Linux-Misc Digest #382, Volume #19                Tue, 9 Mar 99 10:13:09 EST

Contents:
  X not working with fixed freq card/monitor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RealPlayer G2 and WMP ("Benjamin Sher")
  Re: adaptec ava 1505, 1510 (Andrew Robinson)
  Re: I need help on configuring a RAID 1 ("Curtis Adams")
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (John Hasler)
  Re: swapon -s: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory (Dieter Rohlfing)
  Re: 2.2.2 and parport (Robert Lynch)
  error message at boot - Red Hat 5.2 ("Gavin Maxwell")
  Re: so, how is gnome 1.0, guys? <troll> (steve mcadams)
  Re: Upgrading kernel in Red Hat (Bob Tennent)
  Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Johan Kullstam)
  Reinstalling applications? -- Cnt+Alt+Del -- Aliases -- Multimedia ("Benjamin Sher")
  Re: How to change date for Unix/Linux? ("SANDEEP SINGH THUKRAL(97011002)")
  tcl8.0.4 tests screwed up root (Marc D. Williams)
  Re: glibc2.1.x + gnu.org 'political issues'?? (jik-)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: X not working with fixed freq card/monitor
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:14:44 GMT

Hi, all.
I am having a _very_ difficult time getting X working. I use RH 5.2 and
the problem is, I have a fixed freq. monitor
NCD 19C (HF/VF/DotClock 74.4/70/125) that came with a fixed freq video
card S3Virge DX Explorer (4Mb PCI) card.
I got this pair working in windoze (well, almost, only for 640X480 and
1280X1024) but I'm more interested in having them in Linux.
I tried lots of combinations, to no avail. I'm still new to this, so I
only understand half the stuff in XF86Config, and the utilities (Xconfigurator
& xf86config) didn't help much. It keeps throwing out an "invalid video mode
found" or something to that degree.
Anybody, ideas on how can I set it up, examples of a correct XF86Config file?
Oh, and don't get me started on the support (or lack thereof) provided
by the manuf of the card, even though they claim they will supply info for
Linux users too (www.mirage-mmc.com).
Thanks in advance,
Sorin

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From: "Benjamin Sher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealPlayer G2 and WMP
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:25:58 GMT


Dear friends:

Multimedia

a) Does anyone have any idea if there is multimedia player for Linux that
will allow playing STREAMING audio and/or video of Windows Media Player
files (asp or something like that). There are certain sites that require
that. By the way, I use ADSL, so it's especially important.

b) And, a last related question, does anyone know when the RealPlayer will
release its G2 player for Linux. Currently, the only version available is
5.0. Is it good enough with ADSL for streaming video on broadband sites?

My deep thanks to everyone who answered my questions yesterday. The
legendary Linux support effort is indeed a reality.

Thanks so much.

Benjamin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Benjamin Sher
Sher's Russian Web & Index
http://personal.msy.bellsouth.net/msy/s/h/sher07/index.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Robinson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: adaptec ava 1505, 1510
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:51:34 GMT

On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:47:36 -0800, Taylor Wescoatt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm unable to find drivers for either of these cards.  Has anyone
>installed them successfully?
>

Use the Driver for the Adaptec 152x series, I found I needed to
disable parity as well. My card is located at IO 0x140, irq 10 so the
line to give to the kernel was:
aha152x=0x140,10,7,0


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From: "Curtis Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: I need help on configuring a RAID 1
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 08:40:27 -0500

There's a mini-Howto at
http://www.ssc.com/linux/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Software-RAID.html
that's a good starting point. However, it's very lacking in information.

