Linux-Misc Digest #819, Volume #27                Wed, 9 May 01 19:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  GRUB really is better than LILO! (Was: Re: GRUB: How to install to hard disk 
(without installing Linux) ?) (Kenny McCormack)
  Re: Time question (David Efflandt)
  Re: r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed in kernel 2.4.2 (J Hayward)
  Re: Quick question: how to copy files *and* directories? ("Lovecraftesque")
  Re: Red Hat Linux 7 With RCA (AT&T@Home) Cable Modem (Leonard Evens)
  ipchains + lpd help.. (Ish Rattan)
  Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux ("Chris Divine")
  Re: How come... ("Scott Stembaugh")
  Utility for parsing RPM database? ("Chris Divine")
  Mozilla 0.9 and SSL (John Thompson)
  Re: Running from a RAM Disk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Utility for parsing RPM database? (J Hayward)
  Re: Utility for parsing RPM database? (Robert Lynch)
  Re: Mozilla 0.9 and SSL (Joshua Baker-LePain)
  Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse ("/dev/coffee \(Mark\)")
  Re: Utility for parsing RPM database? (Michael Heiming)
  How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips? ("S. Z. Zhou")
  Re: Linux market share by distribution (Adriel Michaud)
  Re: Archiving a NG (Darren Wyn Rees)
  Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux (Gareth Jones)
  Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips? (A. Dueselder)
  Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips? (Michael Heiming)
  Deja News Reader Software (Youngert)
  Re: Utility for parsing RPM database? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: load average (Michael Heiming)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: GRUB really is better than LILO! (Was: Re: GRUB: How to install to hard disk 
(without installing Linux) ?)
Date: 9 May 2001 15:00:44 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <9db0dn$mbk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kenny McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Frank Ranner  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>>> And, to get to the real point, can I create a small ext2fs partition on the
>>> disk, and put the stuff from the floppy there (doing all this from a Linux
>>> boot/rescue floppy) - without installing Linux on the machine - and have
>>> GRUB find the stuff there and work (w/o the floppy being present) ?
>
>>you can have grub on a fat disk, in \boot\grub
>>From memory you point to it using
>>root (hd0,0)
>>setup (hd0)
>
>Glad to hear it.  I'll give it a shot.

Worked a treat.  No need to install Linux or any EXT2FS file systems.  I
highly reccomment this to anyone having troubles with LILO.

One thing about it, though, that I found "hinkey".  You have to copy the
contents of the /boot/grub directory from the floppy to /boot/grub on the
(FAT) hard disk.  This works just fine, but the funny things is this: You
can put it into /grub instead and the installer will find it (You can tell
from the error messages that it looks in both dirs), but the glitch is that
it won't fine the "menu.lst" file in /grub - that *has* to be in /boot/grub.

That's what I find weird - that it lets you install from /grub, but silently
ignores the "menu.lst" file if you do.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Time question
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:21:34 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 08 May 2001 13:09:58 -0700, Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Daniel Kenzelmann wrote:
>> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Warren Bell"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> > Oops, yeah I'm using Mandrake 7.2.  If I do use local time in the bios
>> > will the system still set up the system time on reboot to know whether
>> > its standard time or daylight savings time?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> 
>> Yeah, no prob, the bios time will stay on GMT and system time will be
>> set according to standard time or daylight saving time ... i use rh7.1
>> with GMT and it still shows me the time like this:
>> Tue May  8 20:57:24 CEST 2001
> 
> Ok, but my question was if I set the bios time to local time, not GMT, 
> will the system still be able to detect and set standard time and
> daylight savings time?

The system (software) clock will automaticallyly change to daylight
savings time.  However, you will need to update the localtime in your
hardware (CMOS)  clock when the time shifts.  You do this with setclock in
RedHat/Mandrake or hwclock in other distros, possibly from cron (or boot
to Windows and let it change it).  Apparently Windows simply changes the
localtime in the CMOS clock instead of using its daylight savings time
bit.

