Linux-Misc Digest #11, Volume #19 Sat, 13 Feb 99 17:13:09 EST
Contents:
SingleBoard Computer + LILO + HDD = 0 (Jim Howes)
Re: rebuilding the kernel (Andreas Schyman)
Re: rebuilding the kernel (Leighton)
Re: FreeBSD / Linux project (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Modem init woes ( ezppp?) (Bill Unruh)
Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99
Re: MT5634ZPX-PCI modem (Luc Dijon)
Re: Big HDD Problems in Linux? ("Charles Stack")
Re: CD-RW Problem - Help Please!! (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86 (Mike Delaney)
Re: sendmail-rhcn-8.9.3-1 RPM and SRPM for Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2 (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: X Windows, low resolution (Lee Prior Collier)
Newbie FTP/Firewall problem... ("Lester Godwin")
Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix ("ACE Alex")
Re: [Q]how to swap Ctrl/CapsLock keys (boyd)
Re: netscape freeze (Jan Houtsma)
Re: Tin (Jeff Grossman)
printcap and header pages (Chris Poultney)
Re: Fonts/KDE/StarOffice (Stephen Richard FREELAND)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Jim Howes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: SingleBoard Computer + LILO + HDD = 0
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:16:18 +0000
I have a strange problem with LILO and a number of singleboard
computers that have a DiskOnChip device.
I have built a number of kernels, all of which atleast attempt
to boot on other hardware.
All of these kernels work fine when booted from floppy with
no hard disk present.
However, when booting any kernel with LILO with a hard disk
connected (even one where I've zero'd the partition sector)
I get:
LILO Loading linux...........
{various garbage characters}
and the system hangs.
Loading via LOADLIN works fine, as does loading a kernel by
just dumping a zImage to a disk (although I can't pass kernel
command line arguments easily this way).
I have tried this on four seperate Nova-600 boards from ICP,
all of which fail. Disabling the DiskOnChip doesn't make the
problem go away either.
I get the garbage when I boot from a hard disk too.
Mysteriously, when booting from the DOC using the version of LILO
modified by M-Systems, all appears to be fine.
Regards,
Jim
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From: Andreas Schyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rebuilding the kernel
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:12:51 +0100
> tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT> zimage
> Root device is (3, 65)
> Boot sector 512 bytes.
> Setup is 4352 bytes.
> System is 593 kB
> System is too big
> make[1]: ***[zimage] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/boot'
> make: ***[boot] Error 2
The problem is as it says, the system is too big. However, there is a
way around this. Instead of doing "make boot" (which is actually "make
zImage") do a "make bzImage" which will allow you to have a larger
system. That should do it.
Andreas.
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From: Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rebuilding the kernel
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:59:39 +0000
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To rebuild my kernel i do the following:
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
make dep clean
make
make bzImage
cd arch/i386/boot
cp bzImage /boot/vmlinuz.2.2.1 ('cause I have kernel 2.2.1 )
lilo
I have setup lilo (/etc/lilo.conf) to boot either from oldlinux (kernel
2.0.36) or from linux by default (kernel 2.2.1). See man lilo for
details.
Hope that helps. Feel free to email if you want more help. (take the
NO_SPAM from my email address to make it work)
Tim.
Bradford Patten wrote:
> I am new to Linux and am steping my way through a book (Red Hat Linux
> Secrets). I have a pentium 133, 32 megs of ram, PCI 100 mg eithernet
> card, etc. The book came with Red Hat 5.1. I have installed it
> successfully and am now trying to rebuild the kernel with my specific
> components installed (chapter 2 of the book). I first went to
> /usr/src/linux and typed make config. This stepped me through
> sellecting various parts of include in the kernel and others that
> would be built into modules. After going through several times, often
> my selections for a sound card through things off, I was able to
> complete the config file. I then, per instruction, typed make dep;
> make clean; make boot. At this point things seemed to go according to
> plan. 10 to 20 minutes later the process ended with the following
> problems.