Here's a simplified step-by-step process
1) Install the RAID tools v0.5 (if you have RedHat 5.2, the tools are on the
CD in RPM format)
2) create a partition on the two separate drives using fdisk (must be equal
in size)
3) edit /etc/raidtab to look like... (modify the device parameters to
whatever your drives are)

raiddev /dev/md0
  raid-level              1
  nr-raid-disks        2
  nr-spare-disks     0

  device                  /dev/hdc1
  raid-disk              0
  device                  /dev/hdd1
  raid-disk              1

4) Add the RAID to the kernel configuration, execute...
 raidadd /dev/md0

5) Start the RAID, execute...
 raidstart /dev/md0

6) Format the RAID device, execute...
 mke2fs /dev/md0

7) Change to the top level mouting point, and create a directory name for
the mounting point,...
 cd /
 mkdir myraid

8) Mount the RAID device as the new directory,
 mount -t ext2 /dev/md0 /myraid

You can also tell Linux to automatically mount the device when booting, if
desired. I used linuxconf to do this.
Review all the man pages for the various commands so you can customize to
your needs.

Good Luck
Curtis




Ray wrote in message ...
>Hi, i have a 4 gb SCSI boot hd and 2 9 gb SCSI data hd�s. I would do a raid
>1 over the 2 9 gbhd�s, how do i ?
>
>(raid 1 i think it is : mirroring a harddisk and keep it alive mirrored)
>(i think to keep the mirror alive is much easier than to bring it to live
>;-) )
>
>
>Regards
>The Ray
>
>Where i work http://www.ultrasonic.at
>
>
>
>
>



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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:09:50 GMT

Brian Moore writes:
> (Again, much of this is due to their non-compete clause that they signed
> when they sold Xenix off to SCO, so it's unlikely to change.)

It'll change the moment they decide that buying out the agreement is a
worthwhile investment.
-- 
John Hasler                This posting is in the public domain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]            Do with it what you will.
Dancing Horse Hill         Make money from it if you can; I don't mind.
Elmwood, Wisconsin         Do not send email advertisements to this address.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dieter Rohlfing)
Subject: Re: swapon -s: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory
Date: 8 Mar 1999 22:39:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:12:17 +0000, Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>My guess is that you don't have any swap partitions enabled. The
>previous poster was probably trying to suggest you ran "swapon -a",
>which will activate all swap partitions set up in /etc/fstab. Are you
>sure you have any swap space set up?

Indeed I'm running 'swapon -a' in my boot script.

Have a look at the following commands:

ttyp2 User=root@bus Dir=/var/log rc=0
free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers
cached
Mem:        127652      20808     106844       5928       5900
3060
-/+ buffers:            11848     115804
Swap:        69624      25064      44560

ttyp2 User=root@bus Dir=/var/log rc=0
swapon -s
swapon: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory

>Alternatively, you could be running an old kernel - I *think*
>/proc/swaps is a fairly recent addition (2.0.x).

I'm running kernel 2.0.36.

Any other ideas, why I haven't /proc/swaps?

Dieter Rohlfing

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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:47:43 -0800
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.2 and parport

Ajit Krishnan wrote:
> 
> i'm having a problem with the parport and parport_pc modules with rh 5.2 (2.2.2)
> if i compile them directly into the kernel, i am able to print without any problems
> however, if i compile them as modules, then I can't print......
> parport is loaded by modprobe and is used by lp
> parport_pc is not loaded automatically (i can load it but it makes no difference)
> the file queues without any problem....but the output of loq is "printer offline?"
> 
> has anyone experienced something like this before?
> 
> thanks
> 
> ajit

Try putting these lines in your /etc/conf.modules:

# Options
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7

Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.best.com/~rmlynch/

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From: "Gavin Maxwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: error message at boot - Red Hat 5.2
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:50:40 +1000

I was wondering if anyone knows how to resolve the error message at boot
time that is associated with an Intel processor:

Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug, workaround enabled


Thanks

Gavin M. (nexus)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: so, how is gnome 1.0, guys? <troll>
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 23:15:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) wrote:

>A nice panel, nice configurability, very good looks, some small apps
>(gncal, gEdit etc.) that are really great, more big great apps coming
>up.