'ntpdate' from the 'xntp' package is a good way to keep your system clock
on time (unless you have a big system that could use xntpd to keep all 
boxes in sync).

I learned learned something about the daylight savings time bit when
writing an assembly language program to set and use the CMOS alarm to run
a DOS program at a set date/time.  When I rewrote it for C++ in Win3.1 it
grew from 4K to 150K.

-- 
David Efflandt  (Reply-To is valid)  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/

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From: J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed in kernel 2.4.2
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:21:35 -0700

Hello,

Read this thread from the seawolf mailing list, it has your answer:

On Wed, 9 May 2001, John Horne wrote:

>> r128_do_wait_for_idle failed!
>
>> May  7 05:31:22 seawolf kernel: [drm:r128_do_wait_for_fifo] *ERROR*
>> r128_do_wait_for_fifo failed!
>>
>but I do see this one :-) I have an ati rage 128 (16mb), but as you say it
>all seems to be working fine. I use X window pretty much all the time, and
>I've had no problem.

> Both errors do show up.  This is an often reported bug.  The fix
> includes a kernel patch for DRM, as well as a XFree86 patch for
> the DRI code.
> 
> The single unified patch got into 4.0.3-5 just in time, but
> unfortunately the kernel portion got applied to the kernel DRM
> code included in XFree86 instead of the kernel code in our kernel
> RPM.  This means that the actual r128 kernel module as released
> does not have the needed kernel side fix.
> 
> I just noticed this the other day after wondering why the heck I
> was still getting reports, and to make a long story short, our
> kernel now has the patch applied (internally), and will make it
> into rawhide shortly.  If there are any kernel errata released
> (most probably at some point), the errata kernel will also
> contain the fix.  If someone wants to manually patch up their own
> kernel to do it, you can obtain the r128 fixup patch from the
> XFree86 src.rpm, edit it and remove the non-kernel portion from
> it, then apply the remainder to the 2.4.x kernel source and
> rebuild.  I can't help out with this though, so just wait for our
> next kernel release if its too heavy to attempt.
> 
> With the kernel patch applied, r128 3D is rock solid on all my
> tests.
> 
> I decided to put together the following to make things a bit
> easier (hopefully) for those who feel like playing with it:
> 
> ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/patches/linux-r128-drm.patch.txt
> ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/patches/linux-r128-drm.patch.gz
> 
> Hope someone benefits from it.
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike A. Harris                  Shipping/mailing address:
> OS Systems Engineer             190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie,
> Red Hat Inc.                    Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3
> http://www.redhat.com           Phone: (705)949-2136
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Latest XFree86 test RPMS:      ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing

Regards,
        Jim H


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From: "Lovecraftesque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quick question: how to copy files *and* directories?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 06:33:13 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stan McCann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> 
>>         tar cf - . | ( cd /path/to/target/dir; tar xvf - )
>> 
>>                 Elf
>> 
>> 
>       Why the long command line using tar?  What's wrong with 'cp -r source
> destination'?  The destination doesn't even have to exist first as it
> will be created.

        The tar line preserves the time parameters of the original files; cp
doesn't.

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 7 With RCA (AT&T@Home) Cable Modem
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:04:11 -0500

Wouldnt You Like to Know wrote:
> 
> I recently added a Red Hat Linux partition to my Windows 98 2nd
> Edition P.C.   For Windows 98, I am using the AT&T @Home Cable Modem
> Service using an RCA digital / broadband cable modem.  I am also using
> a Netgear RT314 Router.
> 
> My NIC card is a SMC EZ Connect USB.
> 
> I have seen several somewhat condensed articles on getting AT&T@Home
> cable modems to run with Red Hat Linux, but nothing has been very
> comprehensive.  It also seems the configuration may be different based
> on the geography you are in.  I happen to be in the Chicagoland
> (western suburbs) area.
> 
> Has anybody seen or can point me to a document / article which
> describes in detail how to set a AT&T@Home Cable Modem with my Red Hat
> Linux 7 system ?  If so, please point me the way !!  What makes this
> worse is my Windows 98 modem is only Windows compatible and won't work
> on my Linux system.
> 
> Any thoughts / comments appreciated and thanks in advance.
> 
> My email address is:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Steve

AT&T has been using different modems and different network
cards in different areas around Chicago and at different times.
I was an early enrollee, and I have a Motorola Cable Modem
and some standard PCI NIC.   It works fine under RH Linux.

