Linux-Misc Digest #55, Volume #19 Mon, 15 Feb 99 19:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated? (Frank McKenney)
Syslog.conf and remote syslog entries ("Shawn Crosby")
Re: Newbie - tar.gz - where?? install (Steve Zinck)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ("noway")
Re: good UPS? ("Michael Faurot")
HELP! 3c509 dies under RH 5.2 (Geoffrey Mainland)
Kernel 2.2.1 parallel port problem ("A.I. van Berkel")
Re: Please help we are desparate!! (Anthony Campbell)
Re: Win95 + Linux Dual Installation Possible? (Kristian Hoffmann)
Re: Dual booting.. ("E. Robert Tisdale")
Re: Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1 (Frank da Cruz)
strange characters (Atif ghaffar)
Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated? (Bill Unruh)
Re: floating point accuracy on Linux? (Georg Schwarz)
Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated? (David M. Cook)
Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. (N. Richard Caldwell)
Re: glibc2.1 and egcs1.1.1 problem (posterkid)
ODBC driver for Linux? (Gary)
Re: floating point accuracy on Linux? (Georg Schwarz)
linux and fault tolerance ("Paul Davies")
Re: Problem on Make Command ("Cameron Spitzer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank McKenney)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 21:37:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <7a8947$2ui$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[sequence of e-mail remarks regarding complexity of X elided]
>
>> I agree 110%. I am also very new to Linux and have found it very difficult
>> compared to other operating systems that I have worked on before and I would
>> take an IRQ conflict with my sound card and network adapter any day to the
>> frustration I've had in setting up X let alone getting any good help from
>> these newsgroups.
--snip--
>Because X offers so much more than the graphic environments of Microsoft
>Windows, OS/2 or the Mac, the small price to pay is the complexity of
>setup. Fortunately, the Linux community provides reams of documentation
>about the initial configuation and the ``care and feeding'' of X
>thereafter.
Bob,
First, thanks to you and all the others for your replies. I still don't
kow if what I _want_ (ReallySimple video setup) is do-able, but at least
I know I'm not alone in wanting it.
I did get a bit confused by your first statement above; the words you've
used seem to imply that Linux is complex to set up _because_ it is so
wonderful, and I don't _think_ that's what you intended (;-).
>Careful reading of the FAQs, HOWTOs and man pages (as well as the
>documentation provided with X itself) will lead to a richly rewarding
>*understanding* of the X Window System. Contrast this with Microsoft
>Windows, where the user is the hapless ``victim'' of the software rather
>than being in complete command of the computing environment.
Flexibility, knowing that I (and others) _can_ work around current
limitations, yes, these are good things. On the other hand, I don't
realy want to have to read hundreds of pages (yes, I'm exaggerating - I
think (;-)) and spend days simply setting up Linux so I can see a clean
800x600 X desktop.
>Any mother will tell you that giving birth to a child is a painful
>ordeal. It's similar with the X Window System. The aftermath makes
>it all worthwhiler.
Um... so, now that I have Linux installed (if not completely healthy
yet), you're telling me I can look forward to twenty-odd _years_ of
midnight feedings, toilet training, outgrown clothes every six months,
medical and dental bills, fighting over the telephone, and PTA meetings?
Aaaaaaaauuugggh!
I mean, teaching Linux language skills might be fun, but I run OS/2,
DOS, and occasionally MSWinXX. How the &^$#! do I handle Sibling
Rivalry???
All of a sudden DOS doesn't look so bad to me... (;-)
Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates / OS2BBS OS/2 Advisor
Richmond, Virginia (804) 320-4887
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / TalkLink: WZ01123
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From: "Shawn Crosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Syslog.conf and remote syslog entries
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:55:06 -0400
I am trying to redirect messages received from a remote host via syslogd -r
into a specific file...ie something like:
@remotehostname /var/log/rhostmsgs
I know this isn't the right way to do it. Can syslogd do this kind of
redirect...if so, how?
Any help would be appreciated
Shawn Crosby
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie - tar.gz - where?? install
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:21:42 GMT
You can unpack a .tar.gz unarchive where ever you want, it makes no
difference. To install most programs, all you need to do is make; make
install. But make sure to read any documentation that comes with the program.
Common files are README, INSTALL, INSTALLATION, things like that. Just view
them and you should have no programs...
Robert Crosbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When a tar.gz file is on linux and ready to be 'untarred' and installed
> - what is the proper place to copy or download it to? Ive been puting
> them in /usr/tmp.
> Is it ok to untar it from there and install it or should it placed into
> a different directory.
