Linux-Misc Digest #784, Volume #18 Wed, 27 Jan 99 13:13:17 EST
Contents:
Re: Kernel 2.2 Stable Problem with RealTek 8129/8139 ethernet ("G. McKenzie")
Re: (Symbolic) Links (Erwin Waterlander)
Merger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Automount (jim)
Re: hp720c installation problems ... (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: problem with rm? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Anyone using X on NEC 4DS? (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ("Keith G. Murphy")
Database for LINUX (Redhat 5.0 or up) (Fitz)
Ghostscript:svgalib: can't open /dev/console...why?? (Yasutaka Danke Hirasawa)
Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!! (Todd Schrubb)
Re: Got Hack ! (Brian)
Re: ipfwadm help (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Zenin)
network time problem (John Thompson)
as fails with Sig 11 on PS/2 (Rod Brick)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks ("Keith G. Murphy")
Gnome: GDK sigsegv error! (John David Bowden)
network card setup problem ("CTI News")
Re: kernel 2.20 problem (Ken Witherow)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Greg S. Trouw")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out! (Steven Castillo)
Re: linux max RAM is 1GB? (Mark Ramos)
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From: "G. McKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2 Stable Problem with RealTek 8129/8139 ethernet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:28:57 GMT
Tim Moore wrote:
> Haven't compiled yet but remember seeing a suggestion to use something
> besides xconfig. Or just manually set the config to =m or =y.
>
> Several upgrade guides on http://www.linuxhq.com/
> --
> [Replies: remove the dot(s)]
>
> "Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
> WS Burroughs.
Ah config (not xconfig) does not even have Realtek 8129/8139 as a choice
if I remember correctly.
Thanx anyway.
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From: Erwin Waterlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:53:50 GMT
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Bill Simpson wrote:
> I have a question on symbolic links:
> how do you remove one? When I try rm it doesn't work. (I take it these
> show up as filename@)
It shows up as filename@ Because you use -F option with ls.
Perhaps ls is aliased to "ls -F"
$ rm filename
should work.
check the permissions of the link if it doesn't.
$ ls -l filename
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Erwin Waterlander
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Merger
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:29:00 GMT
Did you hear the news?
Database giant Oracle plans to purchase Linux vendor Debian.
The resulting company will be called "Debacle"
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From: jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Automount
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:04:17 GMT
Rick Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there an automount program for linux?
Yes. Search for autofs.
--
jim
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: hp720c installation problems ...
Date: 26 Jan 1999 18:36:43 -0800
>Is somebody have a procedure to install a hp 720c printer on RedHat 5.1?
I assume that is a parallel port printer. Then installing it and getting
it to print ASCII text should be simple enough:
insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/lp.o
perl -e 'print "This is a test\r\n\f"' > /dev/lp0
Which should give you the words "This is a test" on a single sheet of
paper.
In terms of anything more fancy, the printer *should* speak pcl just fine.
Just tell RedHat's printer configurator that it is a HP Laserjet III
or similar printer. You shouldn't have any problems.
- Sam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: problem with rm?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:24:50 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:02:42 GMT...
..and NF Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter.vanHelden) wrote:
>
> >There's a process running that has the file open. This is Unix unlink(2)
> >semantics.
>
> Use fuser to find out which process has the file open.
Oh, I love the way someone has thought of everything in Unix.
That's because its 30 years old, probably. Like a good wine, it only gets
better.
Perhaps some day, I will get along to do that long hymn about how intuitive
cp, mv and ln work. People have really put some brains in there.
mawa
--
Matthias Warkus | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dyson Spheres for sale!
My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
lowers your social status...
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone using X on NEC 4DS?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:17:17 +0100
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There is a XSuSE X-server for diamond cards perhaps that will work.
http://www.suse.com
Raymond
Kyle Tucker wrote:
> I am into my 3rd week trying to get XFree86 S3 server to work
> with this monitor using a Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM? If you've got
> a working XF86Config file, please email it to me. I'm desperate.
> Thanks.
