Linux-Misc Digest #55, Volume #25                 Thu, 6 Jul 00 11:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  A good mail server for Linux ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  [?]how to shrink libc? how to shrink libc according to selected applications? thx in 
advanced!:) please also reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jauming)
  Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW (Gareth Howell)
  samba + printer (Maik unruh)
  Re: Netscape and RedHat 6.2 (Rasputin)
  Re: Error 2 during Make Modules (Rasputin)
  Re: cron (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Case sensitive (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Scandisk (Dances With Crows)
  Compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel source tree (Nicholas Murison)
  Root can't take ownership of a file (REPOST) ("Marc Thompson")
  Re: Compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel source tree (Dances With 
Crows)
  Re: A good mail server for Linux ? (Jim Chisholm)
  Re: Elm date sent is way off (Bill Pemberton)
  HELP - RAID (Max TenEyck Woodbury)
  Re: Newbie:  Help with setting up server (Mark Hymers)
  PPP from ISP ("Marcm")
  Script to dial/redial ISP til connected? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Nothing is running, then what's it doing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Newbie:  Help with setting up server (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Nothing is running, then what's it doing? (Dances With Crows)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A good mail server for Linux ?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:25:04 -0700

Hello,

We are looking for a stable and simple mail server for Linux. 

It should have SMTP and POP3 builtin (that is, no need for Sendmail),
and a user data base that is independent of the users of the host. The
server should be stand alone and 'smart' such that it does not
requires a friendly SMTP server for mail distribution. We plan to use
it for 20-70 people so Scalabiltiy is not an issue. A price of up to
several hundreds $$$ is acceptable.

Any recommendation will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tal

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From: jauming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [?]how to shrink libc? how to shrink libc according to selected applications? 
thx in advanced!:) please also reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 09:33:53 GMT

[?]how to shrink libc?
how to shrink libc according to selected applications?
thx in advanced!:)
please also reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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regards


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From: Gareth Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mounting an ATAPI CD-RW
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:57:20 +0200

Hi !

Thanks for the help guys, it had something to do with the new
kernel (2.4 test 2), I recompiled with test 1 and everything worked
fine.

You were right about sr0, but it does it automatically when I try and
use scd0

Thanks
Gareth

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From: Maik unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba + printer
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:50:54 +0200

Hi!

i=B4ve installed my printer as a network-printer with samba. It works
fine, but with every print-job there is first a sheet printed showing
the owner of this print-job. I don=B4t want that!
It must be samba who produces this first sheet.

Where can i switch this off?

Thanks
Maik Unruh

-- =

mm concept               [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hard- & software   web-design   domain-hosting

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Netscape and RedHat 6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:06:49 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Jimi Aleshin> wrote:
>Yeah same thing happens to me sometimes. Hopefully when the new version6
>of Netscape comes out, all this won't happen. Netscape 6 is based on
>Netscape Gecko, a new, fully standards-compliant layout engine. 
>Everything is basically all brand new.

Is there any reason you're not using Mozilla
(since Netscape 6 preview I got was just a clanky old 
build of Mozilla anyway)?

M16 came out a week or so ago, and is very usable 
(if a memory-sucking RAM hog).

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.general,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: Error 2 during Make Modules
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:12:32 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <James C Causey Jr> wrote:
>I have done a fresh install of RedHat 6.0 and have tried a recompile of the
>kernel "as is".  My new bzImage is created just fine.  However, Make Modules
>fails during a net module, and bails with a Make [Error 2] and a description
>of the module in question.  Sure enough, the new kernel locks up during the
>Module Dependency load during bootup.

Never boot a kernel that didn't build properly.

>
>What on earth am I doing wrong?

What does the line above 'error 2' say?
Is it 'command not found' or what?

More info and we can probably help you here.

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: cron
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:16:07 GMT

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:14:16 +0100, "David Fleet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>cron keeps deleting a file from my tmp directory.
>
>Can I stop this by protecting the file with umask, so it's set to the t tag?
>
>How do I do this?
>
>Any help gratefully appreciated.
>
>Han.

You can protect the file (see the other posts to your question),
but...

/tmp is for _temporary_ files. All files and directories in /tmp are
eligable for deletion at any time. My suggestion would be for you to
move your file to some other directory.



Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Case sensitive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:16:57 GMT

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:11:36 -0700, Bernhard K�nig
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hey!
>
>How can I make Linux not case sensitive (Samba is it already
>)
>
>Ben

You cant


Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Scandisk
Date: 06 Jul 2000 08:40:46 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:27:43 GMT, Paul Eisenberg 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hey everyone, I am running without problems Corel Linux and I wanted
>to use scandisk and disk defrag with my windows partition but the
>problem is it gives me errors concerning the master boot record and
>such.  Is there anyway I can still run these programs and keep from
>making any major changes?  Thanks! Paul

Sounds like you installed LILO on the MBR, which is often not the best
option if Linux has to coexist with any variety of Windoze.  You can work
around this by making a boot disk in Linux, then booting to Lose9x,
running Scandisk, and letting it "correct the MBR error" (that is,
replacing LILO's MBR with a DOS MBR.)  Once that's done, boot Linux with
the boot disk you made, and re-run LILO, editing /etc/lilo.conf to install
the bootloader somehwere other than the MBR if at all possible, like
/dev/hda[2,3,4].  Then use fdisk to mark that partition as the active
partition, and Lose9x will be happier.