For your setup, you will need to use a version of Linux which
supports USB modems.  RH 7.1 with the 2.4 kernel should work,
but some later 2.2 kernels may also work.  There is a web page
somewhere which explains what to do, but I can't find it.
I think I found it originally by checking on USB for Linux.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ipchains + lpd help..
Date: 9 May 2001 16:48:21 -0500

Hello,

Just trying ipchains under Mandrake-7.1 (kernel 2.2-14). It seems to
work except for one problem. The lpd becomes non-functional (process
is there but won't send the request to remote printer). Message is:
Conenction to remote-host (with printer) is down! As soon as the
firewall is taken down the printing works again. What is the port
used by lpd to talk to remote lpd and vice versa? Any pinters?

- ishwar


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From: "Chris Divine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:47:06 -0700


"Scott Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In the past it was easy to read and write to Win98 from a Linux partition
> on a dual boot machine.  One could mount the windows partition and access
> it from Linux.  With win2k this seems to be much more difficult.  Any
> simple methods to do this?  Apparently any attempt at writing to the
> win2k file system is risky.  Any easy way to at least access the win2k
> files?

I've been reading and writing to my FAT32 win2k partition with no problems.
Haven't tried with any NTFS partitions, but I understand that is more risky
(and according to the kernel compile online help, NTFS write support is
limited to NT4 or earlier).



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From: "Scott Stembaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How come...
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:56:10 -0500


"Jerry Kreps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9dbdis$e1p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> John Thompson wrote:
>
> > kalasend at YAHOO dot COM wrote:
> >
> > > How come until today, Linux (or in general Unix) still does not have
the
> > > "undelete" feature?
> >
> > That's what backups are for.  In a multi-user system any
> > filesystem-level undelete function becomes even less reliable.
> >
>
>
> But, some distros, like SuSE, have a 'trash can'.  If you activate it and
> then delete a file it is really just moved to the trash can until you
> empty the trash or restore.  You can do the same thing yourself without
> a 'trash can'.  Just move a file to /tmp, or make your own directory
> called /trash.  When you are satisfied that you really meant to delete
> a file you can empty your /tmp or /trash dir.
>
>

This was how I handled it in the early 80s when there were still several
versions of DOS to choose from and PCs were way out of my budget.  I aliased
rm to mv the file to a /tmp/username/garbage dir and in the .logout I would
ls the dir and ask the user about cleanup issues.  Seemed simple enough.  I
still use that today on all of my personal boxes.

--scott



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From: "Chris Divine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Utility for parsing RPM database?
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:56:09 -0700

Last night I was working on updating about 50 RPMs on my RH7.1 system. I
found it tedious to do an "rpm -qa | grep xxx" for each one to see if the
version I already had installed was the same as or newer than the one I was
about to download. I found I could modify the looks of the outpur from the
rpm query and even pipe the output to a text file which I later imported
into a spreadsheet for sorting and printing (15 pages). However, I figure
someone has to have developed a utility that will stomp through my RPM
database, grab just the info I want (RPM name and version), sort it
alphabetically and display or print it in easy-to-read format.

Any ideas?




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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mozilla 0.9 and SSL
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 12:57:03 -0500

I just installed the latest Mozilla 0.9 from the tarball and
found it mostly satisfactory so far.  My one big problem with it
is that it does not seem to support SSL connections (mozilla 0.8x
worked fine with SSL).  Is this a known deficiency or am I
missing something in the setup or configuration?

-- 


-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Running from a RAM Disk
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 21:45:46 GMT

"Mondrain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> A little tight?  Goodness, you can put the enire LRP (Linux Router
>> Project) on a single floppy disk!

