Linux-Misc Digest #768, Volume #23 Mon, 6 Mar 00 17:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Multiple CPU (B)
Lilo und Windows2000 (Benjamin Henne)
Linux Viewlet Project ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Salary? (JCA)
What's the linux equivalent of Outlook Express or Pegasus Mail? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
fetchmail keep question (sleddog)
Re: SMP Process Control (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Linux System (----Orp----)
Re: Xircom "RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem56": Is it supported (----Orp----)
What's the linux equivalent of Outlook Express and Pegasus Mail? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
New Linux Solutions Provider ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
New Linux Solutions Provider ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
crazy fdisk output (Nico Beuermann)
section "screen", subsection "display" (Manuel Rojas)
global env. variables for tcsh ("Jason A. Marshall")
Re: SuSE 6.3 : Gnome Display Manager gdm not starting (Ruediger)
Re: Parallel Scanner under Linux??? (Ruediger)
Re: Salary? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple CPU
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:30:26 GMT
Jose Gerstl wrote:
>
> Is there any linux kernel that can take advantage of motherboards with
> several CPU (for instance two).
>
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Most linux distributions come with a kernal already compile foe mulitple
CPU's...or SMP...i KNow that OPen Linux does...
Brent
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From: Benjamin Henne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo und Windows2000
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:46:45 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hallo
habe soeben versucht auf Meinem PC (Win2000 und Linux) neu zu
konfiguriere.
Doch wenn ich ich Lilo installieren lasse auf Diskette und er zum
Boot-Eintrag von Win2000 kommt, serviert Lilo als Ausgabe:
Partitionseintrag nciht gefunden.
Kann LiLo Win2000 nicht booten ?!?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Viewlet Project
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:46:03 GMT
I'm writing to ask you to be part of the Linux Viewlet Project,
http://www.teach2earn.com/linux/.
I'm Robin Sweeney, and I'm the Community Manager for Qarbon.com. We've
got a free software tool that creates animated demos and HOWTOs, called
Viewlets. Viewlets are tiny Java applets that show someone how to use
software or operating systems.
We're creating the Linux Viewlet Project so we can provide Viewlets and
the unique help they can offer to the Linux community, and we'd like to
ask you to be part of it. Viewlets are better than free - we pay
authors and webmasters for creating and using Viewlets. We share the ad
banner revenue that is generated whenever a Viewlet is seen.
There are two ways to participate. First, add Viewlets to your site.
They're a great way to provide users with help, particularly newer
users. Adding Viewlets to your site is easy � it�s just a matter of
adding a few lines of HTML code, no CGI or server side programming.
Second, make your own Viewlets! We've got a list of the easy steps to
become a Viewlet author and unassigned topics at
http://www.teach2earn.com/linux/lvp_subjects.html.
We've got a mailing list for the Linux Viewlet Project. Send an email
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to join. If you have any other questions?
Please feel free to send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!
Robin Sweeney
Community Manager, Qarbon.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 12:55:26 -0800
"Jos� Luis Domingo" wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try somewhere in
> >
> > $45000 <= salary <= $75000
> >
> > Pretty wide range, but it seems about right, from what I know, which
> > isn't much :-D
> >
> Just in case someone finds it interesting...
>
> Here in Spain, if you have just finished your career and ask for a
> salary starting at 7M pesetas ($45K) you will probably end in a mental
> institution.
>
As someone who has been there I can vouchsafe for that.
>
> I finished my career in telco's less than a year ago, and what I've been
> told by
> colleagues the same age is that the starting salary is around 3M pesetas
> ($18K). It seems we have to go US or UK to get a decent salary...
>
The problem is that in Europe technical people are at the bottom of the
totem pole, no matter how good they are. The only place I know of where
that doesn't necessarily happen is the US. The result: the US produces
the best software in the world, and any good European software is developed
by universities, not by private companies.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What's the linux equivalent of Outlook Express or Pegasus Mail?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:03:57 GMT
Hello all,
linux (I have installed three different distributions on my PC) is
something I love, about which I have learned a lot over the past year
or so.
I have a single problem though that I don't seem too find a solution
for, no matter how hard I have been looking around.....
I would like to install a simple program that does what e-mail clients
such as Outlook Express and Pegasus Mail used to do for me with Win95,
that is, download and send e-mail messages utilizing several pop3/smtp
servers. I do not intend to have my own server installed in my linux
box, but just a simple client that allows me to use other external
servers to handle my mail. People have suggested that I install
fetchmail for downloading pop3 and something similar to sendmail for
handling smtp.
My question is, isn't there a less complicated way to achieve what I
want? I mean, I can easily send smtp messages by telnetting to a smtp
server and typing a few lines. Downloading pop3 messages should be even
simpler than that, so why isn't there a simple client I can easily
install, simple to use, designed to do just that as easily as any Win95
e-mail client does it?
Thank you for your help,
nik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sleddog)
Subject: fetchmail keep question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:17:08 GMT
I use fetchmail on two machines -- home and office -- to poll three pop
mail accounts. At the office in my .fetchmailrc I use the -k option for
each server to keep the mail on the server. Then at home I let fetchmail
get the same mail and remove the copy from the server.