Sorry, this is going to sound stupid, but after trying KDE basically I
quit paying any attention to the talk about gnome.  I'm currently
running fvwm2 with ktdesk.  Not sure if ktdesk is its name; since I
gave my Linux box away I've been in a dual-boot situation again until
I get some chassis modifications made on the for-crap Packard-Bell
system that I'm building as my new Linux-box.  Anway, I haven't run
Linux lately since I'm mostly doing things that NT is already set up
for.  So having made a short story long, this may be stupid to ask,
but does gnome have its own window-manager, or does it run under
whatever one is "it"?  Do apps change in any particular way when
running under gnome, for example would the gimp look and act the same
with the same window decorations etc?

>> Is it a fat pig like KDE,
>
>I did some memory statistics recently, it consumes far less memory
>than KDE in a similar situation. To be more concrete: with exactly
>equivalent applications running, KDE with kwm consumes 53,196 KB of
>memory with an RSS of 8,340 KB, while Gnome with FLWM only uses 35,612
>KB with an RSS of 4,884 KB.

<sigh>  Only 35meg.  Well, moving right along...

>As you can see, the stuff is smaller, and the percentage of RSS is
>about two percent less - sounds good to me.

Sounds good to me too, what's RSS mean?

> Note that Gnome with
>Enlightenment, while still smaller than KDE, is significantly worse.

What does "significanly worse" mean in english please?  Slower,
uglier, less reliable, more likely to burn your eggs, what?

>And note that I compiled Gnome for maximum speed and not for minimum
>memory usage (i.e. I did -O7 -march=pentium).

Frankly it seems to me that one should be able to compile something
that provides the level of functionality you're describing for maximum
speed and still have it come out smaller than 35meg, but what I don't
know about Linux and X would fill a small encyclopedia.

>> or does it really work with actual
>> working GUI?  Ready to throw away emacs because xemacs is so hot under
>> gnome?
>
>Huh? What is so hot about XEmacs under Gnome? As far as I know, it is
>not the least bit Gnome aware - though there is an Esound-aware patch
>I am aware of :).

I was making a joke.  Obviously it flopped.

>> Other boasts or horror stories to tell?
>> 
>> Yeah I know, I could go to the gnome site and check it for myself, but
>> having installed KDE it's not clear to me that I want a graphic-mode
>> user interface enough to deal with that level of pain again.
> 
>Try Gnome, you won't be deceived. The actual directory tree of Gnome
>is smaller, too. 

I wasn't deceived when I tried KDE, just disappointed.  It did however
provide an opportunity to learn a little about building stuff from
source on Linux so it wasn't wasted time.

To summarize, what gnome provides is?

>A nice panel, nice configurability, very good looks, some small apps
>(gncal, gEdit etc.) that are really great, more big great apps coming
>up.

A configurable panel-thing that's pretty.  What does the panel
control?  Is it like YaST and the non-working RedHat X-based
rpm-manager?
____________________________________________________________________________
"Always enforce your assumptions." -steve, http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Upgrading kernel in Red Hat
Date: 9 Mar 1999 12:46:19 GMT

On 9 Mar 1999 04:53:23 GMT, Howard Mann wrote:
 >
 >I am currently using an "unmodified" Red Hat 5.0 with kernel 2.0.32.
 >I wish to upgrade to kernel 2.0.36.I would appreciate your comments 
 >concerning the relative merits/demerits of the following two approaches:
 >
 >1. Download and install the RPM's of the  kernel and modules from the 5.0
 > updates directory.Edit /etc/lilo.conf appropriately. Make new bootdisk with 
 >new kernel. Remove old kernel/modules RPM's after verifying that new kernel
 > works.
 >
 >2. Obtain Red Hat 5.2 CD and choose " upgrade" option.
 >
The first approach will be quicker and easier.  But the second will
also upgrade almost all of the other packages, including several
that have security risks.  The upgrade should work okay, but there
may be some re-configuration necessary.  If you're on-line, you
should do it; if not, suit yourself.

