Linux-Misc Digest #768, Volume #25               Fri, 15 Sep 00 09:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  depmod and 2.4.0 ("Dirk Kunze")
  Re: via82cxxx won't load or configure - RH6.2 ("Frederik Tilkin")
  Re: ICQ for Linux ("Gil F.")
  Re: samba configuration (Brad Kinser)
  Re: USB port ? (Bento Loewenstein)
  Re: GLIBC version (NDQ)
  Re: gnome or kde? (Garry Knight)
  Re: colors in login console (Garry Knight)
  Re: how can I fix this? (James Franklin)
  Re: Filtering Navigator printing (Bob Tennent)
  Re: Kernel Panic?!?!?!?! (Fung Wai Keung)
  Re: depmod and 2.4.0 (Dirk)
  Re: Technical information about ispell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  PLIP Errors ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why Does the EXT2 filesystem not need defragmentation. (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
  'ESC' does not working?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Filtering Navigator printing (Tony Lawrence)
  Re: GLIBC version (Oleksandr Bozhyk)
  Re: ICQ for Linux ("P.Schmitz")
  Re: Making new device files / Segmentation faults (Fabian Gebhardt)
  Re: Hex editors? (Edwin Johnson)

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From: "Dirk Kunze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: depmod and 2.4.0
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:42:16 +0200

depmod isn't working under my 2.4.0-test kernel.
there is no error, but the modules.dep is still 0 bytes although there are
dependecies.
depmod will find /lib/modules/<version>/modules.dep and change the timestamp
of modules.dep ... but still 0 bytes, so modprobe won't work.
Same with depmod -ae <version>...
Any suggestions?



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From: "Frederik Tilkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: via82cxxx won't load or configure - RH6.2
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:43:57 GMT


"Dexter N Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all
>
>    Newbie here, have just installed RedHat 6.2, and can't get sound to
> work.  Module via82cxxx reports "in use or busy" and fails to load -
> what's up? It works fine under Win98se.
>    BIOS settings have "Legacy sound" and "SB" both enabled, IRQ set at
> 10, and IRQ10 set at "Legacy ISA" (thius from memory, as I am not at
> that machine at the moment - it's 55km away :^)
>
> Hopefully...
>
> Dex

I know about alot of people having trouble with this chipset (including me).
According to others it only works when you install the ALSA sound drivers
http://www.alsa-project.org/.
I didn't install these yet so I don't know.

May I suggest that you read what's written about this chip at the
comp.os.linux.hardware newsgroup (and if you don't find your solution, post
your question there also).

Frederik



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From: "Gil F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ICQ for Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:07:14 +0400

Hi,

Kxicq works very well for me , and a bit easier to install than licq .
Take your pick.

Gil

Big Daddy wrote:
> 
> Scribbling furiously, P.Schmitz managed to write....
> : i am a newby in Linux. I just installed Suse Linux 7.0 professional and want
> : to install an ICQ version for Linux.
> : I found several ICQ-Clones in the internet, but since i don't have any
> : experience, i am not able to install one of them.
> : Can anybody tell me a good version for ICQ, which should have nearly the
> : same appearance and the same functions like the windows version. And could
> : anybody also give me Installsupport for that ?
> 
> www.licq.org
> 
> --
> Big Daddy
> 
> Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit
> there.

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From: Brad Kinser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba configuration
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:17:26 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am trying to get my windows machine to connect to Linux via SMB. I
> have done this before but have had to reload Linux. I can't seem to
> remember all the settings. Here is my smb.conf file. Could anyone see
> what I am missing.
>
> Thank you
> John MIller
>
> [global]
> workgroup = DBX
> encrypt passwords = Yes
> log file = /usr/local/samba/log%m
> path = /video
> hosts allow = 192.168.0.
> [john]
> comment = Home Directories
> read only = No
> create mask = 0770 guest ok = Yes

Can you connect to a share on the Win machine from Linux?  When you try
to connect to the Linux box through Windows, what happens?  Are you
using a log-in and password that are identical on both machines?

Brad


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bento Loewenstein)
Subject: Re: USB port ?
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:15:36 GMT

I've just downloaded 2.2.17 from www.kernel.org. This release has USB
support backported from 2.4.x, but IIRC you must answer yes for "Prompt
for incomplete/experimental device drivers".

Bento

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:58:47 -0700, "Yasuki Izaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Anyone knows a name of USB port (/dev/ttyu???).
>I'd like to syncronize my address book between Visor (Handspring) and my
>Linux (Redhat 6.1)
>via USB port. Thanks in advance!
>
>Yasuki Izaki
>
>
>


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From: NDQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GLIBC version
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:32:24 +0200
Reply-To: NDQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Oleksandr Bozhyk wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> how can I find out the version of  GLIBC package in Red Hat Linux ?
> SY,
> Oleksandr Bozhyk

[quy@iris] ~$ rpm -q glibc
glibc-2.1.2-11
-- 
NGUYEN-DAI Quy

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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome or kde?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:33:12 +0100

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Patton Echols wrote:
>The redhat distro sure makes it look like you pick Gnome
>or KDE as your "desktop".  Why do they do this?