>
> tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT> zimage
> Root device is (3, 65)
> Boot sector 512 bytes.
> Setup is 4352 bytes.
> System is 593 kB
> System is too big
> make[1]: ***[zimage] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/boot'
> make: ***[boot] Error 2
>
> It then sent me back to the [root@localhost linux]#
>
> Thanks
> Bradford
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To rebuild my kernel i do the following:
<p>cd /usr/src/linux
<br>make menuconfig
<br>make dep clean
<br>make
<br>make bzImage
<br>cd arch/i386/boot
<br>cp bzImage /boot/vmlinuz.2.2.1 ('cause I have kernel 2.2.1 )
<br>lilo
<p>I have setup lilo (/etc/lilo.conf) to boot either from oldlinux (kernel
2.0.36) or from linux by default (kernel 2.2.1). See man lilo for
details.
<p>Hope that helps. Feel free to email if you want more help. (take
the NO_SPAM from my email address to make it work)
<p>Tim.
<p>
<br>Bradford Patten wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I am new to Linux and am steping my way through a
book (<u>Red Hat Linux Secrets</u>). I have a pentium 133, 32 megs of ram,
PCI 100 mg eithernet card, etc. The book came with <u>Red Hat 5.1</u>.
I have installed it successfully and am now trying to rebuild the kernel
with my specific components installed (chapter 2 of the book). I first
went to<i> <tt>/usr/src/linux</tt></i> and typed make config. This stepped
me through sellecting various parts of include in the kernel and others
that would be built into modules. After going through several times, often
my selections for a sound card through things off, I was able to complete
the config file. I then, per instruction, typed <i><tt>make dep; make clean;
make boot</tt></i>. At this point things seemed to go according to plan.
10 to 20 minutes later the process ended with the following problems.
<p><i><tt>tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT> zimage</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>Root device is (3, 65)</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>Boot sector 512 bytes.</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>Setup is 4352 bytes.</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>System is 593 kB</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>System is too big</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>make[1]: ***[zimage] Error 1</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/boot'</tt></i>
<br><i><tt>make: ***[boot] Error 2</tt></i>
<p>It then sent me back to the<tt> <i>[root@localhost linux]#</i></tt>
<p>Thanks
<br>Bradford</blockquote>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD / Linux project
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:45:10 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:28:52 -0500...
..and Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What if there could be a project devoted to creating a new OS, composed
> of FreeBSD --> Linux?
Not doable. Not practical. Not a Good Thing.
The free *BSD projects produce a free BSD UNIX. Under the Berkeley
License. They try to keep it as BSD as possible.
Linux is not a BSD UNIX, and software under Linux is most often GPL
licensed (the kernel is GPLed, too).
Merging a free *BSD and Linux is as good as impossible, and I don't
see any need for doing so.
mawa
--
Actually, the fun thing about playing the piano is that you can walk
around in town with a Henle Urtext score, showing off, and feeling
like a *musician*.
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem init woes ( ezppp?)
Date: 13 Feb 1999 20:13:11 GMT
In <6EdlDdCticdK-pn2-K6Qdoq15gvmm@localhost> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> linux suse 5.1 is up and running users created, ezppp,netscape
>installed,
> 56k U.S. Rob int voice modem doesnt seem to start, ezppp starts i hit
>connect i here modem pick up i see atdt in window then it says
>expecting OK and basically stops , nothing else happens. Then i shut
>it down after awhile, anyone have any ideas, modem init strings
>maybe???
You did not say what kind of modem you have. some the USR modems are
"winmodems" ( the computer does all of the work the modem is supposed to
do), and no drivers have ever been written for them in Linux.
If it is not a winmodem then make sure that you have the right port for
the modem
(COM1=/dev/ttyS0, Com2=/dev/ttyS1 ....)
Try to use minicom to send it messages. Try to yse isapnp to set it up
if it is a pnp modem.