> Plus if you could provide a simple walkthru of the procedure of
> untarring and installing. Thanks.
--
Steve Zinck
remove the 'X' to reply via email
http://www.bofh.ns.ca
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:49:24 GMT
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:06:18 +0000, Timothy Lee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jedi
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>On 08 Feb 1999 13:58:39 +0000, Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>In alt.os.linux, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>> What Netscape is this. Mine seems to look and act indentical to windows.
>>>> There is 1 difference, no 2. It runs faster and doesn't crash.
>>>
>>>3. Netscape 4.5 on windows "auto-completes" entries typed into the
>>>URL. On linux it does not and you have to type in the complete URL.
>>
>> This is as much of a nuisance as it is a help half of the
>> time so the net effect averages out to about zero.
>
>If the autocomplete were done using some key combination then it could
>be useful (cf. tab completion in sea shells)
>
>--
>http://www.town-village.demon.co.uk Timothy Lee
definately agree...
as far as other apps. My wife quit using wp for windows in favor of
the linux interface. she like the small main window and seperate
windows for different docs.
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From: "noway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:39:15 -0800
>>In much the same way that buildings and telephone poles are.
>
>No, in the way that a building which is very likely to be driven by a
careless
>moron, and which will drive at unsafe speeds in inclement weather, and
which
>doesn't check its mirrors, would be dangerous.
>
>>> If you share
>>>responsibility for injury and death between both cars in an accident, it
>>>becomes painfully obvious that SUV's are horribly dangerous.
>
>>And if you look at it sensibly it becomes apparent that driving a
>>subcompact is what's horribly dangerous.
>
>To you, yes. Not so much to other people.
I think his point might be best summed up with hockey.
if your playing unorganized hockey, and no one is wearing
pads, then you most likely alter your playing style to reflect
that fact. You play safer. when you are playing hockey with
all your pads, you alter your style again. You can get away with
more aggressive playing style, as the pads will protect you.
but lets say we are all playing without pads, but a few people
are playing with pads. it stands to reason that the people
with pads will be safe, but the people without pads will be less
safe then if we all wore pads, or all did not wear pads.
Im sure you can attack my idea based on how simplistic Im
putting them, but Im just trying to put in my 2 cents. in the
same vain, if 10 people have sub compacts and 10 people
have big SUVs then then 10 poeple have become "more" safe
and 10 people have become "less" safe. in a SUV and sub compact
crash the SUV will be safer. in a SUV and 18 wheeler crash
the SUV won't help = )
so the SUV's are making the highways "generally" less safe
for the benefit of making driving a little safer for the owners
of SUV's
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: good UPS?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 21:31:40 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Thomas Frese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Has anybody any recommendations for a reasonably cheap and good
: UPS that works well with Linux, i.e. unattended shutdown, voltage
: correction and command to shut down the UPS once the machine halted?
: Also, what is the Linux software to control these UPS's? I was
: looking at APC Back-UPS Pro 650 for example.... Any suggestions are
: appreciated
BestPower Fortress series. The Fortress series does all of the above,
and BestPower fully supports Linux and provides source and executables
for their UPS monitoring daemon.
--
==============================================================================
Michael | mfaurot | I waited and waited and when no message came I
Faurot | phzzzt.atww.org | knew it must be from you.
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From: Geoffrey Mainland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: HELP! 3c509 dies under RH 5.2
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:01:06 -0500
I installed a fresh copy of RedHat 5.2 (kernel 2.0.36) on a machine
with a 3c509 ethernet card. Everything works just fine--for a while.
Then the network interface disappears. /etc/rc.d/init.d/network status
says the interface is up, but it doesn't work. Rebooting the system
fixes the problem. The machine has a static IP address, BTW. Any hints
on how to solve the problem?
Thanks,
Geoff
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From: "A.I. van Berkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.2.1 parallel port problem
Date: 15 Feb 1999 17:41:10 GMT
Hello,
I have just finished compiling the 2.2.1 kernel on my debian 2.1 system.
As suggested by by the HOWTO, I first upgraded modutils, then installed the
kernel sources, configured and compiled the kernel and the modules and
finally booted with the kernel.
Everything seemed to work flawlessly, until I wanted to print something.
It seems the parallel port driver is broken. I could deduce from the
logfiles that it searches for a parport_lowlevel module. And indeed, I have
no such module, nor could I find it somewhere in the kernel sources.
I tried recompiling the kernel with the parallel port drivers baked in
(i.e. not as modules), but the error persisted.
Does anyone have a hint what I might be doing wrong. It seems to work with
other people, so it must be me, but where ......