>
> --
> - Kyle
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:14:38 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Julian T. J. Midgley wrote:
>
> Microsoft buys Hotmail, says "ha, we don't want any of this poxy Unix
> stuff here", replaces all the servers with NT servers, and discovers
> very rapidly that NT can't cope with the load. Equally rapidly, they
> discover they haven't a chance in hell of fixing NT so that it can
> cope with the load in time, so restore the old Linux [IIRC- may have
> been some other brand of Unix] servers, which chug along merrily
> wondering what on earth it was that NT was finding difficult about
> all this.
>
Apparently, they're running FreeBSD. See http://www.netcraft.com.
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From: Fitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Database for LINUX (Redhat 5.0 or up)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:33:19 -0800
Hi everybody!
I am looking for a database application that will be used for running
small business. It will run under x86 Red Hat Linux, and I don't know
which database is good for keeping customer/client records and for
accounting (bookeeping, acct recv., acct payable, etc). Anybody with
knowledge and could give input will be greatly appreciatd!
Thanks!
Fitz
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From: Yasutaka Danke Hirasawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ghostscript:svgalib: can't open /dev/console...why??
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:07:36 -0500
I have installed Linux (Slackware3.5) and it's been working fine,
including X -window and text printing. Now I like to try Ghostscript for
PostScript file printing. However, when I just type "gs" to load in
interactive mode from xterm console, it complains: svgalib: can't open
/dev/console.
What's wrong with it?
Thank you for your help....
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From: Todd Schrubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:09:37 -0500
You're right, it was hardware! I changed my com setting AND IRQ (cause my modem
allows different
settings that the norm, i.e. COM3 w/ IRQ7). It all seems to work at /dev/cua1 & IRQ3.
Thanks
for the help!
Bill Unruh wrote:
> In <78lfiv$444$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jeremy Ellman"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >I've finally (after several weeks fixed this one) thanks to some kind soul.
> >It seems that Linux (or at least Red Hat 5.1) uses the same interrupts for
> >/dev/cua0 (DOS COM1) typically your mouse,
> >and /dev/cua2 (COM3 -- usually the modem).
>
> This is a harware issue, and has nothing to do with Linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian)
Subject: Re: Got Hack !
Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:38:09 -0700
send me your root password And ill secure your system for you. :)
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:50:24 +0800, Louis Alexendra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My Redhat Linux Box get hacked few days ago. Now I am installing again
>the clean system and I don't wish to get hacked again. Could anyone out
>there teach me how to avoid get hacked? Any tools to use? Thanks very
>much.
>
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipfwadm help
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:15:37 +0100
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Go and see www.xos.nl they are the gurus on linux firewalling and the
patched ipfwadm also.
Raymond
Yan Seiner wrote:
> I am trying to configure ipfwadm on my system. I have a linux 2.0.35
> box that acts as a samba server and a dial-up internet connection.
>
> I am using ipfwadm 2.3.0. Every time I try to bring up ipfwadm, it
> blocks DNS, DHCP, or some other stuff, and basically renders the network
> useless.
>
> It appears that ipfwadm does not recognize the -V or -W options, as the
> deny seems to apply equally to all interfaces and IP addresses
> regardless of what I specify.
>
> I would appreciate a working ipfwadm config so I can verify if this is a
> config problem or a kernel build or other problem.
>
> I am using DNS caching server and ssh and IP masq. I am not running any
> services that outsiders need to connect to except ssh.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Yan
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Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
From: Zenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: 27 Jan 99 03:49:47 GMT
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason O'Rourke)
: spake unto us, saying:
>snip<
: >A linux machine that doesn't get patched as needed is an open doorway
: >for intruders.
:
: Not if the servers aren't exposed. Trusted employees breaking into
: servers on one's intranet are threats regardless of the OSes used.
Most major companies don't trust there sysadmins, let alone there
lower level employees. Infact, the primary threats to company
security are from within. To this point, many of the Intranet
systems I work on are run through SSL. Not just 40 bit SSL either,
full 120 bit SSL with web server to database connections done over a
switched network in a secure room.
I've yet to see a single Linux box anywere on such networks.
Solaris, VMS, NT, FreeBSD, HPUX, AIX, et al, but never Linux once.
