Linux-Misc Digest #763, Volume #24 Fri, 9 Jun 00 15:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: the 1024 cyl limit ("Kent A. Signorini")
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? (Rich Teer)
Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help (LFessen106)
Panasonic CD-RW 7585 locks up computer on CD-R recording ("David Cougle")
Linux version of windows updater ... (hhk)
Linux with Windows, HELP? ("Fernando Delgado")
Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction (Marcin Tustin)
digital recording software for linux? ("David Cougle")
winmodem SupraExpress 56i Diamond ("portuser")
Bash script almost finished (George Walford)
Re: Linux uses lots of memory? (Steve Lamb)
Re: How do I uncompress .tar.bz2? (Mail and News lists)
Re: Mystery Reboot - Have I been cracked? (aflinsch)
trouble with linux large file support ("Timo Volkmer")
Re: the 1024 cyl limit (Johan Kullstam)
Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help (David M. Cook)
Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help (David M. Cook)
Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: What distribution is most popular? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE.... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how to change text mode? (Martin Fenelon)
Re: gnome (The Procrastinator)
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From: "Kent A. Signorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the 1024 cyl limit
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:10:23 GMT
Hi. Thanks for the answer.
btw: Where do I find the new LILO? How new is it? Newer than the one that
ships with RH6.2?
The reason I asked this question is that I did a setup the other night where
I didn't have a /boot and just created a / partition. Now, before I exited
the RH fdisk program (whatever it's called) I was just creating my
partitions and setting mount points and it just wouldn't let me create a
partition more than 8 GB. And I hadn't even set it to mount at / yet. I
was just CREATING the partitions. I thought this was very weird, so I went
into Windows (dual boot) and partitioned it using Partition Commander
and when I reran the RH 6.2 fdisky thing, it had no problem. I got smart
then and created a /boot anyway, but it was very weird. Got me thinking
that and ext2 couldn't be bigger than 8GB. Guess not.
Thanks again,
Kent!
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:35:40 GMT
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:23:07 GMT, "Toaster Tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have read a few comparision of Intel vs. RISC processor and they tend to
> >come up the same. For integer instructions on similar MHZ CPUs Intel and
> >RISC are usually even. Where Intel loses big is floating point
> >instructions, RISC runs circles around Intel on floating point.
>
> It depends on what you are doing, and which RISC. The shipping 300MHz
> MIPS parts, 450MHz UltraSPARC IIs and the PowerPCs are all slower than
> the 1GHz Pentium III for the SPECfp95 and SPECfp2000 tasks, and even
> the 440MHz 8600 PA-RISC part in the N4000 is slower on SPECfp2000_base.
I'll not argue with this, but note that the original poster said
"... on similar MHZ CPUs ...". I wouldn't call 450 MHz "similar" to
1 GHz at all: it's more than double!
I don't know, but how does Intel @ 450 MHz compare to the other processors
AT THE SAME CLOCK RATE? My guess would be similar integer performance,
and worse FP performance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LFessen106)
Subject: Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help
Date: 09 Jun 2000 16:47:17 GMT
>1 & 2) Which is a better desktop environment to use, GNOME or KDE, and why?
Better question, why not use them both?
>
>3 & 4) I've installed RH 6.2 with both GNOME and KDE and found that the
>graphical sign-on screen defaults to GNOME. Is it possible to change the
>default to KDE? And also, how would I change the GNOME logo on the sign-on
>screen to reflect KDE if I go that way?
man switchdesk
>
>6) What would you suggest as replacement Linux app's for:
>
> MS-Office 97 (I have many documents with complex drawing elements on
>them -- lines/boxes/etc. done in Word97)
Staroffice (coming along very nicely)
> Photoshop
Gimp
> Allaire Homesite (for html editing)
pico (html is quite easy and it's much cleaner if you do it yourself)
> Thumbs Plus
> WinRAR
I think there's a rar program for Linux somewhere...
> a good FTP client (I'm sure there is no shortage of these)
nsftp
> a RealPlayer
realplayer
>7) Is Netscape the only good browser in Linux? I'm partial to IE5 because
>it handles pages better then Netscape (IMHO) and has more features. I
>design web sites part-time and need to be able to see both types of
>extensions.
Use lynx (MUCH quicker)
>10) Is there any problem using VFAT drives full-time while in Linux? My
>wife has a large amount of data already on a VFAT drive and I would hate to
>have to convert it to ext2.
Just mount the drive and use it. No problem.
