Linux-Misc Digest #382, Volume #20 Fri, 28 May 99 14:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: RedHat 6.0 - C compiler error (Frank Sweetser)
Problems with TV-out on X-windows (Overmars)
Re: awk in vi on Redhat 5.2 (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Rebuilding SRPMs (Johan Kullstam)
But how do you install those programs ??? (root)
Re: Desktop size, XFree, KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation (Bob Keys)
New Linux Resources Site with HOWTO's! ("Dan Nedelko")
Re: Large CD-ROM file errors...? (Villy Kruse)
Re: Netscape and selfdefined MIME types (Colin Watson)
Re: MySQL 3.22.22 confusion... installed from source code... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: fcntl(..,F_SETLK,..) over NFS fails on 2.2. (Andrew Clayton)
hdparm -a default setting under kernel 2.2.x? (Saotome Ranma)
Re: first/second/third world (pspc)
Re: Help: Maple V 5.1 & Suse 6.1 & Seg Fault (Duncan Simpson)
Re: Linux desperately needs filters (Duncan Simpson)
Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6??? (Neil Dodson)
Re: Modem sharing? ("Mitch Appleby")
Re: "Art Format" images? (Jim Osborn)
Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun -- no BSD? (Philip Brown)
Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun -- no BSD? (Michael Pederson)
Re: rescue disk (Frank v Waveren)
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 - C compiler error
Date: 28 May 1999 11:08:32 -0400
A. W. Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
> cannot create executables.
look at the file config.log, it should show a more detailed error message.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5 i586 | at public servers
It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to back it up.
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From: Overmars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with TV-out on X-windows
Date: 28 May 1999 13:37:02 GMT
My X-windows appear nicely on my monitor, but it appears as black &
white on the TV when I connect the TV to the TV-out port of the
display card. I have tried many Modeline settings, but still can't
solve the problem. Does any one know what the problem is?
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: awk in vi on Redhat 5.2
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:06:20 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phil Berry wrote:
>
> Can someone explain what is failing to happen here?
> When I try to edit a DOS file -- ie one with \r\n at the
> end of each line -- in vi I do not see the ^Ms at the end
> of the line, but I know they are there! This is presumably
> a vi issue.
Try "vi -b filename"?
> However, when I use this command at the
> colon prompt:
>
> :%!awk '{sub("\r","");print}'
A quicker way is ":1,$s/^V^M//" (no quotes!). This substitutes nothing
for all Ctrl-M (aka \r) characters from line 1 to line $ (the last
line).
<snip>
> So what is going on? Any help would be appreciated.
See if you have the commands "dos2unix" and "unix2dos".
Mark.
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rebuilding SRPMs
Date: 28 May 1999 09:20:56 -0400
"Thomas Svenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 26-Maj-99 21:59:47, Johan Kullstam wrote about Re: Rebuilding SRPMs
> >"Thomas Svenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Do you have any suggestions about the best default option for K6, Pentium
> >> and Pentium II/III?
>
> >the classic pentium requires some bizzare scheduling stunts.
> >compiling for a pentium target will hurt performance on the
> >p-pro/ii/iii and vice versa. if you want the *same* binary to run on
> >*both* classic pentium and ppro, just compile for i486.
>
> Well, I don't have a Ppro.
i was using ppro as a catch-all for pentium-pro, pentium-ii, celeron
and pentium-iii. they all share the same processor core. apart from
variations in cache size, clock speed and those useless mmx
instructions, they are similar.
> Right now the machines used for Linux is one K6-200 (the first
> model) and a P120. I will probably add other boxes later, and those
> will either be PII/III or K6-x.
> Right now I just use i586 -O2 as optflags for the compiling.
nod.
my only point was that the choice of optimizing for pentium-classic or
optimizing for pentium-pro et al. is an either or choice. you do not
get both at the same time unfortunately.
as long as you don't use -march=pentiumpro to enable new op-codes, the
programs will still run and performance variation is fairly small.
what i am trying to say is this
1) if it's mission critical - compile specifically for the target host
processor. recompile for each machine architechure.
2) it it's *not* mission critical, then it just doesn't matter does
it? just use a happy middle such as i486 target.
there is no point in trying to optimize in two directions at once.
--
johan kullstam
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: But how do you install those programs ???
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:10:36 +0200
Hello all
I'm trying to install an MP3 player. I'm using Linux 2.0.35 that comes
with the Suse 5.3 distribution. I found X11amp, but when I try rpm -i I
get a list of half a dozen things that are missing (something like
dependency error).
