Linux-Misc Digest #10, Volume #19 Sat, 13 Feb 99 15:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux 2.2 upgrade pack for Red Hat 5.2 available (James Bourne)
Re: How can I make my linux machine beep with internal speaker? (Klaus Kocheisen)
Re: Network card 3com 3C509B Etherlink 3 - problems anyone had this?? ("Anonymous")
Re: jdk coredumped
Re: set up small word-processing system (Walter Strong)
Re: Opinions about LyX? (Martin Stenzel)
Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99
Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux (Jim Esparza)
Re: KDE is a Memory Hog. (Lee Prior Collier)
Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux ("Edward F. VanderBush III")
Re: How do I know which window manager I am using? (Christopher B. Browne)
Simple cron job question
Re: MS IIS Vs Apache (William Wueppelmann)
Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors (Jose Urena)
Re: Feasible LILO config? ("David A. Frantz")
Re: Glide (Dan Crooks)
Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often (Jan Houtsma)
Re: Display issue on a Linux workstation (Ilya)
Re: Emacs and Afterstep problem (Ilya)
Re: Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1 (Ilya)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Kinkster)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Bourne)
Subject: Re: Linux 2.2 upgrade pack for Red Hat 5.2 available
Date: 13 Feb 1999 17:42:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12 Feb 1999 17:04:27 -0000, Timothy Murphy did say with great verbosity:
:It seems curious that you don't include the kernel itself.
:My impression is that there used to be a 2.2 kernel RPM at redhat,
:but that it has been removed.
:Is that correct?
:[In fact it didn't work for me.]
Hi,
Sorry, but we aren't about to produce a kernel RPM for several reasons,
primarily we feel a generic "Everything you'll ever need" type of kernel
binary distribution aproach is not as stable as building for a specific
machine or small group of specific machines.
But, there should be a kernel SRPM that is available from Red Hat's Rawhide
distribution.
Regards,
Jim
:
:
:--
:Timothy Murphy
:e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:tel: +353-1-2842366
:s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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Affinity Systems Inc. | WWW: http://www.affinity-systems.ab.ca
Everything Unix | Linux: The choice of a GNU generation
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Unix System Administration, System programming, Network Administration
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From: Klaus Kocheisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How can I make my linux machine beep with internal speaker?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:33:06 +0100
Anthony Pioli schrieb:
>
> If a beep is all you want:
>
> print "\a";
>
> Anthony
Looks like you didn't read the message of Tobias thoroughly. He wrote,
that his script beeps happily if run at the console or a terminal but
not within a cron job. The reason why it's not beeping is that cron is a
daemon and thus, any job run by cron runs (like cron itself) without a
controlling terminal. Therefore, any data written to stdout or stderr
goes to nirvana.
--
To reply via email remove 'NOSPAM' from email address
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From: "Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Network card 3com 3C509B Etherlink 3 - problems anyone had this??
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:05:58 -0500
I had similar problems: the network connection was OK, but only at 10Mbits.
The easiest solution is to buy another NIC.
Al Dev wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I installed redhat 5.2 on pentium 90 box having the 3com 3c509B
>Etherlink 3 network card.
>
>The networking does not work.
>
>if I do -
># ifconfig eth0 up
>
>it says SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily not available
>
>ifconfig eth0 gives
>IRQ 10 address 0020 af ea 85 b6
>
>Anyone had this problem? How to get around this one?
>
>I have another box which has 3c59x card and it works fine.
>
>al
>
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From: nonet@chain ()
Subject: Re: jdk coredumped
Date: 13 Feb 1999 18:31:37 GMT
Hans Wolters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Paolo Proni wrote:
: :Hello,
: : I tried to install jdk 1.1.5 on my Linux.
: :When finished I wrote:
: :javac myappl.java
: :and I got
: :core dumped
: :What has happened? Why cannot I use javac ?
:
Use jdk117v1a from http://www.blackdown.org.
Make sure you get either the libc5 or glibc version, depending on your
system.
DON'T upgrade to glibc 2.1 yet, since it breaks blackdown. (Plus, there's
some licensing disputes right now.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: set up small word-processing system
Date: 12 Feb 1999 15:17:24 GMT
steve mcadams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I've scavenged enough spare parts to put together a system for my son.
: He's 21, knows little about computers; says he wants to use it as a
: word-processor, basically no more than a typewriter with a disk
: system.