>
>11) Is RH 6.2 a good choice for a distribution? I've looked at Corel Linux
>running at a store and it's a very clean desktop compared to the RH 6.2
>installed one but I think it's based on Debian and I'm not sure if RH is
>better or what.
I am partial to RedHat myself - personal preference I guess. You can do the
same things with either one. I have had more problems with Corel installs than
with RedHat though.
>
>12) Has anyone used VMWARE and does it work well?
Completely Awsome. You need some serious ram and processor speed to really
enjoy it though. And, of course, it does cost $100...
>
>13) How about WINE?
Not ready yet for serious use but it's coming along nicely and it's free. And
you know what they say, free is better than cheap!
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From: "David Cougle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Panasonic CD-RW 7585 locks up computer on CD-R recording
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 11:58:21 -0600
I tried cdrecord 1.8.1 and cdrecord 1.9 alpha, and for both, in the middle of
recording CD-R's
(or even before then), my ENTIRE machine locks up, and the lights go off on the
writing thing.
I have kernel 2.2.15, scsi emulation and all that. I have successfully written to
CD-RW's
though?
Please help, and please reply via email if possible.
thanks!
David
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Subject: Linux version of windows updater ...
From: hhk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 10:06:02 -0700
I am coming out with a 2 shell scripts that will automatically
login onto a ftp (or tftp) and for
script 1: get the latest kernel image (upgrage the kernel only)
script 2: get the whole disk image (upgrade the whole system)
when the system is rebooted, it will update what is required.
There is no user ineraction in the process.
Anyone has any suggestions to a Linux newbie?
THANKS!
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From: "Fernando Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux with Windows, HELP?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:09:53 GMT
I got two computers, one running linux and one running Windows, I got no
chance ;( .
I need to use both so I use to telnet the linux from the windoze.
Now I got a evalutation version of an X server for the windoze, it's ok
but...
There is any chance to do it the other way arround?
There is any kind of "video driver" that makes virtual screens in the
windoze that can be accesed from a linux box?
some thing like a "converter that make windows act like a X client.
I so, VCN but this is for single screen, I need many... could it be tweaked
to do several screens?
Thanks in advance.
Fernando.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcin Tustin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:14:32 +0100
In article <8hm3du$7bh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> In comp.os.linux.misc Marcin Tustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : In article <8hgtka$mfp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : says...
> :> In comp.os.linux.misc Marcin Tustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> : Using MAndrake 7.0
> :> : 1)Sound Card: During boot, ISAPNP fine, modprobe stage
> :> : returns "/lib/.../ad1816.o - device or resource busy" (Yes, module
> :> : exists). Anyone have any idea why?
> :>
> :> Could be anything. Most probably IRQ conflict or ioport conflict.
> :> Maybe it's not an ad1816 for real? Look at the driver code and activate
> :> some debugging to see if you can get more info, or advertise for info
> :> from ad1816 users (are there any?).
> :>
> :> : 2)Mops - I've heard it's possible to get mops to work under
> :>
> :> Mops? What's mops?
> :>
> :> : 3)Mail and news - anyone found a mail/news user agent that
> :> : compiles AND doesn't want to make them vomit (can't stand any that
> :>
> :> The point of using a distro is that they've done the compiling for you.
> :>
> :> I use elm and tin. Have worked fine for years.
>
> : I was thinking of software which doesn't require me to
> : navigate a million modes to send email. I may have to content
> : myself with Kmail.
>
> Eh? what modes? I type "r" to reply. "g" to "group reply". "f" to
> "forward". I scroll up and down with a cursor. I hit <enter> to
> read a message. Seems perfectly intuitive and straightforward to me.
I have to go through so many screens to configure things
and find options. A cursory glance at options and online help
(accessed via ? rather than info pages) show no way of accessing
POP mail.
> I'm afraid you are maybe mixing up kmail with elm. Kmail, being a gui,
> has modes. That is, the same actions (clicking with a mouse, for
> example), have different effects in different contexts.
Kmail is a gui, and hence has no modes (as a rule). For
instance, in JBN (A windows mailer), I can be both composing
messages, configuring the app, and reading mail.
> Elm is also a gui, and thus also has modes, but can use considerably
> more input vocabulary, being keyboard driven and not mouse driven.
> Thus its modality is not so evident, since you scarely ever use the same
> lexicon in different modes, let alone the same command to mean two
> different things. Personally I don't have any trouble with context
> dependent languages anyway, so I don't even care.
Not in Linux now, but haven't seen elm IIRC.
