Linux-Misc Digest #848, Volume #27 Sun, 13 May 01 14:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: No sound; Something wrong with mixer. Help (Dave Uhring)
Re: Setting up Database usage for the users (itisme)
Re: Linux in college & high school ("mmnnoo")
Re: Failed to setup FTP Server in RedHat 7.1
Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download (burk)
Re: chown in vfat partition (Robert Heller)
Re: chown in vfat partition (Robert Heller)
Re: mail sends, but does not receive (MH)
Re: Linux in college & high school (Craig Kelley)
Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download (Jerry Kreps)
Re: 4GB RAM Problem... (Johan Kullstam)
Re: cdrecord doesn't like oggvorbis > WAV (MH)
Re: cdrecord doesn't like oggvorbis > WAV (MH)
Re: cdrecord doesn't like oggvorbis > WAV (MH)
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,creative.products.sound_blaster.live
Subject: Re: No sound; Something wrong with mixer. Help
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 10:20:21 -0500
grendel wrote:
>
> I have a soundblaster live value and have followed the directions in the
> article in the SuSE sdb called "ALSA update for SuSE SuSE 6.4/7.0/7.1 and
> do not have sound. After the alsa update my card was recognized by
> alsaconfig. However when it trys to adjust the volumes and change the
> mixer it fails. No asound.conf is created. Here are the error messages. I
> have verified that the sound drivers are loaded. They even say this using
> "alsasound status".
>
> "Could not initialize..."
>
> "No mixer config in the /etc/asounf.conf. You have to unmute your card.
> Mixer 0/0 'open error."
>
>
>
> I've even tryed manually unmuting the mixer and even accessing it via
> amixer but I always get the message about the "Mixer 0/0 ' open error.
> Even when I try different device names this happens. Thanks.
>
>
>
# cat /proc/asound/sndstat
# lsmod
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From: itisme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up Database usage for the users
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:43:35 GMT
Jerry
I apologize for not being specific. I have a RedHat Linux 7.0
with MySQL installed. I want to set up some user accounts on this
database server so people on the local network can access the MySQL
server. these users will be allowed to create their databases, but I
want to control the size of each user's database. I don't want their
database to grow too big. I was looking for this topic on the
internet, unfortunately, i was not able to find any ariticles on the
internet about this. w if there is a way to acommplish this. do u have
any suggestions about it. I need you help about it.
Thank U
Jack
On Sun, 13 May 2001 08:23:30 -0500, Jerry Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>itisme wrote:
>
>> HOW?????????????. TIA
>>
>>
>> Jack
>
>Computers don't come with crystal balls, Jack. How about some more
>specificsc.
>What kind of database? MySQL, Postgress, Oracle???
>Are the users local or remote or does it matter?
>What kind of network?
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From: "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:07:19 GMT
That new widescreen PoserBook is actually quite cool. If it works with
OSX, Apple has for the first time (in a long time) created a computer that is
very appealing. Then again, it's terribly expensive, like everything
else that is Mac.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux is big at the colleges near where I live but only in the
> CS/Engineering depts. For the most part the rest of the student body is
> using MS or to a surprising degree Apple. The PowerBooks are quite
> popular out here, which surprised me.
>
> flatfish
>
>
> On Sun, 13 May 2001 00:56:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (The Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
>
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, mmnnoo
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote
>>on Fri, 11 May 2001 03:03:47 GMT
>><nEIK6.60080$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>Here's a list of the machines in the computer science dept at the
>>>University of New Mexico:
>>>
>>>http://www.cs.unm.edu/~ssg/SSG_Hardware/byos
>>>
>>>any questions?
>>
>>I will note for the record that a large number of the machines are
>>running Debian 2.2, a few are running IRIX, and, of the more than 80
>>machines listed there, only 4 are known to run any variant of Windows
>>(there are two unknowns). And one of them -- versaka-vm -- is cheating
>>by using VMWare. :-)
>>
>>This according to a quick scan of the article. Impressive, actually.
>>I'm kinda curious as to the manpower required to install and maintain
>>all this machinery, and how that manpower would compare to a
>>similar-sized lab running pure NT/W2k equipment.
>>
>>>
>>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Christopher Corbell"
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for leads to information, statistics, or just individual
>>>> testimonials about the use of Linux in educational settings,
>>>> particularly in high school, community college, university, and grad
>>>> school settings. Does anyone out there know of any general sources
>>>> of information on the use of Linux in these settings? I would
>>>> especially be interested in the use of Linux in math & science
>>>> education. Also, I'd like to know about any advocacy groups, PC
>>>> 'salvage' groups or similar organizations that are active in getting
>>>> Linux used in schools.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>> - Christopher
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Failed to setup FTP Server in RedHat 7.1
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:07:49 +0000 (UTC)
Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I encountered similar problems when I installed RH71. Apparnently
>> the people at Red Hat are getting more and more like Microsoft every
>> day.
