Linux-Misc Digest #848, Volume #18 Sun, 31 Jan 99 19:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jerryn)
Cross platform development (Linux & NT) (Dennis)
Great Tech jobs in So. Cal ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LinuxCAD technology in a long run. (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Cross platform development (Linux & NT) (Tom Orsi)
Re: Great Tech jobs in So. Cal ("Cameron Spitzer")
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (David Nutter)
Re: libm.so.4? (zc)
Re: Getting Linux to Recognize New Drive (David Goldstein)
My 2 cents worth on man pages (Peter Schaffter)
ansi and console (iNoDE)
Linux Counter: 83445 registered Linux users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: "Proper" Linux System Administration Book, suggestion on writing it! ("Michael
'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Redhat 5.2 install pukes ("Scott L. Foglesong")
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From: jerryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:53:00 -0500
Jerry Normandin replies:
Jeff you have NO Clue. Linux runs on embedded controllers.. and even
a palm Pilot. It runs on DEC ALPHA, Sparc, Ultra Sparc, Power PC, 68K,
and more.. And I can download code from NASA, compile it on my box and
it
runs. Linux is quickly merging as the Server of choice, but you've
seen nothing yet!
More desktop apps, more groupware, more Office Style applications, just
watch!
Jeff Smith wrote:
>
> Well, I see you all took the comment of "Make Linux the Only OS" literally.
> I also would not want that to happen, it couldn't. Look at the embedded
> market. They pick the OS that best fits their machine. What I meant was, I
> think the Linux "Minds to be" should be targeting the Desktop market
> more...Linux can be a viable replacement to Windows.
>
> Jeff Smith
>
> Stewart Stremler wrote in message <78ugm4$b6g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Jeff Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >[snip]
> >> run Linux because I want to. I'm an old coder by heart and see Linux as
> an
> >> opportunity to be the only OS. Yes, that's a dream way-off, but remember
> >> that Linux IS developed by the "world", we can make it do more that MS
> does,
> >> but do it right!
> >
> >I think it's this implicit belief that there _should_ be only ONE OS that
> >will do Linux the most damage.
> >
> >Why should there be only one? Doesn't that presume that everyone is
> >the same, thinks the same, solves problems the same, handles abstraction
> >the same?
> >
> >> Bill is a great businessman, or how could he have sold us all SHIT for
> >> years. Better yet, why did we buy it. My answer is that it was the best
> that
> >
> >True.
> >
> >> was out there at the time.
> >
> >I'd contest that. There were alternatives that were better... but the idea
> >that there should be only _one_ meant that people stopped thinking and
> >tried to second-guess the future.
> >
> >> Linux is finally taking off...who knows, with
> >> corp. backing ( IBM, Compaq and the like) and "No one Person"
> responsible
> >> for it, it could be the only OS to use -- Time will tell.
> >
> >I hope not. I want Linux to succeed, but I don't want it to be the ONLY
> >operating system. There's an arrogance that comes from that perception,
> >and much of the benefit of Linux is that it doesn't think of itself as
> >the *only* OS, so applications take some effort to be clean & portable.
> >
> >I *like* knowing that in addition to Linux there's FreeBSD and other BSD
> >variants, OS/2, PIOS, BeOS, MacOS, AmigaOS, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, OSF/1,
> >and so forth. The OS shapes the way a programmer interacts with the system,
> >and that interaction influences problem-solving.
> >
> >With many OSs, everyone benefits from the hybrid vigor and
> cross-pollenization
> >that results from disparate solutions to common problems.
> >
> >--
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> > "It must be depressing to go through life with | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > no purpose." -Calvin (_Calvin & Hobbes_) | Stewart Stremler
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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cross platform development (Linux & NT)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:45:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First, I want to thank everyone that responded with information on
porting a WinNT app. (Builder++) to Linux. Looks like a lot of work,
especially in this case because the program is a data acquisition
program that uses lots of serial ports in near real time.
So maybe it is time to shift gears and look at cross platform
development that will result in both a WinNT and Linux application. So
the question is what is the best strategy to do an application for both
platforms? Tcl and C++? Other? What are the pros and cons for
development time, tools, etc.
Yes, I know the very mention of NT can cause some to hit the breaking
point, but the customer has spoken (and pays the bills), so this is how
it must be. Sorry!