> :> : come with mandrake)? Also, any HOWTOs on transport agents
> :>
> :> You mean sendmail? Read the sendmail book, or ignore it. Try
> :> sendmail.org. This is not a problem.
>
> : "The sendmail book" - What? Is that something I should know
> : the actual title of, like the complete works of Shakespeare, or
> : something?
>
> Yep.
Well, in that case.
> :> : (according to the LDP mail-HOWTO there's no need to cover how I'm
> :> : supposed to have the mua's transport the mail - I guess that it's
> :>
> :> Indeed.
>
> Peter
>
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From: "David Cougle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: digital recording software for linux?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 12:13:43 -0600
Is there anything similar to cakewalk or at least digital orchestrator plus for linux,
with full
duplex, some basic effects, and multi track recording?
please reply via email.
thanks!
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From: "portuser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: winmodem SupraExpress 56i Diamond
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:19:59 GMT
Hola :)
Tengo un modem SupraExpress 56i de Diamond.Como winmodem ke es
no funciona bajo LINUX, pero me han dicho por ah� ke alguien ha conseguido
ke funcione, conoce alguien a esa persona?? O sabe alguien si realmente
puede
funcionar y como conseguirlo???
Salu2...8)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Walford)
Subject: Bash script almost finished
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:40:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need this script to upload from our primary FTP server to some
secondary FTP servers (you guys were so helpful before on this! :)
This *ALMOST* works. I can upload files in a script with the ncftpput
command. The problem I have encountered is that I need to find some
files based on -ctime 1 and have those files uploaded via ncftpput to
the server. Below is what I have come up with - and its close. The
problem is the cpio copies the output from find including directories,
I dont want the directories, only the files themselves (no archiving).
How do I pass the output from find to ncftpput so that the files
selected with find are uploaded to the sites? (I tried using the -c
flag but that did not seem to work properly.)
#!/bin/bash
# FTP distributing script
find /home/flibble/windward/test -print0 -ctime 1 -type f | cpio
--null -pdv
/tmp/test/
ncftpput -u USER -p XXXXXX FTP.SITE /home/george *
echo upload complete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux uses lots of memory?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 17:39:26 GMT
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 06:53:17 GMT, M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, you can get away with 20MB, using e.g. icewm or fvwm2 as your
>window manager. But what else do you have to run to make it "usable"?
rxvt
>my world. You don't need XFree86 unless you want to run Netscape or
>some GUI-dependant office application, anyways, so why bother ?
>All other apps are better and easier being managed on text terminals.
*snicker* Tell that to me again. This is being written in vim off slrn
through an ssh connection to my home machine from my work solaris box running
icewm forwarded to Exceed on my WindowsNT box.
X allows me to do something that nothing but splitvt does and it does it
pooly. Oooh, look, two ttys at once. One has a man page in it for me to
refer off of while the other has the actual editing I want to do in it. I
also happen to /like/ sticky focus.
Clearly you don't consider this functional whereas *I* do. That is why I
pointed out that it all depends on your definition of functional.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail and News lists)
Subject: Re: How do I uncompress .tar.bz2?
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:16:03 +0530
If you are not using too old a distribution it should be on your box. try
bunzip2 file.bz2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> does one uncompress .tar.bz2 exactly? I'm used to .tar.gz or some other
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Mystery Reboot - Have I been cracked?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:45:39 -0500
"L. Bailey" wrote:
> Abit BP6
> 2 Celeron 366's overclocked to 550
>
>
> I have cable modem and a strong firewall between me and the world at my
> ISP. Have I been cracked anyway?
more likely a power blip or something funky due to the overclocked
processors.
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From: "Timo Volkmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: trouble with linux large file support
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:37:25 +0200
Hi everybody,
I am currently porting an application to Linux. We use SuSE-Linux 6.2 with
kernel 2.2.10 and libc6-Version 2.9.
Our GUI uses Ilog-Products (Views 3.11, Inform 3.02 and DBLink 4.01).
I am getting tons of undefined references while linking their libraries
agains our libstdc++. They are calling ostream::seekp(long) but in the the
libstdc++ there's only defined a function ostream::seekp(long long) because
of the large file support. I don't want to downgrade to an older libc6 and
I have no means to change any of Ilog's function calls.
Is there a proper way of handling this?
Is there perhaps a compiler-flag or variable which could be set?
I am currently searching all the Linux sources to find something but I have
not been lucky with it so far.
I will greatly appreciate any help, this is really important for me since I
am writing my thesis on that.
Thanks !!
Timo.
