Linux-Misc Digest #830, Volume #21               Thu, 16 Sep 99 00:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (rob)
  Re: COMMERCIAL: Cheap Linux machines / network appliances (Gary Lawrence Murphy)
  Re: HELP: please explain SU access (Allen Wong)
  Re: Absurd Linux mentality ! (Johannes Nix)
  PostScript to Word? (T.P Harte)
  Re: A How configure sendmail without a permanent domain name? (Hal Burgiss)
  ROOT FILE SYSTEM (YOON, Joo-Yung)
  Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (David M. Cook)
  Re: Help: Max No. of clients supported... ("Jonathan Kline")
  Power of Language Abstraction (was: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !) (Johannes Nix)
  "bash: id:command not found" (cherry liu)
  Re: winmodem driver to linux (William Burrow)
  Re: how do i create a device? (TXS II)
  Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux (Carl Fink)
  Re: STUPID C question ("Michael B.")
  Magnified Display (Robert Pirie)
  Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux (Spike!)
  Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! ("Charlie Gibbs")
  Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root? (TXS II)
  Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Ken Pizzini)
  Re: eMachines Sound Driver ("Michael B.")
  Linuxconf problems on Redhat 6.0 ("Brian Donovan")
  Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port! (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: Can't get network connection (Leonard Evens)

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From: rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:56:38 -0600

This post is overly crossposted.  Anyway, your problem is not 
your window manager or your distribution, it is gnome.  The same 
window manager (Enlightenment) might be reasonably fast without gnome,
or Window Maker is nice.  Older ones like olwm and twm are likely
to be faster yet but not quite as nice (in some opinions).

rob.


David Rabanus wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I wonder which window manager might be the fastest on a Compaq Laptop
> (Presario 1215, 24MB RAM, 180 MHz). I have installed RedHat 6.0 (Kernel
> 2.2.5-15smp) and it automatically installed the window manager
> "enlightenment" and "gnome" (although I don't understand what tasks each of
> those exactly fulfill). Anyway: I turns out that this system is VERY slow.
> Even slower than Windows 95. But that - of course - wasn't the reason to
> switch over to linux. When I try to change the window manager in the "GNOME
> Control Center" it doesn't seem to remember that when I "startx" the next
> time. But it doesn't offer me the option to save that new configuration.
> 
> Now: Probably that also depends on the distribution I have.
> What is the recommendation for the slimmest/fastest linux
> version/distribution/window manager that should be used?
> Which window manager does NOT use a thousand bitmaps to display its window
> corners and radio buttons and so on?
> 
> In my experience the trend goes to still fancier desktops with a thousand
> different gimmicks and gizmos constantly sucking memory and cpu time and
> that sucks (literally :-). I just want to know how to SWITCH them off. I
> hope that this doesn't impair the good reputation of linux being an
> efficient system.
> 
> Thanks in advance - Dave.

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From: Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COMMERCIAL: Cheap Linux machines / network appliances
Date: 15 Sep 1999 22:05:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>>>> "F" == F David Sacerdoti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    F> A new company, Sacerdoti Linux Machines (SLM) is selling cheap
    F> Linux computers using AMD K6-2 chips and generic PC hardware.

    F> The machines come complete with 17" monitor and fast ethernet
    F> for $899. The software is a KDE version of RH6.0.

    F> See specs and order from website: http://slinuxmachines.com

Better rethink that: The Linux Store is advertising very similar
machines (with sound as well but perhaps not network cards) for $399.

-- 
Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  TeleDynamics Communications Inc
Business Telecom Services : Internet Consulting : http://www.teledyn.com
Linux/GNU Education Group: http://www.egroups.com/group/linux-education/
"Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)


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From: Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.2600,comp.security.unix,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HELP: please explain SU access
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:38:03 -0700


    That's true with Linux, but with the *BSDs, you need to be in the
"wheel" group in order to become "superuser".

Allen
-- 
Linux:  If you're not careful, you might actually learn something.