Thanks for any helpful information.
Dennis,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Great Tech jobs in So. Cal
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:02:10 GMT
We're a new recruiter in Los Angeles with lots of positions to fill in all
technology-related areas. Please e-mail your resume and salary
requirements to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you live anywhere in Southern
California. No fee to you.
--
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LinuxCAD technology in a long run.
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:23:26 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> Boycott LinuxCAD and protect Usenet.
>
> Erik
>
Most extraploations like the one you did are never accurate, but you
heart is in the right place.
In LinuxCAD's case, however, they are their own worse enemy. An
engineer with AutoCad experience purchased their product and was so
disgusted by it and their misrepresentations that he wrote a scathing
review and posted it on comp.os.linux.misc.
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From: Tom Orsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cross platform development (Linux & NT)
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:22:06 -0800
I have a small underdeveloped library for threads, etc.. that is
cross platform. You can get it from my websight
http://www.zingaretti.com
I have touched it in a while, but its should give you a good example
of one method for cross platform development.
-Tom-
Dennis wrote:
> First, I want to thank everyone that responded with information on
> porting a WinNT app. (Builder++) to Linux. Looks like a lot of work,
> especially in this case because the program is a data acquisition
> program that uses lots of serial ports in near real time.
>
> So maybe it is time to shift gears and look at cross platform
> development that will result in both a WinNT and Linux application. So
> the question is what is the best strategy to do an application for both
> platforms? Tcl and C++? Other? What are the pros and cons for
> development time, tools, etc.
>
> Yes, I know the very mention of NT can cause some to hit the breaking
> point, but the customer has spoken (and pays the bills), so this is how
> it must be. Sorry!
>
> Thanks for any helpful information.
>
> Dennis,
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Great Tech jobs in So. Cal
Date: 31 Jan 1999 23:25:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We're a new recruiter in Los Angeles with lots of positions to fill in all
Hey, I'll bet [EMAIL PROTECTED] is looking for that.
Cameron
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From: David Nutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 31 Jan 1999 22:53:05 +0000
Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Toon Moene writes:
> > Yeah, "Hacking is the most fun you can get - with your clothes on".
>
> Some of us hack without clothes :-)
So he was right about the criminally insane bit...or do you have that
many machines running your office is swelteringly hot :)
-david
--
In the age of Wintel systems, the abacus is king.
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From: zc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: libm.so.4?
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:59:00 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stefan Davids wrote:
>
> >>>>> "zc" == zc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> zc> It's a simple math program written by myself. There's sin ,
> zc> cos, exp in it. So I compile it with the option -lm to link
> zc> it with a math lib. This program do compile in a i486 running
> zc> slackware 3.0. There are two libm.so in /lib, one is
> zc> libm.so.4.6.27, the other is libm.so.5.0.0. After compile, ldd
> zc> show libm.so.5.0.0 is linked. And gcc -v show the gcc version
> zc> is 2.7.0.
>
> Yup, this is normal - given a choice between two libraries the linker
> will always link against the newer when you compile.
>
> zc> On that old i386, gcc -v show the gcc version is
> zc> 2.6.3 So I guess a particular version of gcc will link a
> zc> particular libm to a program by default, right?
>
> Not usually, but if that's an old aout based Linux it may be that that
> particular gcc doesn't know anything about non-aout libraries.
>
> zc> Is there some command to find which libm will be linked befor
> zc> a program compile?
>
> Not AFAIK. You just need to look for the newest version in your
> libarary path.
>
> zc> And is there some command to find which functions are
> zc> contained in a lib?
>
> The way configure finds out what functions you have in various
> libraries is to try to compile a test program and see if that works or
> not. If you just want a symbol table listing then run `nm' on the
> library.
>
> zc> On that i486 running slackware 3.0, there's a static lib
> zc> libm.a in /usr/lib, I tried the option -static to force gcc to
> zc> link it to my program, then I get complain that no definition
> zc> for sin, cos, exp, etc..
>
> Sounds bizarre - your command line's something like
>
> gcc -static -o prog prog.c -lm
>
> right?
Similar, in fact: gcc -static -lm -o prog prog.c
How to correct? It must be wrong, because ar t /usr/lib/libm.a show
there is sin.o cos.o etc..
