Linux-Misc Digest #55, Volume #28 Thu, 7 Jun 01 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Matt Blaze's CFS on Linux - readdir problem. (Nate Eldredge)
Re: How much is Linux (TM) worth? (Jonas Diemer)
Re: fetchmail config problem (Larry Ebbitt)
Re: Matt Blaze's CFS on Linux - readdir problem. ("Binesh Bannerjee")
Re: /dev on vfat partition ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: AC'97 sound chips on board - no sound in RedHat 7.0 (Jerry Kreps)
Re: How much is Linux (TM) worth? (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Internet probs (Dave Uhring)
Re: newly exposed to linux server with 98 clients (Dave Uhring)
How disable (setterm blank, powerdown, powersave) on system console? (wb0gaz)
Re: Compiling QT - doesnt accept custom include directory (Dave Uhring)
Getting Plan 9 kernel source (Chen Wang)
Re: List of all command in section (3FE)
gnu parted? (F. Heitkamp)
Re: New Server: Hardware under Linux (John-Paul Stewart)
Re: sendmail POP3 question ("Ben Guevremont")
WINE.CONF (Pete Clements)
Re: New Server: Hardware under Linux (Juergen Sauer)
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From: Nate Eldredge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Matt Blaze's CFS on Linux - readdir problem.
Date: 07 Jun 2001 15:11:40 -0700
"Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi.
> First of all, I've been trying to subscribe to the mail list,
> and have as of yet been unsuccessful. Is it still up?
>
> Now, to the real problem:
> I hacked at the CFS source, till I got it to work, and it works...
> _basically_... I haven't lost any files, and all the files md5 sum the same,
> but, I noticed that when in large CFS'd directories, command completion and
> shell metacharacter expansion wasn't working, but ls and friends did work
> (I'm running CFS-1.4.1 on Linux 2.4.5 with the out of the box NFS from
> RedHat 6.2) I tracked it down to this:
> if you read a large CFS directory with readdir it doesn't get
> all of the files, but readdir64 will work... Has anyone else
> had this problem, and if so, how do I go about fixing it?
How large? There's a reason readdir64 exists, you know.
--
Nate Eldredge
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:26:07 +0200
From: Jonas Diemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How much is Linux (TM) worth?
On 7 Jun 2001 14:51:55 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wroot) wrote:
> I wonder how much Microsoft would pay Linus to buy the Linux trademark
> (they can't buy all the code that was written under GPLs, but they can
> buy the trademark, can't they?)
>
> Wroot
Well, that would suck because then they could try and forbit us calling
linux "linux"... but I bet they'd loose any lawsuit.
but I think Linus won't sell us :-)
--
Jonas Diemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ebbitt)
Subject: Re: fetchmail config problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Jun 2001 22:42:10 GMT
>>hey, just doing my job. If you have another position available
>>for me let me know. Thanks for the info though...
>
> Being paid to do it does NOT make it any more appropriate.
> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We don't know that it's sapm. It may well be notifications to
customers. I get many from Lexmark and amazon.com, for instance,
that go to thousands of others.
--
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta
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From: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Matt Blaze's CFS on Linux - readdir problem.
Date: 7 Jun 2001 22:32:37 GMT
In comp.os.linux.security Nate Eldredge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> (I'm running CFS-1.4.1 on Linux 2.4.5 with the out of the box NFS from
:> RedHat 6.2) I tracked it down to this:
:> if you read a large CFS directory with readdir it doesn't get
:> all of the files, but readdir64 will work... Has anyone else
:> had this problem, and if so, how do I go about fixing it?
: How large? There's a reason readdir64 exists, you know.
I'm sure, tho I'm not clear on what it's for... (No man pages for it
at least on my box... From the question, it would seem that you imply
that the 64 bitness of readdir is meant to address directories greater
than 2 (4?) GB in length. No, the directory is nowhere _near_ that huge...
I have only at _most_ a hundred or so entries... Even if it's for
filesize, I don't have anything that is greater than 2GB (not even close)
What is the rational for readdir64? Only other thing I can think of is for
inode sizes... It probably is, since I see __ino64_t defined in various
places of /usr/include/bits...
Anyway, I think this whole bit is a red herring, tho, because, readdir64
returns me a certain subset, and readdir returns me a different subset,
_neither_ of which, apparently gives me the complete directory listing,
and I'm at a loss as to how to figure out where the problem is...
I've recompiled cfs with -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 and I still have the
same problem...
In reading the docs for CFS, I get the feeling, that it wasn't meant
to do the things that I want it for... I want to encrypt my entire
home directory (The _whole_ directory is about 1.5GB total distributed
over about 2027 directories, 542 links and 26636 files...
I don't think any of what I have would bump into any 32 bit limits...