Thanks and regards,
Arij.
--
A.I. van Berkel
Universiteit Twente, vakgroep Thermische werktuigbouw
University of Twente, Thermal engineering group
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Campbell)
Subject: Re: Please help we are desparate!!
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:34:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:05:41 -0000, Richard Hitchell
<richard.hitchellatttabconnectors.com> wrote:
>I have been trying to configure using linux 5.1 qmail with pop3 for
>connecting pc clients. But I have managed to screw up the system somehow
>and cannot work out what i have done / how to undo it!
>
>1. on boot up the message 'SCIOCADDRT: Invalid argument' appears - what is
>this and how do I fix it?
>
I can do this one; at least in debian, you need to edit /etc/init.d/network
and comment out "route add -net 127.0.0.0".
>2. Slightly later on boot up the message 'loading keymap: unable to stat
>gid control file 'gidq'' appears and then continuosly scrolls up the
>screen until you switch to single user mode or kill 'supervise
>/var/lock/svc/qmail qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger' process. I have taken
>the qmail startup out of /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit - so how is it starting,
>where should I check? what is keymap and why does it produce this fatal
>error?
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated
>
>Richard
>
>
Anthony
-- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.achc.demon.co.uk
"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on..." - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
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From: Kristian Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Win95 + Linux Dual Installation Possible?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:13:41 +0000
There is a simple and efficient way to this. Just install LILO on the
mbr of your 1st harddrive (I only have one 6.4 and this primary
slave/master stuff is irrelivent). Then just have one entry in your
lilo.conf for windows and one for your linux partition. If you ever
have anything that rewrites your mbr, just take your linux boot disk,
type ( for slackware) mount root=/dev/hd??, let it boot, login, and type
lilo to reinstall lilo in your mbr. Here's a copy of my lilo.conf which
you can modify to fit your drive/partitioning scheme:
----lilo.conf----
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.1-1
label=linux
root=/dev/hda3
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=Win98
table=/dev/hda
----lilo.conf----
The first entry is the default so by just hitting enter at the lilo
prompt, linux will boot.
Hope this helps.
-Kristian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "E. Robert Tisdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual booting..
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:28:28 -0800
# /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
read-only
other=/dev/hdc1
label=win95
table=/dev/hdc
map-drive=0x80
to = 0x81
map-drive=0x81
to = 0x80
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:35:06 GMT
In article <7a9r4b$ufh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <7a4jka$7bd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz) wrote:
: > In article <36c5d104.0@calwebnnrp>, Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > wrote:
: > : In comp.os.linux.misc Frank da Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > : > : ...
: > : > : make: *** [linux] Error 2
: > : > :
: > : > : Any ideas?
: > : > :
: > : > This is our most frequently asked question in recent weeks. Answer:
: > : > Linux has changed significantly since C-Kermit 6.0 was released. Of
: > : > course we have adapted, but this requires you try a newer version of
: > : > C-Kermit:
: > :
: > : > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html
: > :
: > : Thank you. kermit 7.0 compiled fine. Why is the binary called wermit?
: > :
: > So in case you already had a "kermit" binary, it won't write over it.
:
: What if you already have "wermit"?
:
It will write over it.
- Frank
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From: Atif ghaffar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: strange characters
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:38:53 +0100
Hi all.
I had this problem once before and now again.
I am getting strange characters if I pipe something to mail or if I ftp
using netscape etc with Linux.
here is an example
ls | mail aghaffar
And this is what I get in my mail (viewing it from netscape)
[00m[01;31m3.20_Changes.txt[00m*
[01;34mDesktop[00m/
[00mREADME[00m
[00mREADME.qt-1.41[00m
[00mServerLog[00m
[00mStartLog[00m
[00martemedia.ch[00m
[00martemedia.de.traceroute[00m
[01;34mbin[00m/
[01;31mchmodprop[00m*
[00mcrack.pl[00m
[00mcvlfiles.txt[00m
[00me-card-specs.html[00m
The same result apears if I log on to my machine using ftp with Netscape or other gui
ftp client on linux or NT or other unix.
commandline ftp works fine though,
I reinstalled my system this morning reformatting the disk. I thought its some bad
sectors on disk or corrup devices.
That didnt help neither.
thanks in advance for your help.
