Linux-Misc Digest #830, Volume #27               Fri, 11 May 01 12:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux in college & high school (Robert W. Curry)
  Re: latex -> PDF. How to do it properly? (Bob Tennent)
  Re: No itoa() in Linux? ("Stefan Viljoen")
  Re: Freezes druing starting up (Teke Tu)
  where has the imici been installed? (Teke Tu)
  Re: Triple boot (is it possible?) (Jonathan Lundstrom)
  Re: Run SCO apps on Linux ("������ �������")
  Re: Good web based mail server? ("������ �������")
  Re: Mirroring IDE drives under Linux? ("������ �������")
  Re: No itoa() in Linux? ("bowman")
  Re: No itoa() in Linux? (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Make prompt blink in KDE (Chad Lemmen)
  disappearing hard disk space ("Sudhakar R.")
  Re: Good web based mail server? ("Charles Price")
  Re: disappearing hard disk space (Lew Pitcher)
  A telnet daemon problem (Kevin Liu)
  Re: Free bugtracking system (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: load average (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Ximian Gnome changed Login manager despite telling it not to ("Robert Wiegand")
  Re: GNOME RPMs (steve)
  Nautilus crash? (ximian gnome 1.4) (Alan Hoyle)
  Re: What is sendmail? (Tuomas Airaksinen)
  Re: disappearing hard disk space ("Sudhakar R.")
  Automatic Login to Console ("Peter Hollenbeck")
  printtool ("Kenny@BUI")
  Re: Thai fonts and Thai keyboard layout under linux/kde2 (A. Dueselder)
  Re: chown to another user (give a file away). (SammyTheSnake)

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From: Robert W. Curry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:27:59 -0400

Christopher Corbell wrote:

> I'm looking for leads to information, statistics, or just
> individual testimonials about the use of Linux in educational
> settings, particularly in high school, community college,
> university, and grad school settings.  Does anyone out there
> know of any general sources of information on the use of
> Linux in these settings?  I would especially be interested
> in the use of Linux in math & science education.  Also, I'd
> like to know about any advocacy groups, PC 'salvage' groups
> or similar organizations that are active in getting Linux
> used in schools.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> - Christopher
> 


You might check out the Simple End User Linux group at:
http://www.seul.org


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: latex -> PDF. How to do it properly?
Date: 11 May 2001 12:14:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 11 May 2001 12:00:16 GMT, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
 >
 >6.5 works great.  I've had some issues with 7.0, but I think it may be
 >an install thing (I went from the RPMs) rather than anything wrong with
 >that version.

There is a bug in gs-7.0 that causes gsftopk to crash.  It's been reported
and a fix is being tested.

Bob T.


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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No itoa() in Linux?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:30:55 +0200
Reply-To: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 10 May 2001 17:23:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 10 May 2001 19:20:49 +0200, "Stefan Viljoen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hi!
> >>
> >>I am using Redhat 6.0 - there seems to be not itoa() in Linux? I am
saying
> >>this as DJGPP (also based on GCC) supports the itoa() func in stdlib?
> >
> >Is there a reason why sprintf() wouldn't satisfy you?
> >Is there a reason why you couldn't write an itoa() implementation that
suits
> >your needs (I could, and have posted it and variations to the newsgroups
in
> >response to these sort of threads every once and a while).
>
> In case you missed it, here's an itoa() implementation that I posted a
couple of
> weeks ago...

Thanks!

Stefan



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From: Teke Tu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Freezes druing starting up
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:30:05 -0000

thank you very much for your help. 
dbianchi wrote:
> 
> 
> > {Configuring Kernel Parameter  [OK]).
> 
> That part is done in /etc/rc.sysinit, it configure some parameter
> about IP, set the system time and other things...
> 
> Try boot with a boot disk, mount your root partition and look
> into /var/log/messages if there are problems reported.
> 
> Davide


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From: Teke Tu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where has the imici been installed?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:30:05 -0000

Hi, 
I am a Linux Newbie, I have just installed the imici using root. 
but now I can't find where has the package been installed? and how do I run
this program? 

