Gasp! Tar and feather the heretic!).
By the way, Creative Labs don't *really* support SB AWE 64 under NT,
only Win95/98 - the half-baked driver for NT they do provide does not
support many advanced features of the card. According to their Web
site, NT is not their primary target platform, and they are not going to
support it, at least not until NT5 is out. NT with SB AWE 64 is very
unstable - just run WinAmp and it'll bluescreen with
"IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL". (The only decent and stable sound driver for
NT that I know of is Turtle Beach's Daytona PCI.)
Dean
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (WHOtv.com)
Subject: Re: Help! - Hauppauge WINTV and Linux
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:27:10 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can help with one part of this...
For adding a caption to the image look at the man page on 'convert'.
Specifically the 'draw' command. It has an option that will do what you
want all from a command line.
I'm looking for similar functionality and will keep an eye on this
thread. I need to capture from one WinTV card but I need to be able to
control sources (ie. tuner channels, video port, s-video) from a command
line.
Stuart Rauh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <78fkda$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> I'm trying to setup a new RedHat 5.2 based Linux system to allow single
> frame captures from an Hauppauge WINTV PCI card installed in the box.
>
> Can anyone help with any of the following needs?
>
> * Need Linux to support the card. Add in device or new kernel, I don't
> care. I've tried to complie in the stuff from the BTTV web page but I keep
> getting gcc errors. I installed Linux 2.1.321 as I've been told 2.1.x has
> BT848 support built in but I'm not sure if it found the card or not
>
> * Need a command line single frame capture app. Need to capture a frame
> from the aux video port. Must run from the command line, NOT Xwindows and
> save in JPG or GIF would be okay too.
>
> * Need or would like a way to post capture, add a Caption to the bottom of
> the single frame. To add in a desc and date & time.
>
> If anyone can help with any piece of this, please post here or send me mail:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
--
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Crary)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: 26 Jan 1999 02:41:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I can get my Linux box to lock up fairly regularly when running
>> Mathematica. I want to try it on FreeBSD to see if I have the same
>> problem.
>I have never used Mathematica. What is it?
It's a mathematical program, and I'm not exactly sure how it could
lock up a machine. From a prompt, you can ask it to evaluate special
functions, solve differential equations, integrals or systems of linear
equations, and it will give you the answer in algebraic form. E.g.
if you do
> Integrate[x^2,x]
it will give you the integral of x^2 with respect to x and return
x^3/3
(Although that's a trivial example, and Mathematica can handle much
more complex equations.) It also will evaluate a wide range of
special functions, do some numerical calculations, and has some
nice plotting functions. Personally, I don't use it much because
I have better programs available when I want to plot data, and
using it for algebraic solutions doesn't help me much. (Although
I'm probably an exception in the later case: Wolfram, who makes
it, has an open challenge to anyone who can solve an equation
Mathematica can't, and I'm the only person I've every encountered
who managed to do that. It took a couple of months, needed some advice
from someone working on a related problem, needed it for other reasons,
and never told the company about it because their challenge didn't involve
a prize...) But Mathematica locking up a machine is odd. Their windows
interface and plotting code isn't _that_ buggy, and the only other problems
I can see are floating point exceptions and endless loops (in the case of
bad numerical solutions or evaluations of special functions) but Mathematica
is generally quite good about handling those problems, and even if
it were not, these problems should not lock up an entire machine.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Corliss)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 Jan 1999 20:59:40 -0900
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:58:31 +0100, Matthias Warkus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>You don't happen to know the German educational system?
>
><snicker> At least, they tell you the shape of your country in Germany, and
>they give you a free copy of the Constitution. And you don't need to pledge
>allegiance to a stupid *flag* - we ditched that kind of silliness after 1945.
<G> And I thought you were forced to give that up, especially since everytime
a person even saluted a flag, it made the Poles extremely nervous. . . ;-)
--Arthur Corliss
Bolverk's Lair -- http://www.odinicfoundation.org/arthur/
"Live Free or Die, the Only Way to Live" -- NH State Motto
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