: The system I've put together is based on a Packard-Bell DX2-50
: multimedia system. The thing seems only to have 4meg of ram, and
[snip]
: Anyway, I'm concerned that as a near-computer-illterate user, he might
: have trouble learning emacs or whatever. I personally like mcedit or
[snip]
: So does this sound like a decent plan, if so what would you recommend
: as a WYSIWYG editor that will provide print support? I've also
[snip]
Given the above, dos with WP6.0 for Dos would be the way to go. It has a
full WYSIWYG mode, decent file conversion options, and printer drivers
for anything under the sun. There's nothing non-X that compares with it.
On the other hand, if he's willing to spend a bit of time learning Latex,
that would run fine on a non-X system, be usable with the simplest of
text processors (pico, joe, whatever) AND produce documents to rival the
newest versions of any Corel or MS product...
p.s. Latex isn't that hard to learn, certainly no more arcane than wp5
with its flashing cursor to indicate a number of things, and its "F1, 8, 3,
no, yes, try again" routines for the simplest of formatting
requirements. If you're son has never used wp51 then it's unlikely that
the learning curve would be any different than if he started with Latex.
Plus, there's great NG support for Latex.
Yes, that's the way to go... Linux and Latex.
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From: Martin Stenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:44:03 +0100
I strongly suggest you go for LaTeX, not least because it will be a
mathematical theme you will be dealing with.
LyX will not support half of the possibilities available with LaTeX.
Plus, when something goes wrong, with the WYSIWYG LyX it is difficult
to track down the error source.
Good luck, I am doing my doctoral thesis with LaTeX and am still amazed!
--
Martin Stenzel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
13156 Berlin - Germany
Phone / Fax +49 / 30 / 477 555 49
On 4 Feb 1999, Pas Moi wrote:
> >> "Q" == QM wrote on 4 Feb 1999 12:15:32 GMT:
>
> Q> Hi, I'll need to write my thesis (subject is a math/engineering
> Q> one) soon and I was thinking about using LyX, instead of latex
> Q> directly. Can anyone offer any opinions about LyX, as I don't want
> Q> to get my fingers burnt at a stage late into my thesis. Thanks very
> Q> much.
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Crossposted-To: dc.general
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:20:28 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux InstallFest -- DC -- 20 Feb 99
> >I think we should relax, be friendly, let Linux sell itself.
>
> As it happens, I discovered for myself yesterday that it
> will be a while before Linux sells itself. I spent over two
> hours trying to configure the video driver for X Windows --
> I say this as a Linux fan and user for the last four years:
> If Linux is ever going to sell itself, the hackers that created it
> are going to have to take time off from tweaking the kernel and
> get cracking on _successfully_ automating the video configuration
> portion of the installation process.
That's not the job of kernel hackers, that's the job
of each distribution such as Red Hat, Debian, etc.
I'm not familiar with others but Red Hat 5.2 is relatively
easy to install--at least as easy as a new install of
Win95/98.
In any case, these Install Fests are well attended,
very supportive, and very helpful for those who need
special configurations or just a basic install of
Linux on their box.
--Greg
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From: Jim Esparza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:55:06 GMT
"Tat M. Leung" wrote:
>
> I have a computer currently running NT server using NTFS. I like to add a
> second harddisk to the computer and install RedHat Linux on this drive. The
> second harddisk will be used for Linux exclusively. I understand that if NT
> is using FAT, there would not be any problem. Since my system is using
> NTFS, can I install RedHat Linux on this system?
>
> Thank you for any advise.
>
> Tat
According to the notes on my RedHat 5.2, that is no problem, (even
though
I am having problems with getting NT/FAT to work with 5.2 - you might
want to see my post)
Jim
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From: Lee Prior Collier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE is a Memory Hog.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:04:13 +0000
Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:02:00 -0600, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> this little gem:
>
> >Yes, I have done extensive application development with big enterprise
> >companies. Obvious is not so to you I guess. I have much experience and I
> >am fluent using MFC under Visual C++ 5.0+ and of course every good business
> >has required me to use Visual Basic 5.0 (no ADO, sorry) and SQL Server 6.5.
>
> This is probably really off topic, but what the hell is the deal with Visual
> Basic (any version). I dicked around with it for a while, and my god, what a
> load of crap it is. I go out of my way to remove it from my resume.
>
> Example:
>
> I wrote code in Builder C++ 3.0 and the resulting executable was <500K (all
> libs, etc).
>
> The same code (actually it did less) in VB5.0 required 3 floppies.
>
> Oh and more importantly, it's not C (and does not adhere to any structural type
> of programming) so inherently it sucks.