Thank you very much for your help. thank you

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From: Jonathan Lundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Triple boot (is it possible?)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:30:06 -0000

Thanks everyone for your help.  Just for the record, I ended up using Lilo 
to manage my OSes.  I really appreciate all the helpful people that 
frequent these boards.

Once again, thanks.

Rod Smith wrote:
> 
> [Posted and mailed]
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jonathan Lundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If possible, I'd like to triple-boot Linux, Windows 98, and Windows 
2000.  
> > I have one 20GB hard drive.  Can this be done?
> 
> Yes, it's possible. The biggest caveat to getting it started is simply
> installing all the OSs in a way that'll let them all boot. It's probably
> best to install Win98, then Win2K, then Linux. I recommend putting Win98
> and Win2K each on its own primary partition. That way, they won't be
> sharing any files on C: (each will have its own partition that it calls
> C:). Doing it this way may require you use a third-party boot loader
> (LILO should be able to do the trick, but if you use it, you'll have to
> wait until you install Linux to get it booting any arbitrary OS.)
> 
> There are several HOWTOs on Linux-and-whatever dual-boot configurations.
> I don't recall any on triple-boot setups, but there might be one that
> I'm forgetting or that's new. Check http://www.linuxdoc.org for more
> details. For MUCH more information, check my book, _The Multiboot
> Configuration Handbook_ (http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/).
> 
> -- 
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration


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From: "������ �������" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Run SCO apps on Linux
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:35:18 +0400

steve wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paolo):
> >|  Hi.
> >|
> >|  Forgive a newbie question.
> >|
> >|  Is it possible to execute SCO binary applications on Linux systems ?
> >|  Can anyone give me some pointer to related information ?
> 
> Calderasytems.com they are finalizing their purchase of SCO, with the
> intention of having Linux run SCO apps.
You can also use free iBCS - Intel Binary Compatibility Specification
Module.
> 
> --
> Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
> Powered by GNU/Linux
>   1:55am  up 1 day,  3:04, 10 users,  load average: 0.15, 0.16, 0.25
-- 
Regards,              -o)  | Q: What does it say on the bottom of Coke
Sergey Smirnov         /\  | cans in North Dakota? A: Open other end. 
                      _\_v |  
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From: "������ �������" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Good web based mail server?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:38:43 +0400

AtDot, dmweb
You can find its on http://freshmeat.net
Monte Milanuk wrote:
> 
> One I've heard good things about is NeoMail... sorry, I don't have a URL
> handy.
> 
> Monte
> 
> Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm running RH7.1 amd am looking for a good Web based mail-server app.
> > Any favorites or suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jeff
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Sergey Smirnov         /\  | William Shakespeare, "Henry VI" 
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From: "������ �������" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mirroring IDE drives under Linux?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:42:59 +0400

Kernal 2.4.x has raid support.
See kernel config ("Multi-device support (RAID and LVM)")
Michael B wrote:
> 
> Has anyone successfully (And how stabile is it!), mirrored IDE HD under
> Linux? (Debian).
> 
> I've had a quick look at Yoke - Are there any alternatives ?
> 
> Regards,
> MB
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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No itoa() in Linux?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:52:23 -0600


"Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9dgnhh$52f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In case you missed it, here's an itoa() implementation that I posted a
> couple of
> > weeks ago...
>
> Thanks!

As DJ Delorie mentioned on the djgpp ng, djgpp has many non ANSI, non POSIX
functions that have evolved from the DOS platform. You'll be much happier in
the long run if you stick to ANSI/POSIX calls. Both the djgpp info pages and
Linux man pages will point out what is standard, and what is not. I'm not a
language purist, but I've had to kludge up too many fixes for common, but
not ANSI/POSIX calls, like getopt, etc.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: No itoa() in Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:59:21 GMT

On Fri, 11 May 2001 07:52:23 -0600, "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>"Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:9dgnhh$52f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > In case you missed it, here's an itoa() implementation that I posted a
>> couple of
>> > weeks ago...
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>As DJ Delorie mentioned on the djgpp ng, djgpp has many non ANSI, non POSIX
>functions that have evolved from the DOS platform. You'll be much happier in
>the long run if you stick to ANSI/POSIX calls. Both the djgpp info pages and
>Linux man pages will point out what is standard, and what is not. I'm not a
>language purist, but I've had to kludge up too many fixes for common, but
>not ANSI/POSIX calls, like getopt, etc.

