Linux-Misc Digest #830, Volume #18 Sat, 30 Jan 99 22:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: (Symbolic) Links Again (Alexander Viro)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: Attaching IOMEGA Zip drive after boot? (Neil Zanella)
[Q] "More" problem (root)
Re: Kernel numbering schemes (Villy Kruse)
Re: Developing X Windows Apps for Linux (David M. Cook)
Linux OS Imaging ("Charles Wilkins")
Access Novell File Servers under RH Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Porting WinNT applications to Linux (Gary Momarison)
Re: linux max RAM is 1GB? ("Michael D. Schleif")
Re: Linux and the K6-2, any problems? (Bruce Stephens)
Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect (Richard Steiner)
Re: How to check free disk space available (Yan Seiner)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (Neil Zanella)
Network time problem revisited... (John Thompson)
Re: Netscape and RPM (Len Cuff)
Test - Please Ignore ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: installing win95 on slave disk (Neil Zanella)
Re: 2.2.0 and no sound / esstype-2.2.0.diff patch (Kent Anderson)
StarOffice Download ("Cleavage")
Re: Apache really SIMPLE question ("Wael Sedky")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (John Hasler)
Re: configuring mailx or pine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Notebook buy without Windooze? (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 30 Jan 1999 00:05:41 -0800
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>>>>> "Chris" == Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> Michael Powe wrote: [SNIP]
>> >>>>> "Chris" == Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
Chris> I'm sorry but the only reason asia has the technology is
Chris> because we sent it over there because labor was
Chris> cheaper. And yes it did help modern computing leap
>> Hmm, well, improvements in manufacturing technology were made
>> over there as well as over here.
>> The whole argument is stupid, anyway. A lot of Americans are
>> so weak-minded that they can't stand the thought of being "just
>> folks." Everywhere I go, some chest-thumping moron is bound to
>> be declaring "America is the greatest country in the world."
Chris> [SNIP] I'm not a "chest-thumping moron" as you state in
Chris> your generalization. And you stated it
Chris> correctly. "Improvements" Yes that's correct. But without
Chris> the US sending the technology in the first place I don't
Chris> think they would be as far ahead in manufacturing as they
Chris> are. I guess you blinded yourself when all the flak about
I think you don't realize how much of the manufacturing started over
there.
Chris> US companys using sweathouses in asian countrys to
Chris> manufacture there products hit the news. And what is wrong
Chris> with me saying I live in the best country in the world?
Chris> Should I say the US sucks but I'll stay here and make
Chris> money. Are you enjoying posting messages on an American
Chris> server? Or do you think you should stop because we are
Chris> just a bunch of morons. And why would you want to post a
Chris> message on a server that is run by morons? Chris
You might just say, "comparisons about whose country is greatest are
stupid and meaningless." I'd rather read an English novel, use an
internationally-developed operating system on my computer, drink
French wine (at least, when I used to drink wine, I did), eat Mexican,
Chinese, or Vietnamese food, go to a Japanese art exhibit.
Sorry, the literature is not as good, the wine is not as good, the
food is not as good, the art is not as good -- so how can it be the
"greatest" country in the world?
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 30 Jan 1999 00:12:49 -0800
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>>>>> "david" == david perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Doh! Computers were invented in England. Get it? If you
>> don't, get a library card and do some reading. You <can> read
>> something more complicated than a newsgroup, can't you?
david> Saying that computers were invented in England is like
david> saying Henry Ford invented the automobile. No one person
david> INVENTED the computer. Babbage was instrumental in the
No, that's not accurate. For one thing, Ford did not invent the
automobile, they were around long before he came along.
david> development of the computer, but was John von Neumann a
david> lesser influence? How about Thomas Edison? Lee de Forest?
david> Texas Instruments? Face it...a computer is a collection of
david> many different technologies. No single person can be
The point is, the conceptualization that led to the building of the
first computers was done in England. And the English continued to
work in the theoretical field, though they later lagged in the
technological field.
mp
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#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links Again
Date: 30 Jan 1999 04:13:12 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Naive users tend to call those things that you see with ls -C files. I see
>that ls --help calls them entries. It would be somewhat cryptic to
>tell users to unlink their entries with rm, even though it is perhaps
>perfectly correct nomenclature. Even the ls manpage refers to the entries
>as files.
s/entries/references/. Or just "names".