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From: Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Date: 16 Sep 1999 02:44:36 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:


> 
> We could change the command to:
> 
> pickdirectory /home ; archiver --create --filter * | 
>     ( pickdirectory /home ; archiver --extract --filter )
> 
> The cryptic names would go away, and the command line happens to get
> longer.  The syntax hasn't changed one iota, and the logic behind that
> syntax is quite valid, regardless of the names of the commands.  
> 
> 
> - In the case of UNIX, it "suffers" from having some commands that
>   have cryptic names, like cp, mv, tar, ls, mkdir, and cat.
> 
>   (Not unlike the crypticness of copy, rename, zip, dir, mkdir, and
>   type.)
> 


Now, the most used commands are the shortest so that your don't loose
time to type "list" fifty times a day or "remove". It is clear that
this is fine for people which use the commands a lot and not so fine
for people which don't.

The least mnemonic is "cat" but guess what does "tac" ?

Johannes

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T.P Harte)
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: PostScript to Word?
Date: 15 Sep 1999 22:50:15 GMT

Don't quite know where to post this one...

Does anyone know if it is possible to convert .ps documents
created by, say LaTeX and dvips, into MS Word 6.0 .doc files?

Pardon the naive question...shot in the dark...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: A How configure sendmail without a permanent domain name?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Sep 1999 19:28:35 -0500

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:13:02 GMT, Jacek Sierpinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a computer with Caldera OpenLinux 2.2, at home. I haven't a
>permanent Internet connection - I connect to Internet through normal
>phone line. My provider (Polish Telecommunication) doesn't give
>permanent IP and domain addresses, so I can have different addresses at
>different occasions (though from ppp.katowice.tpnet.pl subdomain only).
>Of course, I can't have a hostname identical with any of the possible
>addresses, so I have localhost.localdomain hostname. I don't use
>'Auto-configure Hostname from this IP' option because it confuses
>X-server and I wouldn't have a possibility to open any KDE application
>during Internet connection.
>I want to use sendmail to sent my e-mails. In fact, I use Kmail
>configured to use sendmail. I have some e-mail addresses and accounts,
>all not related to tpnet.pl domain. In most cases, it works good but
>sometimes I receive errors, e.g:
>
>----- Transcript of session follows -----
>... while talking to frad.onet.pl.:
>>>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=2454 BODY=8BITMIME
><<< 553 5.4.3 Policy analysis reports DNS error with your source domain.
>

Check out www.moongroup.com and look for mail help on 'masquerading the
envelope'. Great site for mail problems, with a good mailing list too.

[snipped]

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
            Linux helps those who help themselves

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From: YOON, Joo-Yung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ROOT FILE SYSTEM
Date: 16 Sep 1999 01:50:19 GMT



FILE SYSTEM can not be loaded any more. 
But I can go into linux system by booting from loadlin.exe in dos. 
If anything goes wrong with root file system, 
what are those that need to be checked. 
I think this happens because I e2fsck'd when I was booting 
from loadlin.exe several days ago. 
Please help to figure and make out. 

Thanks, 

Joo-Yung
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:01:48 GMT

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:12:04 -0700, David Rabanus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I wonder which window manager might be the fastest on a Compaq Laptop

Try Window Maker.  A version already comes with Redhat 6.  To run it instead
of gnome create a file in your home directory called .Xclients

#!/bin/sh
exec wmaker

Then make it executable with chmod +x .Xclients.  Install the user specific
Window Maker files with wmaker.inst.  Then restart X.

If you want even faster, try IceWM.  It isn't as elegant as Window Maker,
though.

Dave Cook

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From: "Jonathan Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.protocols.smb,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help: Max No. of clients supported...
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:03:02 -0500

I use a Caldera 1.3 linux box, with a P90, and 16mb of ram as a
fileserver/gateway/firewall/webserver/email server for a network of about
100 clients most are 98 or 95.  We also have to NT servers and 2 Unix
database servers on the network.  Our network is BNC, or non UTP.  It's
pretty old, but stuff still flies even if our servers do SUCK!  Good luck!
The number of clients will not matter!