I tried the .gz version, but ./configure complains that my gcc cannot
make executables (I already compiled a kernel, so what ???).
Installing new apps under Linux is really a pity. Why don't people make
like Netscape : click on ns-install and that's all ? Fighting around
with glibc, libc5 or libc6 or xyz.1.1-3.beta.0.7-tar.gz makes me fly
away from Linux.
(oh, I come back one week later and try again and again and finally it
takes weeks to get a sound out of the box, compared to the 5 minutes
under Windows ...) Sorry for that, but Linux extremely frustrating.
Thanks anyway if somebody could help me installing an mp3 player
pher
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Desktop size, XFree, KDE
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:08:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
diahedrial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> jik- wrote:
> >
> > Matt O'Toole wrote:
> > >
> > > I want to know how to reaize my desktop.
The default size seems to be
> > > 1024x768. If I run at a lower screen
resolution, I get the usual panning
> > > screen, which I hate. How can I set both
the desktop *and* screen to
> > > 800x600?
> > >
> > > Matt O.
> >
> > You can do that and you can also change the
resolution at runtime with
> > control-alt-+/-. This will not fix the virtual
desktop problem (I hate
> > it too) but you will likely find a resolution
which is the max available
> > and the virtual screen will go away. To
actually fix the problem you
> > need to disable it in /etc/XF86Config.
>
> You can edit the /etc/XF86Config file , (or
/etc/X11/XF86Config), make
> a backup copy first, towards the bottom there is
a line that defines
> the virtual desktop, comment it out with "#"
(without the quotes), or...
On my System this doesent works. I think this is a
version problem. Im using Xfree 3.3.3.1, SuSe 6.1
and my x server always (except in the largest
possible resolution) has a virtual resolution and
i have no "virtual x y" line in my
/etc/XF86Config.
I think the documentation is out of date or there
is a bug in XFree3.3.3.1
Andre.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Keys)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation
Date: 28 May 1999 14:19:46 GMT
Mikhail Teterin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello!
:
: A friend of mine received a working, but too old and slow (by todays
: standards) Sun workstation for free. The disk is dead, but we have a 1Gb
: replacement. The machine has 16Mb of RAM, is by itself diskless -- fits
: entirely in what a casual observer would call monitor. I do not know the
: model :(, but can get it if needed. The disk we have is external. There
: is also an external CD-ROM available. No floppy drives in sight,
: though... The RAM can be increased. A tape drive is a painful option.
You don't say which kind it is, but, with a 1 gig drive, it is probably
a Sparc of some kind. OpenBSD is what I run on my sparcs (wish there were
a FBSD suite.....(:+{{.....). It loads fine, and runs out of the box.
The all in the monitor thing I am thinking is an X terminal, although
you can reset the prom contents at one location and it becomes a regular
Sun box.
: Being a FreeBSD fan/user myself, I'd recommend {Open|Net}BSD for the OS
: (FreeBSD/Sparc is not ready yet), but I know Linux works on Suns too.
: Students can also get cheap (or free?) Solaris, AFAIK...
I have tried Limux on my IPX Sparcs, and it does fine, but, it loads
everything but the kitchen sink from RedHat6. I prefer the leaner
OpenBSD load, usually. I can't comment on Solaris, other than it is
SLOOOOOOW, compared to OpenBSD, or even Linux.
: The requirements are to be stable (of course), have PPP software, and
: run Netscape... I'd prefer to set the disk up at home, using my
: FreeBSD/i386 machines, but I'm not sure I can make it bootable by a Sun
: box.
OpenBSD 2.5 is stable. Linux RH6 is stable.
I load mine with either from a FBSD box with a CD, via ftp. Works fine.
Mount the CD on the FBSD box, and then ftp when it calls for the files.
If the scsi drive is generally OK, the OpenBSD will load fine. IFF there
are formatting errors on the scsi drive, you may need to format it on
something else, low-level (the Sun will do that from Sunos, or do it on
any old PC with a scsi controller and the manufacturer's low-level util.
Get the Solaris Netscape, and load up three libs from Solaris (ld.so,
libc.so.somethingorother [it will tell you which it is], and one other).
Also, move the Netscape nls and its sun libs into the lib tree,
appropriately.
Good luck.
Now back to FBSD.....
Bob Keys
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From: "Dan Nedelko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Linux Resources Site with HOWTO's!
