Linux-Misc Digest #848, Volume #20 Tue, 29 Jun 99 17:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: An "ls" question (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Linux loses in NT tests
Re: Does Java run well on Linux? (Codifex Maximus)
Re: Strange problem with internal zip drive! ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: can't run executable (Scott Lanning)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Miguel Cruz)
Re: Intel could nip dual-Celeron move in bud (Alex Lam)
Re: Strange problem with internal zip drive! (Philippe Wautelet)
Re: Getting a Soundblaster Live Value to work ("Mark")
Re: RedHat 6, won't login on a Toshiba Tecra 8000??? (Tom Wyrick)
Re: Transferring /home from another disk??? (Stefan Ehlen)
Problem with gnome session manager (Leonard Evens)
Re: leafnode (B'ichela)
Re: Cannot play system sounds!!!!!!! ("Stefan Knabe")
Re: An "ls" question ("Walter L. Williams")
Re: Linux MPEG player (Stefan Ehlen)
Re: fstab and mount troubles (Aaron)
Re: Linux loses in NT tests ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: An "ls" question
Date: 29 Jun 1999 11:36:10 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newsgroups trimmed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Walter L. Williams wrote:
> When I use the ls command ....
> ls -laF
> I get
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 walt group 450992 Feb 19 22.14 sample.file
> The number after the permissions. What does it stand for??
It's the number of hard links to (the contents of) that file.
(What are you doing with world-writable files?!)
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux loses in NT tests
Date: 29 Jun 1999 15:21:54 GMT
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Not unless I knew that sort of experience was common. The fact of the
: matter is that ALL distributions get their share of installation problem
: reports. Given the popularity of Red Hat, it's likely that SOMEBODY would
: have it fail on five out of five machines. That person happened to be
: you. I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a similar tale of woe from
: somebody trying SuSE, or Debian, or Caldera. Plenty of others (myself
: included) have had no problems installing Red Hat.
Excellent point! Let me offer another reason to not trash redHat too
quickly. There are a large number of people/companies who might consider
running a stable version of an OS, particular if it is easily packaged,
has a stable support structure behind it, and has the prospect for
continued support and development of the product over the long-term.
I believe RedHat is attempting to fill that need.
Most people use a computer to run applications and have relatively
little interest in the OS. Although unlikely, I can envision the
following scenario.
Step 1 (1999-2002):
Linux clones of the
Office suite become actual AND PERCEIVED equivalents of the original.
Also, independent application AND GAME software companies expand
offerings of Linux versions of their software (they will probably work on
most Linux platforms but will be officially marketed as compatible with
the most stable and prominent Linux distro which I would think would be
RedHat). Finally, a new game company starts which ONLY offers Linux
versions of its games and its games becomes very
popular. That company's games (which are LINUX only) are prominently
listed by all the game software resellers.
Step 2 (2001-2003):
There is an explosion of people setting up dual boot machines because
they can do 70% of what they want to do in Linux and find it preferable
to living in the MS world. Computer manufacturers switch so as the norm
they deliver machines which are configured as dual boot.
Step 3 (2005):
Delivery of Linux applications to customers exceeds delivery of MS
applications for the first time.
Step 4 (2005-2006):
Microsoft dominance of the software industry plummets rapidly
(just as IBM's dominence of the hardware industry plummeted rapidly
as a result of the PC revolution).
--
Arch
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| Dr. J. Archer Harris Dept of Computer Science |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Madison University |
| (540) 568 - 2774 Harrisonburg, VA 22807 |
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From: Codifex Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does Java run well on Linux?
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:54:46 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Could you share your experience with me?
>
> Java programs dont run well on my windows 95 PC, they are slow and cause
> my system to hang. My PC has a 486 CPU w/ 64 MB RAM.
>
> I would like to learn Java programming. On this old
> 486 PC, i am wodering if it would be better to use Linux.
>
> Please advise. Thank you.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I get reasonable Java performance in Linux using the Blackdown port of
the SUN JDK 1.1.7. I use the TYA1.2 JIT for accelleration and it makes
a very noticable difference. My machine is an AMD K6-2 300 with 100Mhz
FSB and 128MB RAM.
--
Codifex Maximus
Look for me on irc.linux.com #linuxhelp
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Strange problem with internal zip drive!
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:48:07 -0400
There have been several recent reports of buggy IDE Zip support in
the 2.2.x kernels (e.g., RH6.0) and that patches would be forthcoming.
You may have to hang loose for a couple of weeks.
dkmallick wrote in message <7l88tn$2be$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am running Linux-Mandrake 6.0 on a Pentium II 333 which has an IDE zip
>drive.
>I can mount and unmount my zip drive just fine. Lately, I am having a
>strange problem
> - I lose my rights to write on my zip drive, in my user account as well as
>root account. I can read from my zip drive but I cannot write to it. I have
>run control-panel-> access local drive to make sure that I have my
>/etc/fstab entries for /mnt/zip right (auto,no mount, nosuid,user). I used
>to be able to write to /mnt/zip before, both in X as well as in command
line
>mode. I have checked my rights of /mnt/zip and its set to rwxrwxrwx.
