Linux-Misc Digest #16, Volume #19 Sat, 13 Feb 99 22:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: StarOffice (Ade)
Re: change console to serial? (xcitor)
Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often (J. Scott Berg)
Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux (Bob Nelson)
Re: Linux suxxxx ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Can't check mail ("Stephen Thomas")
How to get libstdc++.so.2.9 (Juergen Fiedler)
Re: mpeg4 sources [was:Re: VQF(MP4)-player for Linux] ("Cj.Spaans")
Re: Development Tool, Project, CASE Tool (David M. Cook)
Re: FreeBSD / Linux project (DrBoom)
Re: set up small word-processing system (Rod Smith)
Re: rebuilding the kernel (Michael Benedict)
telnet: Was my system hacked? (GenaBlu)
Re: netscape freeze (Michael Benedict)
Why Does Linux Thrash So Bad? ("Aaron M. Renn")
Re: How do I know which window manager I am using? (Benyang Tang)
WANTED: Methods of authenticating files. (Gary Momarison)
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From: Ade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:25:20 +0000
Martin wrote:
> I'm trying to install the StarOffice 5 package (from PC Plus, UK) on my
> Gateway2000.
> I get as far as the screen where one is supposed to enter personal info.
> Filling this out and pressing enter crashes the installapp.
I had almost the same problem, when I entered the license number
about three quarters of the way into entering it the installation crashed
Now you wont beleive this, but the only way around this was quite simply
type the license number in very quickly ( I know, sounds crazy)
It took 2 or 3 attempts to get it quick enough
Then all was fine, I have since installed Staroffice on two other boxes with
no probs
all from the same media as the original install
>
>
> Any ideas? Theres plenty of RAM (128) and space (2GB) on the drive.
>
> M.
Hope u get it sorted
adrian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xcitor)
Subject: Re: change console to serial?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:31:05 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:37:46 -0500,
Yan Seiner wrote
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I need to administer my linux box remotely. I'm getting tired of
>running back there to check the console for messages.
Your best bet is to read the serial-HOWTO, available at:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html or your fave LDP
mirror.
--
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Linux - the choice of a GNU generation.
1024/A883405D 1998/06/16 xcitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Scott Berg)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.netscape,a2000.comp.software.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often
Date: 14 Feb 1999 01:08:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>Ville Nummela wrote:
>
>> Well, it might be downgrading then. But remember that if you are using Red
>> Hat you should consider recompiling those libraries from the original
>> packages anyway, even though you are using the "same" version - Red Hat
>> tends to make their own modifications to about everything so you can't
>> expect any of the libraries that come with RH to be "standard".
>
>Just realized that the downloaded netscapes are all statically linked together,
>so no use to change any libraries whatsoever.
Really? The ones I have, which were downloaded a few months ago, are
all dynamically linked. I would be very happy if it weren't
dynamically linked, or at least if the only dynamic library were libc.
>> > Best and cleanest thing would be to recompile with my own libraries then.
Don't do it! Actually, in general it's a good idea, but it will
probably make Netscape crash. As far as I can tell, the glibc
Netscape is particularly finicky about having preciesly the libraries
that Redhat supplies (I think the culprit in my case is libstdc++). I
haven't been able to get it to work using my self-compiled libraries.
On of these days I'll get alien and download Redhat's RPM's for
libstdc++ and see if that lets me run Netscape. Right now I use a
libc5 version and have my old libc5 X11 libraries hidden off somewhere.
At least if you try to compile the libraries, make sure to keep the
old ones around.
-Scott Berg
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From: Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux
Date: 13 Feb 1999 19:40:41 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.misc Tat M. Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a computer currently running NT server using NTFS. I like to add a
> second harddisk to the computer and install RedHat Linux on this drive.
> The second harddisk will be used for Linux exclusively. I understand
> that if NT is using FAT, there would not be any problem. Since my
> system is using NTFS, can I install RedHat Linux on this system?
There's no problem (or in Redmond-speak, ``issue'') involving the
co-existence of Linux and peecee "nt" on the same computer. The newer
kernels -- and certainly the now official 2.2.* series -- provide
read (and optionally, write) support of the NTFS partition.
On my computer, I have all of the following managed by LILO:
1. Linux 2.2.1 (a mongrelized Redhat 5.2, with traces of sls still present)
2. Linux 2.0.29 (Caldera's Open Linux Lite)
3. Linux 0.99p12 (a legacy kernel to recall ``how it used to be'')
4. Solaris 2.6 (the promotional product from last autumn)
5. peecee "nt" 4.0/SP4 (booted ONLY when I need to remember just why
I switched to *nix)
- Note that the NTFS support (at least as kernel module) will leak
memory...slowly but surely. Be *sure* to exclude the NTFS partition
from your daily updatedb job since ``find'' on NTFS will globble
up a large chunk of memory, which can be reclaimed only be a
reboot (or in Redmond-speak, ``a refresh'').