Agreed.

But, if you _must_ use one of those "common but not ANSI/POSIX calls",
be sure that you have the unencumbered source code available (in a
portable language) so that you port the function when you port the
application.  itoa() is one of those functions that's _so easy_ to
provide source code for. <g>



Lew Pitcher, Information Technology Consultant, Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: Chad Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Make prompt blink in KDE
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:59:41 -0000

Stephen Rank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [ ... ]
>> 
>> xterm: bad command line option "-bc"
>> 
>> Do I have an old version of xterm or something? 

> Hmmm... Perhaps you do; I've got the ``XFree86 4.0.1h(149)'' version,
> which has this option.

> Stephen

Caldera eDesktop 2.4 ships with XFree86 3.3.6.  I guess thats probally 
why I don't have the blink option for xterm.  I'll upgrade to 4.0.2.


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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: disappearing hard disk space
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:28:43 -0400

I've noticed that everytime I login to my RH 7.0 system a good chunk of
hard disk space is used up (usually around 0.15 MB) everytime. this space
is not released again. so my / partition is close to running out of
space(6MB free now!!)

/home is mounted on a different partition...so i know that is not the
problem. can some1 help me figure out what's going on here before my
system crashes.

thanx. any help will be highly appreciated.
-sud


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From: "Charles Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Good web based mail server?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:41:51 +0100

Me too, I'm running the same... Qmail's currently handling 50+ virtual
domains on our servers without quibble.

--
Charles Price
Linux Systems Administrator
Five Lamps Group PLC


Brian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9cv3ej$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm running RH7.1 amd am looking for a good Web based mail-server app.
> > Any favorites or suggestions?
>
> I implemented QMail with a web based administration front end and a web
> based mail client at a company I used to work at.  Take a look at
> http://inter7.com/qmail/ for more info.  If I remember correctly, I used:
>
> qmail
> vpopmail
> qmailadmin
> sqwebmail
>
> This was time I ever used Linux for "real work", and it took me a couple
of
> weeks to get it all running the way I wanted, but once I had it set up it
> worked like a charm.
>
> --
> Best wishes,
>
> Brian Schwarz
>
> _________________________________
> The opinions expressed here are my own, and
> do not reflect those of any of my employers,
> past, present, or future
> _________________________________
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: disappearing hard disk space
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:43:22 GMT

On Fri, 11 May 2001 10:28:43 -0400, "Sudhakar R."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I've noticed that everytime I login to my RH 7.0 system a good chunk of
>hard disk space is used up (usually around 0.15 MB) everytime. this space
>is not released again. so my / partition is close to running out of
>space(6MB free now!!)
>
>/home is mounted on a different partition...so i know that is not the
>problem. can some1 help me figure out what's going on here before my
>system crashes.

Have you recycled your log files? Take a look in /var/logs and see
what syslog, messages, debug, etc. have in them.

Have you cleaned out your /tmp directory lately?

>thanx. any help will be highly appreciated.
>-sud
>


Lew Pitcher, Information Technology Consultant, Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: Kevin Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A telnet daemon problem
Date: 11 May 2001 14:45:10 GMT

I'm running a small linux in kernel 2.4.2 and /dev have pty0~3, ttyp0~3, when I test 
the system with chroot in.telnetd can work, but the system boot alone the in.telnetd 
can not accept the telnet connect, the daemon response "all network ports in use", 
what's happend?

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No.10, Shuren Rd., Shanhua Jen,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Free bugtracking system
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:36:49 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 11 May 2001 12:07:09 +0200, Peet Grobler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks.

Definately look into bugzilla.

Regards, Dustin

-- 
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Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:44:36 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 10 May 2001 01:04:29 +0200, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The machine should just not swap to disc and it will run without any
>problems,
>even with loadaverage > 50.

I assume you mean 5. Anyway, if the original poster is interested in monitoring
performance download sysstat, which is a sar implementation for Linux. Vital 
for real work. Alternatively, or perhaps as a compliment to sar, you can 
easily build tools to log at various times data from software such as vmstat,
which can be very useful to detect long-term trends.

