Linux-Misc Digest #382, Volume #21               Fri, 13 Aug 99 03:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  How do I remove a hard drive? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: The Incredible Shrinking / !  Help! (Jeffrey C. Dege)
  Re: getting winmodem to work (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Ready to TRASH SuSE 6.1 (Teonanacatl)
  Re: can i use linux operating system (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Problem with D-Link ethernet adaptor (John McKown)
  Re: what NIC + Hub do you pros use? (John McKown)
  Re: helping the Third World (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: helping the Third World (Richard Kulisz)
  ATAPI CD-R under linux (Ken Deeter)
  Re: Resizing partitions (Abdullah Ramazanoglu)
  Re: getting winmodem to work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ATAPI CD-R under linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problem with SiS Graphics card (Jon Bloom)
  Re: linux mem=80M too long (Warren Bell)
  Re: Viewing bootup messages RH 5.2 (Bob Martin)
  Phat Linux?? ("Christopher")
  Installing Blackdown's jdk 117_v1a on RH 6.0. Please help. (Bill Johnston)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How do I remove a hard drive?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:11:54 GMT

I have installed RedHat 6.0
I have 3 hard drives in my machine.
hda1 is the Win98 drive
hdb1 is unused
hdc1 has RedHat 6.0 on it.

I've installed lilo. I can boot to Windoze or Linux.
Here's the problem. I want to remove hdb1 so I can stick it in another
machine. If I go into the BIOS and tell the system that this drive
does not exist then lilo will not boot the system. It displays a bunch
of L1 and L0 characters but won't boot.
hdb1 is not listed in fstab or lilo.conf.

Help!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: The Incredible Shrinking / !  Help!
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:02:30 GMT

On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:17:28 -0500, Jonathan Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I had a similar problem with my Caldera box, disk space shrunk between 5 and
>10% an hour, and in 3 hours my drive was full and the kernal paniced!  First
>reboot into single user/maitence mood! Next run fsck or fsck.ext2 on your /
>partition.  My problem turned out to be a bad drive with about 200 bad
>sectors and several out of date inodes!  Good Luck

I had a similar problem, only slower.  18 months after I installed my
first Slackware distribution (4 years ago), my root filled up.  It
seems that lpd was running, despite the fact that I didn't have a
printer, and it had been logging an "lp0 is out of paper" every
10 seconds for the entire 18 months.

Of course, back then Slackware didn't have log-file cleanup routines
in crontab.

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Subject: Re: getting winmodem to work
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Aug 1999 18:12:06 -0400

Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet) writes:

> > Unfortunately it seems that there really isn't any way of using a 
> > winmodem under Linux until someone starting reverse engineering. 

> Why is this unfortunate?  I mean, is it really worth your time to get
> crappy hardware like this to work under Linux?  Personally, I think it 
> sends the wrong message to the manufacturers and would only
> encourage more of the same.

we'd like to get winmodems working in linux.

first, there are winmodems and winmodems.  parsing AT expressions into
some sort of machine interface modem commands would be a job that a
linux driver could easily perform (given that we had the specs).

second, we already support `inferior' hardware like ide interfaces.
scsi is nicer; ide is cheap, crappy but works.

no, a pox on manufacturers who do not release specs or open source
drivers to their hardware.  the shoddiness of the hardware per se
isn't the real evil.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: Teonanacatl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Ready to TRASH SuSE 6.1
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:07:06 -0600

I thought it was bad way back with RH 5.1  There was virtually no
documentation with that version.  Just the absolute bare minimum.  I did
become an expert in X after about a month trying to get it to work on my
laptop.  

So I thought this reinstall to a new SuSe 6.1 would be a cakewalk.  It
started installing, and I kept running out of drive space.  And I
thought I was cullling down the base install each time.  I thought, so
sweat.  This YaST is the best thing since apple pie!   After three or
four aborted installs, I finally made it though a complete install.  And
of course, Applix was dead.  And I had foregon install on some essential
networking packages to make room for applix.  So my Kppd was nothing
more than an a dead Icon on this cool desktop.  Kept telling me
something about needing to use wvdial, instead.  After  three days
fritzing  with the LAME wvdial, and missing scripts, etc., I just nuked
the drive for about the fifth time.  Started over. Nuked the Applix. 
Put in what was supposed to be essential networking stuff.  Reconfigured
X.  Startx..... Boom, a badass environment.  Clicked on Kppp, and it
POPPED UP!  Quickly configured the settings in the dialogs, clicked
"connect", and I was ON.  Like magic, after the three days of dicking
with wvdial stuff.  And then later that afternoon, I locked myself out
of a gui login.  I had done a ctrl-alt-del to get out of a stuck X
program, and then couldn't do a gui login,  totally locked out.  Almost
nuked the partition again, but a day later, messing with YaST, I was
able to get back in, to a prompt.  Finally figured out what log file
had  been written, cleared it out, and reconfigured to NOT boot into GUI
login  ( real stupid to use the cool looking GUI login).  A day later ,
after doing the RTFM thing, I finally figured out how to configure the
sound on this little laptop of mine. 