> Is there any study that discussed the ideal ammount of RAM for some
> applications? Some people say "the more, the better", some say "8MB
> is plenty". I want to do more than just routing: i.e. web, dns,
> mail, irc, and shell account. I doubt that a floppy is enough. But
> what is enough?

What precisely do you mean by "doing" web, DNS, mail, and irc?

If you set up LRP with IP masquerading (which would be a good idea),
then those services reside on the big, noisy box that's _not_ sitting
under your bed.  No need to have the router support services when
they're sitting on another box.

>> Now that I've thought it over, my offiical suggestion is: Just use
>> a disk.  Yes, disks can eventually go bad - but for goodness sake,
>> you're using DSL.  The disk is the least of your worries.

> This is not an issue of reliability. It's one of noise. I do not
> want to have to hear the spindle of that damned HDD whirring
> 24hrs. under my bed.  The best I came up with so far, is not to have
> an HDD.

Then you should start looking at LRP, tomsrtboot, LOAF, DLX, and
"busybox."

The first four items are Linux distributions that fit on a floppy.

Try them out before you decide what hardware you need; if you can run
a router nicely off a floppy, with 16MB of RAM [which ought to be
quite feasible], that demonstrates that you don't need a hard drive
and 512MB of RAM.

"Busybox" is a program that combines a whole bunch of utilities into
one program; it's used on "embedded" Linuxes to diminish the need for
libraries and extra binary programs.  It generally includes stuff like
df, dd, grep, gzip, init, kill, sed, tar, mount, and such.

The Busybox web site lists a number of "single-floppy-based"
distributions that may be worth looking at.


<LI><a href="http://www.linuxrouter.org/";>Linux Router Project</a>
<LI><a href="http://www.toms.net/rb/";>tomsrtbt home page</a>
<LI><a href="http://loaf.ecks.org/";>LOAF (Linux On A Floppy)</a>
<LI><a href="http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=13751";>LRP FAQ list</a>
<LI><a href="http://lrp.c0wz.com/";>Linux Router Project - lrp.c0wz.com</a>
<LI><a href="http://www.freesco.org/";>FREESCO - free replacement for commercial 
routers</a>
<LI><a href="http://embedded.linuxjournal.com/magazine/issue00/4335/";>Articles - 
Building Tiny Linux Systems with Busybox</a>
<LI><a href="http://busybox.lineo.com/";>BusyBox</a>
-- 
(reverse (concatenate 'string "gro.mca@" "enworbbc"))
http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/resume.html
Seen in dust on Lucent truck:
"Test dirt - do not remove."

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From: J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Utility for parsing RPM database?
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:52:39 -0700

Hello,

No programs that I know about, but it is a good idea. However this will 
output a sorted list that you can print.

rpm -qa | sort -o rpmlist.txt

Regards,
        Jim H


Chris Divine wrote:

> Last night I was working on updating about 50 RPMs on my RH7.1 system. I
> found it tedious to do an "rpm -qa | grep xxx" for each one to see if the
> version I already had installed was the same as or newer than the one I
> was about to download. I found I could modify the looks of the outpur from
> the rpm query and even pipe the output to a text file which I later
> imported into a spreadsheet for sorting and printing (15 pages). However,
> I figure someone has to have developed a utility that will stomp through
> my RPM database, grab just the info I want (RPM name and version), sort it
> alphabetically and display or print it in easy-to-read format.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Utility for parsing RPM database?
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:06:02 -0700

Chris Divine wrote:
> 
> Last night I was working on updating about 50 RPMs on my RH7.1 system. I
> found it tedious to do an "rpm -qa | grep xxx" for each one to see if the
> version I already had installed was the same as or newer than the one I was
> about to download. I found I could modify the looks of the outpur from the
> rpm query and even pipe the output to a text file which I later imported
> into a spreadsheet for sorting and printing (15 pages). However, I figure
> someone has to have developed a utility that will stomp through my RPM
> database, grab just the info I want (RPM name and version), sort it
> alphabetically and display or print it in easy-to-read format.
> 
> Any ideas?