>Any idea what may I be doing wrong? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: 29 Jun 1999 15:39:57 GMT
Someone pointed out that I was rude to them in a post here.
I think they are right. I think I have been somewhat rude to
others here, too. I apologize for it. Not that anyone is paying
attention anymore, but to rationalize, I am having trouble
finding a programming job after quitting physics with a master's,
so I guess I am edgy and also a bit rebelious against authority.
That's probably more than I should divulge, but..there you go.
I don't think it's silly to be careful about security;
I just don't like it when people propagate unsubstantiated
ideas, then those thereby become truth ("I've heard it several
times"). Plus I like to debate. :)
Anyway, take it easy,
Scott
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"I do believe God gave me a spark of genius, but he quenched it
in misery." --Edgar Allan Poe
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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Cruz)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:04:52 GMT
Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try going to msnews.microsoft.com and posting your problem in one of the
> newsgroups there. Most people end up being helped.
Honestly, I have. I've only received one response ever, and it didn't solve
the problem. I suspect that the knowledgeable NT people are more
business-oriented and are not giving out free advice on the net because they
think it hurts their business. If my question were about where to find the
Start Menu, I have no doubt that I would receive all sorts of responses.
It's the hardcore development questions that vanish into the ether. Look at
the difference in traffic - and thread length - between the ms devel groups
and the linux devel groups. It's astounding, especially considering how much
more of the market MS has.
> Handy hint: Starting a post by saying "NT Sucks, I can't get this going"
> isn't the best way to ask for help.
No kidding. I have generally been able to resist this temptation. Doesn't
seem to help much.
miguel
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel could nip dual-Celeron move in bud
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:22:37 -0700
Mike Frisch wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:45:55 -0700, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >But AMD doesn't have any SMP cpu yet.
>
> The K7/Athlon is SMP capable, but there is no motherboard that supports
> SMP configurations as of yet. None of the supporters of the K7 technology
> have announced one either.
>
> Mike.
The K-7 is not out yet. I just called my vendor.
Alex Lam.
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> Mike Frisch Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Northstar Technologies WWW: http://saturn.tlug.org/~mfrisch
> Newmarket, Ontario, CANADA
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From: Philippe Wautelet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Strange problem with internal zip drive!
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:50:00 +0200
dkmallick wrote:
> I am running Linux-Mandrake 6.0 on a Pentium II 333 which has an IDE zip
> drive.
> I can mount and unmount my zip drive just fine. Lately, I am having a
> strange problem
> - I lose my rights to write on my zip drive, in my user account as well as
> root account. I can read from my zip drive but I cannot write to it. I have
> run control-panel-> access local drive to make sure that I have my
> /etc/fstab entries for /mnt/zip right (auto,no mount, nosuid,user). I used
> to be able to write to /mnt/zip before, both in X as well as in command line
> mode. I have checked my rights of /mnt/zip and its set to rwxrwxrwx.
Do you know that a zip-disk can be protected against writing. From linux, I
don't know how to do this, but it's possible under windows. So, if you are
using
your disk under windows also, you have to remove the write protection.
Regards
Philippe
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From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Getting a Soundblaster Live Value to work
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:51:33 GMT
NJR,
The car can be installed to work on just about any 2.2.5* kernel. I am using
redhat kernel 2.2.5-22 and it is fine... To install, you must do a manual
install as described by Creative in the driver readme, and them add the line
insmod -f sblive.o
to your rc.local file
This is because when you install the driver in any kernel other than 2.2.5
it will refuse to load from the modules.conf file due to the kernel
conflict. This extra line in rc.local will make the card work despite a
failed module load message preceding it.
Note that the driver only provides sound, not midi.
Mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Has anyone managed to do this at all? I've tried every logical compilation
> option I can think of with my 2.2.7 kernel but I just can't get the damn
thing
> to make a peep. All I ever get is a "No such device" error when trying to
> access /dev/audio or /dev/dsp. I've had no luck with modules either.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> NJR
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From: Tom Wyrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6, won't login on a Toshiba Tecra 8000???
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:39:50 GMT
Mine does this too. I haven't gotten a good answer as to why yet.
All I can think of is to try disabling the power management features in
RedHat. I suspect they're the culprit.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Sergio D�az" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just installed redhat 6.0 on my Toshiba Tecra 8000, the
> install process went well and there were no probles at all.
>
> From the first time it booted, when I get to the login screen
> my keyboard stops responding. I can't key in anything at all.
>
> I think its my keyboard, but maybe the whole thing died?
>
> I don't think so, because I see the HD working once in a while.
>
> Any suggestions???
>
> - Sergio
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ehlen)
Subject: Re: Transferring /home from another disk???
Date: 29 Jun 1999 20:19:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ronald Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, I just purchased a new system with a big drive and I want to
> transfer my /home partition from another disk.