I think SuSE is the best thing since sex!!  The manual is Extremely
Thorough, and it was Free, in the package which was only 30.00 for
everything.  After all the hundreds of dollars I've given to m$, I won't
even use the crap, because of security concerns.  And this, ALL OF IT,
only cost me $30.00.  Hard to Believe, thirty bucks, and a kick ass
manual, to boot!  Never got that from Uncle Bill, even at 300~500 a pop
for his crap.  

I think I've settled in to start customizing, but I'm not going too
far.  I have the larger drive, which is the REAL target for my efforts. 
So this past week is just a test run.....?  I'm not sure I can handle
another week.  

So, Gilbert, throw in the towel, if you like.  I think this is one
helluva distro!  In spite of its OBVIOUS shortcomings.  For example. 
When I come in from a cold boot, crank X, and click Kppp, it craps out
immedialely.  EVERY TIME!  but then I merely click it the scond time,
and it works perfect.  Everytime.  Until I reboot the machine.  So
what?  I can live with that until I come accross a patch. This was only
thirty bucks!!!!  And I'm sure the patch is there, somewhere, out in the
ether.  But I'm too excited getting to know this cool new box of mine,
to have time to go out and look for it. I haven't even bothered to open
the manual, except for about five pages relating to sound.   BUT I
WILL!!!

So, good luck, and I hope you find what you're looking for!

Ciao!


-- 
Valentin Guillen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        --------------------
remove capitalized letters to email me
remueve mayusculas para enviarme email

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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can i use linux operating system
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:39:57 -0400

POLESAW wrote:
> 
> can i use linux operating system on my current computer with my present
> software?
> 
> thanks, polesaw

We couldn't even guess without knowing what sort of computer and software
you presently have.

For example, Linux will definitely run on my no-name 4x86 system, but not
on my Z80 system. 

Tell us what you have, and we'll tell you if you can run Linux on it.


-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Subject: Re: Problem with D-Link ethernet adaptor
Date: 12 Aug 1999 23:59:04 GMT

On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:20:55 +0500, TELLIS JACQUELINE 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a D-Link DE220P ethernet adaptor on my Linux box.  How do I setup
>my machine to connect through the network with this card?  I have RH 6.0
>The machine I am using will be used as the network server, provided I can
>get it connected to the network.  There was no problem connecting to NT
>with the same machine from 95, but with RH 6.0, I have no idea what to do.
>
>Please Help
>
>Philip
>
>
If you want to use Linux on a Windows network, you'll need to get samba.
Try going to www.samba.org and downloading the current samba. Samba
makes Linux look like a WindowsNT server. You can use it for both file
and print sharing. I have not yet customized Samba. RedHat 6.0 comes with
Samba 2.0.3. I downloaded 2.0.5a-1 and installed it. I think that I got
it from the Samba site itself.

There is a book available on Samba. It's title is "SAMBA Integrating UNIX
and Windows". Written by John D. Blair. Published by SSC. I think you can
get this from http://www.ssc.com or http://www.fatbrain.com or any of the
major Linux web stores such as http://www.linuxmall.com .

>From my viewpoint, Samba is "non trivial" to install! But, again, I haven't
really tried yet. I have a second computer on order. When it gets here
and I get the ethernet working, then I'll try to learn Samba. 

I hope my rattling on was of some help to you,
John

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: what NIC + Hub do you pros use?
Date: 12 Aug 1999 23:59:07 GMT

[big snip]

I've found a place which sells 3C905B cards for $55. They are X Technologies
at http://www.xtechnologies.com . I have sort-of had business with them.
I won a dual PIII 450 big on ebay from them. I'm expecting it sometime
next week. I think that's what they said. Also, if you're not in a real
big hurry, I'd try http://www.ebay.com . You need to register (free), but
I've seen some very good prices there. If, like me, you're cautious, only
bid for stuff where the seller takes a credit card. I may be missing some
good buys from good people, but I feel safer doing that.