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Crossposted-To: dc.general
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:29:39 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99
> [...] their infosystems are still back in
> the late 80s, and they're going to be buying boatloads of infosystems. It
> bothers me that most of those will have software costs amounting to five
> times the cost of the hardware...
> Besides, the way that the DC Procurements system is set up, it practically
> _requires_ vendors to bundle software with their hardware/systems, in any
> event, _only whoever makes the most attractive offer of software bundled
> free can win a competitive bid_. And that inherently guarantees that DC
> gets locked into NT, with the associated excessive software costs.
It seems there is an opportunity for a vendor to make an
offer to bundle Linux and all of the associated free software
as well as administrative support at a competitive price.
Greg
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From: Luc Dijon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.binaries.warez.linux,alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: MT5634ZPX-PCI modem
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:14:19 +0100
Hi Orm (and All),
I'am experimenting exactly the same problems with a modem Mutli-Mobile
MT5634ZLXI.
But , I think I'am in a worst situation than you...
The pcmcia modem card is identified by Linux as an "anonymous"
device...typical to Win modems....
I modified the /etc/pcmica/config to load the "serial_cs" module instead of
the default one "memory_cs". The "cardmgr" still complains with this module
saying the device is temporarly unavailable....
Any more clue?
To you suspect we need a specific module for this modem?
Multi-Tech does not provide yet Linux drivers for this modem?
Anybody heard something about the availability od such a driver?
Thanks all,
Luc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a Multitech MT5634ZPX-PCI modem its not a "winmodem" and it will
> operate under Unix,OS2,windows and according to Multitech Linux as well
> "in therory". I've see people posting articles claiming that this modem
> should work but I have yet to see anyone back it up with any facts ect.
> I'm begining to think that I'm wasting my time messing with this modem
> but right now I just want to prove it does or doesn't work.
>
> My Windows 98 Modem Settings are:
>
> IRQ 11
> COM 5
> UART 16550AN
>
> Do I set my Linux settings to match my windows settings ? Example:
> setserial /dev/ttys4 IRQ 11 UART 16559
>
> When I use the setserial command It shows the changes have been made but
> I'm unable to get the modem to anything. I can use minicom to dial and it
> says its dailing but it just hangs there.
>
> anyone has any ideas??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken Bell
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From: "Charles Stack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Big HDD Problems in Linux?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:23:58 -0500
Well...With RH 5.2, I installed a 4.2 GB HD into an old 486 Compaq and had
absolutely NO PROBLEMS with it recognizing and using all available space. I
DID have problems with RH 5.0 and a 2.5 GB drive on a newer pentium system.
RH 5.2 automatically created all the needed partitions for me without a
hitch. When I look at lilo.conf, there is nothing about the size of my HD.
So, I guess the folks at RedHat solved this one.
Charles
Colin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If I wanted to install Linux on a big HDD > 2.1GB, would there be a
problem
>> doing so? Is there any >1024 cylinders problems to worry about?
>>
>> BOB
>>
>> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
>The first problem is specific to Microsoft's FAT16 format. The second
problem
>you still have to worry about because it is a problem with all BIOSes.
>
>--
>Reply to "cwv [at] idirect (dot) com"
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-RW Problem - Help Please!!
Date: 13 Feb 1999 14:22:28 -0600
In article <atuw2.2640$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Roundeye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I would just like to know how you got the 8100 to both write and be
>mountable... :-)
>I'm using the new 2.2.1 kernel and can either mount the 8100 (but can't
>write to it), or can reconfigure the kernel to be able to write CD-R's
>but then I can't mount them. It is an interesting dilemma.
Are you using the right device name? I think when you enable the
scsi emulation so the /dev/sg* (generic) device works for writing
the mountable device changes from /dev/hd* (ide) to /dev/scd* like
a SCSI unit. Try using /dev/scd0.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Delaney)
Subject: Re: IntelliMouse problem with XFree86
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Date: 13 Feb 99 20:27:31 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x Derek Lakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Look in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (or weherever you have the same file). It
: probably has the command 'gpm -R -m /dev/mouse -t mman' (the mman at the end
: is for MouseMan mice, yours should be something different, e.g. ms3).