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:03:15 -0400
Hi All!
I've set up a linux area on my little website. Please visit it, I also set
up a web-board, which may be of some use to people.
The site will always be tottaly free (of course!) and I set it up mainly to
be helpful and spead the Linux "word" !!!!
Please visit when you get a chance and help me create a great resources for
newbies and experts alike!!!
http://www.genuinemedia.com - You'll see linux on the top toolbar! Sorry
'bout the frames! =)
--
Danny
======="Dreams are the touchstones of our character." =========
Check out the ever growing:
www.genuinemedia.com
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Large CD-ROM file errors...?
Date: 28 May 1999 16:08:41 +0200
In article <7ilem0$4ke$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Bzzzt ... he burned a single 70MB tarfile, not a whole directory tree.
>(Read the original post.) The issue is that Linux shows a truncated
>(16MB) file instead of the whole thing. Needless to say, Windoze sees
>the CD the way it wrote it.
>
Maybe linux is looking at the file size on a different location.
This is not a joke as the file size and file pointers are stored two
times in each directory record: in big endian and little endian format.
It is not unheard of that these fields don't contain the same values as
they should.
Also, all the file informations are stored an extra time in the separate
parallel directory structure that holds the Joliet directory tree.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,netscape.public.general
Subject: Re: Netscape and selfdefined MIME types
Date: 28 May 1999 14:57:19 GMT
In article <7ilu20$bqd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to define a MIME type for DVI-files under LinuX. However,
> when I click on a link the application (xdvi) starts up but doesn't
> actually open the file. Is there a standardized parameter for program
> calls or does it depend on the program itself ? How do I tell the
> application to open the clicked file ?
Try putting '%s' where you want the filename to go.
--
Colin Watson [cjw44 at cam.ac.uk]
Trinity College, Cambridge, and Computer Science [riva.ucam.org]
"Racism is generally the last refuge of the unimportant."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
redhat.hardware.arch.intel,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.databases
Subject: Re: MySQL 3.22.22 confusion... installed from source code...
Date: 25 May 1999 19:31:54 GMT
In article <01bea6cb$fb649f00$24921e18@obi-wan-kanobe>,
discussion group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
># cd /tmp ; wget
>http://www.mysql.org/Downloads/MySQL-3.22/mysql-3.22.22.tar.gz ; tar -zxvf
>mysql-3.22.22.tar.gz ; cd mysql-3.22.22 ; ./configure ; make ; make install
try: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mysql
HINT: It's sometime usefull to read the readme files that comes with most
source packages. :-)
//GunnarD
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From: Andrew Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: fcntl(..,F_SETLK,..) over NFS fails on 2.2.
Date: 28 May 1999 10:19:29 GMT
I am seeing the same thing, under stock RH6.0 with kernel 2.2.7
and the apropriate nfsv3 patch. This is talking to a sun nfs server.
I am getting the following in my log files each time run the offending
program (SETI@home, in my case)
May 28 11:12:21 b25d-01 kernel: nsm_mon_unmon: rpc failed, status=-93
May 28 11:12:21 b25d-01 kernel: lockd: failed to monitor 152.78.24.6
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Andrew Clayton | E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: hdparm -a default setting under kernel 2.2.x?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Saotome Ranma)
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:16:55 GMT
What is the default sector count for hdparm -a under a 2.2.x kernel?
I know under a 2.0.x kernel it's 8 sectors (4Kb), but not having a 2.2.x
kernel at my disposal currently, I'm at a loss to the answer to this
question.
Any ideas?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pspc)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 28 May 1999 17:25:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Richard Kulisz wrote:
>
>>US, Western Europe and Canada are First World. East Block (including
>>Italy IIRC) used to be Second World but they're now back to Third World.
>
>Er... right.
>
>I always thought:
>
>Old World: Europe and the Mediterranean
>
>New World: The Americas
>
>Third World: Everywhere else
>
>but nowadays people seem to use 'Third World' to describe any
>developing country.
No, it's got nothing to do with the idea of the "New World," which is
how the Americas have been described since Columbus. "Third World" is
a more recent idea. This is a scheme that some academic, whose name I
can't remember at the moment, came up with to describe how he divided
the post-WWII world into various economic blocs. As I recall it was:
First World: Industrialized nations (US, Canada, Western Europe).
Second World: The Communist bloc (Soviet Union and East European
satellites).
Third World: Developing nations (for example, Brazil, India).