>I will admit, that trying to explain the Unix filesystem concepts using
>the word file to mean both the directory entry and the sequence(s) of octets
>on the disk pointed to by an inode is confusing.
It's even worse. You have (a) several (>=0) references; (b) inode (*real*
file); (c) for some of them - data blocks containing octets.
>>is only one such reference. Symlink is not a reference to the file - it's
>>a *different* file containing a string. When you are trying to open it/
>
>If I recall, and interpret the source correctly (debatable -- the structures
>have several levels), the symlink is stored in the inode (or indirect inodes
>if the entry exceeds 59 characters?) (in the ext2_inode_info structure in
>the i_data member).
Meaning (b). If the string is short enough ext2 will put it
in place normally used by pointers to data blocks. Otherwise it will
allocate block(s) (up to 4096 bytes) as it would do for regular files and
directories. They still are valid files. File==inode. Storage methods may
vary, depending on the type of file. E.g. named pipes and devices are
files but have no associated data blocks in filesystem.
>Experiments with df and df -i tend to bear this out, except that to the
>maximum of 255 or so characters allowed for a file name, the symlink
>only takes one inode.
See above. Ext2 optimizes the case of relatively short links.
Symlink *always* takes exactly one inode. Long symlinks also have associated
data block(s).
>>>easier to deal with. BTW, can you hard link /dev/<device>?
>> Sure you can.
>Interesting.
The *only* problem may be in braindead software that uses something
a-la empty file with name /tmp/foo.my.moronic.way.to.lock.devices as lock
for /dev/foo. *That* will break. Badly. As it deserves. It will break on
*many* other things, so...
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 30 Jan 1999 00:19:17 -0800
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>>>>> "Melancon" == Melancon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Melancon> Frank Sweetser wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> > You pledge > : allegiance to the flag at *school* in the USA
>> AFAIK. > > Yup. I think they do.
>>
>> yup, we do.
Melancon> I don't know what school you went to, or how old you
Melancon> are, but that silly pledge dissappeared back in the 50's
Melancon> or 60's...
We were still saying the pledge around 1962 ... I remember a kid
coming into our school when I was in 6th grade; his religion forbade
him to pledge the flag. He got beaten up by other kids on the
playground several times for being a "traitor." Finally, his parents
took him out of the school. Ah, the good ol' USA -- "land of the free
..."
mp
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8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Attaching IOMEGA Zip drive after boot?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:06:07 -0330
Get the 250MB model: IMHO it's the best one out there.
Get the imm driver (version 0.18). It does not come with the kernel.
Run kernel 2.0.36 and the imm driver is at http://www.torque.net/~campbell/
As root...
compile scsi support and scsi disk support into the kernel [y].
# cd /tmp
# wget http://www.torque.net/~campbell/blah-blah-blah/imm-0.18.tar.gz
# tar zxvf imm-0.18.tar.gz
# cd imm*
# make
# mkdir -p /lib/modules/<your-kernel-version-here>/scsi/
# cp imm.o /lib/modules/<your-kernel-version-here>/scsi/imm.o
# insmod imm
# mke2fs /dev/sda4
# mkdir -p /mnt/zip
# mount -t etx2 /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip
It should all be clear now.
Don't forget to read the Kernel-HOWTO as well.