--Jim
>
> zc> It seems this static llb libm.a is short of some function. I
> zc> want double check this in some other way.
>
> Well for a static libarary it's just an ar archive. So you could get a
> listing of the table of contents with something like ar t
> /usr/lib/libm.a - that might give you an idea or you can list the
> symbol table with nm -s /usr/lib/libm.a
>
> Stefan
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting Linux to Recognize New Drive
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:54:10 +0100
nonet@chain wrote:
> Also, I've been booting linux from a floppy (make bzdisk) since I
> had another OS on the drive. Now, I just deleted Windows entirely
> and am going 100% linux. So, there's no need for a floppy boot any
> more.
>
> I tried:
>
> cd /usr/src/linux
> make dep; make clean; make bzImage
> lilo
You need to run zlilo, or bzlilo, also. The other thing to do is
compiler the kernel with options that you do not always need to load as
modules. They do not get compiled with the kernel and will get loaded
automatically, as the need arises :)
> But I'm told the kernel is TOO big.
>
> How does one put the kernel on a diet, OR, is there a way to
> get this fat kernel in the MBR?
>
> Thanks SOOOOOO much,
>
> nonet
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Schaffter)
Subject: My 2 cents worth on man pages
Date: 31 Jan 1999 22:59:36 GMT
The debate over whether man pages should be user friendly and include
examples has been raging for a while. The dispute stems from differing
assumptions about their function. Some folks want them to be quick
reference guides. Others, especially newbies, expect them to be
complete manuals.
The way they're currently set up, they're for reference only. This
can be off-putting for the newcomer. S/he installs Linux, then
discovers that its online documentation is terse and largely
incomprehensible. We've all experienced the frustration of reading a
man page and being blindsided by options that leave us scratching our
heads, wondering: "Do I do --this before/as-well-as/after --that? And
what does --thisotherthing mean?"
Man pages are like glossaries; they assume you've "read the book," and
simply need clarification. Figuring out an app by reading its man page
is like trying to understand a book by consulting its index.
Books need indices, and Linux apps need man pages. No one, however,
expects a book to be comprised of only its index. Why should Linux
apps be different?
The man pages ought to act as companions to more complete
documentation. Such documentation exists, to be sure, in HOWTOs, FAQs,
and all the other stuff that gets plunked into /usr/doc. The problem
there is that the documents are often as abstruse and "example-free"
as the man pages.
There are two perfectly understandable reasons for this. The first is
that programmers are rarely writers -- and why should they be? The
second is that English is not everyone's native tongue. English is,
for better or worse, the universal language of the computer world.
Imagine, all you anglophones out there, what life would be like if
you had to document every project you undertook in Czech, or Chinese?
Poorly written documentation is hardly unique to Linux. But the Linux
community is in a unique position to do something about it. The very
nature of the project is to mobilise expertise, applying differing
skills toward a common goal. One such skill is writing, and not one
that is somehow less important than creating killer apps and nifty
utilities. What good is a brilliant program if users can't figure out
how to use it? Or worse, if they remove it from their systems out of
sheer frustration?
Workaround solutions like sticking examples in the man pages won't
solve the problem of unclear documentation. Neither will turning the
man pages into full-scale tutorials. What is needed is the will on
the part of the Linux community to engage people with writing skills
to join the project. Programmers should know where to pass the torch
once their coding and debugging is finished. Writers, equally, should
be welcomed into the community as an essential -- no, indispensible --
part of the Linux process.
In short, leave the man pages the way they are. Let's get working on
the /usr/docs.
Peter Schaffter
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From: iNoDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ansi and console
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:41:41 -0600
With kernel 2.0.36 my console prompt (where I type 'startx') used to
look like
http://bash.current.nu/images/blue.gif
After upgrading to k2.2.1 I don;t longer have ansi support. If I type
echo $TERM I get linux... and if I open an xterm in X (ansi works fine
in X) and type echo $TERM I get xterm.
So how can I get ansi back at the console?
I tried setterm -term xterm at the console as root... but still
nothing...
Thanks...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Counter: 83445 registered Linux users
Date: 1 Feb 1999 00:00:12 GMT
This is the monthly report from the Linux Usage Counter.