Because you choose Gnome or KDE as your "desktop".

Look at it this way: You run a window manager, and you can run programs on top
of that window manager. If you select KDE, your session is set up to run kfm
and kpanel. The version of kfm that first runs doesn't necessariily display a
file manager window, but it does display the icons on your desktop.

If you select Gnome, gmc and the gnome panel (among other things) are run. Like
kfm, the version of gmc that runs doesn't necessarily display a file manager
window, but it does display icons.

I run Helix Gnome 1.21 and as well as gmc and the panel, I have some Gnome
applets that are automatically run when I first log on. For example, the quick
launch applet which contains mini-icons that allow me to quickly launch my
most-used programs. This is very much like Windows Quick Launch toolbar. I also
have a workspace switcher applet and a sound mixer applet running.

These applets are just programs that are run on top of X but that are aware of
the Gnome panel and can display themselves embedded in the panel.

So, to sum up, if you're running in a graphical environment you have X running,
on top of which you have a window manager running, on top of which you have a
number of other programs running, some of which might be kfm and kpanel, or gmc
and the Gnome panel.

In other words, the "desktop" is just a metaphor. It's just a bunch of
programs. Next time you're at a console try entering 'ps -x' and you'll see
just how many KDE and Gnome-related programs are running in the background.

--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: colors in login console
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 01:46:06 +0100

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Ray Yang wrote:
>Hi:
>       I just installed Redhat 6.2, and whenever I log in, I get lots of colors
>on my screen when I type ls. However, when I add a .cshrc and a .login
>file to my home directory, I don't get the colors anymore! How do I get
>the colors back while still having a .cshrc and .login file?

You could try an alias. Something like:

$ alias ls='ls -lF --color=always'

--
Garry Knight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Franklin)
Subject: Re: how can I fix this?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Sep 2000 07:10:08 -0600

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:51:55 +0900, choi jinhyuk wrote:
>I installed new sendmail 8.1.0 on my linux box.
>when I tried to test sendmail with /usr/lib/sendmail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>< test
>I received following errors.
>
>>>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=5
>501 5.1.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender domain must exist
>/home/frenzy/dead.letter... Saved message in /home/frenzy/dead.letter
>Closing connection to r-mail2.hanmail.net.
>>>> QUIT
>
>I have no official domain but running private dns server.
>So I tried again after killing dns server. But received same errors.
>how can I fix it?
>
>

It is not a problem of your email system.  It appears that another.server (or
r-mail.hanmail.net) does not like your domainname.  It expects you to be listed
in its DNS and you are not because you are a private domain (not part of the
internet).  They chose not to accept or relay mail from unrecognized domains.

I do not know the fix.  I have the same problem, so have resorted to using SMTP
from my ISP.  Sendmail was sometimes work for me depending on who email
transport it travelled through and to.
-- 
James

A Daily Quip, Quote, or Fortune:
Women are more easily and more deeply terrified ... generating more
sheer horror than the male of the species.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Filtering Navigator printing
Date: 15 Sep 2000 11:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:15:25 +0200, TM wrote:
 >
 >I tryed of course to do that  with sthg like enscript some_options  |
 >lpr  but didn't get in close what I expected
 >
 >Any example, tip ?
 >
 >> >I'd like to know how to filter the printing from Netscape Navigator
 >> >through something like enscript.
 >>
 >> Er, Netscape has an entry for "Print Command" in the printing dialog
 >> box.  Presumably it pipes the postscript to whatever program you put
 >> there.  You oughta be able to do something with that and maybe a small
 >> shell script.

Install psutils and use the programs it provides:

  Summary     : PostScript Utilities
  Description :
  This archive contains some utilities for manipulating PostScript documents.
  Page selection and rearrangement are supported, including arrangement into
  signatures for booklet printing, and page merging for n-up printing.

Bob T.

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From: Fung Wai Keung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic?!?!?!?!
Date: 15 Sep 2000 12:01:11 GMT

Hi,

You can boot into rescue mode and recover the symbolic link you've
deleted.  Remember to mount your filesystems w/ read-write mode.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: OK, i made a boo boo.  i was upgrading my system (redhat 6.0) to glib
: 1.2.6.  I upgraded using the RPM, however the links weren't set up for
: the programs to use it.  so, i was going to update the dynamic loader
: by 'ln -s /usr/i386-glibc2-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib/ld-
: linux.so.2@'  however, me the idiot, deleted /lib/ld-linux.so.2@.  no
: commands were interpreted, and i couldn't do a damn thing.  so, i
: rebooted.  it halts:  Warning, unable to open an initial console.
: Kernel Panic: No init found.  Try passing init=option to the kernel.
: i'm not too familiar with passing options to the kernel, so i'm LOST.
: any help would be GREATLY appreciated!