Note - I am NOT affiliated with X Technologies. I can't even recommend them
yet because, as I said, I haven't received my first order. YOU HAVE BEEN
INFORMED!

John

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: 13 Aug 1999 04:29:37 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 7 Aug 1999 04:33:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
>wrote:
>But you'd have a problem if non-coops were outlawed. You aren't
>>against human rights /per se/, you just don't want salvery outlawed.
>
>Last time I checked, nobody was put under the gun to use services of 
>the bank. That's hardly some "slavery".

In modern society, a lawyer is the equivalent of an armed thug and
an army of lawyers is a barbarian horde. Besides, when the hell did
slavers use guns; they used The Law to deal with Their Property and
that's exactly what modern slavers do.

The only organizations that accept government student loans in Canada
are all banks (and I checked) which automatically forces me to deal
with a bank, and not my credit union, if I want to eat. But according
to idiots like you, the threat of starvation is a-okay as a business
practice.
-- 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: 13 Aug 1999 04:22:56 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 7 Aug 1999 03:40:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
>wrote:
>>What's hilarious is that the Labour Theory of Value is implicit in the
>>GDP. The GDP basically measures the total labour invested by the nation
>>and assumes that this is a Good Thing.
>
>GDP measures no such thing. GDP measures output. There are differences

The problem with the labour theory of value, as it's been explained on
this very newsgroup, is that someone who spends an hour weathering down
a pebble because he likes it is assumed to be doing work of equal value
to someone baking bread for others to eat.

The problem with the GDP is that the contribution to it due to rebuilding
houses that were shoddily built because of poor building standards or
the rebuilding of property destroyed because of high crime rates, or the
redundancy due to high divorce rates (think two houses instead of 1; and
all this buying and selling helps the real estate market), all of these
things are assumed to have equal value to genuine production. A high crime
rate helps the GDP in other ways; building prisons, hiring more cops, et
cetera on end. The GDP actually counts social dysfunction and breakdown
as a positive. When politicians say "let's increase the GDP" they usually
mean "let's destroy our nation" because that's a hell of a lot easier to
do than actually helping the nation.

Building nukes, manufacturing guns, polluting the environment then cleaning
it again, hiring child care workers instead of giving parents free time,
all of these help the GDP.

So while you're correct that GDP factors in technology, this is nothing
more than saying that weathering 10 pebbles by spending an hour building
a machine that will do the job is superior to weathering 1 pebble by
hand. It *means* *nothing*!!! And your objection is an idiot red herring.

>of order of magnitude between GDPs of different countries; does it
>mean that rich countries invested 10x more labor? They did not, they
>just exploited working smarter, economy of scale and automation,
>thus _reducing_ amount of labor embedded in a single unit of
>production, not increasing it.
-- 

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From: Ken Deeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATAPI CD-R under linux
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:48:16 GMT


Hi, i'm trying to get a HP CD Writer 7200+ working under redhat 6.0. 

I have a Hitachi DVD-ROM as the first device on the second IDE bus and the
CD-R as the second.

I have installed scsi-generic support, scsi-emulation, and scsi-cdrom
support in the kernel as specified in the various howtos.. 

when the machine boots, i see that the kernel recognizes the CD-R device
as sr8 thru sr15

however, i do no have /dev/ entries for these devices. furthermore, when i
tyr to run MAKEDEV, it claims that it does not know how to handle "sr"

has anyone had any similar problems and has anyone found a resolution?

-ken


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From: Abdullah Ramazanoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Resizing partitions
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:15:24 +0300

Craig Stewart wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me if I can add space to my "/" partition.  It is
> currently only 100M, but I have 2GB of unpartitioned space on my hard
> drive.  I would like to add some of the unused space to the / partition,
> and was wondering if there was a non-destructive way to do this.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Craig Stewart

Hi Craig,

There are utilities to non-destructively resize a partition but they
never guarantee. So you must backup your partition anyway. Once backed
up, why not delete-redefine-restore? (with cpio)
Another way could be moving large directories to unused space as
filesystems (such as /home, /usr, /var etc.)