>
>> They assume you installed the ftp server because you don't know what
>> you're doing and you don't REALLY want it.
>
> I believe they assume that you know what you're doing and hence know how
> to enable a simple service.
No, they assumed that even though I installed the server, I didn't really
know what I wanted and they disabled it by default. Then they made me
spend time I didn't have digging around in the config files figuring out
how to enable it again. Becuase telnet also was disabled, that means all
of the config files because I thought at first that it was something more
general that was the result of the upgrade.
They're assumption that they knew what I wanted better than I did cost
me about half a day that I didn't have struggleing with new config files
I wasn't familiar with to do what should have been a very simple
installation.
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (burk)
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download
Date: 13 May 2001 16:15:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 13 May 2001 16:25:38 +0200, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I can't understood why everyone wants those distros for free, assuming
>that most
>who post here can easily afford them, I payed 79,95 DM (~40 US$) for
>SuSE 7.1
>upgrade, ordering directly from suse.de.
>
>Of course there is, talking about legal issues, nothing wrong with
>downloading
>whole distros, but morally?
Great, get the guilt going. Guilt, just what I need! <grin>
Your point is well taken, and I have purchased distro's before. My
main mission in trying SuSE, (or Mandrake for that matter) is to
aquire skill in a variety of distributions, and not just Slackware
(my personal favorite) or Redhat (which is far more likely to be
found on corporate servers here in the US). That could get
expensive as the distributions build up, and there are the kids to
feed.
>
>GNU/Linux is about "free in speech", not about "free beer", hope I got
>that right...:-)
Close enough.
I agree, if you can afford a Linux Distro, buy it (or make a
contribution to Debian). If you can't afford it, run it anyway and
pass it along later.
-burk
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chown in vfat partition
Date: 13 May 2001 16:47:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Professor J Frink),
In a message on 13 May 2001 14:08:48 GMT, wrote :
PJF> >> ok i have a file on a vfat partition (windows) it is owned by root:root,
PJF> >> i'm in my users account and i want to own it so i can write to it:
PJF> >>
PJF> >> $ su root
PJF> >> $ chown bob:users file
PJF> >> $ chown: file: Operation not permitted
PJF> >>
PJF> >> this seems to only happen in this partition because i tried it on other
PJF> >> directories in the native file system and it worked fine.
PJF> >>
PJF> >> any ideas? i'm on RedHat 7.0
PJF> >>
PJF> >> thanks,
PJF> >> Bob
PJF> >>
PJF> >
PJF> >Windoze has no file attributes like ownership. You can't change the
PJF> >ownership of something which really has no owner.
PJF>
PJF> Well, it does sort of have an owner but only one at a time.
No, this is *faked* by the fs module. Because all *UNIX* files systems
have ownership and the system services (i.e. stat()) use a struct with
fields for ownership and expect them to be fill in with *something*. So
the fat fs module (and the hfs one as well (MacOS)) fakes it by putting
in values acquired at mount time from the mount() system service called
by the mount(8) command.
PJF>
PJF> To get round this you can change the user/group that the filesystem applies
PJF> when mounting, eg in your /etc/fstab file you might want something like:
PJF>
PJF> /dev/hda1 /windows vfat rw,uid=bob,gid=users,user 0 0
PJF>
PJF> (you may need to use the numerical values for user/group)
PJF>
PJF> This mounts the fat partition and all the files will have user/group of
PJF> bob/users. Your normal user can now do whatever you want in that partition.
PJF>
PJF> You can also set the umask='octal' mount option to allow world readable or
PJF> writable or whatever.
And the permissions are also faked, because fat file systems have no
permission information as well as no ownership information.
PJF>
PJF> Frink
PJF>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chown in vfat partition
Date: 13 May 2001 16:47:57 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Chan),
In a message on 13 May 2001 21:57:20 +1000, wrote :
BC> ok i have a file on a vfat partition (windows) it is owned by root:root, i'm
No, you don't. NONE of the files on a vfat partition are owned by
anybody. vfat files don't have owners. Period. The 'ownership' of
files on a vfat partition are *faked* by the vfat fs module.
BC> in my users account and i want to own it so i can write to it:
BC>
BC> $ su root
BC> $ chown bob:users file
BC> $ chown: file: Operation not permitted
BC>
BC> this seems to only happen in this partition because i tried it on other
BC> directories in the native file system and it worked fine.