If it wasn't for the fact that it's crypto, and my experience with it is
limited, I'd tear into the code, -Wall -Werror everything, and attempt
to figure it out...
Here are some other things I've done:
I cattach -l 'd the directory, so it wouldn't create it's
.pvector_<encrypted_file> -> IV links, and, then I get another interesting
problem... Which is, that then, after I put _some_ files on there, it
makes the directory look invisible (???)... All the files and directories
are _there_, and I can cd to them, if I know what I'm looking for, but
ls doesn't show it... (the real one, and one made with readdir and readdir64)
*shrug*
It's important enough to me, that I _am_ tearing into the code anyway,
I am just hoping someone has already been through this, or maybe that
there's something stupid that I'm doing that will solve my problem...
Thanks...
Binesh Bannerjee
: --
: Nate Eldredge
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev on vfat partition
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:26:40 +0200
Agent Smiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Agent Smiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> RH sucks more resources than windows. I am trying to save
>>> disk space. Therefore your loopback solution won't work.
>>
>>You need about 8MB for a sensible working networked installed system
>>(stripped down debian, but you can strip down anything).
> No. I want to build desktop. Why would I otherwise bother
?? Well, in that case you'll need about 80MB of space.
> with W95? I have 1G of disk, OSes eat up around 400MB of
I don't understand your argument. Wanting to build a desktop does
not imply bothering with W95, and in any case I was not aware of
any interest of yours in W95, and nor have you mentioned it thus far.
> it.
> Btw, how do you force linux to use umsdos/dmsdos on rootfs
> instead of vfat/msdos? It seems to rely on some
> autodetection feature.
?? I don't understand. Your rootfs MUST be umsdos, if it is vfat at
all, or else linux can't use it. So you will have to format it as
umsdos, and mount it as umsdos, and build umsdos support into your
kernel.
> Also, I don't understand what did you say about /linux
> configuration in other post. It isn't in docs and my
It's perfectly simple (why am I repeating this???): the
rootfs must form the \linux subdirectory of your dos
root partition. Or at least that used to be the case in the past. I
don't know if that is true of current code, as I've not done a umsdos
boot for years. Slsackware used to have a umsdos boot disk. Look at
theirs.
Look also at init/main.c in the kernel source code:
/*
* We try each of these until one succeeds.
*
* The Bourne shell can be used instead of init if we are
* trying to recover a really broken machine.
*/
if (execute_command)
execve(execute_command,argv_init,envp_init);
execve("/sbin/init",argv_init,envp_init);
execve("/etc/init",argv_init,envp_init);
execve("/bin/init",argv_init,envp_init);
execve("/bin/sh",argv_init,envp_init);
panic("No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.");
OTOH the notes in the umsdos code indicate that things are as I
remember. READ the fscking code, please!
Note: (about pseudoroot) If you are currently trying to use UMSDOS as root
partition (with linux installed in c:\linux) it will boot, but there may be
some problems. Volunteers ready to test pseudoroot are needed (preferably
ones with working backups or unimportant data). For example, '/DOS' pseudo
directory is only partially re-implemented and buggy. It works most of the
time, though. Update: should work ok in 0.84, although it still does not
work correctly in combination with initrd featere. Working on this!
Talk to the author:
in few days. If I don't, probably I never got your message. You can try
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; however [EMAIL PROTECTED] is preferable.
> experiment failed.
>>> Also I don't like commercial distros (due to RH XP).
>>
>>XP?
> experience :)
Peter
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AC'97 sound chips on board - no sound in RedHat 7.0
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:41:36 -0500
Wayne Osborn wrote:
> In article <9flnok$v1j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Wilson Ng"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My on-board sound chip VIA AC97 audio controller (WDM) works fine
> > with
> > WinME. I tried to run sndconfig to enable the sound in my Linux
> > installation in RedHat 7.0. The program detected that the sound
> > device is VIA82cxxx. After I confirm the autoprobe was done and my
> > system hangs. I rebooted Linux and the startup freeze when
> > starting the sound module.
> >
> > Any body can help?
> >
> > Thanks, Wilson.
> >
>
> I had the very same trouble with my EPoX 8KTA3. In the bios, you
> have to turn on "Onboard Legacy Audio" AND "SoundBlaster".
>
> /etc/modules.conf is as follows:
>
> alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx
> options sb support=1
>
> Now I still have a problem, the audio output level is very low,
> expecially CD (hardly audible) even with the mixer set to
> "eleven"...
>
> Will try the Alsa driver as recommended by Bill Piety - cheers!
>
I had the same chipset on my Athlon and finally turned it off and
plugged in an SB Live card. The I got a driver from 4Front (OSS) and
my sound is now awesome!