--
Thank you
Atif Ghaffar
I*Net programmer
artemedia online sa. http://www.artemedia.ch
rue de morges 24 CH 1023 crissier
tel: +41 (0)21 706.20.70 Fax: +41 (0)21 706.20.71
=====================================================================
"If Microsoft is the answer, it must have been a VERY silly question."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:04:43 GMT
In <7aa431$1s1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank
McKenney) writes:
>>Because X offers so much more than the graphic environments of Microsoft
>>Windows, OS/2 or the Mac, the small price to pay is the complexity of
Uh, I would beg to differ. X is still much more primative than esp the
OS2 graphical environment. It is a display environment, rather than a
Workplace. There is simply no comparison as yet.
The main difference is taht the Win/OS2/Mac people spent a lot of time
making sure that their system were easy to set up. They also knew pretty
well exactly what software they would be installed on top of. X is
generic and thus does not push the OS or integrate into the OS like
those others do. Also, they have simply not spent the grunge time making
sure that it is foolproof to set up that IBM, MS, Apple have ( and they
still failed at times).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: Re: floating point accuracy on Linux?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:04:55 GMT
Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>It's not Linux, per se, it's the C math library that's at issue here.
OK.
>You didn't mention the specific processor being used in each case here.
well, it seems to be a problem with all x86 I have tried: AMD K6, Intel
Pentium II, AMD 386 with and without FPU.
>I know the MIPS, but the x86 were run on what processor? And what
>compiler and C library were used?
IIRC, the phenomenon shoed up with both gcc 2.7.something and some rather
recent egcs.
I'd be interested to learn whether there's a way on x86 to avoid that
problem. Also, is it possible that Fortran compilers like pgf77 are also
affected?
--
Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP 2.6ui)
Institut f�r Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universit�t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:05:26 GMT
On 14 Feb 1999 19:14:52 GMT, Frank McKenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm fairly new to Linux, so I've only been through the pain and anguish
>of X video setup three times so far, all with SuSe's SaX utility.
In my experience video is easy to set up if a card is well supported and the
monitor is a fairly standard multisync one. There's some old documentation
floating about that implies the user must muck about with modelines, but
that is generally not the case.
XFree86 does not work with as wide a variety of hardware as windows. Given
the lack of funds and vendor support this should not be too suprising.
However, even with those limitations, it works very well with most hardware.
>My test/development machine (AMD 486DX4-100, 32Mb RAM, Cirrus 5434 ISA
>video)
What kind of monitor?
>reasonably large, (b) single (not multiple), (c) centered, and (d)
Unless I misunderstand what you mean, (b) sounds like the window manager,
not X.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (N. Richard Caldwell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange.
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:34:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ian Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>If I rememebr right, congress got their exchange server swamped and it had
>to
>>be shut down upon advent of the whole impeachment crap. Check on
>slashdot.org
>>for info on it.
>
>
>To be fair, Congress was running an older version that had a limit of 16GB
>on the data store. This "bug" was well documented from day one and anyone
>who read the manual would have known it was there. The upgrade that
>eliminated that limit had been available for over a year and a half.
>
>I think the Admins in this case have to take half the responsibility for the
>lock up due to piss poor management of the server.
Except that the reason they hadn't updated was that they were still trying
to make sure that the update wasn't going to cause more problems than it
would solve. Anyone who has managed an Exchange server and done a few
updates probably understands why they were approaching it with such
caution.
--
N. Richard Caldwell
Lucent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (posterkid)
Subject: Re: glibc2.1 and egcs1.1.1 problem
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:40:42 GMT
Ludger Solbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ludger Solbach wrote:
>>[problems installing glibc-2.1 and egcs-1.1.1 -- libio.h broken in install]
>> Some information about my system:
>> kernel 2.0.36
>> compiler egcs 1.1.1
>> binutils 2.9.1.0.19a
>> libc 5
>> kernel includes used for glibc compilation: 2.2.1
>>
>> Here is the relevant part of the 'make check' output:
>>
>> make -C stdlib tests
>> make[2]: Entering directory `/sda5/glibc-2.1/stdlib'
>> cd /sda5/glibc-2.1-build/stdlib && gcc -include ../config.h
>> /sda5/glibc-2.1/stdlib/isomac.c -o isomac
>> In file included from /usr/include/stdio.h:57,
>> from /sda5/glibc-2.1/stdlib/isomac.c:74:
>> /usr/include/libio.h:335: parse error before `_IO_seekoff'
>> /usr/include/libio.h:335: parse error before `_G_off64_t'
>> /usr/include/libio.h:335: warning: data definition has no type or
>> storage class
>> /usr/include/libio.h:336: parse error before `_IO_seekpos'
>> /usr/include/libio.h:336: parse error before `_G_fpos64_t'
>> /usr/include/libio.h:336: warning: data definition has no type or
>> storage class
>> In file included from /sda5/glibc-2.1/stdlib/isomac.c:74:
>> /usr/include/stdio.h:66: parse error before `fpos64_t'
>> /usr/include/stdio.h:66: warning: data definition has no type or storage
>> class
>> In file included from /sda5/glibc-2.1/stdlib/isomac.c:74:
>> /usr/include/stdio.h:66: parse error before `fpos64_t'
>> /usr/include/stdio.h:66: warning: data definition has no type or storage
>> class
>> In file included from /sda5/glibc-2.1/stdlib/isomac.c:74:
>> /usr/include/stdio.h:527: parse error before `fpos64_t'
>> /usr/include/stdio.h:528: parse error before `*'
>> make[2]: *** [/sda5/glibc-2.1-build/stdlib/isomac] Error 1
>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/sda5/glibc-2.1/stdlib'
>> make[1]: *** [stdlib/tests] Error 2
>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/sda5/glibc-2.1'
>> make: *** [check] Error 2
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
>I have hacked the include files by now and changed the occurences of
>_IO_fpos64_t
>to __off64_t. It does compile nicely now, but I don't like those hacking
>of
>the 'official' header files.