Please answer to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the 1024 cyl limit
Date: 09 Jun 2000 14:03:49 -0400
"Kent A. Signorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I actually have 3 drives in my machine. 10GB (my system), 13GB (my data),
> 20GB (my wife's data).
> Tell me, can I mount both data drives to /home or does each need a
> different mount point?
they need different mount points. this is a long standing imho flaw
of unix.
some commericial unices have something called LVM (logical volume
manager?) which allows you to spread a partition across multiple
disks. afaik linux does not have this yet. it might be in 2.[34].
the other option is software raid. i am not sure about all the
particulars. i think that even raid 0 will assume all disks are the
same and hence treat them all as if they were the smallest of them.
thus 20GB + 13GB = 13+13GB = 26GB.
> I could always mount my data to /home/kent and hers to /home/allison
this is probably best.
> or whatever, but I'm curious about mounting both to one point
> anyway.
--
johan kullstam l72t00052
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:19:47 GMT
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 05:04:12 GMT, Kent A. Signorini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> WinRAR
You can get a rar binary for Linux (command line, but that's all that's
needed). Try a google.com/linux search.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: I want to switch to Linux - Please Help
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:30:36 GMT
On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 05:04:12 GMT, Kent A. Signorini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>1 & 2) Which is a better desktop environment to use, GNOME or KDE, and why?
Install both and try them yourself. I also suggest trying Window Maker.
> Allaire Homesite (for html editing)
I believe there are some things like this out there. Check at linuxberg.com.
> Thumbs Plus
Is this an image viewer? I still prefer xv for this (no longer included
on the main Red Hat disc, but I think it's on the Power Tools CD.)
> a DVD player
See www.opendvd.org.
> CD-burning software for data and music
I just use cdrecord for data CDs. CDRDAO is probably what you want for
music CDs, but I haven't tried it.
Dave Cook
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:23:11 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Marcin Tustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8hm3du$7bh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Eh? what modes? I type "r" to reply. "g" to "group reply". "f" to
:> "forward". I scroll up and down with a cursor. I hit <enter> to
:> read a message. Seems perfectly intuitive and straightforward to me.
: I have to go through so many screens to configure things
: and find options. A cursory glance at options and online help
There's nothing to configure. Elm doesn't fetch mail from a pop server.
Use fetchmail to do that (start it in daemon mode and leave it running).
Elm is a MUA not an MTA.
: (accessed via ? rather than info pages) show no way of accessing
: POP mail.
As to configuring the rest of elm, you edit the elmrc. Not that I have
ever since doing it once many years ago.
:> I'm afraid you are maybe mixing up kmail with elm. Kmail, being a gui,
:> has modes. That is, the same actions (clicking with a mouse, for
:> example), have different effects in different contexts.
: Kmail is a gui, and hence has no modes (as a rule). For
: instance, in JBN (A windows mailer), I can be both composing
: messages, configuring the app, and reading mail.
Then you are working in several different modes of behaviour of your
gui at once. Congrats. In each of those modes, the same action as
in another mode often does something quite different. For example,
clicking on OK may mean "send mail" in one mode and "killfile
this person" in another mode. You may claim that the action in
both cases is "approve the command mentioned above the button",
but I'd call that _explicitly_ context sensitive semantics!
And the same thing happens when you're prompted for "y/n" in a
text mode gui like elm. Thank goodness you can turn it off.
Just pointing out that you'll have to be a linguistic and semantic
expert to enter the conversation here.
:> Elm is also a gui, and thus also has modes, but can use considerably
:> more input vocabulary, being keyboard driven and not mouse driven.
:> Thus its modality is not so evident, since you scarely ever use the same
:> lexicon in different modes, let alone the same command to mean two
:> different things. Personally I don't have any trouble with context
:> dependent languages anyway, so I don't even care.
: Not in Linux now, but haven't seen elm IIRC.
Elm is the classic unix mailer. It came just after mail, as I recall.
Pine (Pine Is Not Elm) is claimed by many to be the replacement that
beats the world out, but I've never been able to stand it.
:> :> : (according to the LDP mail-HOWTO there's no need to cover how I'm
:> :> : supposed to have the mua's transport the mail - I guess that it's
:> :>
:> :> Indeed.
They'll either send the thing out directly to the recipients port 25,
or evoke sendmail to do it for them. Likely the latter.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What distribution is most popular?
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:33:26 GMT
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8hq7ku$gqt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> Michael Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*del*> wrote:
:>: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:>:>a monitor driver ??? there are no drivers in linux (only modules) and
:>:>certainly no monitor drivers. Had you installed Debian or Slack and gotten
:>:>X to work you wouldn't be writing such things.