>P.S My Dad has the Nortan pack which also has a disk defrag/scandisk
>type of utility, would this work?

Maybe.  I've seen Norton Utilities work, for values of "work" that include
"scribble all over the raw disk."

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: Nicholas Murison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel source tree
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:45:37 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is there a way of compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel
source tree (i.e. modules that are contained in linux-2.x.xx.tar.gz)
without having to do make menuconfig ; make modules ; make
modules-install?  The reason I ask is I've compiled kernel 2.2.16 with
an assortment of modules, but I didn't compile the module for an
Ethernet card I'm about to install.  Doing the whole make process over
again seems a bit harsh.

Cheers,
-- 
Nicholas John Murison
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't mess with penguins
Registered Linux User #153895   http://counter.li.org

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From: "Marc Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Root can't take ownership of a file (REPOST)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:49:09 -0500

Greetings,

All at once, five of my RedHat Linux machines can no longer run 'make
whatis'.  The error is 'permission denied.'  I, as root, cannot take
ownership of the affected file.  It's as if the system doesn't believe I'm
root.

The current file permisions are 644 owned by root, group root.

The only change to the system(s) is that I pointed them to a new NIS server.

Any ideas?  Will fsck fix this?

Thanks in advance,
Marc Thompson


=======================================
Marc Thompson
BOPS, Inc.
Austin, TX



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel source tree
Date: 06 Jul 2000 09:03:06 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:45:37 +0200, Nicholas Murison 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Is there a way of compiling individual kernel modules from the kernel
>source tree (i.e. modules that are contained in linux-2.x.xx.tar.gz)
>without having to do make menuconfig ; make modules ; make
>modules-install?  The reason I ask is I've compiled kernel 2.2.16 with
>an assortment of modules, but I didn't compile the module for an
>Ethernet card I'm about to install.  Doing the whole make process over
>again seems a bit harsh.

How so?  If you haven't done "make clean" between the first time you tried
this and this time, the "make modules" process will be very very fast as
only the module that you add will be compiled--the other modules have
already been compiled, so make will see that and not compile them again.  
That's what make was designed to do, after all.

Take a look at the 1300-line Makefile in /usr/src/linux/drivers/net and
ask yourself if you really want to edit that thing by hand...

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: Jim Chisholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A good mail server for Linux ?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:04:26 -0300


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We are looking for a stable and simple mail server for Linux.
>
> It should have SMTP and POP3 builtin (that is, no need for Sendmail),
> and a user data base that is independent of the users of the host. The
> server should be stand alone and 'smart' such that it does not
> requires a friendly SMTP server for mail distribution. We plan to use
> it for 20-70 people so Scalabiltiy is not an issue. A price of up to
> several hundreds $$$ is acceptable.
>
> Any recommendation will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tal

Check out CommuniGate, I've been using the free trial version and it's
just great.

Jim


--

=======================================================
Jim Chisholm
Dalhousie University, Dept. Physics Halifax N.S. Canada
Halifax Regional Fire and Emergency Service
Captain/President  Bay Road Station 59
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hello,
<p>We are looking for a stable and simple mail server for Linux.
<p>It should have SMTP and POP3 builtin (that is, no need for Sendmail),
<br>and a user data base that is independent of the users of the host.
The
<br>server should be stand alone and 'smart' such that it does not
<br>requires a friendly SMTP server for mail distribution. We plan to use
<br>it for 20-70 people so Scalabiltiy is not an issue. A price of up to
<br>several hundreds $$$ is acceptable.
<p>Any recommendation will be greatly appreciated.
<p>Thanks,
<p>Tal</blockquote>
Check out CommuniGate, I've been using the free trial version and it's
just great.
<p>Jim
<br>&nbsp;
<pre>--&nbsp;

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Jim 
Chisholm&nbsp;<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Dalhousie University, Dept. Physics Halifax N.S. Canada
Halifax Regional Fire and Emergency Service&nbsp;
Captain/President&nbsp; Bay Road Station 59
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Pemberton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Elm date sent is way off
Date: 6 Jul 2000 13:19:48 GMT

In article <395c1b49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Clinton Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mail sent using ELM 2.4 PL25 on Linux appears to be have sent on Fri
>7/10/2893.  Is this a problem with ELM or Sendmail?  The CPU date looks
>fine.
>

2.4 doesn't do Y2K.  Get 2.5 (from ftp.virginia.edu in /pub/elm).

--
Bill



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From: Max TenEyck Woodbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP - RAID
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 09:48:09 -0400

First, is this getting to the news group? My other request
for help appears on my local server, but I've gotten no
responses.