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Regards,
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Department of Automation and Computer Aided Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
Shatin, N.T.,
Hong Kong

Tel: (852)26098056      Fax: (852)26036002
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Dirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: depmod and 2.4.0
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:18:37 +0200

"Dirk Kunze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>depmod isn't working under my 2.4.0-test kernel.
>there is no error, but the modules.dep is still 0 bytes although there a=
re
>dependecies.
>depmod will find /lib/modules/<version>/modules.dep and change the times=
tamp
>of modules.dep ... but still 0 bytes, so modprobe won't work.
>Same with depmod -ae <version>...
>Any suggestions?

i got the solution from another newsgroup:
i have to change to the new modutilsversion for the 2.4.0-kernel.. :-)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Technical information about ispell
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:19:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You could ask this question in the comp.emacs.xemacs newsgroup, I have
> seen quite a few posting regarding ispell there..
>

Thanks, I will try

Bye
    Ramon


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PLIP Errors
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:24:04 GMT

PLIP Errors

After doing a full installed of redhat 6.2, if I try to install the
plip module but using the following command I get errors

command:
  'insmod plip'

error:
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/net/plip.o: unresolved symbol
parport_enumerate_Rdcb625ab
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/net/plip.o: unresolved symbol
parport_claim_R46138e04
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/net/plip.o: unresolved symbol
parport_register_device_Ra78805aa
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/net/plip.o: unresolved symbol
parport_unregister_device_R857406d1
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/net/plip.o: unresolved symbol
parport_release_Re207d4f8


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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Does the EXT2 filesystem not need defragmentation.
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:29:56 -0400

Floyd Davidson wrote (in part):

> There are some other considerations.  Linux buffers disk reads,
> and uses otherwise unused RAM for that purpose.  Hence the more
> RAM you have available for disk buffering, the faster your
> programs will generally run.

I suppose so, but it depends a lot on your access patterns. I
suspect that most of the stuff in my buffers and cache are not
useful: I am rummaging around in a large database, running a 2-hour
populate of the database. All the data coming in are new, and I
read precious little of the data that are already there. The
indices are in the cache (I hope), and that can help, but since I
am mostly inserting new records, I imagine that the cache is mostly
full of useless stuff. My disk transfer rate is about 150K
bytes/second, and I have seen the disk system can go as high as
10Megabytes per second on a regular basis, and sometimes a little
higher. Since the two hard drives have 2 Megabyte buffers and are
on an Ultra-2 SCSI, I imagine the upper limit is around 40
Megabytes per second, though I have not seen that.

> Linux will also swap out unused
> processes, making the space in RAM they would otherwise take up
> available for disk buffering.  Hence you do want _some_ swap
> space allocated.
>
> I have a system similar to yours, in that it has 256Mb of RAM
> and often is lightly loaded.  Here is what free says right now:
>
>          total        used     free   shared  buffers   cached
>  Mem:   257972      242560    15412    30872    62268    62000
>  -/+ buffers/cache: 118292   139680
>  Swap:  315048       15928   299120
>
> Which indicates that 16Mb has been swapped out, and is available
> for disk buffering.  (You can also get an idea how much swap I
> might recommend. :-)

Mine is:

             total:     used:     free:  shared:  buffers:
cached:
Mem:  529330176 526209024   3121152 89923584 207638528 190623744
Swap: 279642112  17080320 262561792

This seems to support my view that no matter what the amount of RAM
(iff there is "enough"), Linux uses about 16 Megabytes of swap
space. ;-)

> The actual virtual memory (RAM + swap) you *must* have amounts
> to "more than the need for virtual memory will ever be".  And
> remember that if your vm use exceeds the RAM + swap total, your
> system will crash.

Is this true of Linux? In the old days (around mid 1980s), a
UNIX system would not crash when you ran out of memory. The fork(2)
routine would just give an error return. If a shell got that, it
would just write "cannot fork", but the system would remain up. Of
course, the sysadmin would start looking around for the memory hog.
Somewhere around that time, they reserved a little memory and a
process table slot for the super-user so that something could be
done.

