Linux-Misc Digest #382, Volume #27 Sun, 18 Mar 01 04:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Free e-mail account question. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KDE must learn from GNOME ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Tk based alarm clock (Victor Wagner)
Re: updating Palm OS via Linux ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PLPtools compile errors (again) (Raj Rijhwani)
Re: ATI Radeon, XFree86-4.0.2, and hardware acceleration (Markus Kossmann)
Re: pipe to rm? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: pipe to rm? ("Harlan Grove")
Re: partition blues ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: cdrecord fails for audio data (Martigan)
Re: Lilo with RH 7.0 Won't Enter Linux Automatically Anymore ("Meron Lavie")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Free e-mail account question.
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:43:39 GMT
Mordak <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks I signed up with theunixplace.com, it's a tad slow but workable.
> Atleast I'll have the mail access I want.
> Thanks David,
> Mordak
Just in followup about Putty... (Ie. ssh for windows)
The really nice thing about Putty in a situation such as
yours is that it is small enough to keep on a floppy, and
furthermore, it does not need to be installed anywhere. No
shared libs (dll) etc. so you can run it off of that same
floppy. Plus, it has a *very* good xterm emulation, as far
as I have been able to tell... Better then some other
commercial ssh clients for win that I have used...
Kris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE must learn from GNOME
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:58:03 GMT
>> The main point that someone else brought up are accurate I believe. But I
>> think debian also offers a rich experience with multiple version levels of
>> their distribution that one can play with (perhaps even break and learn, fix
>> and try again). I am probably a novice at the real power of things like
>> dpkg and apt; but one thing I have grokked is that apt is truly a remarkable
>> little thing and combine that with almost 4000 packages and 3 different
>> levels, and you have either the setting for a great one person shooter game
>> or one of the great Linux distributions of all time :)
Hmm.. I don't know, so I won't say anything... :-) Honestly, I've
worked on one debian system briefly (my old Sparc Classic) so I don't know
much about the internals. I remember being able to get stuff for the
machine incredibly easily, and adding other things was a painless joy... :-)
> Put together apt-get with RPM and you have a _route_ to _eventually_
> getting many of the merits of Debian.
> But a big chunk of the merit of Debian comes from the fact that there
> are the hundreds of developers responsible for managing those
> thousands of packages. And that doesn't come "freely" or quickly.
> If Red Hat (or Mandrake or SuSE or ...) took on a similar sort of
> "evolutionary process" for the production of their packages, then
> combine _that_ with the dependancy checking of apt, and you'd have
> something comparable. But I suspect that setting up such a process
> would take multiple years...
I don't know... Again, even if the situation went to such that the RPM
system was coupled with the system that is available for debian, we
would have a very nice setup. I am not advocating that debian move to
RPM's, but for the distros that do use RPM's, the debian system, or
something akin to that would be a wonderful improvement. FAIC, why
not have everything go to a debian style package format? I know *that*
will never go across either, so... We can be accept the fact that
neither distro system is going to change, but they might be persuaded
to join forces and couple the two systems in some way...
Just my two bits...
Kris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Tk based alarm clock
Date: 17 Mar 2001 11:53:17 +0300
In comp.os.linux.misc Donal K. Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Victor Wagner wrote:
:> By the way, it would require perl or Tcl interpreter to stay in memory
:> during all your login session, and this seems to much for just an alarm
:> clock.
: It depends on whether you already have an interpreter already present.
: The overhead for a separate interpreter within an already-running
: process is pretty small...
Considering that most of tcl and tk is part of shared library,
I would say that effect of having another tcl/tk script running
is negligible, if I already have another script running as separate
process.
So, if alarm clock app is part of some desktop goodies suite, it
probably will be Ok.
But if it is only Tk app, running on machine, it is another question.
It was precisely the point of my previous letter
--
'Course, that doesn't work when 'a' contains parentheses.
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: updating Palm OS via Linux ??
Date: 18 Mar 2001 03:07:06 GMT
There are several. I use pilot-link, which is command line oriented,
and uses the cradle and a serial port to do g'zinta and g'zouta with
the Palm.
Google will take you there; there are many, like tcl and X interfaces
listed in the Linux PDA HOW-TO. One is a clone of the HotSync for Win.
John
Martin Brown writes:
> I'm thinking of getting a Palm III? that has an upgradable OS. I know
> there is alot of software to *use* the Palm with Linux. I've searched
> freshmeat for Palm software, and AFAICT none of them support upgrading the
> OS.
>
> Looking at the Palm website, there are Windows and Mac programs for
> upgrading the Palm OS, but none for Linux.
>
> Is there a program that runs under Linux to upgrade the Palm OS?
>
> Thank you.
> --
> - Martin J. Brown, Jr. -
> - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
>
> PGP Public Key ID: 0xCED9BD8A Key Server: http://www.keyserver.net/en/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PLPtools compile errors (again)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:42:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have an odd problem - or at least odd as far as I can see.
PLPtools refuses to compile, citing an undefined symbol: socklet_t.
