Linux-Misc Digest #768, Volume #19 Tue, 6 Apr 99 23:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help needed for my all kinds of "terminal" running on DataExpert (David Pace)
Re: OT tidbits (was:Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) - origin of dollar sign) (Johan
Kullstam)
Re: Need Sound Card Suggestions (David Fox)
Re: www.thelinuxstore.com (whew!) (RCW)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LILO and IDE drive > 1024 cyls ("Spud")
Re: HD sleeping?! (Michael Wilms)
Re: message in /var/log/messages (Bob Tennent)
Re: Modest proposal, (was: Re: hacked /bin/login: can't replace it) (Walter B
Kulecz, PhD)
Whats the best mixer to use with OSSFree (RH 5.2, 2.2.5) (Stephen Anthony)
Redhat 6.0 ("Nine")
Re: WARNING!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
4 button mouse (Arcady Genkin)
Is Linux safe from viruses like Melissa ? ("Efi Merdler")
Need information about newsreading software for Linux ("Jeremy Reimer")
Re: Who is connected to my system ("No Spam")
Parallel port problems after upgrading to 2.2.5 (Victor Lam)
Re: Help - newbie wishing to install RHL 5.2 on win95 System (Andrew)
Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform" (Christopher Browne)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Christopher Browne)
Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux (Christopher Browne)
Re: timezone and daylight savings problem (Christopher Browne)
Re: Help with .tar.gz ("Peter Caffin")
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From: David Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Help needed for my all kinds of "terminal" running on DataExpert
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:33:23 -0400
Bill Chen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a newbie for linux. I installed RedHat 5.2 one month ago. My video card
> is DataExpert's DSV5357 with 4M SGRAM and the resolution I selected is
> 1024X768. The problems I met are:
> 1. The card can't work under 24bpp.
> 2. Under 16bpp the X works fine except all kinds of "Terminal" applications.
> I tried xterm, gnome-terminal, KDE terminal. All of them had the same
> problem. The "terminal" programs caused the whole system hang for a long
> time, e.g, I list the directory, the files are displayed line by line in a
> very very slow speed. At this time the whole system almost hang, even the
> mouse can't be moved and "ctl+alt+backspace" doesn't work. Sometimes the
> display inside the "terminal" overlapped.
> 3. If I select 8bpp, everything works fine include the "terminals".
>
> If someone has any idea of these problems or had the same experience as
> mine, please help!!!
>
> Thanks ahead! :-)
>
> Bill
It sounds to me that the card does not have enough memory to support the
higher colour counts (unless of course if you set the pixels down to 800x600;
then I bet that 16 or 24 will work).
--
Free commodity/stock graphing software
and Linux links at http://www.daveware.com
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: OT tidbits (was:Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) - origin of dollar sign)
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 Apr 1999 19:24:26 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Sira) writes:
>
> >Worst of all for this thread in the Unix newsgroups, I know that I've heard
> >some reasonable explanation of why Bourne used a dollar sign, and now I
> >can't remember it. There was no companion good explanation for the percent
> >sign in the C-shell, but then there's no good explanation for the C-shell.
> >I strongly suspect they're both just used because they look neat.
>
> Hmm, when I loaded up V6 in DEC's PDP/11 emulator, the shell presented
> a "%" prompt; this was before either the Bourne or C-Shell had been
> written.
on DEC PDP-10 running TOPS-20 you had a @ as the normal user prompt
and a $ for the superuser. i have no idea if these are related.
most people want some sort of symbol for a prompt. there are only so
many ascii symbols.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Need Sound Card Suggestions
Date: 06 Apr 1999 05:24:39 -0700
How is the sound quality? I think I tried one of those and it sounded
like an AM radio.
"Derek Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I use the creative ensoniq AudioPCI es1371 and it only cost around 30 bucks
> with rebate and had absolutley no prob setting it up.
> Steve Orosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >Hi,
> > I am going to buy a new sound card for my computer and I would like
> >to get one that supports Linux and Windows. So far the only card that
> >I've liked so far is the SoundBlaster 128PCI. However I'm not sure if
> >it is supported in Linux. If anyone can help me in choosing a good
> >soundcard for my computer. So if anyone has any suggestions for a PCI
> >soundcard PLEASE let me know. I would prefer a PCI sound card but if
> >there are some good ISA soundcards also tell me about them.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: remove@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (RCW)
Subject: Re: www.thelinuxstore.com (whew!)