It is posted on the 1st of every month on the newsgroup
comp.os.linux.misc
Registration and information is available via the World
Wide Web; connect to URL http://counter.li.org/
This is the preferred interface to the counter.
NOTE: You can UPDATE your record in the counter if you have
your registration key, which was sent to you when you registered.
EMAIL:
To enter your registration into the statistics, send an E-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], with the SUBJECT line being one of
I use Linux at home
I use Linux at work
I use Linux at school
The reply will contain information about how to register more
information about yourself, your machine and your friends, if you
want to.
If you can't do Web, you can get the reports by sending the counter
an E-mail containing in the BODY one of the lines
//REPORT short
//REPORT persons
//REPORT machines
//HELP
Any questions should be adressed to the maintainer of the counter,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good luck!
=================================================================
This is the Linux Counter summary as of Sun Jan 31 17:17:30 1999
There are 83445 persons registerd.
2777 users have been registered by friends.
There are 44282 machines registered.
I guesstimate that between 0.2% and 5% of all Linux users have
registered with the Linux Counter.
So the total number of Linux users is probably between
1,668,900 and 41,722,500 people.
WHERE LINUX USERS LIVE
The table is sorted by number of Linux users divided by population
No Country Pers Fri Mach P/Mpop Mpop
======================================================================
1 AQ Antarctica 2 0 0 486.0 0.0
2 NO Norway 2093 46 825 477.4 4.4
3 FI Finland 2242 55 1036 439.2 5.1
4 IS Iceland 99 3 53 366.3 0.3
5 SE Sweden 2613 57 1135 293.6 8.9
6 SI Slovenia 399 8 108 204.5 2.0
7 DK Denmark 928 9 416 176.8 5.2
8 EE Estonia 255 15 175 174.7 1.5
9 NL Netherlands 2387 48 1035 153.3 15.6
10 CA Canada 3728 73 1669 129.4 28.8
11 AT Austria 1036 29 496 129.1 8.0
12 AU Australia 2123 47 1021 116.3 18.3
13 US USA 29705 738 12823 111.5 266.5
14 GI Gibraltar 3 0 6 104.3 0.0
15 NZ New Zealand 361 3 213 101.7 3.5
16 CH Switzerland 724 15 346 100.5 7.2
17 BE Belgium 911 523 437 89.6 10.2
18 HU Hungary 882 37 507 88.2 10.0
19 DE Germany 7252 172 3496 86.8 83.5
20 LU Luxembourg 36 0 6 86.6 0.4
21 IE Ireland 262 5 122 73.5 3.6
22 GL Greenland 4 0 1 68.7 0.1
23 GB Great Britain 3765 103 1712 64.4 58.5
24 IL Israel 347 13 149 64.0 5.4
25 SG Singapore 217 6 88 63.9 3.4
26 MC Monaco 2 1 2 63.1 0.0
27 FR France 3648 108 1241 62.6 58.3
28 AD Andorra 4 0 0 55.0 0.1
29 ES Spain 2128 28 552 54.3 39.2
30 PT Portugal 490 10 184 49.7 9.9
31 HR Croatia 223 6 59 44.6 5.0
32 GU Guam 6 0 0 38.2 0.2
33 GR Greece 399 14 156 37.9 10.5
34 KR Korea (South) 1567 16 245 34.5 45.5
35 CZ Czech Republic 350 16 201 33.9 10.3
36 LT Lithuania 119 2 64 32.6 3.6
37 BM Bermuda 2 0 3 32.2 0.1
38 LI Liechtenstein 1 0 2 32.1 0.0
39 MT Malta 12 0 5 32.0 0.4
40 IT Italy 1791 64 675 31.2 57.5
41 KY Cayman Islands 1 0 2 28.9 0.0
42 UY Uruguay 91 0 19 28.1 3.2
43 PL Poland 910 46 619 23.5 38.6
44 BB Barbados 6 0 2 23.3 0.3