Bob T.

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No-Win Modem Situation
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Mar 1999 08:07:23 -0500

Renhao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm not sure what Hugh's situation is, but I, too, am in need of a good
> internal modem.  It necessary for me because, my onboard I/O controller is
> a bit outdated, so I need something with it's own UART 16550 chip.  If
> anyone can reply to Hugh's inquiry, I would be very grateful as well.
> -Ren

you can always get a serial port card for not a lot of money.

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Mar 1999 08:09:39 -0500

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brian Moore writes:
> > (Again, much of this is due to their non-compete clause that they signed
> > when they sold Xenix off to SCO, so it's unlikely to change.)
> 
> It'll change the moment they decide that buying out the agreement is a
> worthwhile investment.

yes, but as far as i can tell, microsoft are idealogically committed
to destroying unix.  i can see bill gates taking off his shoe and
pounding it on the rostrum....

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: "Benjamin Sher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reinstalling applications? -- Cnt+Alt+Del -- Aliases -- Multimedia
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:11:13 GMT

Dear friends:

A few simple questions:

1 -- If, for any reason, you have to reinstall Linux (in this case, Red Hat
5.2), do you have to reinstall the applications, too? That's the real
nightmare of Windows reinstallation: Installing Win95 takes only 45
minutes. Installing the applications takes many long hours, even with a zip
drive. If, indeed, as I have heard, you never have to reinstall the
applications, then this is a good enough reason in itself to switch to
Linux.

2 -- I have read that the "three finger salute" means different things in
different Linux distributions. I am waiting for my Red Hat Linux and
reading up on Linux but I don't as yet have the Red Hat manual. Exactly
what does Cnt+Alt+Del mean in Red Hat: Shutdown? Proper shutdown or
improper shutdown? Or something else? If it means improper shutdown, is
there a way to disable that command. One kind Linux user told me that this
would be a possible solution but didn't specify how. Is that possible or
difficult? I am so used to this "salute" to check programs, turn off the
system, etc. in Windows 95, that I am afraid that I might end up damaging
my Linux installation before I get out of the habit. Would very much
appreciate a clarification on this point.

3) Someone else spoke of protecting the "root" by using aliases. Is that
the same as   using Linux in "user" mode?

4) Multimedia

a) Does anyone have any idea if there is multimedia player for Linux that
will allow playing STREAMING audio and/or video of Windows Media Player
files (asp or something like that). There are certain sites that require
that. By the way, I use ADSL, so it's especially important.

b) And, a last related question, does anyone know when the RealPlayer will
release its G2 player for Linux. Currently, the only version available is
5.0. Is it good enough with ADSL for streaming video on broadband sites?

My deep thanks to everyone who answered my questions yesterday. The
legendary Linux support effort is indeed a reality.

Thanks so much.

Benjamin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
Benjamin Sher
Sher's Russian Web & Index
http://personal.msy.bellsouth.net/msy/s/h/sher07/index.html

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From: "SANDEEP SINGH THUKRAL(97011002)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How to change date for Unix/Linux?
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:12:46 +0000

Try this

run startx from root , then type control-panel to get the panel . This
has, besides others, the icon for changing system date and time.