Reply-To: remove@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:22:24 GMT
>You're right, it is nonsense. You owe me a thousand bones for
>reading this. Just 'cause it's in fine print don't make it binding.
Absolutely true. Just because they print it, it won't necessarily
stand up in court. However, doesn't it bother you that they are low
enough to print that stuff in the first place?
RCW
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:34:38 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
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ATI Rage series of Video Cards work excellent with the Mach64 XFree86
Server. Im using an 8meg ATI Rage Pro on one of my systems right now.
arthur
http://www.linuxberg.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
> around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
> horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
> worked with Linux. My prequisites:
>
> 400mhz CPU
> 96mb RAM
> 8mb video card
> 19" monitor
> sound card, speakers
> 4GB hard drive
> CD-ROM
>
> Bonuses:
> DVD
> Color printer
> Tape backup
> Dual CPUs
>
> Notes:
> I don't play video games, so 3D video doesn't mean anything to me.
> I'm open to build-my-own or buying from Micron, Gateway, Dell, etc.
>
> Best regards,
> Ed
>
> Q: Why do PCs have a reset button on the front?
> A: Because they are expected to run Microsoft operating systems.
--
Arthur H. Johnson II Linuxberg Webmaster
Tucows International [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ATI Rage series of Video Cards work excellent with the Mach64 XFree86
Server. Im using an 8meg ATI Rage Pro on one of my systems right
now.
<p>arthur
<br><A HREF="http://www.linuxberg.com">http://www.linuxberg.com</A>
<p>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read:
my wife) to spend
<br>around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
<br>horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
<br>worked with Linux. My prequisites:
<p>400mhz CPU
<br>96mb RAM
<br>8mb video card
<br>19" monitor
<br>sound card, speakers
<br>4GB hard drive
<br>CD-ROM
<p>Bonuses:
<br>DVD
<br>Color printer
<br>Tape backup
<br>Dual CPUs
<p>Notes:
<br>I don't play video games, so 3D video doesn't mean anything to me.
<br>I'm open to build-my-own or buying from Micron, Gateway, Dell, etc.
<p>Best regards,
<br>Ed
<p> Q: Why do PCs have a reset button on the front?
<br> A: Because they are expected to run Microsoft
operating systems.</blockquote>
<pre>--
Arthur H. Johnson
II
Linuxberg Webmaster
Tucows
International
[EMAIL PROTECTED]</pre>
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO and IDE drive > 1024 cyls
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:40:24 GMT
Put the following work, on a line by itself, in your lilo.conf:
linear
>I've installed Linux on an IBM ValuePoint 486-100 which has a 540MB
>IDE drive. It boots fine from diskette, but when I boot from the
>hard drive LILO just reports "LI", indicating a geometry problem
>(more than 1024 cylinders).
>
>Fdisk reports that my /dev/hda has 16 heads, 63 sectors, and 1049
>cylinders. I partitioned it so the /dev/hda1 Linux native partition
>is the first 930 cylinders and the /dev/hda2 swap partition is the
>remaining 119 cylinders.
>
>What changes are needed to the lilo.conf (and fstab?) files created
>by my Red Hat 5.2 installation?
>
> Alan in San Jose
>
>
>--
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sysop, PC-TIE BBS, San Jose, CA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Wilms)
Subject: Re: HD sleeping?!
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:29:22 +0200
I guess it's an internal job of the hard drive. It's called 'thermal
calibration'.
I've never heard that it might be possible to suppress it...
Bye,
Michael
Kiki schrieb:
>
> Hi!
> I have my Linux box up 24 hours a day, and during the night I notice it
> accessing my hard drive often, sometimes a soon as every 10 minutes.
> Is there any way to find out what processes are doing that? I want to set
> hard drive on my Linux box sleep all night! But I can not shut down Linux
> box because I want to use "crond". Any idea how to sleep my hard disk for
> all night?
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0009
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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: message in /var/log/messages
Date: 7 Apr 1999 00:16:13 GMT
On 6 Apr 1999 23:51:33 GMT, Howard Mann wrote:
>
>Here is an excerpt from my /var/log/messages :
>
>
>Apr 5 20:20:27 localhost -- MARK --
>Apr 5 20:40:27 localhost -- MARK --
>Apr 5 21:00:27 localhost -- MARK --
>Apr 5 21:20:27 localhost -- MARK --
>Apr 5 21:40:28 localhost -- MARK --
>
>This has recently appeared. Does anyone know what this might mean?