> So the question is, how much vm could your
> box possibly ever use?  Since for _you_, swap is free...  pick
> some nice large figure that boggles your mind (if you had ever
> bought a computer 15-20 years ago, just idea of having half a
> meg of virtual memory is worth what it is going to cost you!).
>
> (And if you use Netscrape, at some point the amount of vm it
> uses will be all there is, no matter how much you have.  In that
> case you want enough that you'll notice it before the crash...)

On my systems, Netscape uses around 24 Megabytes, but it does not
grow unbounded, even when I open multiple windows with it. Others
report memory leaks, but I have never seen any. Does the memory
leak without appearing in the Netscape line of the top command?

--
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 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  8:12am up 37 days, 15:39, 2 users, load average: 3.12, 3.17, 3.13




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 'ESC' does not working??
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:28:28 GMT

'ESC' does not working??

After install redhat 6.2 my 'ESC' key does not bring me into linedit
mode.  I set -o vi but stil each time I hit the 'ESC' the bell sounds.

please email me is you could help



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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Filtering Navigator printing
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:42:51 -0400

TM wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to know how to filter the printing from Netscape Navigator
> through something like enscript.
> 
> What I'm trying to get is some level of control over the  number of
> pages per sheet for instance.


Since navigator allows you to specify the command it pipes
to, you can do whatever you want.  For example, I use a
shell script that contains

#!/bin/sh
    /usr/local/bin/gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -r600
-sPAPERSIZE=letter -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sOutputFile="-" - | lp
-P raw



-- 
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests, 
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com

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From: Oleksandr Bozhyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GLIBC version
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:44:42 +0300


Thanks a lot.
NDQ wrote:

> Oleksandr Bozhyk wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > how can I find out the version of  GLIBC package in Red Hat Linux ?
> > SY,
> > Oleksandr Bozhyk
>
> [quy@iris] ~$ rpm -q glibc
> glibc-2.1.2-11
> --
> NGUYEN-DAI Quy


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From: "P.Schmitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ICQ for Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:10:19 +0200

Hmmm,
kannst Du mir auch sagen wo?
Ich habe, wie schon gesagt keine Erfahrung mit Linux. Ich habe mir auch
schon mehrere Clones runtergeladen, kriege aber keinen Installiert...
Danke auf jeden Fall, ich werde mal danach suchen...
W�re nett, wenn ich Dich bei evt. Problemen noch mal anschreiben d�rfte!

--
Patric Schmitz
FOG

--
Computers are like airconditioners - they stop working properly when
you open windows. (Gianluca Granero)

Stony777 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hallo,
>
> Mit der SuSE 7.0 distro m��ten eigentlich mindestens drei clones
mitinstalliert
> worden sein:
>
> kxicq (mimt gut den Windoof-Clone)
> gtkicq
> kicq
>
> Hoff� es hilft.
>
> Stony777
>
> "P.Schmitz" wrote:
>
> > Hi ,
> >
> > i am a newby in Linux. I just installed Suse Linux 7.0 professional and
want
> > to install an ICQ version for Linux.
> > I found several ICQ-Clones in the internet, but since i don't have any
> > experience, i am not able to install one of them.
> > Can anybody tell me a good version for ICQ, which should have nearly the
> > same appearance and the same functions like the windows version. And
could
> > anybody also give me Installsupport for that ?
> >
> > thanx in advance!
>



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From: Fabian Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making new device files / Segmentation faults
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:56:46 +0200

Bob Martin wrote:
> 2. Could be the kernel version. I believe 2.2.12 had memory leak that
> showed up somtimes. Have you looked in /var/log/messages for any related
> error messages ?

Yes, nothing there.

> --
> 
> Bob Martin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Subject: Re: Hex editors?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Sep 2000 13:00:55 GMT

mc, hexed, hexedit to name a few. The latter two allow you to modify the file.
...edwin

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:30:54 -0700, Art Decco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me a bit about hex viewers / editors for unix / linux?
>
>I do lots of internationalization work. I frequently need to see exactly
>what bits are in a file, and I can't rely on a text editor's (or a terminal
>emulator's) interpretation of those bits. Octal won't do. Neither will that
>charming unix convention of displaying bytes as control-left elbow-type
>keystroke sequences.
>
>So here are my questions:
>
>Is there any standard unix command line tool that will display a hex view of
>a file? I'm asking about standard in the sense of likely to be available on
>most unix boxes I visit, so I can count on it (usually) being there, like vi
>or cat. I could write one of my own in Perl, but it wouldn't be available
>everywhere I needed tend to go.
>
>Is there any standard, or perhaps relatively common, command line hex EDITOR
>available on most unix boxes that would let me edit a file (change the bits)
>directly in hex?
>
>Finally, is there a really good GUI hex editor for Linux developers? This
>one wouldn't be standard, I assume, just a good program that I could perhaps
>download as an RPM, now that I'm beginning my exploration of the world of
>Linux.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>


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