: This loads gpm when you login to give you mouse access outside of X Windows.
: If you delete the -R it should work. It worked for me.
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <1999Jan28.102224.56595@ludens>...
: >Hi!
: >I have a problem with configuring my serial MS IntelliMouse with X under
: Linux.
: >I have Slackware 3.3 (2.0.30 kernel, XFree86 3.3). When configuring X
: (XF86Setup, xf86config or directly editing XF86Config), I
: >tried each possible setup, but the mouse cursor didn't want to move anyway.
: >With XF86Setup (VGA16 server) I was able to use to mouse as IntelliMouse,
: but just until I started the final X server.
I had a similar problem, however on my system the mouse worked intermittantly.
(sp?) Sometimes the mouse would work when the server satarted up, sometimes
not. I got into the habit of making sure it worked before logging in from
XDM. If it didn't, I just hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace until it did.
(No, gpm was not running.)
Followups set to comp.os.linux.x only.
--
Mike Delaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: sendmail-rhcn-8.9.3-1 RPM and SRPM for Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2
Date: 13 Feb 1999 14:32:07 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Bourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:58:37 +0100, Alexandre did say with great verbosity:
>:Why don't you include virtusertable,relay-domains ?
>
>You can, just add FEATURE(virtusertable,`hash -o /etc/virtusertable')dnl
>to /usr/doc/sendmail-rhcn-8.9.3/cf/cf/asi-redhat.mc and remake with m4 do
>add it. All the default configuration files for sendmail are then,
>including the .mc file to build the sendmail.cf that is installed with the
>RPM.
Is there some reason for putting this under /usr/doc instead of
/usr/lib/sendmail-cf where the original redhat version lives?
Also, is there any explanation for the items in the mc file
that differ from the redhat version. I appreciate having the
rpm package but I still like to know what it is doing and why.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Lee Prior Collier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X Windows, low resolution
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:39:20 +0000
Efi Merdler wrote:
> Hi
> I finally configured my X Windows (Redhat).
> I can not change my resolution, I have a very low resolution maybe 320*200.
> I tried using Ctrl-Shift +(Numpad), but it does not work.
>
> What should I do ?
>
> Thank you for reading
I had that problem - and it was because I needed to download an updated
X-server for my graphics card....
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From: "Lester Godwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie FTP/Firewall problem...
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:32:55 -0600
Hello All--
I have configured an old i486 as a firewall to connect my private network to
the rest of the world and I have another Pentium linux box on the public
side of the firewall. Currently I can FTP to the public Pentium box from
the outside. However when I connect to it from private network (through the
firewall) the connection suceeds but I get an error: "500 Illegal PORT
command" when I execute "ls" and other commands.
To start out I have the firewall configured to forward everything:
ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -S 10.0.0.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
Also if I try to FTP to the firewall from either the public side or the
private side the connection is immediately closed. Someone please enlighten
me!!!
--
Lester Godwin
No private email, please, unless expressly invited.
--
Lester Godwin
No private email, please, unless expressly invited.
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From: "ACE Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:50:41 +0100
>On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:06:27 -0800, Richard Latimer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:35:47 -0500, "Carlos A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm wondering if Explorer 4.0 that Microsoft offers for download if it
>>will
>>>>work under RedHat 5.2 / KDE ? Will it work under Linux?
>>>
>>>WHY????? The whole point of using Linux is to get out of the
>>>MS-Monopoly
>>
>>Is there any package for Linux that comes anywhere near the functionality
>>of IE?
>
>Yes. Linux does have web browsers.
>
>Unless you are referring to some magic voodoo power that IE has that I'm
>unaware of.
Im a web developer and sadly I have to say that IE4 is far better with java
script and Css. Netscape claims they have full suport for it but i dont
agree with that!