>
>( I obviously do not know what the 20 min periodicity implies )
>
I'm getting it too. I've been assuming it's a 2.2.4 thing but I really
have no idea.
Bob T.
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From: killspam@wkulecz$pam$uck$.bigfoot.com (Walter B Kulecz, PhD)
Subject: Re: Modest proposal, (was: Re: hacked /bin/login: can't replace it)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:30:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
wrote:
>killspam@wkulecz$pam$uck$.bigfoot.com (Walter B Kulecz, PhD) wrote:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF
> Stevens) wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>chattr -i -a /bin/login
>>>
>>>Norman
>>
>>I've made this suggestion before but have never had it fall on the
>>right ears to even start a discussion.
>>
>>Adding a seperate password to the immutable attribute in the kernel
>>file system code (or wherever it resides) would go a long ways torward
>>shutting down the script kids.
>
>Where would you put the password? What provisions would you have
>for changing it? If the cracker got hold of this password and
>changed it you would have no way of recovering your system.
I never said I'd worked out all the details but the basic idea is it
would be an internal kernel private data structure that is set at
install time and only changable if in single user mode (run level 1)
If you forgot the chattr password you'd have to shutdown to single
user mode which means no networking thus must be done from a
physically secure console.
>>If I remember correctly from my BDSI days, they had an immutable
>>attribute that could only be changed when in single user mode. In
>>practice, this was too severe to be much help as it kills the ability
>>to do remote updates.
>
>Does the kernel know about single user mode? An alternative could
>be to have something like securetty which limits who can manipulate
>the immutable flag.
>
>Personally I can't see any valid reason for using the immutable
>attribute on files owned by root. It provides no additional
>security since root can always override it using the chattr
>command, and for non-root users its no different from not
>having the write permission to the file.
You've missed the whole point. A remote cracker has got a root shell
by exploiting a newly found bug. As root he can change and do
anything. If system binaries like login, loggers, etc are "immutable"
and he needs a password to change the immutable status you'd have a
last line of defense against the initial (perhaps newly discovered)
exploit which will still be logged because the immuatable attribute
prevents this unauthorized "root" from covering his tracks.
You are correct in that the way it is presently implimented it is
indeed useless. In fact most folks first learn of its existance after
they've been cracked and wonder what the cracker did that prevents
removing his trojans and backdoors.
A later followup post has suggested that the 2.2 kernel designers are
thinking along these lines and what could be the appropiate "hooks"
may already be in place.
--wally.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Anthony)
Subject: Whats the best mixer to use with OSSFree (RH 5.2, 2.2.5)
Date: 7 Apr 1999 00:39:51 GMT
The mixer I use now (aumix) has the annoying habit of losing/reseting the mixer
settings at random. I can start one application tha uses sound, and when I quit it
and start another, the sounds are reset (and usually much louder).
I was playing with older versions of ALSA, and it has a program that locks the
sound at a certain level and never resets it (alsactl). However, it doesn't
support the EMU8K chip on my SB AWE32. The newer versions of ALSA support this
chip, but I can't get it to compile (see another post on that subject) :<
Please, someone help me get reliable sound that doesn't reset to different levels
after exiting programs !!
Thanks,
Steve
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From: "Nine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 6.0
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:47:08 GMT
When will Redhat 6.0 be available for download?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WARNING!!
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:56:11 +0100
G�ran Philipson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> If you have a DOS mounted filesystem beware to use the move
> command (mv) from Linux to DOS, that can destroy the DOS file
> system, especially if the receiving system is NT.
>
> Hope my message don't get drowned with all other news.
>
> Regards G�ran
Funny, works just fine on my system. I tend to use the dos partition as
temporary storage, scratch/backup space & download space, whilst looking
forward to when I can completly re-partition - or buy a second HD.
--
____________________________________________________________________
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | It is not 'who' you are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | But who you are becoming.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Goethe
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: 4 button mouse
From: Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:07:54 GMT
Hi all:
I'm using a Logitech trackball on PS/2. It has 4 buttons. Can I make
use of the fourth one? XF86Setup allows me to specify 4 or 5 buttons,
but clicking my fourth one doesn't produce any effect.
BTW, I'm using MouseManPS/2 (or whatever the correct name is) driver.
--
Arcady Genkin
"I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood..." - GsYDE
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From: "Efi Merdler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is Linux safe from viruses like Melissa ?