You could fiddle with something like this script I occasionally
use to print when (all) RPM's were installed:

#!/bin/sh
# 10-18-99 useful but tedious by hand
/bin/rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}, installed
%{INSTALLTIME:date}\n'

$ when_rpm
august, installed Mon 03 Apr 2000 07:51:45 AM PDT
...

See the man page for RPM.
HTH. Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch     Berkeley CA USA    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.9 and SSL
Date: 9 May 2001 22:12:06 GMT

John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just installed the latest Mozilla 0.9 from the tarball and
> found it mostly satisfactory so far.  My one big problem with it
> is that it does not seem to support SSL connections (mozilla 0.8x
> worked fine with SSL).  Is this a known deficiency or am I
> missing something in the setup or configuration?

Well, as a data point, it Works For Me (TM), and I've found the SSL
in 0.9 to be far more reliable than that in 0.8.1.  If it matters,
I don't use the installer, I just grab the tarball and extract
the whole mess out of there.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University

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From: "/dev/coffee \(Mark\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:10:56 +1000

http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/rh71-errata-bugfixes.html
"Leonard Evens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Leonard Evens wrote:
> >
> > Continuing with a previously reported problem, I can't get
> > the mouse to work in RH7.1 installed on a Winbook XL.  If
> > gpm runs, everything freezes, including the keyboard, as soon
> > as I login.   I can't get the mouse in X to work.   This same machine
> > worked fine in every version of RedHat up to and including RH7.0.
> >
> > I assume there is some hardware incompatibility with the current driver.
> >
> > I guess it is remotely possible there is something wrong with
> > the CD (from a fresh RedHat boxed package).
> >
> > Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> > Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
>
> Let me add some more.  I plugged my mouse into a serial adapter
> and plugged it into the serial port.  I still have the problem
> that gpm hangs the machine, but if I disable it, then I can
> configure X after using mouseconfig to set the mouse to a
> generic 3 button serial mouse.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208



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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:16:00 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Utility for parsing RPM database?

Chris Divine wrote:
> 
> Last night I was working on updating about 50 RPMs on my RH7.1 system. I
> found it tedious to do an "rpm -qa | grep xxx" for each one to see if the
> version I already had installed was the same as or newer than the one I was
> about to download. I found I could modify the looks of the outpur from the
> rpm query and even pipe the output to a text file which I later imported
> into a spreadsheet for sorting and printing (15 pages). However, I figure
> someone has to have developed a utility that will stomp through my RPM
> database, grab just the info I want (RPM name and version), sort it
> alphabetically and display or print it in easy-to-read format.
> 
> Any ideas?

1. Generate a file to read from, running it from cron wouldn't be a bad
idea.

rpm -qa > srpm.db 

2. This would do basic search, the nice/easy-to-read output has to be
done by yourself, or someone other, I don't need it.

read s; awk -v s=$s '{if ($1 ~ s) print $0 }' srpm.db | sort 

Good luck

Michael Heiming

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From: "S. Z. Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips?
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:22:34 +1000

Hi, All:

Initially default four desktops are enough for me and my work. But when
I start the real work and come into the real world. 8 desktops seems
appropriate. Could any one tell me how to add more desktops on KDE?

Cheers,

Marshall.


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From: Adriel Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Linux market share by distribution
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 22:30:07 -0000

RH "had" like 75% of the market a while ago. . but I think that mandrake is
really playing the game of catch up quickly.

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: Darren Wyn Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Archiving a NG
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:34:04 +0100

wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<9db4b3$roo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in alt.os.linux :

>I want to archive a certain newsgroup (all articles matching certain 
>criteria). What is the easiest way of doing it? BTW, I really don't want to 
>bother with running a local news server.