I'm still curious why there isn't a native sar installed by default on Linux
systems. This is like having a car without a speedometer.

Regards, Dustin

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From: "Robert Wiegand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Ximian Gnome changed Login manager despite telling it not to
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:08:26 -0500

In article <3af02bf5$0$62139$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik
Gillespie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I installed Ximian Gnome 1.4 this morning and after the install it
> asked if I would like to use the new Login manager or leave my
> configuration as it was.  Since I had customized my Login manager, I
> told it not to change anything, but when I restarted X it had been
> changed anyway.  No problem except when I modify the gdm.conf and
> Xsetup_0 files to put in my customizations again they don't work
> anymore!  How do I customize my login manager with a custom logo and
> background with this new version of Ximian?

Edit the file /etc/sysconfig/desktop (if it doesn't exist create it).
Add the line: "DISPLAYMANAGER=GNOME"  (without the
quote marks of course) to change your login manager back to gdm.

-- 
Regards,
Bob Wiegand   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve)
Subject: Re: GNOME RPMs
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:54:29 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Rose):
>|  bidalah wrote:
>| > A simple question, but with a difficult answer:
>| > 
>| > What are the packages that need to be installed in order to use GNOME?
>| > 
>| > And I don't mean the the actual dependencies.  I know you can get those just by
>| > typing "rpm -qRp gnome*.rpm".  The problem with this approach is that many of
>| > the dependencies listed
>| > are located in rpm's that have completed different names!  No matter where I
>| > look I cannot find a simle list of
>| > exactly which rpm's I need to install to put GNOME and all of its necessary
>| > dependencies on my system.
>| > Does anyone know?
>|  
>|  A simple answer: Install Ximian GNOME :-)
>|  http://www.ximian.com/

I wouldn't at this point recommend Ximian to anyone. Have you seen the
supported distro list? Also the installer asks one to do some strange
things, like de-install XFce before the install process can proceed.
There couldn't possibly be any legit reason for this as XFce doesn't use
any Gnome libs or interfere with Gnome in any way.

As far as I'm concerned Ximian with the google debacle, and now this, is
not a company I'd want open source to be associated with.

FWIW, I went to SuSE's ftp site and downloaded their rpms.
-- 
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by GNU/Linux


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From: Alan Hoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nautilus crash? (ximian gnome 1.4)
Date: 11 May 2001 15:16:44 GMT

Hey, I recently installed Ximian Gnome 1.4 and the Nautilus
environment worked initially.  However, now the desktop icons don't
show up anymore and I get the following error when I try to start
nautilus from the command line:

** WARNING **: GConf error:
  No database available to save your configuration:
 Unable to store a value at key 
'/apps/nautilus/defaults/novice/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_hidden_files'

** WARNING **: GConf error:
  No database available to save your configuration:
 Unable to store a value at key 
'/apps/nautilus/defaults/novice/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_backup_files'

   [similar message repeated for about 50 or so similar files]

** WARNING **: GConf error:
  No database available to save your configuration:
 Unable to store a value at key 
'/apps/nautilus/visibility/apps/nautilus/preferences/home_uri'

** WARNING **: GConf error:
  No database available to save your configuration:
 Unable to store a value at key 
'/apps/nautilus/visibility/apps/nautilus/preferences/hide_built_in_bookmarks'

Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation


Gdk-WARNING **:     ISO8859-1


Gdk-WARNING **:     ISO8859-1


Gdk-ERROR **: undefined font type

aborting...
Aborted

And then sometimes it Segfaults out at this point too.

Any ideas?