- Since Microsoft's product is so poorly designed, simply submit to
its inadequacies and place it on the first partition on your
first hard drive. Subdivide its archaic ``drive letters'' thereafter
to other partitions across the same or others drives. As you
spend less time toying with peecee "nt", you'll surely want to
reclaim the space wasted on it for Linux. (What started as
four partitions for peecee "nt" is now down to just one in my
case).
- Be sure to install Linux *after* peecee "nt" performs its selfish
installation, clobbering LILO and everything else in its way. Then,
simply add a line to your lilo.conf pointing to the peecee "nt"
partition, viz:
boot = /dev/hda
map = /boot/map
install = /boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout = 50
vga = 3
image = /boot/zImage-2.2.1-oss
label = linux
root = /dev/hda5
read-only
image = /boot/zImage-2.1.130-oss
label = linux-back
root = /dev/hda5
read-only
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29-modular
label = caldera
root = /dev/hda8
read-only
image = /boot/kernel-0.99p12
label = linux-old
root = /dev/hdd1
read-only
other = /dev/hdc1
loader = /boot/chain.b
label = solaris
table = /dev/hdc
other = /dev/hda1
label = peecee-nt
table = /dev/hda
--
========================================================================
Bob Nelson -- Dallas, Texas, USA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
http://www.oldradio.com/archives/nelson/open-computing.html
``Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.''
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:27:44 GMT
In article <36c5d361.0@calwebnnrp>,
Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No other operating system has as many tools as Unix. grep, sed, vi, cut,
> find commands combined together are a very good tool. Plus Perl, emacs -
> the list goes on and on. I really do appreciate Unix and specifically
> Linux.
>
And it's interesting to see tools like grep now being made available for M$
users. That's the way the wind is blowing.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:39:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andreas Schyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Esparza wrote:
> >
> > Have been reading quite a few of the HOWTO's lately trying to get
> > Redhat 5.2 installed on my machine. According to the Linux+NT-Loader
> > document, standard Linux can't access NTFS. BUT, to quote the document:
> >
> > "An alpha driver that can read NTFS-Partitions is available at
> >
> > http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~loewis/ntfs"
> >
>
> Looks like that HOW-TO is a bit old... The new kernel do come with a
> driver that is able to read from NTFS, but not write.
> Andreas.
>
Actually the new 2.2.x kernels include support for writing to NTFS partitions
as well but it is an experimental driver and they warn that it has the
potential of corupting your NTFS partition.
0ut(ast
Life would be a lot simpler if
we could just see the source code.
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From: "Stephen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Can't check mail
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:56:17 -0600
Since I had a power outage and had to restart my Linux system I can't check
my e-mail from another system on the network. I am using Popper and get an
error that my other system can't connect to the server. I get no log
entries. I am fairly new to Linux so any help troubleshooting this would be
appreciated.
P.S. I don't know if it is related but I also can't connect to SWAT to
manage my Samba server. I can, however, connect to the web server on that
computer.
Thanks,
Steve
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From: Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to get libstdc++.so.2.9
Date: 14 Feb 1999 02:00:59 GMT
Hi,
I need to get libstdc++.so.2.9, because a program that I recently
downloaded won't run without. I downloaded libstdc++.2.90.3 from
ftp.cygnus.com, but I couldn't get it to compile: ./configure
runs OK, but during 'make', I get the following error:
>-------SNIP-------<
../bits/std_iosfwd.h:49: sorry, not implemented: namespace
make[2]: *** [complex.lo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
>-------SNIP-------<
I'm running Slackware 3.6 with gcc 2.8.1. Does anone know how I can
get libstdc++ 2.9?
TIA,
Juergen
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From: "Cj.Spaans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mpeg4 sources [was:Re: VQF(MP4)-player for Linux]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:26:05 +0100
I first wanted to make sure no one else is building a VQF-player and it
looks like there is no one building one. I think its up to me to build a
player and maybe also an encoder for Linux.
Wish me luke :)
Cu
Hans
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Cj.Spaans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have al lot of VQF-files and I don't want to recompres them to MP3 so I
> > can play them under Linux. Does anyone know about a vqf-player for Linux.