But at the office, fetchmail keeps re-fetching messages that have been
'kept' over and over -- so I get multiple copies of the same mail. From
reading the man page it seems it should ignore mail already seen, unless
the -a option is used. I am *not* using the -a option.
How do I get fetchmail to leave mail on the server but not re-fetch the
same mail every time it runs?
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMP Process Control
Date: 06 Mar 2000 11:24:08 -0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian) wrote:
>On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:26:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>How can I start a job so that it takes up more CPU time and
>>finishes faster?
>
>man nice (but that's not exactly what you want). When you want
>to compile something with 'make', there's a good switch: -jn
>The 'n' stands for the amount of threads make should
>create. So, if you compile your kernel, try this:
>make -j3 bzImage
>The number of threads recommended is "Amount of your CPUs"+1, ie. 3.
Due to the way the kernel makefile is configured, it is slightly
more productive to run it like this,
make -j2 MAKE="make -j4" bzImage
This isn't exactly going to further reduce compile time by any
great amount. :-) In either case the 'user' time remains about
the same as without the -j option, but the the 'real' time drops
to less that 60% when the -j option is used. It differs by only
a few seconds with any number of 'n' larger than the number of
CPUs.
But "CPUs+1" does not grab *all* of the spare cycles. With only
1 extra process, if both CPU's have a process block waiting for
disk i/o or whatever, one CPU's is then idle. For that reason
it seems that having "CPUs + 2" processes is more efficient than
"CPUs + 1".
The box I tested this on has 256Mb of RAM, and showed 180Mb in
use while the compile was running. That leaves a significant
amount for disk caching, but not enough to eliminate as much
disk i/o as it could. Therefore I think it would be interesting
to see the difference with both a system using 128Mb or less,
and one using 512Mb or more. I expect that less RAM might make
the "CPUs + 2" more significant, and that with 512Mb or more it
would have virtually no significance over "CPUs + 1".
For the most entertainment value, run top in one window and
compile in another. Watch the number of running processes bang
on numbers as high as 15-20, and the load average hit 12-13.
Floyd
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Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: ----Orp---- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux System
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:36:28 -0600
The corel installation does not delete anything from your system. You may
want a good connection as the corel download is about 70mb. Other than
that have fun =)
Cheers,
EdwardV-
Brenda Stockton wrote:
> If I already have windows 98 in my computer with microsoft works, can I
> add Linux Red Hat and then add corel wordperfect to my system with out
> deleting anythig? Is a dual boot system safe fo a computer with a hard
> drive of only 4.02?
>
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From: ----Orp---- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Xircom "RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem56": Is it supported
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:39:04 -0600
did you try insmod module, and see if that loded the module. As it may need to
be load if not in you conf.module file.
Kenny McCormack wrote:
> As subject line:
> Xircom "RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem56": Is it supported in Linux?
>
> I tried installing Red Hat 6.0 with it the other day, it seemed to "sort of"
> work. PCMCIA was installed and came up fine on the reboot, but it did not
> load the module for any card - i.e., "lsmod" showed the "pcmcia" module as
> loaded, but did not show any "xir*" module loaded.
>
> Also, "ifconfig -a" did not show an eth0 device.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What's the linux equivalent of Outlook Express and Pegasus Mail?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:16:29 GMT
Linux (I have installed three distributions on my PC) is something I
love and about which I have learned a lot over the past year or so.
I have a problem though I don't seem to be able to find a solution for
no matter how hard I've been looking around.
I would like to install a simple e-mail client that allows me to
download and send e-mail messages utilizing external pop3/smtp servers.
I do not want to install a server in my own linux box, but just have a
simple program that sends my mail to the several smtp servers I have
accounts with, and that downloads pop3 messages from pop3 servers.
I mean, I can easily send smtp messages by telnetting into a smtp
server and typing a few lines. Why should I install something as
complicated as sendmail or similar programs to do such simple tasks?
There are several e-mail clients that can do that easily in Win95
(Outlook Express, Pegasus Mail, MailWarrior, etc.) Why isn't there an
equivalent of those in linux, and if there is, what is it and where can
I find it?
Thank you for your help,
nik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Linux Solutions Provider
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:23:09 GMT
Hello,
I invite you to visit Glacis Technologies on-line at
http://www.thefortressgroup.com/glacis
We are a complete Linux Solutions provider, from Caldera
openLinux v2.4 and workstations to eServer and servers.
We also offer Linux software and books.
We're also hiring for a number of positions.
Hope to see you there soon!
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Calgary, Alberta www.thefortressgroup.com
Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Linux Solutions Provider
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:23:40 GMT
Hello,
I invite you to visit Glacis Technologies on-line at
http://www.thefortressgroup.com/glacis
We are a complete Linux Solutions provider, from Caldera
openLinux v2.4 and workstations to eServer and servers.
We also offer Linux software and books.
We're also hiring for a number of positions.
Hope to see you there soon!