Fourth World: Undeveloped nations (for example, Bangladesh).
I guess the original idea was that you had the two powerful economic
blocs, and then these other developing countries which were not
necessarily ideologically committed to either bloc. All that has
survived popular usage is the idea that the phrase "Third World"
denotes a nation where the standard of living is far below that in the
West.
By analogy, I guess that we could denote the various commercial Unices
as "First World" and Microsoft Windows9x/NT as the "Second World."
Linux is then a Third World system, but one rapidly approaching First
World status.
pspc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Help: Maple V 5.1 & Suse 6.1 & Seg Fault
Date: 28 May 1999 15:04:14 GMT
In <7i9efp$4k3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Opitz) writes:
>Hello,
>I use glib Suse 6.1, Xfree86 3.3.3.1 and Maple V 5.1. Installation was
>ok but the follwoing happened:
>(Non-X)
>>maple
>/usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/mapleTTY: can't load library 'libm.so.5'
>So I installed libc-5.4.46bin.tar.gz to
>/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib
>and now it worked.
>But NOW xmaple:
>>xmaple
>/usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/xmaplev5: can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
>When I do : export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/X11R6/lib"
>Then I get a "Segmentation Fault"
>hat can I do ? PLEASE help me !
>Some more info:
>ldd /usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/xmaplev5
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40000000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40048000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4005a000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400ff000)
> libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x4010e000)
> libm.so.5 => not found
> libc.so.5 => not found
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40112000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4011b000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40130000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.1 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)
>lddlibc5 /usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/xmaplev5
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000b000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40053000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40065000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4010a000)
> libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40116000)
> libm.so.5 => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libm.so.5 (0x40119000)
> libc.so.5 => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5 (0x40121000)
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401e1000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401ea000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401ff000)
> ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x402ac000)
>> echo $DISPLAY
>:0.0
>MANY THANKS !
>Martin
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Linux desperately needs filters
Date: 28 May 1999 15:15:32 GMT
In <7igsrk$nst$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<stuff snipped>
>It is a complete waste of time, and compleetly against the filosofy of
>not inventing the wheel over and over, that very talanted word
>processors, like AbiSource, Koffice, Go, GWP, perhaps Maxwell, and
>perhaps also some of the comercials ones, all sit down and make windows
>.doc filters.
Even better would be to contribute to word2x, MSwordview or whatever
patches to write XML. word2x has seperate output stages that make it
attratcive but needs a lot of work on the input side. IF anyone wishes
to help fix this problem or contribute XML output then I am open to
patches. This not only saves re-inventing the wheel put allows people
that need something other than XML to leverage other people's work (esp.
things like binary format understanding input stages).
The only disadvantage is that the code is GPL, except where this is
impossible to an NDA and written by me, so you must document whatever
format your program likes. I can not be made to see this a problem.
If M$ started using XML everybody's life would be a lot easier.
Duncan (-:
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
From: Neil Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6???
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:00:05 GMT
Ed Blosch wrote:
> Please tell me where to get a $2 copy of RH6.0. Infomagic doesn't have
> it out yet, and Redhat wants $79.95. GNU wants $150 to precompile
> everything specifically for my system. Are you saying, if I download it
> myself and purchase a writable CD-ROM, that I can buy the media for
> $2 ? How much are writable CD-ROMs?
>
> I'm serious, where can I get a CD w/RH6.0 on it for $2? I'd gladly pay
> $20, but I can't even find it at that price.
>
> If I send you the money, can you send me one?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
> brian moore wrote in message ...
> >On Tue, 18 May 1999 04:34:19 GMT,
> > Kelson Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hey! Anyone downloads RedHat 6 from its ftp site?
> >> What do you use to download it?
> >> I'm using cuteFTP and it keeps resolving those symbolic links and keep
> >> repeating downloading the same files a couple times!!!
> >> Eg. 'cat' is a link in usr/bin, but it keeps resolving its location and
> >> download the real 'cat' program!!
> >> Can anyone help me?? Thanks
> >
> >Yes: either download the iso9660 image or spend the $2 on a CD.
> >
> >--
> >Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
> > Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
> > Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary
> chain."
> > Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi
> Postmaster
I paid $1.95 for REDHAT 6.0 (2 CD ROMS) from LinuxCentral. I ordered over
the net to the same site dot com.
Neil
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From: "Mitch Appleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Modem sharing?