On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Mircea wrote:
> See the Zip-mini FAQ. If you don't have it, you can get it from
> www.njtcom.com/dansie/zip-drive.html
>
> MST
>
>
> Anders Nilsson wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking of getting an external Zip drive (probably the parallel
> > port model) and I would like to be able to attach it at any time after
> > booting up. Meaning I would like not having to power down and reboot
> > every time to attach or detach the Zip drive. Is this possible with
> > Linux (RedHat) and should I get any special model of the Zip drive to be
> > able to do this?
> >
> > There is a new 250MB model (I heard). Any reason I shouldn't get that
> > one?
> >
> > /Anders
>
>
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] "More" problem
Date: 30 Jan 1999 11:13:49 GMT
Hello.
I got some peculiar problem.
After I upgraded the util-linux to the 2.9h version,
when I try using the "more" program, and search some string,
what I type is changed to ooo, GGG, or something like that.
Can anyone tell me why this happens and how to solve it?
Thank you.
--
=================================================================
JongAm Park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What will you be in 30 years?
=================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Kernel numbering schemes
Date: 30 Jan 1999 12:32:24 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Kernels are (generally) numbered using the scheme a.b.cc where:
>a is the major version number
>b is the minor version number
>cc is the patch level
>Whether a and cc are even or odd is irrelevant. If b is odd, you are
>dealing with a "development" kernel - possibly unstable. If b is even,
>you have a "stable" kernel - less likely to be unstable.
If you comapre to comercial unix suppliesrs like Solaris or SCO the even
numbered releases are the version they ship and the odd numbered versions
are the versions they work on, but never ship.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Developing X Windows Apps for Linux
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:16:45 GMT
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:57:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>3) Which C++ GUI toolkit do I use: Amulet, Qt, Cde, OSF/Motif, Powerbuilder,
>or V toolkit?
See http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7184/guitool.html
Dave Cook
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From: "Charles Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Linux OS Imaging
Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:33:00 GMT
I am looking for solutions that allow easy transfer and archiving of the
linux OS.
Is there a utility that allows copying or archiving/imaging of the linux
native and linux swap partitions for the purpose of upgrading harddisk
sizes?
Thanks to all who read this :)
Feel free to post here or e-mail me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Access Novell File Servers under RH Linux
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:17:40 GMT
I'm attempint to get access to my novell network (file and print servers)
under RedHat linux and running into some problems. I tried running the
command: ncpmount -S linc_svr -U jreed linc To mount the remote server,
linc_svr, onto the linc directory in my user directory and ran into two
problems. 1) When I try to run ncpmount as my user account I get: ncpmount
must be installed suid root Which annoys me. Each use should be able to
mount file servers to their local directory if they want to. What do I need
to change to allow that? 2) When I do log in as root and run the same command
I get: ncpmount: No primary IPX interface found when trying to find LINC_SVR
I'm pretty darn sure that I installed IPX when I did the linux install. So
what could be causing this?
-Suggestions?
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Porting WinNT applications to Linux
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:46:12 -0800
Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Has anyone taken an application written in C++ (Builder perhaps) and
> ported to the Linux operating system with a GUI? If so, what were the
> biggest problems you had doing this, and would you offer any
> suggestions?
>
> Thank you for any helpful information.
Search for string "porting" in http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/sw-dev.html
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Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: linux max RAM is 1GB?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:21:51 -0600
Using Linux with (more than) 1GB of RAM ==>
http://humbolt.geo.uu.nl/Linux-MM/more_than_1GB.html
Way, way cool, man }:-�
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888.250.3987
"Dare to fix things before they break . . . "
"Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we
think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . "
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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and the K6-2, any problems?
Date: 30 Jan 1999 11:41:34 +0000
"Richard Latimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bruce Stephens wrote in message ...
> >I've been unable to get Linux to power off the machine. That's the
> >BIOS, and lack of support for it, however.
>
> Do you mean you can't enable APM (Advanced Power Management) in the
> kernel because your BIOS doesn't support it? That seems odd if you
> have a K6 processor.