45 BZ Belize 5 0 5 22.8 0.2
46 CR Costa Rica 75 0 31 21.7 3.5
47 CY Cyprus 16 0 3 21.5 0.7
48 MP Northern Mariana Islands 1 0 1 19.1 0.1
49 SK Slovakia 94 1 71 17.5 5.4
50 TW Taiwan 360 4 147 16.8 21.5
51 RO Romania 319 34 183 14.7 21.7
52 BR Brazil 2112 45 537 13.0 162.7
53 ZA South Africa 536 11 235 12.8 41.7
54 LV Latvia 31 0 25 12.6 2.5
55 BG Bulgaria 101 6 48 11.7 8.6
56 MY Malaysia 230 7 51 11.5 20.0
57 MV Maldives 3 0 1 11.1 0.3
58 TT Trinidad and Tobago 14 0 3 11.0 1.3
59 CL Chile 153 5 69 10.7 14.3
60 NC New Caledonia 2 0 7 10.7 0.2
61 VI Virgin Islands (U.S.) 1 0 0 10.3 0.1
62 AR Argentina 349 7 112 10.1 34.7
63 MQ Martinique 4 0 1 10.0 0.4
64 BN Brunei 3 0 1 10.0 0.3
65 PF French Polynesia 2 0 2 8.9 0.2
66 NA Namibia 13 0 9 7.8 1.7
67 PR Puerto Rico 28 0 9 7.3 3.8
68 YU Yugoslavia (Serbia and Monte 76 1 49 7.1 10.8
69 PA Panama 18 0 9 6.8 2.7
70 BH Bahrain 4 0 3 6.8 0.6
71 RU Russia 967 33 424 6.5 148.2
72 MK Macedonia 13 2 4 6.2 2.1
73 JP Japan 760 7 201 6.1 125.4
74 MO Macau 3 0 0 6.0 0.5
75 VU Vanuatu 1 0 3 5.6 0.2
76 QA Qatar 3 1 1 5.5 0.5
77 MU Mauritius 6 0 2 5.3 1.1
78 KW Kuwait 9 0 4 4.6 2.0
79 SR Suriname 2 0 2 4.6 0.4
80 PY Paraguay 24 0 4 4.4 5.5
81 AE United Arab Emirates 13 1 4 4.3 3.1
82 VE Venezuela 89 0 32 4.0 22.0
83 MX Mexico 378 15 156 3.9 95.8
84 UA Ukraine 199 9 104 3.9 50.9
85 BA Bosnia and Herzegovina 10 0 1 3.8 2.7
86 CO Colombia 135 2 46 3.7 36.8
87 GA Gabon 4 0 1 3.4 1.2
88 TR Turkey 212 4 89 3.4 62.5
89 JM Jamaica 8 0 2 3.1 2.6
90 RE Reunion 2 0 0 2.9 0.7
91 AM Armenia 10 0 4 2.9 3.5
92 BY Belarus 28 2 16 2.7 10.4
93 TH Thailand 136 2 52 2.3 58.9
94 MD Moldova 10 0 4 2.2 4.5
95 TN Tunisia 20 0 8 2.2 9.0
96 BW Botswana 3 0 2 2.0 1.5
97 CU Cuba 22 5 16 2.0 11.0
98 BO Bolivia 14 0 2 2.0 7.2
99 LB Lebanon 7 1 3 1.9 3.8
100 HN Honduras 9 0 4 1.6 5.6
101 MN Mongolia 4 0 3 1.6 2.5
102 EC Ecuador 18 0 4 1.6 11.5
103 GY Guyana 1 0 0 1.4 0.7
104 OM Oman 3 0 0 1.4 2.2
105 PH Philippines 94 4 28 1.3 74.5
106 PE Peru 30 0 7 1.2 24.5
107 DO Dominican Republic 9 0 3 1.1 8.1
108 SV El Salvador 6 0 11 1.0 5.8
109 GT Guatemala 11 0 2 1.0 11.3
110 ZW Zimbabwe 8 0 5 0.7 11.3
111 LK Sri Lanka 12 1 2 0.6 18.6
112 HK Hong Kong 4 0 0 0.6 6.3
113 AL Albania 2 2 2 0.6 3.2
114 ID Indonesia 125 33 47 0.6 206.6
115 KZ Kazakhstan 10 0 4 0.6 16.9
116 EG Egypt 36 1 5 0.6 63.6
117 JO Jordan 2 0 1 0.5 4.2
118 SA Saudi Arabia 9 0 7 0.5 19.4
119 CN China 545 3 121 0.5 1210.0
120 IN India 385 16 136 0.4 952.1
121 MA Morocco 12 0 4 0.4 29.8
122 AZ Azerbaijan 3 0 1 0.4 7.7
123 GE Georgia 2 0 18 0.4 5.2
124 UZ Uzbekistan 8 0 3 0.3 23.4
125 CF Central African Republic 1 0 0 0.3 3.3
126 MZ Mozambique 5 0 2 0.3 17.9
127 CI Cote d'Ivoire 4 0 1 0.3 14.8
128 PK Pakistan 33 5 7 0.3 129.3
129 NI Nicaragua 1 0 0 0.2 4.3
130 PG Papua New Guinea 1 0 1 0.2 4.4
131 KG Kyrgyzstan 1 0 0 0.2 4.5
132 SN Senegal 2 0 0 0.2 9.1
133 MG Madagascar 3 0 1 0.2 13.7
134 VN Vietnam 16 0 2 0.2 74.0
135 KE Kenya 6 0 1 0.2 28.2
136 CM Cameroon 3 0 2 0.2 14.3
137 KH Cambodia 2 0 1 0.2 10.9
138 NP Nepal 4 0 0 0.2 22.1
139 RW Rwanda 1 0 0 0.1 6.9
140 ZM Zambia 1 0 0 0.1 9.2
141 TZ Tanzania 3 0 0 0.1 29.1