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:25:43 -0500
I found this modem sharing example at
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Windows-Modem-Sharing.html . It is a
bit beyond my scope, but may be what you're looking for.
Mitch Appleby
Samuel AU wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Is it possible to share a modem in a Linux base network? If yes, how
>to?
>Thanks in advance.
>Samuel
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Osborn)
Subject: Re: "Art Format" images?
Date: 28 May 1999 16:35:32 GMT
Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>run `strings foo.art | head`
Omitting the backquotes (see below for why) we get:
40w.
J}NX
,_jng
qn^8
F(*
dN0&HL24$fjB
rhxf
Qpk.
j`sR%
*95yQ
Does that seem useful, help point to a Linux app that might
understand the .art format? I suspect this is another Microsoft
proprietary format, possibly a fractal compression format like
the one they licensed from Iterated Systems for Encarta. That
would explain the small size of these files, assuming they're
reasonable size images.
Backquotes are a shell directive to "run the command within the
backquotes, and deliver that command's output here." They're
generally only useful in conjunction with other commands. So,
run `strings foo.art | head`
produces:
bash: run: command not found
and
`strings foo.art | head`
produces:
bash: 40w.: command not found
--
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun -- no BSD?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 1999 17:44:51 GMT
On 28 May 1999 14:33:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>...
>I just posted a high rating of OpenBSD 2.5 on my Sparcs. Lean, mean and
>runs like a striped arsed ape, even on 12 meg ram running X.
that is too vague. say WHAT you are running now.
For example, I bet you're not run any of:
fvwm
CDE
emacs
netscape
[.. other popular, large apps]
saying "runs well" is misleading, without giving an idea of the limitations.
I could set up solaris on the same box with no graphics, and claim it
"runs well" :->
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Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun -- no BSD?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Pederson)
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:48:27 GMT
In article <1wx33.10520$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mikhail Teterin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <eri33.10405$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mikhail Teterin) writes:
[...]
>The responses so far:
>
> . Solaris would be way too slow on this machine (perhaps, some
> tweaking is possible?)
Slowloris?
> . Linux (RedHat) is happy, but may need tweaking to run Netscape
> successfully
I haven't tried Linux on a Sparc; it's been okay on a PowerBook for me
but not exactly stable.
> . not a word from the *BSD world :( Did I make a mistake of
> mentioning Open and Net BSDs in one sentence?
Nope, I just haven't checked Usenet for a few days; I've been getting
a workstation set up for my mother (it'll be her first computer).
>=The requirements are to be stable (of course), have PPP software, and
>=run Netscape... I'd prefer to set the disk up at home, using my
>=FreeBSD/i386 machines, but I'm not sure I can make it bootable by a Sun
>=box.
>
>Seems, like Linux is going to be the choice... Oh, well...
I've got a pair of Sparc IPC boxen that have NetBSD 1.4 installed at
the moment - they've been doing okay so far, but X has been a tad
touchy. (I see Xsun.core appear way too often.)
The older of the two boxen (galaxy) started out with NetBSD 1.3.2,
upgraded to 1.3.3 and was rock solid with both of those versions
(it only went down for hardware and/or kernel changes). It's
running 1.4 now with a serial console. When it had its own display,
and was running X, I thought it performed well with its 48 Mbytes.
The other box (constellation) is still in the setup phase, I've
been playing^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hworking with getting everything set up
and running, but given the current situation with X, it'll probably
be running NetBSD 1.3.3 (or 1.4.1, depending) when I introduce my
mother to it. :-)
Both Netscape Communicator and Navigator are in the NetBSD packages
collection (for i386 and Sparc). The Sparc version requires some
sunos libraries to install and run though (see compat_sunos(8)).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank v Waveren)
Subject: Re: rescue disk
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:59:27 GMT
Linux has no "system files" as such, except for maybe everything in /boot
You should probably back up at least /etc too, and depending on what you're
running, some other things too...
It should be quite easy to write a script to write these to [floppies|cdrom|tape].
However, if you want to get your system back quickly after problems I'd advise
just making a complete image of your hd every now and again.
The nice thing about linux is that you hardly ever need your backup... Except
when you thought you where in /usr/local/unimportant and did a rm -rf *, and
then noticed you'd just cd d to / :-)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel TONG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I believe there must be way (as in NT) to back up the system files of
> my RH52 and in case of failure have it retrieved.
>
> Would anyone advise me as to where to find the info' required.
>
> Any suggestion would be appreciated.
>
> Daniel at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Toronto
>
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