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Calgary, Alberta www.thefortressgroup.com
Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Nico Beuermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: crazy fdisk output
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:26:42 +0100
Hello,
although my system�s running on /dev/hda:
( rdev: /dev/hda1 / ) "fdisk -l" shows a horrible partition table. I think
that comes from the wrong geometry data. My HD has 15 heads, 63 sectors with
a size of 6.1Megs or so.
Is there anybody who can explain how to fix this problem without loosing any
data?
Is it dangerous to run this system?
>fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 784 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 13 102501 83 Linux
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(216, 14, 63) logical=(12, 194, 63)
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(216, 14, 63) should be (216, 254, 63)
/dev/hda2 13 268 2048287+ 83 Linux
Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
phys=(217, 0, 1) logical=(12, 195, 1)
Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(1023, 14, 63) logical=(267, 194, 63)
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023, 14, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63)
/dev/hda3 268 294 205065 83 Linux
Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
phys=(1023, 14, 63) logical=(267, 195, 1)
Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(1023, 14, 63) logical=(293, 74, 63)
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023, 14, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63)
/dev/hda4 294 784 3941595 5 Extended
Partition 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
phys=(1023, 14, 63) logical=(293, 75, 1)
Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings:
phys=(1023, 14, 63) logical=(783, 254, 63)
Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023, 14, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63)
/dev/hda5 294 485 1536066 83 Linux
/dev/hda6 485 613 1024348+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda7 613 676 512158+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda8 676 740 512158+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda9 740 756 131323+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda10 756 784 225351 83 Linux
Disk /dev/hdc: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 847 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 1 356 717664+ 6 FAT16
/dev/hdc2 * 357 458 205632 83 Linux
/dev/hdc3 459 491 66528 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdc4 492 847 717696 5 Extended
/dev/hdc5 492 542 102784+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc6 543 847 614848+ 83 Linux
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From: Manuel Rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: section "screen", subsection "display"
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:30:04 GMT
How do I get to see the XF86 file? What do I have to type on the console
without having installed Linux yet, but on the XF86Config display
workaround?
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From: "Jason A. Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: global env. variables for tcsh
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:43:45 -0800
I need to set some environment variables for tcsh globally ... setting
them locally isn't any problem, and setting them either locally or
globally for bash isn't a problem, but I can't seem to set them globally
for tcsh. I have tried adding the declarations to /etc/csh.login, but
this is to no avail ... what file does the system look to for tcsh on
bootup/login? any help or information would be appreciated ... thanks
Jason A. Marshall
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruediger)
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.3 : Gnome Display Manager gdm not starting
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:54:48 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article Re: SuSE 6.3 : Gnome Display Manager gdm not starting,
Chris Gonnerman writes:
>
> Ruediger Otte wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>> I'm running SuSE 6.3 (i386 2.2.12 SMP) and trying to start the Gnome
>> Display Manager gdm. The X-Server starts but this is all what happens.
>>
>> Who can help me ?
>
> Maybe me. I posted a patch to the GNOME Bug List at
> http://bugs.gnome.org/db/42/4290.html to fix this.
>
At first thanks for help. But unfortunately the patch fails and give
following errors:
patching file gdmmisc.c
Hunk #2 FAILED at 264.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 296.
Hunk #4 succeeded at 424 with fuzz 2.
2 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file gdmmisc.c.rej
patching file gdmserver.c
patching file gdmslave.c
patch: **** malformed patch at line 155: GdmUserId);
Making gdm after patching creates much output put this at last
...
gdmmisc.o: In function `gdm_exec_script':
/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0/src/gdmmisc.c:267: undefined reference to `gdm_putenv'
gdmmisc.o: In function `gdm_exec_command':
/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0/src/gdmmisc.c:299: undefined reference to `gdm_putenv'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [gdmgreeter] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gdm-1.0.0'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
I hope yout can get a sense from this.
Ruediger
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to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally
coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruediger)
Subject: Re: Parallel Scanner under Linux???
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:59:47 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article Re: Parallel Scanner under Linux???,
Larry Ozarow writes:
>> ...
> Have you tried
> http://www.i2k.com/~jeffd/a4s2/
> There are a standalone and a sane backend for the Mustek 600 III EP
> plus.
> I've used the standalone and it works perfectly for me, at least as far
> as I
> can tell.
>
> Larry
You helped me to get rid off one of the last reasons, I hold M$ Windows
on my Computer. It works also with Mustek Scan Express 600 II SEP !!! I
didn't think that it would ever scan in Linux...
Ruediger
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to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally
coded for a four bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit
company that can't stand one bit of competition. (Jargon 4.2)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Salary?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:31:57 +0000
And verily, didst Desmond Coughlan hastily scribble thusly:
> I think it's a myth that wages are higher in the United States, at least
> when the high cost of living is taken into account.
What high cost of living?
Food's cheap. Petrol's cheap. PHone calls are cheap?
You don't have a HIGH cost of living.
> I presently earn a tad under 500,000 FFr a year, which I think translates
> into about 73,000 US$ per year. That doesn't seem much, but I live in
> a relatively large flat, and only pay 4,000 FFr a month (580 US$).
> So the wages are lower in Europe, but the cost of living is lower, too.
Really. Try living in the UK for a while.
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