--
Jonathan Kline, A+
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> We are planning to run a Linux server in a school to provide file
> service and Internet service.  There are about 72 Win'98 clients that
> are going to hook up to the server, and Samba and Apache are chosen to
> support these services.  These clients are divided into two groups.  One
> group has 37 clients and the other 35.  These two groups belong to two
> different subnets (Say, 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 and
> 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0)  Do you think a single Linux box with Samba
> running is capable of supporting all these client machines?   The Linux
> box will have two network cards, each supporting a different subnet of
> clients.  The Linux box is made up of an Intel 350 Mhz CPU, 128M RAM,
> and SCSI hard-drive (SCSI-2, I guess) and two generic NE2000 network
> cards, installed with Mandrake Linux 6.0  BTW, the network is running on
> coaxial cables... (Pretty old...)
>
> Please help...
>
> Jimmy
>



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From: Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Power of Language Abstraction (was: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !)
Date: 16 Sep 1999 02:31:40 +0200

Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> (There's actually a comment on the original question...)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > Linux users who are proud that they learned what:
> > "     cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf - )     "
> >  means; don't yet realise that knowledge of this arbitrary syntax, will be of 
> >  no use to them in 10 years time.
> 
> Why not?  It's been useful already for a lot longer than that.

I started to learn UNIX in 1993 with a book written by Kernighan and
Ritchie in 1969, and it was all right and until now nothing mentioned
in the book turned useless.

> 
> And just why not?  For that matter, why is knowing English as opposed
> to an abstract syntax tree so universally applicable?
> 

Imagine we were not talking but showing each other pull-down
menus. Would this be faster than remember from 100,000 words of human
language?

The "language" concept is one of the most powerful abstractions of
computer interfaces. It relates very well to our way of thinking.


> > is it 'big' or is it 'large'.  Extending the principle of working with ideas
> > instead of 'strings of chars'. I don't know and DON'T WANT to know
> > how to mount my B: drive.  MdntCmd allows eg. to make a dir for 
> > often used scripts; call one script: 'mount B:' and call another:
> > 'unmount B:' . Then in future, easily/visually goto the 'Script' dir
> > visually scroll down to the 'well named script', hit enter - done !

too slow (for me). How many seconds do you need to remove the file
"core" whith this ? -  And too weak for more than 50,800 files in my
home (in only 1219 directories).


To remember filenames, the <Tab> key of the bash command line is most
useful. 

> 
> > Forget the school-boy mentality of being proud of acrobatically
> > remembering  the 'correct syntax'.         A further example:
> >  files have permission: read, write, execute; for owner, ........etc.
> >  the command is chmod or modch, or dog-shit or some-thing ?!?
> >  Using MdntCmdr I don't need to remember the arbitrary syntax.
> >  All is done via menu and results are visually confirmed !!

is well if you don't use this often, don't like much to remember and
don't have too many choices. The right tool for you. Did you try kfm
and tkdesk?

>>
> 
> Not at all.  mc makes it easy to move a directory tree from one place
> to another (for that matter, I could write an mvtree command quite
> trivially if I cared, and still quite easily if I wanted to make it
> robust), but that is not the entire task.
> 

after all, show me how you do your task - by mail. Will you send me a
video? See, we are able to describe _exactly_ what we are doing using
our shell language. Now try to describe me as exactly, say, how to
change the page numbering for a section of a MS Word document to
lowercase roman numerals. Hint: in LaTeX (which is a document
formatting language), it is

\pagenumbering{roman}

- That's all.



Johannes









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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cherry liu)
Subject: "bash: id:command not found"
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:53:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi, 
a new user had been login linux pc,but this system report as the
following:
bash: id:command not found
bash: id:commnad not found
[:too many arguments
bash: id: command not found

what are these meaning.

regards


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: winmodem driver to linux
Date: 16 Sep 1999 02:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:58:09 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Besides, winmodems are a total waste of space and processor time.
>>(Why not make your sound card produce the modem sounds? It's the same
>>principle)
>...<snip>...
>       Hmmm, interesting idea.  It would be quite a publicity stunt that
>might make the general public more aware of just what they're getting
>when they get a winmodem.  But...is there a connection to the phone line?
>Could an adapter be built and sold real cheap,  "Use Your Soundcard as
>a Modem!" the ads could say.

The amateur radio side of things does have a driver for using the
soundcard as a ``modem'' (called a TNC in ham radio lingo).  I forget up
to what speed the kernel supports, but at least 9600 baud comes to mind.
However, here's the rub, ham ``modems'' don't use trellis coding ISFAIK,
so higher speeds require higher bandwidth (which telephone lines don't
got).