>
>Is it possible, that the egcs compiler gets confused by the multiple
>redefines
>of the storage type? Seemingly the header files were ok.
>I don't have a gcc installed to crosscheck it ;(
This was mentioned on the egcs mailing list, and the recommended solution
was to "move _G_config.h out of the way".
On my Slack-3.5 box at work, I have _G_config.h in /usr/include and
/usr/ix86-linux/include but when I was installing glibc-2.1 and egcs-1.1.1
at home I also had a copy in /usr/i586-pc-linux-gnulibc1/include .
I moved each copy out of the way, and then recompiled glibc and egcs. I'm
not sure if the glibc/egcs recompiles were needed, but they made me feel
better. Moving _G_config.h might be enough to fix compilations.
--
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.sparc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary)
Subject: ODBC driver for Linux?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:04:27 GMT
Does anyone know of a free or commercial implementation of ODBC for Linux? I
know Solaris has one but I haven't seen anything for a freenix. Thanks for any
info.
-Gary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: Re: floating point accuracy on Linux?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:17:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl) writes:
>Lot's snipped ...
>() the Intel CPU family is not 100 per cent IEEE compliant
I don't think it should take IEEE compliance to make 0.2*5-1 be 0.0.
FreeBSD does *on Intel*.
>() other CPU's use 64 bit for double while Intel CPU's use 80 bit
> internally.
I know, but -ffloat-store should take care of that. It does not in the
posted example.
>... so, the math library aside, you will see differences, for
>instance, if you compile with and without -f(no)-float-store.
sure, I expect so, but still I think 0.2*5-1 should be output as 0.0 and
not -5.551115e-17.
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From: "Paul Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux and fault tolerance
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:32:18 -0000
Does anyone know if Linux can be used to run fault tolerant systems?
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem on Make Command
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:58:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stephen Leung wrote:
>> I have downloaded some free software from the network that require me to
>> install it with the 'make command such as 'make' and 'make install' etc.
>> However, when I follow the readme to do so, it will come back with me the
>> error messages of missing 'cc' and 'gcc' etc.
> Before running the make command, you usually need to run ./configure.
>This will set up the necessary links needed for the make command.
Mr. Leung is missing make(1) and cc(1). ./configure is not going
to fix that.
Red Hat and other distributions often package make and cc in an optional
package set called "software development." These are only optional if
you have other systems around on which to compile the software you need.
To be self-sufficient, a general purpose Linux box needs make and cc,
and binutils, and asm86, because a complete installation needs a custom
compiled kernel which takes all those tools. "Software development"
is optional in case you want to install a very bare-bones print server
or something, and you'll be making its kernel elsewhere.
When Red Hat and the rest get serious about installability for
non-technical users, they'll start documenting stuff like that.
> I have found, though, that
>the majority of stuff that I have installed has gone without a hitch:)
I've been amazed at the quality of most open source software.
Ghostscript and Taylor UUCP, Qmail and gzip and the Linux kernel.
Big, complex packages that compile and work every time.
It's not all like that, though. Most graphics intensive stuff I
download simply doesn't compile, because my libraries are slightly
older or newer than the ones they were tested with, or they
require an obscure library that happened to exist on the author's
machine, but there are no instructions for obtaining and installing it.
A lot of stuff that requires termcap or terminfo doesn't work.
I was quite disappointed to discover the problem remains on
Debian and Red Hat, which were supposed to have solved it with
elaborate dependency databases.
Cameron
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