>
> Murphy
>
> "Trying is the first step towards failure" - Homer J. Simpson
>
> For links and guides to:
> Dodge RAMS
> jump to http://www.geocities.com/~fireball_x
> OverClocking, 3D Cards and PC Games
> jump to http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/binary/249/
> Wrestling
> jump to http://murphy.engineering.webjump.com
You're right, VB is technically a very poor language, however it is very quick to
learn and easy to hack out pretty W95/98 apps. VB programmes are also easy to
maintain becuase any layperson can learn the language.
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From: "Edward F. VanderBush III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:15:40 -0500
Tat,
I am running a dual botted system with Linux and NT (NTFS) just fine, Can
they share data between harddrives (NTFS partion to Linux and ivce versa) Hmmm
never tried it. They can coexist though
Tat M. Leung wrote:
> I have a computer currently running NT server using NTFS. I like to add a
> second harddisk to the computer and install RedHat Linux on this drive. The
> second harddisk will be used for Linux exclusively. I understand that if NT
> is using FAT, there would not be any problem. Since my system is using
> NTFS, can I install RedHat Linux on this system?
>
> Thank you for any advise.
>
> Tat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How do I know which window manager I am using?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:06:31 GMT
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:08:13 -0500, Shomboli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>OK, I downloaded wm2 and wmx; now to figure what to do with them:
>I'm a total newbie at linux, just installed it a week ago. I notice I'll
>need to compile these files, so now to figure how to do that.....
I've not used wm2; it seems a little overly spartan to my mind.
With wmx, once you compile it, which shouldn't be too rough, you then
set up the "menu" by creating executible files in the directory
$HOME/.wmx/
You would, perhaps, do something like the following:
% cd ~
% mkdir .wmx
% cd .wmx
% ln -s `which emacs` Emacs
% ln -s `which exmh` EXMH
% ln -s `which netscape` Netscape
% ln -s `which rxvt` Rxvt
% cat > Slrn
#!/bin/sh
/usr/X11R6/bin/rxvt -fn lucidasanstypewriter-bold-14 -geometry 80x40 -e slrn --spool
^D
% chmod a+x Slrn
And perhaps other things that you'd like to be able to run from the menu.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: nonet@chain ()
Subject: Simple cron job question
Date: 13 Feb 1999 18:29:49 GMT
Hi,
My redhat install does some log rotations in the wee hours (4am or so).
How do I schedule this for a different time?
Thanks,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: MS IIS Vs Apache
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:04:20 GMT
In our last episode (Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:12:37 +0000),
the artist formerly known as cufc said:
>Hi, I have been tasked at work to provide a Webserver (Hardware and
>software)
>for our corporate intranet, I am an NT/Novell admin by trade but am
>getting more
>and more interested in Linux ( I hve been using it for about 12 months)
>This is maybe a chance to introduce linux into my working environment
>My question is, although I have been using linux for a while, I have
>never looked at
>apache webserver, Can anyone give me any insight into its ease of use
>and administration
>The intranet will start off simple at first, but will require setting up
>departmental security
>individual homepages/ability to check e-mail via Exchange server/user
>feedback pages etc
>etc, my boss will expect an NT server with IIS, but If I can get away
>with a linux system
>I intend to install Redhat 5.2 and Apache, anyone got much experience of
>setting up
>such a combination and what does it perform like
There isn't much comparison as to ease of use. I'll admit that the work I've
done with both is relatively limited, but it seemed to me that doing something
as simple as getting a list of all free/in use IP addresses was almost
impossible under IIS. We had resorted to keeping track of used and free
addresses on a piece of paper :( With Apache, pretty much all of the
configuration for everything, including each virtual host you want to set up,
is contained in a handfull of files, whereas if you want to set up virtual
hosting on IIS, it's a royal pain. Apache makes URL rewrite rules extremely
simple, and CGI is very easy to implement as compared to those ASP and
ODBC-type thingies. Setting up directory-level security is also very simple:
it's a matter of maintaining a list of allowed users in the protected
directory and a master password database somewhere. And you don't have to
reboot the machine everytime someone f&#%s up with their Front Page Web crap.
All I can remember about IIS is that doing *anything* is really, really
painful.
--
William
It is pitch black. You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: Jose Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:03:34 -0500
I have done that to keep a few pentiums from stoping, and even my K6-200
It could be the CPU not cooling fast enough or something else on the board that it's
getting
offset by the heat released by the CPU
Christian Aasland wrote:
> Another thought - my roomate had a problem with his machine locking up after a few
> minutes of q2, figured out it was a heat problem. He solved the problem by taking
> the cover off his case, then pointed a floor-fan (yup, one of those two-foot
> diameter ones) right at the motherboard, voila! I'm not saying this is your
> problem, but it would at least heat as the culprit if you still crashed.