At one company they wanted to run a full security check on my lap
top before letting it connect to there network (pretty common
actually). I told them I ran Unix on it and not Windows. They
replied that they still are required to check Linux machines
(assuming that's what I meant when I said "Unix"). I told him is
wasn't Linux but FreeBSD and he says, "Oh sorry, you're ok then.".
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From The Blue Camel we learn:
BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC
Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only
medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution".
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: network time problem
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:42:11 -0500
I'm trying to set up a means of synchronizing my two
computers' clocks (one running OS/2, the other linux) via
the lan. I have the OS/2 program "time868" configured to
synchronize the OS/2 machine's clock with the NIST time
server on the internet when the OS/2 machine dials in to
collect news and mail. So far so good. Time868 has a
"server" option, which in theory should allow me to use
rdate on the linux machine to synchronize with the OS/2
machines clock. Rdate appears to only work with tcp, so I
configured time868 to use tcp in server mode.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work with tcp; I get a
"connection refused" error with both rdate and if I try to
connect to the server using the loopback interface on the
OS/2 machine. If I configure time868 to use udp, I can
connect to the server through the loopback interface, but
linux' rdate doesn't seem to support udp.
So, how can I either 1) configure my OS/2 system to use tcp
for the time server, or 2) get linux to use udp to contact
the OS/2 timeserver?
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Rod Brick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: as fails with Sig 11 on PS/2
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:42:31 -0600
We've been trying to get gcc working on an old PS/2 model 55, 386. The
GCC version is 2.7.2p. I've seen mention that the optimization of the
'p' compiler might not work on all machines. But, we're just trying to
compile a hello world, and it's 'as' that's failing. We can run 'gcc -S
hello.c' and get a valid assembly file, but when running 'as' on that
file, we get the signal 11.
When trying to compile all the way with GCC, we get:
gcc: Internal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11
--
Has anyone seen the behavior with 'as'? Up until trying to get GCC to
work, this system has been very stable for many months.
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux benchmarks
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:49:50 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rahul Dhesi wrote:
>
> Did you look at the charts in Microsoft's document at the URL below?
> Until they added a front-end to bypass bad servers, they had not a
> single day of 100% uptime. The ONLY way to make NT reliably serve web
> pages is to keep detecting bad servers and removing them from service.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/misc/backstage/solutions.htm
>
I didn't see any charts, or a specific reference to what you're saying.
I tried to go to one of the other pages linked to by that one, but it
didn't work. :-)
They did talk about failover, but that would be expected on a server
farm that size.
One thing I did notice was that they kept annoyingly using the term
"SQL" to mean "SQL Server". Could IBM do something about this, do you
think?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John David Bowden)
Subject: Gnome: GDK sigsegv error!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 14:53:59 GMT
I just installed Gnome-0.30 (0.99 was a problem) from the sunsite/metalab
FTP site, under the redhat directory. The install was alright, though rpm
seg'd for gnome-core. I just ran that again, and it was alright.
But - the panel won't start. I get an error:
Initializing CORBA for panel...
Gdk Message:
** ERROR **: sigsegv caught
What's up with this? I heard that CORBA/ORBit does a hostname-lookup, and
if it runs into problems, it won't start. Akin to the sendmail hang -
which I yet have to fix.
I've got RH5.2.
Suggestions?
John
--
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From: "CTI News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: network card setup problem
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:01:23 +0800
My PC config as follows:
Compaq Deskpro2000 133, 32MRAM, 3.2GHDD,
SB16, 3Com 3c509, S3virge, NEC SCSI CDROM
and ataptec 1542.
I installed SUSE5.3, used yast to config the system.
The 3c509 is detected and been set as eth0,
ip, netmask, gateway, .. everything input.
During booting, i saw the rc.config being loaded and
3c509 driver binded as eth0. However, in "ifconfig" there's
no eth0, but only a dummy device + local loopback?
Pls. help. :-)
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From: Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.20 problem
Date: 27 Jan 1999 03:23:58 GMT
ty wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just compiled kernel 2.20, and got the following error message. Does
> anyone know what's the problem and how to correct it?