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:19:25 +0300
Hi
I know that Melissa is a macro virus,therefore, it will not run under
Linux,however ,we all know that sooner or later a virus will attack the
Linux community, is the OS protected ?
I read an article written by John C. Dvorak on PCMagazine
http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/insites/dvorak/jd.htm
he wrote:
"...The real culprit here is Microsoft. The operating system has never been
made virus-proof, and allowing macro capabilities in Word and Excel invites
destructive code..."
Is Linux virus-proof because if not, it is just a matter of time and then
Linux will get a very bad publicity.
Thank you for reading
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From: "Jeremy Reimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,alt.fan.jeremy-reimer
Subject: Need information about newsreading software for Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:02:41 GMT
I just installed Red Hat Linux and KDE a couple of days ago, and I'm dual
booting with Win98 and loving it.
One question though: is there anywhere I could get a newsreader that acts
like Outlook Express for Win98? Because I really miss that, and in fact I
often boot into Windows just to use it. I don't like character mode
newsreaders, I don't want to use some giant editor with ten zillion
commands, I want a virtual clone of Outlook Express, but for Linux. The
closest I've come is Netscape Collabra, but it annoys me for various reasons
(partly the hatred I still hold for Netscape because of their AOL virus, but
there are other reasons)
These are the things I love about Outlook Express:
- read items faint, unread items bold. Best visual representation I've
seen. Much better than looking for little green or red lights.
- Auto expanding of threads.
- Mousewheel support everywhere. Hey, Star Office has this, why can't all
Linux programs?
- Three-window format (tiled)- newsgroups, message list, message. It's all
possible and on a 800x600 desktop on top of that. I don't like huge windows
that waste space.
If anyone knows of something that provides these, I'll be eternally
grateful.
--
----
Jeremy Reimer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/jreimeris
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From: "No Spam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is connected to my system
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:58:57 GMT
> > You could try netstat -a -n , but that will only show hostnames too.
>
> I forgot to mention I use netstat too, but anyway, I'll try these switches
Actually those switches are closer to what I wanted, but still not enough!
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Lam)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Parallel port problems after upgrading to 2.2.5
Date: 6 Apr 1999 19:06:24 -0700
Hi,
I just recently upgraded my kernel from 2.0.36 to 2.2.5.
This has caused a problem with my parallel port. I can still
print in windows, but when I try to send ASCII to the printer
port from within printtool, I get an error along with the
explanation "couldn't write file '/dev/lp1': no such device."
The following lines are part of the output from dmesg:
lp: driver loaded but no devices found
request_module[parport_lowlevel]: Root fs not mounted
When I try cat-ing something directly to /dev/lp1, I get:
bash: /dev/lp1: No such device
and the same happens when I cat to lp0 or lp2.
I have parallel printer support compiled into the kernel,
and have tried both enabling and disabling plug and play
support.
I'm aware that I may have to change lp1 to lp0 in /etc/printcap,
but there seems to be a separate problem with the parallel port.
I've seen a few posts from people with the same problem but didn't
find a workaround for this. Apologies if I overlooked it.
Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Victor Lam
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From: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help - newbie wishing to install RHL 5.2 on win95 System
Date: 7 Apr 1999 01:32:06 GMT
Chet,
Hopefully you check back here because neither my ISP or yahoo mail can
find either nospam.llucent.com or llucent.com to reply to your email.
Here is the body of what I replied:
> > Chet,
> >
> > According to the RedHat installation manual (I
> have
> > not tried this method),
> > boot your computer in MS-DOS mode (it won't work
> > from a dos window inside
> > windows. Do the following with the CD in your
> drive
> > (Note: substitute your
> > cdrom drive letter for D in this example):
> >
> > C:\> d:
> > D:> cd \dosutils
> > D:>dosutils> autoboot.bat
> >
> > That should start the installation program off the
> > CD for you. Good Luck!
> >
> > Andrew
Chet Vora wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am thinking of installing Linux on my Windows95 system. I have four
2.1 Gig
> partitions (C,D,E and F) on my 8 GB Western dig HDD and I have Win95 on
C,D &E.
> I am planning to install Linux on the 4th one ie. F.
> I am a relatively new to the installation procedure(s) for Linux
coexisting with
> another OS (I have previously worked with stand-alone Linux system once)
> especially with the 8.4 GB hdd . Is there some things I need to take
care of
> before I attempt to install Linux ??