BC>
BC> any ideas? i'm on RedHat 7.0
Do a 'man 8 mount' for the complete details. Here is the section you need
to look at:
Mount options for fat
(Note: fat is not a separate filesystem, but a common part
of the msdos, umsdos and vfat filesystems.)
blocksize=512 / blocksize=1024
Set blocksize (default 512).
uid=value and gid=value
Set the owner and group of all files. (Default: the
uid and gid of the current process.)
umask=value
Set the umask (the bitmask of the permissions that
are not present). The default is the umask of the
current process. The value is given in octal.
check=value
Three different levels of pickyness can be chosen:
r[elaxed]
Upper and lower case are accepted and equiv-
alent, long name parts are truncated (e.g.
verylongname.foobar becomes verylong.foo),
leading and embedded spaces are accepted in
each name part (name and extension).
n[ormal]
Like "relaxed", but many special characters
(*, ?, <, spaces, etc.) are rejected. This
is the default.
s[trict]
Like "normal", but names may not contain
long parts and special characters that are
sometimes used on Linux, but are not
accepted by MS-DOS are rejected. (+, =,
spaces, etc.)
conv=b[inary] / conv=t[ext] / conv=a[uto]
The fat file system can perform CRLF<-->NL (MS-DOS
text format to UNIX text format) conversion in the
kernel. The following conversion modes are avail-
able:
binary no translation is performed. This is the
default.
text CRLF<-->NL translation is performed on all
files.
auto CRLF<-->NL translation is performed on all
files that don't have a "well-known binary"
extension. The list of known extensions can
be found at the beginning of fs/fat/misc.c
(as of 2.0, the list is: exe, com, bin, app,
sys, drv, ovl, ovr, obj, lib, dll, pif, arc,
zip, lha, lzh, zoo, tar, z, arj, tz, taz,
tzp, tpz, gz, tgz, deb, gif, bmp, tif, gl,
jpg, pcx, tfm, vf, gf, pk, pxl, dvi).
Programs that do computed lseeks won't like in-ker-
nel text conversion. Several people have had their
data ruined by this translation. Beware!
For file systems mounted in binary mode, a conver-
sion tool (fromdos/todos) is available.
debug Turn on the debug flag. A version string and a
list of file system parameters will be printed
(these data are also printed if the parameters
appear to be inconsistent).
fat=12 / fat=16
Specify either a 12 bit fat or a 16 bit fat. This
overrides the automatic FAT type detection routine.
Use with caution!
quiet Turn on the quiet flag. Attempts to chown or chmod
files do not return errors, although they fail. Use
with caution!
sys_immutable, showexec, dots, nodots, dotsOK=[yes|no]
Various misguided attempts to force Unix or DOS
conventions onto a FAT file system.
Note the uid=, gui=, and umask= options.
BC>
BC> thanks,
BC> Bob
BC>
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail sends, but does not receive
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 10:18:47 -0700
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>
>>> MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Dave Uhring wrote:
>>>>> MH wrote:
>>>>> # ps ax | grep sendmail
>>>>> Is it running?
>>> Prove what you say. Show the output of "ps ax | grep sendmail", for
>>> example! Even if we believe you as to sendmail running (and I don't),
>>> sending mail locally may not necessarily involve sendmail, so it may not
>>> say anything about sendmail.
>> [mhaag@ZEUS mhaag]$ ps -ax | grep sendmail
>> 644 ? S 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections
>> [mhaag@ZEUS mhaag]$
>
> OK. Now login to your "server" and telnet to port 25 on ZEUS and type
>
> helo ZEUS
> bye
>
> And tell us the result. Monitor what is happening on ZEUS while you do
> this. It sounds as though you have a sendmail compiled with tcpwrappers
> and you have deny ALL in hosts.deny (which is correct). If that is the
> case you will have to make an exception for sendmail in hosts.allow,
> with "sendmail ALL:ALL". This appears to have been slipped in in RH
> 7.1, for example.
>
> Peter
>
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to ZEUS.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.2/8.11.2; Sun, 13 May 2001
09:53:46 -0700
helo zeus
250 localhost.localdomain Hello ZEUS [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
I have hosts.allow setup to allow ALL boxen on the local network access to
ALL services, thus:
ALL : 192.168.1.
On your suggestion that it might be a security issue, I tried to telnet
into the box from another host and was denied, so you are likely correct
about security being the problem.
There used to be a file /etc/inetd that could be edited to allow or deny
specific services, but this file is apparently no longer used by RH. It
also seems strange that hosts.allow is being ignored? In any case, RH must
have some documentation on their security configuration options somewhere,
so my next step will be to see what I can find.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Date: 13 May 2001 11:27:20 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Linux is big at the colleges near where I live but only in the
> CS/Engineering depts.
> For the most part the rest of the student body is using MS or to a
> surprising degree Apple. The PowerBooks are quite popular out here,
> which surprised me.