>
> ld -m elf_i386 -T /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds -e stext
> arch/i386/kernel/head.o arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o
> init/version.o \
> --start-group \
> arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o
> mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \
> fs/filesystems.a \
> net/network.a \
> drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/misc/misc.a
> drivers/net/net.a drivers/scsi/scsi.a drivers/cdrom/cdrom.a
> drivers/sound/sound.a drivers/pci/pci.a drivers/pnp/pnp.a
> drivers/video/video.a \
> /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/lib/lib.a
> /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a \
> --end-group \
> -o vmlinux
> drivers/sound/sound.a(sb_ess.o): In function `ess_init':
> sb_ess.o(.text+0xde2): undefined reference to `esstype'
> sb_ess.o(.text+0xe77): undefined reference to `esstype'
> make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
Get alan cox' patch from ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/alan/2.2
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From: "Greg S. Trouw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:49:14 -0700
Course win9x isn't in Linux's class. Win9x was considered more of a
"consumer" OS (that is if the consumers are considered such that they
shouldn't have stable OSes). WinNT is considered more of the network
server (and workstation) type OS, so win9x, forget it.
My opinion on win98 to test things, is forget it, good old Dos
allows one to get closer to the hardware to run some diagnostics like
checkit on the computer. My computer has a multi-boot between winNT
(which I use mostly), win98 (which I'm not all that thrilled with but
some programs require win9x), and Dos primarily used to allow me to get
down to the hardware if I need to check something out. I would put
Linux on also as a 4th OS, especially considering that in the CS
department here, many use it but versions I've installed in the past
don't want to accept my Adaptec AHA-2940u2w SCSI card and I have a 100%
SCSI disk system based on this, and also my hard drive (a 9.1 GB Ultra2
Wide Seagate Cheetah) I wouldn't want to replace with a slower drive.
Performance wise, win98 is slower then win95 ever was and winNT 4.0 SP4
is even though NT has IIS 4.0, other servers, and about 40 some
processes of TSRs running on it, whereas win98 is almost a freshly
installed OS. Even considering these differences (comparing the actual
systems being run and not evening up the loads on each) Winbench 99
gives about a 3% INCREASE in performance over win98. Even it up even
more such as changing my winNT screen resolution to 1152x1024 (which
win98 is running and was during its test) from the 1280x1024 I normally
run in winNT, and the performance points in winNT goes up even more by
at least 3-5 performance points, and winNT is still running more. My
take, forget win98 (unless you need it for some programs like I do), not
that good for testing hardware even. Run winNT, run Linux, run
something else, but unless you need win9x for software support forget
win98.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:46:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Richard LaFrance wrote:
> >
> > What a goof, MS Word 6 will run on a 486/25 4mb Machine, as for Star
Office,24mb
> > will keep it happy.
>
> It might run on it but is it worth running on it? If all I had was a
> 486/25 I would give up computing all together.
Try starting on a Zilog Z80, moving along to a 8080 and then with a
degree of patience (and some talent) you may come to realise that
the bigger the machine, does not always mean the most usefull (of
machines).
Mark.
>
> --
> From: Frank Hale
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 7205161
> Website: http://www.franksstuff.com/
>
> "100% Pure Linux"
>
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From: Steven Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel WP8.0 Personal Edition is Out!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 10:18:05 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter D. pawelek) writes:
> I just wanted to announce that Corel's Wordperfect 8.0
> Personal Edition for Linux is out in the stores. I picked
> mine up here in Montreal for $89.00 (Canadian). Glad to
> see that it finally arrived!! Oh, and it has a manual...
> a big thick one at that. Kudos to Corel for bucking the
> trend and providing good paper documentation!
>
>
> Peter ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I received my copy from Linuxmall for $47.
Steve C.
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From: Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: linux max RAM is 1GB?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:08:58 -0800
Richard Payne wrote:
> It's a problem with the Intel processors.
That must be per cpu because ASL is selling dual Xeon's with up to 2GB RAM and
quad Xeon's up to 8GB RAM. Check out www.aslab.com Even if it is per cpu
they said Linux won't be able to support the higher RAM capacity.
Mark
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