Regards
-- 
Abdullah Ramazanoglu    [ aramazanoglu AT demirbank DOT com DOT tr ]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: getting winmodem to work
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:21:45 GMT

Johan Kullstam wrote:

>Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet) writes:
>
>> > Unfortunately it seems that there really isn't any way of using a 
>> > winmodem under Linux until someone starting reverse engineering. 
>
>> Why is this unfortunate?  I mean, is it really worth your time to get
>> crappy hardware like this to work under Linux?  Personally, I think it 
>> sends the wrong message to the manufacturers and would only
>> encourage more of the same.
>
>we'd like to get winmodems working in linux.
>
>first, there are winmodems and winmodems.  parsing AT expressions into
>some sort of machine interface modem commands would be a job that a
>linux driver could easily perform (given that we had the specs).
>
>second, we already support `inferior' hardware like ide interfaces.
>scsi is nicer; ide is cheap, crappy but works.
>
>no, a pox on manufacturers who do not release specs or open source
>drivers to their hardware.  the shoddiness of the hardware per se
>isn't the real evil.

I recall something about these efforts on a Linux-related web page,
and I saw it just two or three days ago. It wasn't slashdot or
freshmeat . . . darn, I wish I could remember. It seems like such a
good idea.

Besides which, you often see Linux fan(atic)s decrying Windows
100-percent CPU usage for the simplest of tasks and how efficient
Linux is. Perhaps the spare cycles could be shared to support one of
these cheesey modems?

But I do think the manufacturers are at fault, which may come back to
bite them.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-R under linux
Date: 13 Aug 1999 00:56:33 GMT

Ken Deeter wrote:
> 
> Hi, i'm trying to get a HP CD Writer 7200+ working under redhat 6.0.
> 
> I have a Hitachi DVD-ROM as the first device on the second IDE bus and the
> CD-R as the second.
> 
> I have installed scsi-generic support, scsi-emulation, and scsi-cdrom
> support in the kernel as specified in the various howtos..
> 
> when the machine boots, i see that the kernel recognizes the CD-R device
> as sr8 thru sr15
> 
> however, i do no have /dev/ entries for these devices. furthermore, when i
> tyr to run MAKEDEV, it claims that it does not know how to handle "sr"
> 
> has anyone had any similar problems and has anyone found a resolution?
> 
> -ken

I have a similar situation.  My first device in the second IDE is an
HP 8200i, the second is a NEC ATAPI CDROM.  I followed the directions
in the "CD-Writing HOWTO" and everything worked.  (Well I haven't tested
multi-session writting yet.)  I added the following lines in my 
/etc/rc.d/rc.local file:
    # Start cdrom drives
      modprobe ide-scsi

I also recompiled the kernel to have the IDE CDROM support be a module.

Both CDROMS now look like SCSI devices.  Both work simultaneously, but
I won't write while I'm doing anything else...

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From: Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with SiS Graphics card
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:24:57 -0400

TELLIS JACQUELINE wrote:
> 
> I have a SiS 6125 graphics card.  If I use the setup utility with RH6.0 to
> configure X, it sets it up in 320x200 (or 240) with 256 colours.  While
> this may be okay for DOS games, it's not for a GUI.

My guess is it's doing that because it's failing to autodetect how much
memory is on the card. I think the config utility gives you the
opportunity to specify the amount of memory. If so, try that. If not,
you may have to manually tweak the XF86Config file.

Jon
--
Jon Bloom, KE3Z
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Publications Manager (Software, CD-ROMs and Web site)

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:37:59 -0700
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux mem=80M too long

Jonathan C Busey wrote:
> 
> I can't find a way to append my lilo to include this at boot; how can I
> have this included automatically?

I've heard you add this to /etc/lilo.conf:
append="mem=80M"

Warren Bell
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Viewing bootup messages RH 5.2
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:48:18 -0500

/var/log/messages


Warren Bell wrote:
> 
> What file stores the boot up messages, like:
> 
> starting amd: amd
> starting httpd: httpd
> starting sendmail: sendmail
> etc..
> 
> I'm seeing a couple messages that I want to check out but they're going
> by too fast.
> 
> Warren Bell
> --
> ####### Remove ERASE to reply #######

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From: "Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Phat Linux??
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:00:49 GMT

Has anyone heard of Phat Linux?

www.phatlinux.com

direct quote:
"Phat Linux is a new Linux Distribution. Phat Linux aims to provide an easy
to install Linux distribution. Our distribution has a Windows Based Install.
You no longer need to repartition your hard drive to make room for Linux
because Phat Linux will run off of your Windows 95/98 C-Drive!