>
> Stefan Lucke wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Suffering from an unstable system.
> > > K6-400 (stepping 12), Motherboard FIC PA-2013 (VIA MP3),
> > > 256 MB Ram (PC-100), (the board allows to downclock the RAM to 66 Mhz, what I
> > > did),
> > > AGP Matrox G200, 2 SCSI-Controller, EATA-DPT (only Disks)
> > > and ncr53c825 (DDS-3, CDROM ).
> > > RedHat 5.2 Kernel 2.0.36 and I tried as well all 2.2.0-preXX. the last
> > > 2.2.0-pre7ac2.
> > > The system keeps chrashing.
> > >
> > > I am trying to fix the system now since christmas. Getting frustrated....
> > >
> > > Any ideas, suggestions??
> >
> > Even though I�ve got a differnet mother-board (DFI .., AGP Matrox G200,
> > AHA2940 - disks, dds1-dc, cdrom) Kernel paging errors occure sometimes
> > upon loading of the bttv driver.
> >
> > Did you try other FSB clock rates?
> > With my K6-2 400 it is impossible to compile the kernel with FSB 100MHz
> > (no go at 400, 350, 300 - errors: sig 11 - sig 6). Kernel compile is
> > ok at any FSB 95Mhz rate. (428, 380, 333). But now I�ve some trouble
> > compiling the QT library (sig 11 :-(( at 95 MHz FSB). Perhaps its a good
> > idea to replace the processor. Mine has production lable (below voltage
> > infos) A 9849 EPFW.
> >
> > Stefan Lucke
>
> --
> Christian Aasland
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ#: 30268555
> AIM:caasland
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feasible LILO config?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:51:20 -0500
Klaus;
I'm not sure what you are doing as I have Linux and NT on one large HD with
LILO managing the boot process. However if you are booting to linux with
LILO make absolutely sure your boot and root lines in the lilo.conf file are
correct. If you are using the BIOS to boot from SCSI instaed of IDE lilo
will have to be installed on the SCSI MBR. The SCSI address of your HD
will also have to be a bootable device from the stand point of the BIOS.
Dave
Klaus Bernpaintner wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have an IDE drive and a SCSI drive. The IDE has NT on it, the SCSI has
Linux.
>Ever since Linux installation I have used a boot disk to boot Linux, but
now I
>want to boot directly from the hard drive.
>
>Is this even possible with my current configuration?
>I mean, if I keep the kernel and root on the SCSI, will LILO find them?
>
>I don't want to touch the NT bootsector so I want to use the scheme
outlined in
>http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
>
>In my attempts so far, during boot time the system panics and says "VFS:
Cannot
>open root device 08:06"
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From: Dan Crooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Glide
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:06:16 -0800
Mark Robinson wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get Glide for Linux?
Try here...I think they have it...
http://www.planetquake.com/gldojo/
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:20:22 +0100
From: Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.netscape,a2000.comp.software.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often
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Ville Nummela wrote:
> Well, it might be downgrading then. But remember that if you are using Red
> Hat you should consider recompiling those libraries from the original
> packages anyway, even though you are using the "same" version - Red Hat
> tends to make their own modifications to about everything so you can't
> expect any of the libraries that come with RH to be "standard".
Just realized that the downloaded netscapes are all statically linked together,
so no use to change any libraries whatsoever.
>
>
> > Best and cleanest thing would be to recompile with my own libraries then.
> > I think the source code was available, but maybe only to a selected group
> > of people?
> > I also dont know where to find it.
>
> That would be the best solution, but I don't have a clue about where to
> find the sources..
I found them. They are located on the mozilla.org side. Who knows i get so
pissed some day that i will download them, compile them and debug it until it
happens again :-)
>
>
> --
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Display issue on a Linux workstation
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Date: 13 Feb 1999 11:21:01 +0800
In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I finally dumped proprietory Unix hardware and joined the Linux world!
>> I just got my Linux workstation with Linux pre-installed.
>> The display has kind of running lines on it, a little bit, hardly
>> noticeable but more so on a white background. Is there anything I
>> can do to resolve it? I think it has something to do with the
>> refresh rate and frequency. Do I need to run some kind of a
>> configuration program?
> what kind of monitor and video card are you using?
> is it two horizontal lines, one about 1/4 of the screen from the top
> edge and a second about 1/4 of the screen from the bottom? if so,
> talk to sony about their trinitron manufacturing process. i like the
> sony screens despite the artifacts however if they really annoy you,
> you'll need to find a different monitor as it's part of the picture
> tube.