Try http://www.mhonarc.org/

-- 
Darren Wyn Rees             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ASK your ISP to ADD the NEW england.* Newsgroups
http://www.england.news-admin.org/accessfaq.html

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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Viewing Win2k from Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 22:38:41 GMT

"Scott Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In the past it was easy to read and write to Win98 from a Linux partition
>on a dual boot machine.  One could mount the windows partition and access
>it from Linux.  With win2k this seems to be much more difficult.  Any
>simple methods to do this?  Apparently any attempt at writing to the
>win2k file system is risky.  Any easy way to at least access the win2k
>files?

Compile your kernel with NTFS support. Like you say, reading is one
thing, but writing is much more hazardous.

An alternative would be to use FAT32 on your win2k partitions. You
loose the security and robustness of NTFS of course, but you can then
read & write to the partitions from Linux. Personally, I use NTFS for
my Win2k system partition, and then keep all of my data in a FAT32
partition that can be accessed from both OSes.

Gareth


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From: A. Dueselder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips?
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:41:12 +0200

S. Z. Zhou wrote:

> Hi, All:
> 
> Initially default four desktops are enough for me and my work. But when
> I start the real work and come into the real world. 8 desktops seems
> appropriate. Could any one tell me how to add more desktops on KDE?

Of course,
go to your Control Center which you will find by clicking at the "Start 
Application" button (the K)! Under Look&Feel you will find a tab called 
"Number of Desktops" which should serve you well... ;)

Good luck,
              Arne

-- 
The answer is 42!

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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:44:13 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to add more desktops on KDE? Tips?

"S. Z. Zhou" wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> Initially default four desktops are enough for me and my work. But when
> I start the real work and come into the real world. 8 desktops seems
> appropriate. Could any one tell me how to add more desktops on KDE?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marshall.

KDE Control Center - Panel Settings

Please rtfm (read the fine manual) -> Configuring Virtual Desktops

Michael Heiming

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From: Youngert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Deja News Reader Software
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 22:35:42 GMT

Hi,

Is there a news reader software that can read and post on the dejanews.com?

TIA.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Utility for parsing RPM database?
Date: 9 May 2001 22:50:40 GMT

In <9dcatb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Chris Divine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

]Last night I was working on updating about 50 RPMs on my RH7.1 system. I
]found it tedious to do an "rpm -qa | grep xxx" for each one to see if the
]version I already had installed was the same as or newer than the one I was
]about to download. I found I could modify the looks of the outpur from the

Well, rpm -Fvh will do all that for you. It takes the current rpm that
youare using
rpm -Fvh your-package.rpm
and see if the version currently on your system is older than this, and
if it is it replaces it. If it is not older or if it does not exist on
your system, it does not replace or install it.





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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 01:04:29 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: load average

David Efflandt wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 09 May 2001 17:00:44 GMT, Tom Romeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I remember correctly, it is the average number of proccesses
> > waiting in run queue (i.e, waiting to get CPU time). The numbers
> > show the average for 1, 5, and fifteen minutes. The higher the
> > numbers, the more loaded you system is.
> >
> > Tom Romeo
> 
> Typically for a single processor machine you should not see it go over
> 1.00 for any period of time, but it can comfortable run at 1.00 if
> background processes are set for lower priority (man nice).  For example
> when I run SETI@home, it runs load ave 1.00 consuming 100% of available
> cpu time, but it runs nice 19 (lowest priority) so I don't even notice it.
> 
> If you see it beyond your number of cpu's and continuously rising, you
> probably have a broken process in a race condition which can eventually
> choke your box.  I have seen that when testing a USB CD-RW which is not
> quite supported and the runaway process does not respond to kill (time to
> reboot).
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >
> > On 5/9/01, 12:04:01 PM, "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote regarding load average:
> >
> >
> >> how to interpret the load average value in top?! thank you.
> 
> --
> David Efflandt  (Reply-To is valid)  http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/

Hello,

this should be true for some home desktop machine, which doesn't really
do anything,
like mine, running seti@home -nice 19 and reading news....

Running as server, it's possible to see much higher load,
I.e. on some mail server running virus scanning sw, to protect the
clients/users.

The machine should just not swap to disc and it will run without any
problems,
even with loadaverage > 50.

Michael Heiming

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