>
> The sources for the complete mpeg4 audio is downloadable from
> http://www.vqf.com You can also find loads of information and more compilable
> applications on: http://www.tnt.uni-hannover.de/project/mpeg/audio
>
> IMO you'd best try and find some people to start a project to look if these
> sources can be directly compiled for linux and if not, what will be needed
> to port them.
> The mpeg4 audio standard handles AAC, MP3, VQF and even TTS (Text to speech!)
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Development Tool, Project, CASE Tool
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:10:39 GMT
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:38:35 +1100, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Need some sort of Software Development, planning tool, CASE Tool,
>Something like MS Project.. Anything!! urgently. If I could get the name
>of the software, and/or be pointed in the right direction, that would be
>great.
Uniqsys advertises a CASE tool on linuxtoday.com, so I assume it will run
under Linux. Also, ISE (www.eiffel.com) makes an Eiffel CASE tool.
Dave Cook
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From: DrBoom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD / Linux project
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:15:58 GMT
Pooh. The development models for the two OS's are incompatible. Some
people like the free-for-all style of Linux, others prefer FreeBSD's
single integrated distro model. Never the twain shall meet. As far as
cross-pollination is concerned, that is happening anyway. I see no
reason to put an organizational straitjacket on the process.
-j
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> A long time ago, there was this thread about FreeBSD vs. Linux. Then
> some days later, someone changed the title of the thread to "why don't
> they merge?" The whole idea, though impractical, was that the two camps
> should stop duking it out and "merge". Let's take this idea and think
> it out awhile...
>
> What if there could be a project devoted to creating a new OS, composed
> of FreeBSD --> Linux? We could have developers from both camps working
> together. The main problem is what features would you like from both
> OSes put into this new, "Super Free UNIX"? The problem would be making
> incremental adjustments to this new OS, since Linux development
> (especially kernel devel.) tends to change more rapidly than FreeBSD,
> and tracking changes made to both OSes to merge into this "new" OS could
> be quite a chore.
>
> You could still have the separate OSes, FreeBSD, Linux, but the
> knowledge gained from putting the two OSes into one will help out
> FreeBSD, Linux individually. I would suggest a development structure
> based loosely around the FreeBSD "core team member" concept. What do
> you think about this?
>
> Donn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: set up small word-processing system
Date: 12 Feb 1999 19:24:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
> I've scavenged enough spare parts to put together a system for my son.
> He's 21, knows little about computers; says he wants to use it as a
> word-processor, basically no more than a typewriter with a disk
> system.
>
> The system I've put together is based on a Packard-Bell DX2-50
> multimedia system. The thing seems only to have 4meg of ram, and
> Win95 won't run on it. Rather than scrounge for simms, I'm thinking
> that I'll just put Linux on it, I expect Linux would be pleased as
> punch to have a new roomy 4meg home (though I don't know this for a
> fact yet).
Most modern Linuxes will be stressed in that little amount of RAM,
ESPECIALLY if you try to run X on them.
> Anyway, I'm concerned that as a near-computer-illterate user, he might
> have trouble learning emacs or whatever. I personally like mcedit or
> the editor in ktdesk, but then I haven't had time to read the emacs
> book yet because I'm busy scrounging parts for my kids.
>
> So does this sound like a decent plan, if so what would you recommend
> as a WYSIWYG editor that will provide print support? I've also
> scrounged a Decwriter-65, not sure if Linux has a driver that will
> support it.
Given your stated needs, I'd recommend either boosting the machine's power
considerably (say, to 16MB RAM with a faster CPU) and using any of a
number of Linux word processors (WP 8, StarOffice, LyX, Maxwell); or
forgetting about Linux and putting DOS and WP 5 for DOS on it. A computer
that's to be used *ONLY* for word processing certainly doesn't need Linux.
With only 4MB of RAM, *ANY* modern GUI would be too much of a strain. If
you're absolutely dead-set on using Linux, try running WP 5 for DOS in
DOSEMU.