Well, MacOS X is simply Apple's version of Linux.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 ISO Download
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:29:11 -0500
Michael Heiming wrote:
> burk wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 12 May 2001 09:25:44 +0200, Peter T. Breuer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >I don't get why you have to "wait". Install it directly from the
> > >ftp site. Stick in boot floppy, select install via ftp, and there
> > >you go. Insistence on an iso image seems plain perverse to me.
> >
> > Some people don't have a fast internet connection on all of their
> > computers. Some people like to give Linux distro's to their
> > friends who access the internet by modem.
> >
> > I just passed SUSE by when I was looking for a new Linux Distro
> > with kernel 2.4.x to play with, strictly because their distro is
> > not available as ISO. Too bad, I'd heard a lot of good things
> > about SUSE. Oh well, Mandrake 8.0 seems to fit my requirements
> > well enough.
>
> Hmmm, SuSE among others pay Linux developer, that they can work full
> time on their projects (Special thanks to Alan Robertson by the
> way, if he reads this).
Dittos. SuSE gives a lot back to the community.
>
> I think that's something we should encourage, by actually buying the
> distro, special for beginners the books (yes they are on the CD)
> that come printed with the distro will be very helpful.
>
> I can't understood why everyone wants those distros for free,
> assuming that most who post here can easily afford them, I payed
>79,95 DM (~40 US$) for > SuSE 7.1 upgrade, ordering directly
>from suse.de.
I bought SuSE 7.1 Pro from Cheapbytes for $59 US
>
> Of course there is, talking about legal issues, nothing wrong with
> downloading whole distros, but morally?
>
> GNU/Linux is about "free in speech", not about "free beer", hope I
> got that right...:-)
>
> Michael Heiming
> --
> UNIX is user-friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: 4GB RAM Problem...
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:53:49 GMT
Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sipke de Wal wrote:
> >
> > Does your MOBO support caching for up to 4GB ???
> > If so is it enabled in the BIOS??
> >
> > Some OS-ses like to allocate RAM from the highest locations downwards so
> > they might run into uncached ram very soon if the caching on your MOBO is
> > not effective for the top of RAM. And that slows things down dramatically!
> >
>
> While this is true e.g. for socket 7, AFAIK with Pentium II and
> above,
pentiumpro (socket 8) cpus can also cache up to 4GB.
> the (L2) cacheable area is no more an issue of the main board, but
> the CPU - and that is 4GB for PII Deschutes and later incl. all
> variations (Celeron Mendocino/Coppermine, various Xeons) IIRC.
> Thus I guess, this is not the problem here.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord doesn't like oggvorbis > WAV
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 10:57:29 -0700
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2001 19:09:56 -0700, MH staggered into the Black Sun and
> said:
>>I recently used oggvorbis to convert a file from OGG to WAV, so that I
>>could distribute it to some friends who use Windows. When I tried to
>>burn the WAV to CD using cdrecord I got the following error:
>>
>>"Inappropriate audio coding in rms_speech.wav"
>
> The problem here is that .WAV is a Microsoft-invented format, and so
> attempting to introduce any content derived from RMS to it is likely to
> result in a matter-antimatter reaction... :-)
>
I thought it might be something like that.
>
> CDDA must be stereo data, sampled at 44100 Hz. If the WAV was sampled
> at a different rate, then it will not work. The following command
> should work:
>
> sox thingy.wav -r 44100 thingy2.wav
I tried that, but no luck. I think oggvorbis does this anyway as part of
the conversion. I also tried the -pad option with cdrecord, as another
poster suggested, but got the same error as before.
I also discovered that my XMMS is no longer functional. I recently
upgraded my box to RH 7.1 w/KDE and I think NOATUN has control of my sound
card! Fortunately, I can play the WAV file just fine with NOATUN.
Maybe I should try to contact the oggvorbis developer(s)?
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord doesn't like oggvorbis > WAV
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 10:58:16 -0700
Paul Lew wrote:
<snip>
> Another possibility is that one should also use the "pad fill" parameter
> in using cdrecord to create an audio cd from .wav; had to do this when
> I created an audio cd converted from mp3 to wav with xmms.
>
Tried, but no go.
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord doesn't like oggvorbis > WAV
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 11:01:22 -0700
Daniel Kenzelmann wrote:
> First: is the file about 10megs/min ?
> if not, then the file is still compressed (OGG) and you either have to
> decompress it (e.g. use xmms with disk writing output)
> or install the appropriate codec (ogg) for windows
>
> the easiest way to get this on CD ,... use XMMS to make a real wave file
> and then use cdrdao (and maybe gtoaster as a graphical frontend)
> to get the tracks on CD.
>
Not sure that this would make a difference, but the OGG file is a recorded
speech, not music tracks. Anyway, I don't see any options in XMMS for
converting files. Is there an oggvorbis plugin (codec?) for Windows? Do
you have a link?
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