> Is there a site where I could find the necessary documentation
especially for
> the 8.4 GB HDD case ?I would *REALLY* appreciate pointers/tips/URL in
this
> regard. I am a little bit apprehensive about this as I don't want to
lose data
> on my other drives.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance,
> Chet Vora
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:28:21 GMT
On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 04:51:13 -0400, G. Sumner Hayes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>arena, amaya, grail, surfit, tkwww, opera, netscape, chimera, xmosaic,
>netscape, lynx, emacs-w3, kfm, gnome-helper, gzilla, IE, cello,
>spry mosaic, redbaron, visage-web
>
>Any others worth mentioning?
<http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unk6/closure/> Closure ; written in
Common Lisp;
<http://members.xoom.com/apostle1> Skate.
--
"What is the purpose of a person acquiring perfect French pronunciation
if they have nothing of value to say in any language?" -- Walter Ong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/htmlbrowsers.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:28:22 GMT
On Fri, 02 Apr 1999 18:43:53 +1200, Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>wizard wrote:
>> The other key item that everyone overlooks is the large amount
>> of effort the people at RedHat, Suse and others put into driver
>> development. If that does add value I don't know what does.
>>
>This is a fiction. Redhat do *not* develop drivers.
Correct, and anyone who suggests such is *obviously* being dishonest.
*Red Hat Software* does not develop drivers. Instead, they pay
Precision Insight money to develop drivers. They pay Stephen Tweedy to
develop drivers. They pay Alan Cox to develop drivers.
In contrast, SuSE pays Dirk Hoendel to develop drivers.
Presumably any value that people consider that they accrue from these
efforts are fictional.
--
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The
phrase was "Divide and conquer" not "Divide and cock up"
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:28:24 GMT
On 3 Apr 1999 02:32:56 GMT, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:37:08 +0200,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yes an No. There is a open source Version called mozilla. But it hasn't
>> the full functionality and it needs motif to compile. And I don't have
>> motif.
>
>Actually, that's no longer true.
>
>Mozilla works fine with GTK+ and is now, in fact, the standard UI for
>Unix. See http://www.mozilla.org/unix/ for details. (As much as I
>respect JWZ, I was glad to see him proven wrong on that point. GTK is
>much more attractive than Motif and the chances of bug fixes in GTK are
>much better -- even JWZ was known to complain about all the code in
>Mozilla that was to work around Motif bugs.)
>
>On my list of things to do this weekend is to play with the latest
>snapshots: Mozilla is now in the stage where developers are expected to
>use it for their regular web-browsing needs, so stability and usefulness
>should be much improved over earlier releases.
>
>NGLayout is sypposed to be quite good (as in small, fast, stable and
>standards-compliant), so I'll be trying it out when I get time to
>download it and clean space off my hard drive. :)
I think you'll find that "works fine" and "M3" don't work very well in
the same sentence.
Yes, Mozilla development is now GTK-based.
If you take the latest available edition, which happens to be the *only*
released edition, you'll find that it is *very* slow and crashes a lot.
Note also that jwz is no longer involved with Mozilla; he resigned from
AOL on April 1st.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: timezone and daylight savings problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 02:28:28 GMT
On 05 Apr 1999 13:04:27 -0400, Adam P. Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I run date, it prints
>Mon Apr 5 12:52:47 EDT 1999
>
>Notice that it's April 5, yet it still says it's daylight savings
>time. Shouldn't the timezone be EST?
>
>I have RedHat 5.0, with glibc upgraded to glibc-2.0.7-29, on a
>Pentium. /etc/localtime points to the correct timezone.
>
>$ ls -l /etc/localtime
>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Apr 5 00:53 /etc/localtime ->
>../usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern
>
>Can anyone tell me why the system still thinks the timezone is EDT
>instead of EST? Thank you.
Because you're in the Eastern time zone, where the standard time is
presently correctly expressed as Eastern Daylight Time, aka EDT?
Your system is doing the right thing.
--
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home". -- Ken
Olson, Pres. and founder of Digital Equipment Corp. 1977
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From: "Peter Caffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with .tar.gz
Date: 7 Apr 1999 02:07:09 GMT
Henry Ostrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I asked for help. And I got it about .tar.gz Now how do I cancel the
> message?
To the newsgroup? Don't worry about it. It will expire from the
newsgroups in time (anywhere from a week to a month, depending on the site).
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