> I have linux installed in a partition on my new drive. So I install the
> old drive in my system so
> that it is recognized by the BIOS and then what??? I assume I would
> mount the drive and then transfer
> the files??
The procedure (and more) is descibed in the Hard-Disk-Upgrade-mini-howto
CU
Stefan
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Problem with gnome session manager
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:58:34 -0500
I've upgraded to RH 6.0 on a Winbook laptop. Whenever I
reboot, and then login as myself,
instead of getting a message about the enlightentment
window manager starting, I get gnome logo and then nothing
for quite a while. Eventually I get the enlightentment message
and then after some more waiting my desktop. However, at
this point clicking on logout fails to bring up the logout
menu. Checking my configuration, I find that the usual
menu for the session manager fails to bring anything up.
The only way to get out is to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill
X.
I've also tried using WindowMaker as a window manager instead,
but the same thing happens.
Subsequent logins seem normal. Also, I think if I login
as root after rebooting, this errant behavior does not occur.
Finally, on my office machine also running RH 6.0 and gnome,
I don't get anything similar happening. As far as I can tell,
my gnome setup seems to be the same on both machines.
Any ideas?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: leafnode
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:23:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Wagner wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Your last line gave me the solution, case I was using version 1.7.x.
>After I�ve installed the 1.9.x version everthing worked good.
>
>Thanks Daniel.
>
>--
>Java rulz! Linux rulz!
>
>E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>ICQ: 41472160
>WWW: http://www.computer.privateweb.at/daniel.wagner/
Where can I get the latest Leafnode? I used to use it. but it crashed too
often to be usable here. ver 1.5 or so Would like to try it again.
--
A pearl of wisdom from the y2K newsgroups:
=========================================================================
Y2K appears to be the Baby Boomers mid-life crisis, and it has the
potential to be a dandy.
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==========================================================================
B'ichela
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From: "Stefan Knabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot play system sounds!!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:09:04 +0200
You have to activate kaudioserver, kwmsound in startkde. They are disabled
by default because of some potential problems.
SuSE schrieb in Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi all,
>
> I have just installed SuSE 6.1 and found that it cannot play the
>system sounds (that is, the sound that will heard when i open, close,
>minimize a window... etc).
>
>Byron
>
>
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From: "Walter L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An "ls" question
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:14:48 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Kimoto wrote:
> (What are you doing with world-writable files?!)
>
It was only an example for my question.
Thank you all for the input.
Walt in Utah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ehlen)
Subject: Re: Linux MPEG player
Date: 29 Jun 1999 20:30:00 GMT
In article <7kpnue$sm9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a weird problem playing mpegs with xanim. I appear to get a frame
> rate of only 2-3 frames per second and the video is distorted. However avi's
> and qt's play just fine. I have a Matrox Millenium card and am running
> RH6.0. The same mpeg's play fine under Win95 with MS Media Player. Are
> there any other, better MPEG players for Linux?
Perhaps you want to have a look at http://www.mpegtv.com/download.html
The freeware player, mtvp, has its drawbacks, but I think it's very usable
CU
Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron)
Subject: Re: fstab and mount troubles
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:16:30 GMT
Thanks for the help. It turned out that the device was hda2. Could
it have changed, because it sure seems like it was hda1 the first time
I tried it.
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:29:51 GMT, Ted Sikora
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aaron wrote:
>>
>> I am having trouble mounting my windows drive. I got it to work once,
>> then I tried to add it to fstab and now I can't get it to work at all.
>> The drive is hda1. My original mount command was:
>>
>> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/drive1
>>
>> That worked the first time. Then I decided I wanted it to be
>> automatically mounted at startup and I also wanted it in /drive1
>> instead of mnt/drive1, so I added following to fstab and created the
>> /drive1 directory.
>>
>> /dev/hda1 /drive1 vfat user 0 0
>>
>> ftstab also contained the folowing line:
>>
>> /dev/hda
>>
>> What does that do? Do I need to worry about the spacing on the fstab
>> lines? Anyway, the automount didn't work and now I can't mount it
>> manually or the new mount point /drive1 or the old mount point
>> /mnt/drive1. The error I get is:
>>
>> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, or too
>> many mounted files systems.
>>
>> Any clues or advice?
>
>Try:
>
>/dev/hda1 /drive1 vfat rw defaults 1 1
>
>in /etc/fstab.(Make sure the /drive1 directory exists.)
>
>Under /proc/filesystems you do have:
>
>umsdos
>msdos
>vfat
>
>listed?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux loses in NT tests
Date: 29 Jun 1999 15:54:04 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
= Step 4 (2005-2006):
= Microsoft dominance of the software industry plummets rapidly
= (just as IBM's dominence of the hardware industry plummeted rapidly
= as a result of the PC revolution).
Step 5 (2006-)
Bill Gates sees how the tide is turning and how his stocks are falling, and
sells up, buys an island, and lives as a recluse for the rest of his life.
(Hey, we can always dream, can't we?)
:)
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| Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
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