   Phat Linux v3.0 comes with lots of popular software, uncluding KDE,
X-Windows, Netscape, and much much more"



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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:29:57 -0400
From: Bill Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.help,alt.os.linux
Subject: Installing Blackdown's jdk 117_v1a on RH 6.0. Please help.


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Hi. I'm having trouble installing the binary version of Blackdown's jdk
117-v1a on my PC, which is running RH Linux 6.0.  When I enter "javac",
the following error message appears:

  /usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so: undefined
  symbol: _dl_symbol_value

I have no clue what I'm doing wrong.   I appreciate the hard work
Blackdown's volunteers have done in porting the jdk to linux.   Any help
will be greatly appreciated !!


Here's some further info:

 - I'm a new linux user.

 - Environment info:
   -
PATH=/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/root/bin

   - CLASSPATH=.:/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/classes.zip
   - JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk117_v1a

 - RH 6.0 is being used.  (Specifically ver. 2.2.5-15)

 - XFree86 is being used. (Specifically, vendor release number 3330)

 - Loader info follows:
      [root@localhost /root]# ldconfig -D 2>&1 | grep ld | tail -1
      ld-linux.so.2 => ld-2.1.1.so

 - To install the jdk, I used file jdk_1.1.7-v1a-glibc-x86.tar.gz.  It
was obtained by ftp directly from an official Blackdown mirror site.

 - libc info follows:
      # ldconfig -D 2>&1 | grep libc | tail -1
      libc.so.6 => libc-2.1.1.so

 - I ran the "java-linux-info.sh" diagnosis script, resulting in ~6.1k
lines of output, containing LOTS of error msgs.
   A few examples:

   open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
   open("/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libc.so.6",
O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
   ...
   write(2, "/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/i586/green_threads/java",
49/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/i586/green_threads/java) = 49
   write(2, ": error in loading shared libraries: ", 37: error in
loading shared libraries: ) = 37
   write(2, "/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so",
55/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so) = 55
   write(2, ": ", 2: )                       = 2
   write(2, "undefined symbol: _dl_symbol_value", 34undefined symbol:
_dl_symbol_value) = 34
   ...

====================================================
Bill Johnston (William F. Johnston)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Home phone: 302-731-1584
Fax  phone: 302-731-1584 (it can discriminate)
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<tt>Hi. I'm having trouble installing the binary version of Blackdown's
jdk 117-v1a on my PC, which is running RH Linux 6.0.&nbsp; When I enter
"javac", the following error message appears:</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp; /usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so:
undefined</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp; symbol: _dl_symbol_value</tt>
<p><tt>I have no clue what I'm doing wrong.&nbsp;&nbsp; I appreciate the
hard work Blackdown's volunteers have done in porting the jdk to linux.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Any help will be greatly appreciated !!</tt>
<br>&nbsp;
<p><tt>Here's some further info:</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- I'm a new linux user.</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- Environment info:</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; - 
PATH=/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/root/bin</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; - CLASSPATH=.:/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/classes.zip</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; - JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk117_v1a</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- RH 6.0 is being used.&nbsp; (Specifically ver. 2.2.5-15)</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- XFree86 is being used. (Specifically, vendor release number
3330)</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- Loader info follows:</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [root@localhost /root]# ldconfig
-D 2>&amp;1 | grep ld | tail -1</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ld-linux.so.2 => ld-2.1.1.so</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- To install the jdk, I used file jdk_1.1.7-v1a-glibc-x86.tar.gz.&nbsp;
It was obtained by ftp directly from an official Blackdown mirror site.</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- libc info follows:</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # ldconfig -D 2>&amp;1 | grep libc
| tail -1</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; libc.so.6 => libc-2.1.1.so</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;- I ran the "java-linux-info.sh" diagnosis script, resulting
in ~6.1k lines of output, containing LOTS of error msgs.</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; A few examples:</tt>
<p><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; open("/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libc.so.6",
O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; ...</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; write(2, "/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/i586/green_threads/java",
49/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/i586/green_threads/java) = 49</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; write(2, ": error in loading shared libraries: ",
37: error in loading shared libraries: ) = 37</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; write(2, 
"/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so",
55/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/lib/i586/green_threads/libjava.so) = 55</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; write(2, ": ", 2: 
)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
= 2</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; write(2, "undefined symbol: _dl_symbol_value", 34undefined
symbol: _dl_symbol_value) = 34</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp; ...</tt>
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