It's quite correct - there's no reference to socklen_t in any of the
system includes. The reason this is odd is that I have, as far as
I am aware, loaded all the includes and indeed everything that
constitutes all the necessities of a full development system.
(It was Slackware 3.5 which loaded a 2.0.3x kernel as a default,
but now runs 2.2.18.)
I've skimmed through the installation CD, and at least one of the
packages on there also contains references to socklen_t, so what the
hell's going on? I installed every package when the system was
first commissioned.
I'd like to know exactly which file/package has gone walkies, if
someone would be so kind. Because of the need to gunzip the packages
before grepping, I haven't figured out a way of listing which
packages contain the references.
--
Raj Rijhwani (umtsb5/16) | This is the voice of the Mysterons...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
http://www.rijhwani.org/raj/ | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Radeon, XFree86-4.0.2, and hardware acceleration
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 05:40:40 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
> If you want 3D acceleration, but don't want to wait till XFree86 4.0.3
> comes out, check out:
[...]
Well, XFree 4.0.3 was released yesterday ( at least you can find it on
ftp.xfree86.org)
--
Markus Kossmann
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Subject: Re: pipe to rm?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:20:38 GMT
> Is there an easy way to remove a list of files generated by a command
> such as locate?
rm `locate hello.txt`
rm $(locate hello.txt)
Vilmos
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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pipe to rm?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:47:48 GMT
Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Is there an easy way to remove a list of files generated by a command
>>such as locate?
>
>rm `locate hello.txt`
>rm $(locate hello.txt)
Just a bit dangerous on case some sadist has created a file named (in
double quotes) "hello.txt * u r screwed". Also not robust if there were
so many files that the shell's line length were exceeded. Better a 3-step
process:
locate whatever > ~/list_of_files_to_erase
vi ~/list_of_files_to_erase # to delete files you're not sure about
xargs -l10 rm < ~/list_of_files_to_erase
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition blues
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:37:22 +0100
> I just installed Debian Linux on my pc which is sharing space
> with Windows95, FreeBSD, and Plan9.
>
> I would like to mount my FreeBSD partition/slice from
> linux, but it doesn't seem to want to work entirely.
> I can mount root but nothing beyond that. I use the
> following to mount it:
>
> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/hda7 /mnt
>
> I presume something is corrupted. What is wrong and can
> it be repaired so that I can grab some files off it?
> Below is some info... I don't know how to interpret it.
>
You have two extended partitions.
It's not an allowed situation.
The partition check still finds them all, and I'm surprised of that.
Imagine what would happen to the numbering, if you were to delete
hda5 and then recreate it. Nice numbering scheme you'd get, that
, no doubt, would lead to a lot of confusion. Anyway, it's not allowed.
If you want to share multiple OS's don't expect any of them to read
such a table correct. I can hardly imagine that BSD doesn't fail.
Eric
>
>
> Partition check:
> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3! hda4 < hda5 hda6 > < hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 >
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 782 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 69 278176+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hda2 124 250 512064 39 Unknown
> /dev/hda3 251 782 2145024 a5 BSD/386
> /dev/hda4 70 123 217728 5 Extended
> /dev/hda5 70 85 64480+ 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hda6 86 123 153184+ 83 Linux
>
> BSD disklabel command (m for help): p
>
> 8 partitions:
> # start end size fstype [fsize bsize cpg]
> a: 251 263* 12* 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16
> b: 263* 281* 17* swap
> c: 251 782 532 unused 0 0
> e: 281* 286* 5* 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16
> f: 286* 782 496* 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16
>
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From: Martigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord fails for audio data
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:42:08 GMT
Parminder Lehal wrote:
> Hello, I am having strange problem with cdrecord. I can write data CDs
> without any problem. But I can not write audio CDs. The problem is buffer
> underrun. When I write data CDs fifo never gets below 90% but for audio
> CDs it stays at about 5-6% and fails .... The cdrecord documentation says
> that if fifo is below certain range then it might be hardware problem. But
> then the same hardware is able to write data CDs.
>
> HELP PLEASE...............................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Parminder
In my experience with "burn'n" when you have this problem some times
slowing the read and burn speed will help.
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From: "Meron Lavie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Lilo with RH 7.0 Won't Enter Linux Automatically Anymore
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:57:54 +0200
Thanks to all for the suggestions.
It turns out that the problem was...
...the "0" key on my keyboard was sticking, and therefore at boot-up LILO
tought it was getting recurrent, irrelevant input and simply ignored it and
"waited" for legitimate input (i.e., pressing ENTER).
:)
--
Meron Lavie
www.redmatch.com - World's Largest Hi-Tech Salary Site
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"Sebastian Wild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kenneth Lafond schrieb:
> >
> > Look in your /etc/lilo.conf file. make sure the values timeout=XX and
> > default=label are correct and present, where XX is the number of secs to
> > timeout to the default, and label is the label for the image you want to
be
> > default.
>
> Set timeout to zero or quote it out to make Lilo boot linux without
> waiting!
>
> Wastl
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