-alan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuomas Airaksinen)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: What is sendmail?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:18:33 GMT

Fri, 11 May 2001 13:11:12 +1000, Dean Thompson kirjoitti:
>
>Hi Lamar,
>
>> I am new to Linux and I am coming from the "Windows" world.  We are 
>> thinking about moving our "MS Exchange" e-mail server over to Linux and 
>> sendmail. Right now with "Exchange 5.5" we can do POP3, SMTP and Web e-mail 
>> access. Can we do any of this with sendmail?  If not, what do we need to 
>> make it happen?  We well be running RedHat 7.1.  Thanks for any input.
>
>Sendmail is merely a program which is responsible for receiving mail and
>forwarding it to the correct user.  It handles incoming mail hosts and the
>processing of aliases and so forth.
>
>It isn't a fully integrated solution like MS Exchange.  You will also need to
>install the "imap" package onto your Redhat box to provide you with imap and
>pop mail services (this is a very simple thing to do).  As for the real beauty
>of Exchage (the Web Mail), you will have to look around for a product which
>does it.  I know that there are a few out there which are capable of doing the
>task, but their names and URL's escape me.  However, I would be interested in
>any web front ends that you did manage to find.

I just got a mail from a guy at helsinki university, and his User-Agent was
IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2-cvs. I guess that's something you're looking
for.

-- 
Best regards, Tuomas Airaksinen 
For That Matter: http://tuma.stc.cx/

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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disappearing hard disk space
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:35:34 -0400

could you please explain what you mean by "recycle the logs"

thanx
-sud 
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Lew Pitcher wrote:

>On Fri, 11 May 2001 10:28:43 -0400, "Sudhakar R."
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I've noticed that everytime I login to my RH 7.0 system a good chunk of
>>hard disk space is used up (usually around 0.15 MB) everytime. this space
>>is not released again. so my / partition is close to running out of
>>space(6MB free now!!)
>>
>>/home is mounted on a different partition...so i know that is not the
>>problem. can some1 help me figure out what's going on here before my
>>system crashes.
>
>Have you recycled your log files? Take a look in /var/logs and see
>what syslog, messages, debug, etc. have in them.
>
>Have you cleaned out your /tmp directory lately?
>
>>thanx. any help will be highly appreciated.
>>-sud
>>
>
>
>Lew Pitcher, Information Technology Consultant, Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
>

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From: "Peter Hollenbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Peter Hollenbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Automatic Login to Console
Date: 11 May 2001 10:41:06 -0500


When the system boots, how does one cause a process to automatically log
in to a console and run a program? I'm running Redhat 7. I now start a
series of programs from rc.local, but one of the programs doesn't run
correctly when it doesn't have a console. The system is remote and
unattended so I need to do this without operator intervention.

Thanks for any help,

Peter Hollenbeck


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From: "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: printtool
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:55:09 -0400

hello,
whenever we make a change to the printer setup in the gui printtool the
changes are not taking effect. when we go back in everything changes back to
what it was.

thank you,
Kenny.




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From: A. Dueselder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Thai fonts and Thai keyboard layout under linux/kde2
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:55:25 +0200

Marco Schulze wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm using a SuSE 7.0 Linux-distribution (German) with KDE2 and I would
> like to have the possibility to use Thai fonts and a Thai keyboard layout.

Well, I don't know a program for it, but KDE itself will give you the 
opportunity! Go to your Control Center by clicking at the "Start 
Application" button and look for it in the list. Once it opened up, go to 
Personalization and choose the Country & Language option. There you will 
find Thai Language, the keyboard layout is at the "Keyboard layout" option 
(who would have guessed?!)...

Good luck,
            Arne
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The answer is 42!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Subject: Re: chown to another user (give a file away).
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:08:32 +0100

In article <9df1i6$jvk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Collins wrote:
>Why can't I give my files to another user with opening chown up with sudo?
>Sorry to be blunt, but that's dumb! and a security risk. What is wrong with 
>giving files away?
>
>The manual page for chown(2) quotes (under "Conforming to"),
>
>"The chown call conforms to SVr4, SVID, POSIX, X/OPEN.  The 4.4BSD version 
>can only be used by the superuser (that is,  ordinary  users  cannot  
>giveaway files)."
>
>It doesn't however say that chown conforms to 4.4BSD (or am I missing 
>something) - although it's functionality does.
>
>Has anyone any thoughts on this?

another reason is because it would otherwise be possible to do something
like this

echo -en "echo \"hahaha! I'm you!\" \n rm -rf ~" > a.file
chmod u+s a.file
chmod a+rx a.file
chown enemy.enemysgroup a.file
./a.file


Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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