However, the principle for implementing a soundcard as a modem is
already implemented.

-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: TXS II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how do i create a device?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:59:43 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve wrote:

> it seems another user on our system deleted our cdrom device.  how do i
> create a device in the /dev directory?

Steve,

on my linux box the file /dev/cdrom is just a pointer to /dev/hdc.
so maybe something line
ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/hdc (i think thats it it could be ln -s /dev/hdc
/dev/cdrom)
it might not be hdc.  i think it is hdc on mine because the cdrom drive is
an ide cdrom.  I forget if it is a slave to the master on hd1 or master on
hd2.  Something like that, I hope this makes some sense.
later
-TXSII




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux
Date: 16 Sep 1999 00:10:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:54:36 +0100 Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Of course, Word 2000 won't work, cos the idiots at M$ insist on a new output
>format for each new version...

Actually Word 2000 is claimed to use the same file format as Word 97.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy." 
        -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun

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From: "Michael B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: STUPID C question
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:51:59 +0000


hmmm....  that code fragment is a bit *too* much of a fragment.
could you start with the whole file and then whittle it down into
a smallest complete file that still demonstrates the problem?

next question... did you remember:  #include <stdio.h> ??

if not then (depending on the compiler options you use) the
compiler is *very* likely quietly accept whatever you gave it
and proceed to make some sort of sense out of it (very often
*not* what you intended).

for example with the compiler assuming
the default prototype: int fgets(int, int, int);

     when you tell it: fgets(buffer,80,fp2);

    it will processes: fgets((int)buffer,(int)80,(int)fp2);

now since you declared: char buffer[80];

(int)buffer ain't going to be what you thought it should be.

however, if you declare: char* buffer = malloc(80);

then (int)buffer will work!  but only because a pointer is
really only an integer number anyway and the fgets() function
will interpret this integer as a (char*) pointer (which is what
you wanted in the first place --- a rare case of 2 wrongs making
a right).

you may also try: fgets(&(buffer[0]),80,fp2)

Of course the best plan is to put: #include <stdio.h> at the top
of your program.

But like i said, this is a bit too much of a fragment, so i may
have over stepped my assumptions.

me wrote:
> 
> I'm new to programming in linux......but i do know C. the following
> piece of code is giving me a problem.
> i've marked off where the problem occurs below.
> 
> please help.
> ali
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>     struct timeval time
>     struct timezone obselete;
>     gettimeofday(&time,&obselete); //current time
>

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From: Robert Pirie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Magnified Display
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:40:58 +1000



G'day
I've just installed Red Hat 6.0 on my P166MMX about 6 times with various
configurations and managed to get X started up running Gnome and
Enlightenment. But the display is magnified about 5 or 6 times and
doesn't scroll so I can only use the top half of the windows by moving
them around.
How can I fix it?

Ta,
Robert

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:54:36 +0100

And verily, didst Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:

> Hello,

> Is it possible to convert MS-Word to other formats like Corel Word 
> Perfect, LaTeX, etc... under Linux (or other OSs but preferably Linux)
> with commercial or free software?
> Does Corel WP for Linux do this?

It depends which version of Word file you have, but in general, yes.

> Does Star Office for Linux do this?

As with WordPerfect, it depends.

Word 7 *should* be OK.
Of course, Word 2000 won't work, cos the idiots at M$ insist on a new output
format for each new version...
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Date: 15 Sep 99 17:16:23 -0800
From: "Charlie Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Nicolas De Rico) writes:

>Windows is like heroine.  You have to flush it out of your system.  You
>do that by formating your hard drive and installing Linux.  Keep your
>system Windows-free for 2 months and then you'll feel much better.  If
>you think that you can't live without win-application A or B, then it's
>just the addiction talking.  The Win-Purge may hurt you at first, but
>not for long.

I like this analogy.  Let's run with it.  Picture Bill Gates standing
in a dark alley, whispering to passersby:  "Psst!  Hey, kid!  Want to
taste something really good?"  And he holds out some shiny, hypnotic
GUI that reels them in.  Once hooked, they have to keep coming back
to him for more, because he controls the territory and crushes or
freezes out any would-be competitors, and forms cartels with suppliers.