No, I mean I can enable it, and can select "Poweroff on Halt", but
then I get an oops when it tries to poweroff. This isn't just me, if
you do a quick dejanews search (as I did originally), you'll find a
number of other people saying the same: poweroff doesn't seem to work
on VIA MVP3 based Super-7 motherboards.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:07:24 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying:
>I've been browsing around trying to decide which of the "big three" office
>application suites to go with and install on my system (StarOffice,
>Applixware, or WordPerfect). However, I haven't been able to find much
>information on the ability of ANY of these programs to import, convert, or
>work with Microsoft Office documents.
It seems to be very difficult for third parties to create effective
import/export filters for Word, which makes it very difficult at times
when one's coworkers use such documents all the time.
I've imported Word 95 documents just fine in StarOffice, but those were
relatively simply documents which used tables and normal paragraphs,
but I have no idea how well it handles other document formats.
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-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Gravity: Not just a good idea, it's the law
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to check free disk space available
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 05:54:25 -0500
Two of the more arcane UNIX commands : df for disk free will give you a
summary, while du will give you directory by directory listing.
Yan
Juan Riera wrote:
> Silly newbie question :
> How can I see free disk space available across all my Linux partitions?
> (someting as chkdsk collecting info from all disks)
> Thanks,
> Juan
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:52:43 -0330
On 23 Jan 1999, Jim Richardson wrote:
> >In a normal full screen editor you can get to the end of
> >the line with a single control key. Part of the problem with
> >vi is that the escape character is usually far away from
> >home position on the keyboard. I'd say it takes 3 times
> >as much time to do these steps in vi.
> >
>
> how is esc A any slower than ctrl whatever ?
Because ESC is out of the way. It would be nice if we could map
the ms-windows symbol that comes with 104-keyboards to ESC.
Then vi would be quicker.
Linux does not seem to recognize the MSwin key.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Network time problem revisited...
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:18:33 -0500
I have found a time server I can run on my OS/2 machine
(rhino_house) that linux can talk to. This is good. I am
seeing some unusual behavior when I try rdate to synchronize
the clock, though. Specifically, rdate sees the time as
exectly one hour later than the time server reports.
Observe:
[john@starfleet john]$ telnet rhino_house 13
Trying 192.168.0.1...
Connected to rhino_house.
Escape character is '^]'.
Sat Jan 30 00:16:04 1999
Connection closed by foreign host.
[john@starfleet john]$ rdate rhino_house
[rhino_house] Sat Jan 30 01:16:12 1999
Why is this and what can I do about it?
Thanks...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape and RPM
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:05:31 +0000
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>
>> I've just tried to download an RPM file which I need from www.suse.com
>> for Linux. Problem is that Netscape thinks it's a RealPlayer file and
>> insists on opening Realplayer every time. I just want to save the file
>> to disk but how ??
>> Cheers,
>> Len
>
>hi,
>
>right mouse click on the link,
>save file as .......
>
>cumarc
>
Thanks to all who replied on this one. Cracked it now and have the
files.
Cheers,
Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test - Please Ignore
Date: 30 Jan 1999 17:15:23 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Testing please ignore .....
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William R. Mattil | Fred Astaire wasn't so great.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Ginger had to do it all backwards
(972) 399-4106 | and... in high heels.
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.windows95,alt.windows95,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installing win95 on slave disk
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:55:26 -0330
On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Wowix wrote:
> sad to tell u ...theres no way..WIndoze shut will want to install in the primary
> partition
How stupid. What if one wanted to run win95 and 98 then?
What do they put the DOS fdisk utility there for then?
I guess it's there for us.
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From: Kent Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.0 and no sound / esstype-2.2.0.diff patch
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:55:12 -0700
Dr. Greanthumb wrote:
> Because i get no sound with 2.2.0 (real final version, not pre9;-) i used
> the ess...-patch with "patch -p1 ..." but i still get no sound. I tried to
> compile the sound module into the kernel, but compilation stopped, compiling
> as a module did work, but there�s no sound on my SB 16 (ISA). Did i use a
> wrong syntax with the patch command ?