AFAIK, the only text-mode word processor for Linux is the text-mode
version of WP, which comes only in the pricey server version of the
program. I don't know if it would run in only 4MB of RAM, but my hunch is
it would not. Your son could use Emacs, vi, or some other text editor
along with LaTeX or something similar, but if he's a computer newbie, he
likely wouldn't be a happy camper.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: Michael Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: rebuilding the kernel
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:08:06 -0500
Could someone elaborate on the LILO process? I just made linux 2.2.1
and the make went well etc, but now I am editing /etc/lilo.conf and I
see that the old boot image contains the following:
image=/boot/vmlinux-2.0.36-0.7
label=linux
root=/dev/sda5
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.36-0.7.img
read-only
I understand every line except for initrd. Basically, (I did make
zImage and copied /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage to
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.1). So the new entry in lilo should look like:
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.1
label=linux //Change label booting linux-2.0.36 to
linux-2.0.36 or something
root=/dev/sda5
initrd=?????????????
read-only
So if you can tell me where *initrd* is (I presume it is somewhere in
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386) and what its current name is, I will just move
that to /boot, rename it initrd-2.2.1, and change the lilo initrd tag to
/boot/initrd-2.2.1 . So please tell me where this is :). Thank you,
Michael Benedict
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GenaBlu)
Subject: telnet: Was my system hacked?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 19:32:42 GMT
I've been connecting to my Linux boxes using Windows' telnet for the longest
time. Then, a couple of days ago, it stopped working. Just like that. I was
logged on to my Linux box, then closed the connection for a few minutes, then
tried again and it didn't work. Here are the symptoms:
1. I can connect to the server (I can see it using netstat), the "Red Hat Linux
Kernel 2.0.35 on an i586" screen appears, but I get no login prompt.
2. My servers and workstation are in the same LAN, and share consecutive IP
addresses and gateway.
3. My DNS is provided by my DSL vendor for now, but that's bound to change; I'm
using canonical IP addresses to connect (x.y.z.w) so I don't think I have
reverse-lookup problems.
4. I can't connect from Linux box to Linux box using telnet either. Now, the
funny thing is, people telnetting from outside the LAN can telnet just fine.
I shut the r* services off (yeah, I know) already. FTP, Samba, httpd, etc.
work just fine. It's only the telnetd that seems to be acting up.
I've been working my way down the CERT advisories and so far I haven't found
anything strange in my system; I'm getting nervously ready to re-install parts
or all of Linux if I can find that the systems were compromised, but I'd
appreciate if someone knows what might be wrong.
Please help! I try managing all of these machines from a couple of telnet
sessions so I don't have to physically switch among them.
Thanks for your help!
G
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From: Michael Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape freeze
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:11:46 -0500
Not to be too trivial, but I would recommend upgrading to 4.5, it fixes
a lot of bugs and such. Beyond that, sorry, can't help.
Best of luck,
Michael Benedict
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aaron M. Renn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why Does Linux Thrash So Bad?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:50:24 -0600
I've got a 300 MHz Pentium II with 128 MB of RAM and 512 MB of swap. But
Linux goes into thrash mode all the time on me. If I've got X, two xterms,
and two netscape instances up, it sometimes starts thrashing and never
recovers. This is clearly ridiculous, espically since my netscape
configuration allows only 20MB of memory cache. I've even had X crash with
out of memory errors. My disk space is getting low on my normal
filesystems, which seems to be associate with the problem for some reason.
Any ideas? I'm running 2.0.36 BTW. Please respond via email. I'll
summarize replies if warranted.
--
Aaron M. Renn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/
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From: Benyang Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How do I know which window manager I am using?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:28:15 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> KDE is easier to configure, but fvwm2 isn't that hard either. You've
> got two problems, only one of which is fvwm related. You can make the
> pager go away by removing every line from your .fvwm2rc file that has
> the line FvwmPager in it - in my .fvwm2rc that's
>
> + "Pager" Module FvwmPager 0 3
>
> If you can't do it, send me your .fvwm2rc file and I'll do it for you.
>
> The other problem is your virtual X resolution. You can set X to
> display a resolution of, say, 1600x1200 when your monitor only
> displays 1024x768. If you maximize a window everything will go
> off-screen (unless you determined the maximum window size in your .fvwm2rc,
> that is). Just remove every resolution greater that the monitor
> resolution from your XF86Config file.
> --
>
> Boudewijn Rempt | www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt
Thanks for the help. I did what you said and also have to delete the almost 2
pages garbage in
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and replace with just 2 lines
xterm&
fvwm2
It works.
Another thing I have done is to change /etc/fstab, replacing every msdos with
vfat. Now I can see long filenames in the windows hard disk and floppy. This
trick is not mentioned in any of the about 10 linux books (some are really
thick) I have read.
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WANTED: Methods of authenticating files.
Date: 12 Feb 1999 10:11:11 -0800
Someone would do the Linux community a favor if he would follow up with
some cook-book methods for authenticating files or links to the same.
Authenticating is often recommended but nobody ever says how to do it.
I'll link to it from Gary's Encyclopedia also. If it's fairly good, it
aught to be submitted to the Linux Gazette or somewhere like that.
Thanks.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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