142 IR Iran 5 0 8 0.1 66.1
143 ET Ethiopia 4 0 0 0.1 57.2
144 UG Uganda 1 0 0 0.0 20.2
145 BD Bangladesh 5 0 3 0.0 123.1
146 XW The World (Somewhere in it) 208 18 1 0.0 5771.9
147 DZ Algeria 1 0 0 0.0 29.2
148 NG Nigeria 2 0 1 0.0 103.9
WHERE PEOPLE USE LINUX
Place Users Percent
==============================
school 13552 16.45%
home 72049 87.47%
not used 18 0.02%
work 30610 37.16%
somewhere 2844 3.45%
==============================
TOTAL 82373 100.00%
NOTE: The total is the 82373 users who answered this question.
Some gave more than one answer, so the number of answers is 119073
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Proper" Linux System Administration Book, suggestion on writing it!
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:53:06 +1100
G'day Ron and all,
> I've yet to find a "fully decent" book on just specifically Linux System
> Administration (NOT for beginners). What mostly annoys me (and makes me not
Have you heard of the LDP? They make excellent documentation on the Linux
system.
Their works are fairly good and aimed at all levels.
Best of all, they're free. (Or you can pay for them if you want them in a
printed book form.)
Alternatively, why don't you look at the course outline for a sys admin unit for
computer science students and see what textbook they use. (A lot of them use
Linux for their courses, as well.)
All the best.
Michael.
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From: "Scott L. Foglesong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 install pukes
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:07:18 -0800
Kyle Dansie wrote:
> Tried to install Redhat 5.2. Inserted the boot floppy and the CD into
> the machine. Hit the on switch. The boot starts and I get a message.
>
> Loading initrd.img.....Boot Failed.
>
> OK how do I solve this problem. The Suse disk loaded on this machine
> without problems. What's up with Redhat.
>
> Thanks,
> Kyle Dansie
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Linux Rules Iomega Zip Drive Mini - HOWTO
> -
> http://njtcom.com/dansie/zip-drive.html
> or
> http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/ZIP-Drive.html
> --------------------------------------------------------
The boot floppy is bad. That seems to be a problem with RedHat; I had
the same problem.
The solution is to make a new boot floppy off the CD. If you have the
Linux Installation Guide (that comes with the retail version of RedHat
5.2) the information is on page 225 for both DOS or a Linux (Linux-like)
OS.
If you don't: there's a program called 'rawrite' in the \dosutils
directory on the CD.
Run it. When it says:
'Enter disk image source file name:' you type in:
..\images\boot.img
When it says:
'Enter target diskette drive:' you type in:
a:
It will tell you to insert a formatted diskette, you hit Enter, and
there it is.
>From Linux, cd to the cdrom directory (mount it if necessary), then:
dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440K
Cheers--
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Scott L. Foglesong
San Francisco Conservatory of Music
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