Second, what is the proper source for help on RAID 5?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Hymers)
Subject: Re: Newbie:  Help with setting up server
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:58:41 GMT

One thing which is confusing me is when I am configuring networking
during setup and I am asked for my default gateway and primary
nameserver.  As far as I can figure out, the machine I am installing
on will be fulfilling these functions.  I will be using the
192.168.000.xxx range of IP addresses on the network.  I am also not
sure what to put as the domain name or host name as I don't have one -
do I just make one up?
Silly questions I know but I am confused and can't find information on
this in the documentation.

Mark

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From: "Marcm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP from ISP
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:05:17 -0700

I got my USR external modem working in Linux Redhat 6.0 with "minicom" and
now I want to make a connection with my ISP and get an IP address.

I dial the ISP and connect. I get a menu of choices like "Telnet, X28 PAD,
PPP, enter privileged command mode, etc, etc, Quit". I choose "PPP: Start
IETF Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP)".

After I choose PPP the ISP responds:

Entering PPP routing mode.
Async Interface address is unnumbered (Ethernet0)
Your IP address is 216.66.152.188. MTU is 1500 bytes.
Header compression will match your system.

(now a bunch of cryptic characters appear here. After about 30 seconds the
line drops and says NO CARRIER).


QUESTION:   What is the ISP expecting when I type in PPP, (some sort of
authentication?). I have already logged in to get to the menu where I chose
"PPP". What is expected at this point?

Thanks
Mark



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Script to dial/redial ISP til connected?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:59:56 GMT

 Would appreciate it if you could post a bash script that will dial
out to my ISP until connected (the ISP is plagued with busy signals at
peak hours). Eventually I will have this run using at, daily. TIA
Don't e-mail your response
Post it right here, but if you must, I'm also at
annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Nothing is running, then what's it doing?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:20:45 -0500

I have Red Hat 6.2 installed and have been using it for a month or so.
One thing I noticed is that after shutting down all my running programs
(according to Gnome's tasklist) the hard drive still access every few
seconds for hours and hours. I thought I shut everything down, but
something is still accessing the hard drive.

How can I find out what program is doing this? The system should just be
totally idle when not in use, right?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Newbie:  Help with setting up server
Date: 06 Jul 2000 10:39:05 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:58:41 GMT, Mark Hymers 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>One thing which is confusing me is when I am configuring networking
>during setup and I am asked for my default gateway and primary
>nameserver.  As far as I can figure out, the machine I am installing
>on will be fulfilling these functions.  I will be using the
>192.168.000.xxx range of IP addresses on the network.  I am also not
>sure what to put as the domain name or host name as I don't have one -
>do I just make one up?

The default gateway is the machine that packets will be sent to if the
machine you're trying to reach is not on the subnet.  For example, if you
are using 192.168.1.4 for your machine's IP and you are connected to the
outside world through a router that lives at 192.168.1.1, you'd put the
router's address in for the default gateway.  If your machine is not going
to be connected to the outside world at all, you can put your machine's IP
in as default gateway.

If you need to access the outside world, you have to put something in for
the main and secondary DNS server--otherwise, your machine will have no
way of translating a name like "foo.com" into an IP address like
111.222.111.222.  Again, if your machine is running a DNS server, you can
put your machine's IP in for the primary DNS.  If it isn't, and you're
connecting to the outside world via an ISP, call up your ISP and ask them
what their DNS servers' IP addresses are, then put those numbers in.

Domain and hostnames don't matter if you're not connected to the outside
world; just make one up.  Every Unix machine must have a hostname; RedHat
sets the hostname to "localhost" upon boot if you don't specify one.  If
you are connected to the outside world, you can contact a number of places
and register a domain name for yourself, then run DNS and BIND on your
machine so that it can tell the rest of the world, "mydomain.org has IP
address 111.222.333.444".

Further info can be found at http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ , especially in
the Net3-HOWTO.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Nothing is running, then what's it doing?
Date: 06 Jul 2000 10:49:21 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:20:45 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<<8k24ku$2gr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have Red Hat 6.2 installed and have been using it for a month or so.
>One thing I noticed is that after shutting down all my running programs
>(according to Gnome's tasklist) the hard drive still access every few
>seconds for hours and hours. I thought I shut everything down, but
>something is still accessing the hard drive.
>How can I find out what program is doing this? The system should just be
>totally idle when not in use, right?

Well, let's see... a stock Linux install has a number of daemons running
all the time, like crond, syslogd, and atd.  crond checks its crontabs
every minute to see if there's something that it should be doing.  syslogd
writes to the system log at least every 20 minutes, just to say
"everything's OK".  You do not want to shut down either of those daemons.

If you want your system to shut down completely and be idle, "shutdown -h
now" should help.  A Linux system is constantly active even when no user
processes are running--the gettys for virtual consoles are listening for
login attempts, xdm is waiting for someone to log in to X, the syslogd is
logging important system events, crond is watching for cron jobs....

If the disk access every few seconds bothers you, edit /etc/inittab and
change the line that says "/sbin/update" to "/sbin/update -fX -sX" where X
is a value in seconds.  There is a risk associated with this; if you make
X large and the system loses power suddenly, filesystem damage is likely.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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