Actually, I was not referring to these, but once you told me, I noticed. I
had used Sony monitors for years and never noticed. :) They are not visible
on any background that is not white.
I was referring to not really lines, but some kind of intensity I see on
white background on this monitor. I don't know how to describe it. White
background is not smooth as on my older, black and white monitor. It is a
bit more intense, and I do not mean constrast-wise.
The Monitor is Sony Trinitron, 200PS. The Video card is Matrox Millenium II
G200 with 16MB of WRAM.
Thanks.
Linux rules.
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Emacs and Afterstep problem
Crossposted-To: comp.editors,gnu.emacs.help,comp.unix.questions
Date: 13 Feb 1999 11:24:31 +0800
In comp.os.linux.misc Michal Vitecek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13 Feb 1999, Ilya wrote:
>> I am running Afterstep window manager. It seems to conflict with Emacs
>> control-v function. Where in the Afterstep configuration files can I change
>> this?
> edit the feel file u're using and comment out the line:
> Key v W C PasteSelection
> which causes your problem.
And where is the feel file, what is it called?
It is not in my home directory.
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Date: 13 Feb 1999 11:22:44 +0800
In comp.os.linux.misc Frank da Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <36c541d0.0@calwebnnrp>, Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Trying to compile kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1.
> : Getting the following error:
> :
> : make linux
> : ....
> :
> : kutio.c: In function `ttsspd':
> : ckutio.c:4679: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
> : ckutio.c:4679: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> : ckutio.c:4679: for each function it appears in.)
> : ckutio.c:4685: `TIOCSSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
> : ckutio.c: In function `ttgspd':
> : ckutio.c:4833: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
> : ckutio.c: In function `in_chk':
> : ckutio.c:6092: warning:
> : passing arg 3 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
> : ckutio.c:6092: warning:
> : passing arg 4 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
> : make[1]: *** [ckutio.o] Error 1
> : make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/bin/kermit'
> : make: *** [linux] Error 2
> :
> : Any ideas?
> :
> This is our most frequently asked question in recent weeks. Answer: Linux
> has changed significantly since C-Kermit 6.0 was released. Of course we
> have adapted, but this requires you try a newer version of C-Kermit:
> http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html
> - Frank
Thank you. kermit 7.0 compiled fine. Why is the binary called wermit?
Ilya
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:27:20 GMT
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:48:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:56:01 -0800, David Masterson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us all with this bit of
>wisdom:
>
>>David Kastrup wrote:
>>> While I don't think (as some) that Microsoft should be forced to ship
>>> Netscape as well at the option of Windows customer, they *should* be
>>> forced to make all necessary information for doing that publically
>>> available so that Netscape as well as other browser vendors have a
>>> chance to compete with Internet Explorer on Windows. And this should
>>> be controlled tightly to ensure they don't hide important APIs, making
>>> the task more or less undoable for people not into the secret.
>>
>>Here's an idea. If you grant that Microsoft has a (near-)monopoly in
>>OS, then, as a remedy, why not remove that monopoly in a way that keeps
>>the government out of the computer OS business and maintains open
>>competition. My idea would be to give control of the OS over to 3 (or
>>more) separate companies (one of which may be owned by MS) and have
>>those companies compete with each other. In other words, each would
>>have a complete copy of the OS (and the engineering know-how to support
>>it). To differentiate themselves, they would then have to move their
>>copy of the OS in new and innovative ways. Yet, they would have the
>>engineering knowledge to incorporate innovations from the other
>>companies into their copy of the OS. In so doing, they would open up
>>new opportunities for getting into the MS-Windows universe.
>
>
>And is this going to be done voluntarily? If the government forces
>such a move then guess what? You've still got government intrusion
>into the OS area. It took government about 25 years to get into
>regulating automobiles under ythe guise of safety before they started
>becoming draconian; even to the point of mandating 'safety' devices
>that they knew would kill and injure people.
Such as radio knobs that prior to govmt regulations protruded enough
so that they'd puncture your skull in an accident, steering columns
that didn't collapse but impaled the drivers, doors that flew open in
an accident, and the list of "industry" safety devices goes on
........ Maybe the government should get out of safety regulations for
Airlines too ?? You take the first Value Jet minus government
regulation. Maybe the government should also get out of trying to
provide for safe meat and food products too , I hope you wind up with
the first E.Coli or Listeria Burger.
> I doubt that it would
>take that long before they made a total cluster fuck of the computer
>industry.
>Why not just wait a few years and let the market take care of things?
>It works slower but it works much, much better.
>
>
>"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
> And with strange aeons even death may die."
>- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
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