Bye

SAndy

On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, jik- wrote:

> Alexander Kalinin wrote:
> > 
> > In comp.unix.questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > date is the basic command. ntpd is more advanced way.
> 
> I found the best way to fix the date and time was to do it in the BIOS. 
> Every time I restarted my coimputer Linux would check the bios and use
> THAT time anyway,...so changing the date in Linux for me was irrelevant,
> changing the BIOS clock did the trick.
> 
> Funny thing is, win95 seems to use the BIOS clock directly, so changing
> the time in win95 will carry over to Linux...one of the few ways the 2
> affect each other on the same system.
> 
> 
> 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: tcl8.0.4 tests screwed up root
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Mar 1999 13:32:53 -0800

This is a multi-part message (whining, complaining). :-)

Last night I compiled the latest tcl/tk packages (8.0.4). 
I was about to install them but decided to do 'make tests' for
completeness. In /usr/local/src/tcl8.0.4/unix.
I'm in X with an xterm open and slrn,
reading news while 'make test' does its thing. Now at some
point I'm getting way too much disk activity and the load is
pretty high. Getting worried I ctrl-c out. For some reason my
next move was to do 'df'. Lost a bunch of space on my /usr partition.
Close to running out of it.
Eh? ls /tmp=nothing. ls /temp=nothing. Hmm.
ls ../tests showed nothing in particular but I did remember seeing
a td1 directory in the xterm display. ls ../tests/td1 had the
contents (or most) of my root tree.
An example of moving too fast here I 'rm -rf td1' and reclaimed
my lost space. Something doesn't feel right though.

Exit X and start midnight commander, get an error about no mc.ini
file. Uh oh... 
What do I see, half or more of my /root contents are gone!
Config/rc files, scripts, dirs, whatever.
It would seem that tcl's 'make test' saw fit to _move_ files
around. Assumptions are bad I know but I assumed that the contents
of the td1 dir were just copies so I removed it (the moving too fast
part).
So what the hell was tcl's tests doing that it needed to move
files?

I decided to use midnight commander's undelete function.
This is rough. I've got 2,110 entries to go through. All with
inode names. I've only made it through a couple hundred before
calling it quits last night (much too angry to stay awake).
Hard part is determing filenames. I have no idea what the name
of a given file is or should be. Some may provide clues, others are
unknown. Is it an rc file? What's the exact name and case?
What subdir was it in? What's the name of that netscape java
plugin/applet? On and on.
Most file are understandably screwed (partially overwritten, whatever).
I think I found my .procmailrc combined with some other file.
It would be helpful if I could grep though the undel list
to find the most important stuff (pppscript, slrnpullrc, slrnrc, etc.)
but midnight commander won't allow it. In fact it "locks up"
after giving me an error regarding that.

Far as backups go, none. Sob story or otherwise I'm broke
as heck, no credit no nada. Been waiting some ten months for
the Army to send me my last check. They tell me it was sent
three weeks ago. Geez, the government's been sending me junk 
since '83 but they somehow lose the last and most important check.
Anyway, no money means I have not been able to purchase backup
tapes for the Iomega Ditto 2GB. The only tape I had available for
Linux backup testing finally had to be given up to backup the
DOS/Win3 hard drive which died two weeks ago.
Believe you me I knew this kind of crap was gonna happen sooner
or later but without any way of backing up I'd have to deal
with it.

The PC Gods have really been giving it to me these past
few months. Good time to give it all up. :-\

Oh, in case I get some "you shouldn't have been running as root"
type thing, I was root since root is what one needs to be to
install the libraries.
Who'da though a 'make test' would screw me ("The PC Gods, that's who!").

-- 
>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DOS Internet -- http://www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html
Windows 3.x Makeover
   http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/

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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc2.1.x + gnu.org 'political issues'??
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 02:48:16 -0800

> Note that if glibc2.1 has "no real future" then neither does EGCS or
> glibc2.0 or GCC 2.8 that are other members of the "toolset."

egcs and gcc don't need glibc2.  libc5 works just fine with them and
they with it.  But, since I believe that the g in glibc stands for Gnu,
and Gnu is refusing to distribute, then were is it going to be headed in
the future?  I use libc5 and have been using egcs since 1.0.2, course I
haven't upgraded in a long time but afaik it doesn't 'require' glibc2 or
even run badly without it.

It can be forked away from gnu no prob, but someone is bound to have a
problem with that...flame war in isle 5.


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