:>
:>: Ok, ok, so I'll call it a module then.
:>
:> Noooooo. You don't understand. Monitors Do Not Have Drivers. OK?
:> They are conected to a video card. The o/s drives the card. The card
:> drives the monitor. The o/s knows nothing about which monitor is
:> conected to the card, or even if you have a monitor conected to the
:> card or not.
:>
:>: However you wish to term it, my monitor was not supported, but
:>
:> Your monitor IS supported. Any monitor is supported.
:>
:>: I was able to enter the refresh rate ranges from the old manual.
:>
:> There you are!
: I think you're talking at cross purposes here.
I'm not. He is. :-). I know quite well what he is saying and what he
thinks he is saying and what he means to be saying, and what I am
saying, etc. etc. And you do too!
: Although there are no
: drivers, modules, or what have you for monitors, X configuration
: utilities do routinely include lists of monitors that a user can select.
Of course. Sometimes they're even a bit of a time saver. Instead of the
usual random guess at H and V that I make, I was amazed to find that
SuSE 6.4 had the exact model number of the cheap monitor I was
staring at in their database, and could supply them for me! I hope that
was an XF86 database. 'Course, I went on to change those values
completely, as the manufacturer's data sheet was self-evidently wishful
thinking.
: Michael seems to be describing a situation in which his monitor was not
: included in the list provided by whatever X configuration utility he was
Indeed.
: using. So in some sense it's true that his monitor was not "supported,"
That's not a sense of sense that I know, since not listing a monitor
doesn't amount to not supporting it, any more than listing it amounts
to supporting it. "Support" is a description of a policy applied by a
supplier vis-a-vis some target. In what way does your use of "support"
differentiate itself from "recognize" or, randomly, "contickle"!
: even though, as you point out, it's possible to get it working by
: entering the data for the monitor.
It's more than possible. It's sufficient.
: One further meta-comment: Most modern monitors and video cards support
: two-way communication so that the OS can discover the monitor's
: supported resolutions and set them automatically. I have yet to see any
: evidence that this is supported by XFree86. Has it been added in XFree86
: 4.0, by chance? This is an important area where Linux still lags behind
: Windows.
The so-called PnP thing? I also don't know. I think there was a rumour
of it, but Idon't think it went through. I may be mistaken .. I haven't
looked at 4.0 yet.
Technically, I would guess that it's easy to mistake a monitor that
doesn't respond for one that responds weirdly.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste in Linux/KDE....
Date: 9 Jun 2000 18:36:59 GMT
The Almighty One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: gotta give M$ a brownie point for that : highlight, ctrl-c to copy, click,
: ctrl-v to paste
: global clipboarding ...
This happens automatically in X.
: Tux wrote:
:> Is there some way that I can use cut and paste procedures in KDE...
Just select using the left button (possibly also shift). Paste with the
right button.
Peter
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From: Martin Fenelon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to change text mode?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:49:41 +0100
FWIW
The VGA=[selection] also works with LoadLin, as does most if not all of
the LiLo commands.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <8hqnkn$pg3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Craig Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (x86 obviously)
> >
> > I have lilo start linux up with 50 rows in text mode. How can I change
> > it on the fly to 25? Something comparable to the old mode co80,25 kind
> > of thing.
> >
> Insert this in /etc/lilo.conf: vga=ask
> THen run lilo so the system will recognize the new conf
> Reboot but stick around, it will prompt you for video mode selection
> (1=80x25, 2=80x30, etc)
> Leave the ask in there for a couple more reboots so that you can
> decide which one you want. Once you've made a decision, it's a simple
> matter of changing the line to vga=thenumber, running lilo, and
> VOILA. The succeeding reboots will always have that video mode
> --
> Don't e-mail your response
> Post it right here, but if you must, I'm also at
> annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
>
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> Before you buy.
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From: The Procrastinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:14:37 +0100
Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi
> i'm compiling gnome on my suse 6.2 linux box, but to compile,
> gnome-utils-1.2.0 i need e2fsprogs and e2fsprogs-devel. Where can i find
> that package??? I don't find it on the gnome-site.
> tx
e2fsprogs
As far as I remember Theodore Ts'O is the maintainter.
His web site is at http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/
If you look in the base packages installed on SuSE there is e2fsprogs
However there is no libuuid.so
But there is something called uuidgen somewhere ? instead.
I thing gnome-utils-x is on the gnome site, look under both the stable
and unstabel trees.
Have fun!
Adrian
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