Even after recompiling sound as a module, I still can't get the thing to work.
Trying to load the sb.o module complains that I/O port 220 (0xDC) is already in
use. Looking at /proc/ioports, dma2 has ports 192 - 223. Does anybody at all
know why this is? Does Windows (sorry) do something differently to free up
port 220 for sound?
What can be done to free up the ports (the sb modules needs 16 ports starting
at 220).
While true midnight hackers may not care about sound, those of us who simply
use Linux to accomplish another (maybe not so altruistic) task would really
love to hear a CD or something.
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From: "Cleavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: StarOffice Download
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:39:03 +1300
Hi,
Anyone know of a site which has staroffice in smaller packages. Or a place
which has staroffice on cd cheap.
TIA,
Clive
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Apache really SIMPLE question
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:45:40 -0800
>You're going to have to compile Apache from source
>(in the Slackware /source dir or www.apache.com) and
>specfy the path you want with the
>./configure --prefix=PREFIX flag. See the install doc's
>for info. Use pkgtool to un-install the SLack pkg.
>
>Simple... right?
Yeah, I guess the kind of simplicity that would make me hate myself for ever
thinking to fix the problem.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:40:13 GMT
Jeff Smith writes:
> Bill is a great businessman, or how could he have sold us all SHIT for
> years. Better yet, why did we buy it.
Not all of us did.
> Linux is finally taking off...who knows, with corp. backing ( IBM, Compaq
> and the like) and "No one Person" responsible for it, it could be the
> only OS to use...
I certainly hope not. I use Linux exclusively now, and I'm a Debian
developer, but I don't want to see Linux become the only OS. I want to see
the BSD's do well, I look forward to trying the Hurd as soon as Debian
GNU/Hurd comes out on CD, and I hope other OS's appear. Competition is
good.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: configuring mailx or pine
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:22:42 -0600
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Wowix wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I can get mail from my ISP using netscape (on my redhat 5.1 box) but how
> > do I configure my system to use mailx or pine for my ISP mail?
> > Thanks,
>
> You need a program to get your email from your ISP...which I recommend...
> fetchmail.. Then fetchmail will move it to your local mailbox..then after
> that use pine to read your e-mail.......
Ok, I am using fetchmail, but it dumps the mail into root on my local
machine,
instead of sending it to the users mail file. How do I fix?
Thanks,
--
Mike Cabaniss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Sea Internet Services - Web Hosting powered by Linux
http://www.digitalsea.net
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Wowix wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<P>> I can get mail from my ISP using netscape (on my redhat 5.1 box) but
how
<BR>> do I configure my system to use mailx or pine for my ISP mail?
<BR>> Thanks,
<P>You need a program to get your email from your ISP...which I recommend...
<BR>fetchmail.. Then fetchmail will move it to your local mailbox..then
after
<BR>that use pine to read your e-mail.......</BLOCKQUOTE>
Ok, I am using fetchmail, but it dumps the mail into root on my local machine,
<BR>instead of sending it to the users mail file. How do I fix?
<BR>Thanks,
<PRE>--
Mike Cabaniss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Sea Internet Services - Web Hosting powered by Linux
<A HREF="http://www.digitalsea.net">http://www.digitalsea.net</A></PRE>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Humphries-Dolnick)
Subject: Re: Notebook buy without Windooze?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:29:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthias Kattanek
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[SNIP]
> But where does this leave the notebook?
> Does somebody know place where to buy notbooks without windooze?
>
How about Linux Hardware Solutions? They have notebook solutions, and as
their home page says "Best of all, these systems have absolutely no
Microsoft Tax!"
http://www.linux-hw.com/
--
--
Michael Humphries-Dolnick
"If opinions are expressed in this communication,
those opinions may not represent those of
my employer."
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