Going cold turkey, as you've described above, would indeed be hard.
But there's always methadone therapy (Wine, tapering off to fvwm95).

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Gibbs)
Remove the first period after the "at" sign to reply.


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From: TXS II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 05:24:14 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just ran across this in my "Running Linux" boox by matt welsh and lar
kaufman, old but very helpful, any it states that the manual page for mount
listts possible values for options in the /etc/fstab file.  The file is
organize like this:

#device             directory     type          options
/dev/fd0              /disk           ext2          user

now putting this in /etc/fstab would make linux try to mount at boot time.
I've never done this, but maybe this will send you in the right direction.
good luck
TXS II



Kurt & Amy Johnson wrote:

> Using RH6.0 and I like KDE best.
>
> Can I (and should I, for that matter) set permissions for /dev/floppy to
> allow all users to mount it?
>
> What is the level of permissions that I should use?
>
> T I A,
> Kurt



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 02:40:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 15 Sep 1999 17:07:51 GMT, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So what is your problem? It seems that you did use too many programs
>that do option parsing with getopt() and thus do not implement the typical
>UNIX program beavior.

Huh?  getopt() _is_ the "typical UNIX program behavior" for
command-line parsing.  There are historical artifacts like
tar and dd which do not conform to it, and programs like
"find" which would become even more painful to use if they
tried to conform to it, but most programs do either use it,
or act almost like they do (e.g., "tail").

There do exist reasons to not use getopt() (or another interface
which implements getopt()-compatible parsing as a distinctive
subset, such as GNU's getopt_long()), but in the absence of a
good reason it is generally much more comfortable and less
surprising to a seasoned user if programs behave in a getopt()
kind of manner.

                --Ken Pizzini

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From: "Michael B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: eMachines Sound Driver
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:59:11 +0000


I did this and actually got it to work will little headach....
or course i can't remember what i did.  but i do know where i
started.  check out:  http://www.alsa-project.org/intro.html

the version i used (about 1 month ago) was a little ruff around
the edges (and the documentation needed help) but The Advanced
Linux Sound Architecture project looks to be very exciting when
totally finished.

Steve DenBleyker wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know where or how I can get a sound driver for a eMachine 400i?
> The integrated sound card on the motherboard is "Crystal 3d PCI Sound Chip
> CS4280 with AC97 Codec". Thanks in advance.
> 
> Steve DenBleyker

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From: "Brian Donovan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linuxconf problems on Redhat 6.0
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:51:12 -0400

Hi all,

 when I attempt to run linuxconf on my redhat system I receive a
Segmentation fault and the program terminates. Any idea how to solve this
problem?

Thanx



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port!
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:23:48 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear) writes:

>On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:51:37 -0400, "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>Anything wrong with options.ttyS0, options.ttyS1, etc???

>Okay, the million dollar question is.. how do I have AutoPPP use the
>appropriate options file? (This is the same question posted in the
>original message.)

[...]

The mgetty login.conf file doesn't care about the various options.ttyS*
files at all. It's not mgetty that's reading these files, it's pppd .
And pppd will read the corresponding options.ttyS* files.

Michael
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't get network connection
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:56:12 -0500

Eric Headley wrote:
> 
> I recently got a Gateway GP6-400 which I can't connect to my network.
> It has a 3com 3c905c-TX card preinstalled but I can't even find eth0
> when I do an ifconfig or netstat.  I see this message when the machine
> is booting up :
>

This sounds vaguely like what happened to us on a Dell Dimension
with a similar card.   Try looking at

http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/linux.htm

Apparently recent modules for at least one 3Com card don't support the
latest version of the card.  But 3Com is supplying drivers under the
GPL.

In our case, we didn't get any error message that I remember,
but we couldn't connect to our network until we replaced the
module.  We found one on the web.  But 3Com's has a different
name and they give instructions for installing it.

 
> eth0: i586_open() irq 0
> 
> What could be causing the problem, and how can I solve it ?
> 
> Eric Headley
> 
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