So yes,, as long as netscape cant show every page on the net i would say
that there would be nice to have ie 4!
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From: boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q]how to swap Ctrl/CapsLock keys
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:06:31 -0500
See man loadkeys.
Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:52:31 +0100
From: Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape freeze
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Not that it will make you happy but i have exactly the same
configuration AND problem!!!
I have posted it already in other newsgroups also. No answers yet :-(
jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman)
Subject: Re: Tin
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:49:36 GMT
Stefan Davids <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jeff> I want my from line in Tin to show "Jeff Grossman
> jeff> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])", but when I put that in, it tells me
> jeff> that it is an illegal from line. How do I format the line
> jeff> and where do I change it permanently?
>
>According to the RFC's you should use either `Realname <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
>or `[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Realname)' - I suspect this is why it complains.
>
>Tin prefers the first form and should set that automatically. You can
>either set your hostname when you build tin, or with the Redhat RPM it
>will read it from /etc/HOSTNAME. I don't think there's any way to get
>the second form without hacking the source.
That should work. I guess I was doing it wrong. I was using the "("
instead of "<". Now that I know, I will try it the correct way.
Thanks,
Jeff
---
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Chris Poultney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: printcap and header pages
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:39:21 -0500
I've been unable to configure my linux to stop sending header pages to
the printer with each print job. I read the man page for /etc/printcap
and added what seemed to be the right thing (sh), but nothing changed.
I've changed other things in printcap which did affect the printer, so I
know the file is not being completely ignored, but I can't get the
header pages to stop printing. Here's the only uncommented line of the
file:
lp|rlp|kinky:rp=kinky:lp=/dev/null:rm=207.122.14.15:sd=/var/spool/lpd/kinky:sh:
I'm running Slackware linux 2.0.30. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
-Chris P.
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From: Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fonts/KDE/StarOffice
Date: 13 Feb 1999 21:57:51 GMT
Esa Tikka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I don't know how the original poster sees this, but I think that it'd be
: nice if there was some other useful fonts in the package than times, as
: it's a bit dull. A little more stylish fonts, like garamond etc, could be
: a nice touch. Then again, I've no use with starbats and it's kind.
I agree, the usual selection is pretty bland by Windoze's glitzy
standards. Lucida is pretty nice, though. Installing TT support is
worthwhile, anyways.
:> Next, you need to convert the TT fonts to Type 1 Postscript (.pfb)
:>and Adobe Font Metrics (.afm) format. I used the package
: You seem to know, so:
: What difference there are between .pfa, .pfb and .pfm files? Postscript
: is quite unknown area to me though I'm no way a newbie with computers.
Hmmm... Not sure what .pfm files are. .pfb vs. .pfa is (based on
some pretty sketchy knowledge) that the .pfb files are "compiled" into
binary format. They're smaller and probably easier to process for the
computer, but human-unreadable. (Although for most people, even the
plain text .pfa files are gibberish, so the point is moot)
: I was also wondering this thing, so thanks from me also.
My pleasure.
: I just would like to know, if StarOffices psetup could copy the files to
: their right places and update psstd.fonts? At least updating by hand
: sounds quite awkward... (ok, I'm lazy :)
psetup? Hm, I didn't realize there was font management stuff in
psetup. Hmmmm.... From what I can tell at a quick glance, it doesn't
really help with the tedious stuff. You'll still need to go through the
conversion (it doesn't seem to know about anything but Type 1 (.pf*) fonts
*at all*)... and it doesn't look like it would help if you don't know what
you're doing... Nice effort, though, I suppose. :^>
Ciao... . SNF .
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | bit of a minimalist.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 13 Feb 1999 21:35:58 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Goerzen) writes:
> What about Debian is harder? It pioneered the idea of the "smart"
> package manager. That is the single biggest thing missing from
> FreeBSD, IMHO.
What do pkg_add and pkg_delete fail to do? Is it that they don't grok
dependencies?
kai `newbie FreeBSD user, coming from Debian'
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