JLK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: How much is Linux (TM) worth?
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 22:52:51 -0000
* Wroot wrote:
> I wonder how much Microsoft would pay Linus to buy the Linux trademark
> (they can't buy all the code that was written under GPLs, but they can
> buy the trademark, can't they?)
I'm fairly certain they have investigated the matter and if they could
make such an offer, they will have made it.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Reasons Why a Beer is Better Than a Woman:
(2) A beer would never own a car with an automatic transmission.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet probs
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:53:31 -0500
Pete Clements wrote:
> Okay, i have set the internet up. I use kppp to dial up. It dials and
> connects to my ISP all ok. But i cannot ping/browse ot telnet
> anything. It does not send or recieve data at all. Is this permissions
> or config or what? Not even root can browse or anything. I have added
> myself to a few groups that i thought may make a difference but
> nothing!
>
> Many thanks for any help.
>
> Pete
>
You need to set up /etc/resolv.conf.
nameserver 111.222.333.444
nameserver 111.222.333.445
search your.isps.domain
Get the nameserver addresses from your ISP. While you are at it, get his
gateway address also to put into the kppp config (if it still needs it,
don't use ppp myself - got a cable modem).
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newly exposed to linux server with 98 clients
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:55:12 -0500
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> scot key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> educational software for linux. For example, we want a typing program
>
> What's a "typing program?"?
>
>> with network admin/database capability. I see "runtime revolution"
>
> ???
>
> Peter
>
That's a school he is at. A "typing program" is most likely a tutorial. I
had several for MS-DOS for my children.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (wb0gaz)
Subject: How disable (setterm blank, powerdown, powersave) on system console?
Date: 7 Jun 2001 16:00:15 -0700
I want to disable blank/powerdown on the console of my RH7-based
linux box; I understand the /sbin/console program is what's serving
the main CRT but I don't see where to tell it about these parameters
so it will stay on continuously which is what I want. Previous
post on this subject referred me to setterm which looks just like
what I want, but I can't figure out where to plug the options in!
Help?
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling QT - doesnt accept custom include directory
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:02:36 -0500
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Anton Suchaneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi again,
>
>>>> I need to install QT in the home directory (non root). I downloaded
>>>> qt-2.2.4 from ftp.troll.no and configured with
>>>> ./configure -I/usr/src/linux/include
>>> This is not a valid configure option. Try configure --help !
>> Thats what configure is saying:
>> Usage: ./configure [-debug] [-release] [-shared] [-static] [-gif]
>> [-no-gif]
>
> If it says that, then it is NOT a standard configure script.
>
>> \
>> [-sm] [-no-sm] [-thread] [-no-thread] [-qt-zlib] [-system-zlib] \
>> [-qt-libpng] [-system-libpng] [-no-jpeg] [-system-jpeg] \
>> [-no-<module>] [-kde] [-Istring] [-Lstring] [-Rstring]
>> [[-lstring]T
>> ...
>> -Istring ........... Add an explicit include path.
>
> Yes, OK, apparently yes. This is a nonstandard configure script that
> accepts nonstandard arguments. It is not generated by autoconf. But
> your include path in itself is nonsense: you do NOT want to include
> kernel headers in a userspace compilation.
>
>> -Lstring ........... Add an explicit library path.
>> -Rstring ........... Add an explicit dynamic library runtime search
>> path.
>> -lstring ........... Add an explicit library.
>>>> But it still cannot find the headers there (errno.h, limits.h). Why
>>>> does it
>>>
>>> Where?
>> In /usr/src/linux it should be searching for include/errno.h
>>> Your argument is meaningless. It might be better if it told you instead
>>> of ignoring it!
>> It is telling me about wrong arguments when I use somethings meaningless.
>> Thanks for help
>
> ??
>
> errno.h and limits.h are in your standard include path. They're in
> /usr/include:
>
> barney:/usr/oboe/ptb/tex/general% locate /limits.h
> /usr/include/limits.h
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-slackware-linux/egcs-2.91.66/include/limits.h
> ....
>
>
> barney:/usr/oboe/ptb/tex/general% locate /errno.h
> /usr/include/bits/errno.h
> /usr/include/errno.h
> /usr/include/sys/errno.h
> ...
>
> and if you don't have them then you have a messed up installation of
> the C headers and you can't compile any C code, let alone libqt.
>
> Peter
>
What you are looking for is the -platform option. I suppose that you
already have libpng, libz and libjpeg installed so your configure line will
look like this:
./configure -gif -thread -system-zlib -system-libpng -system-jpeg
-no-g++-exceptions -platform linux-g++
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From: Chen Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting Plan 9 kernel source
Date: 7 Jun 2001 23:01:41 GMT
Hi, anyone know how I can get a copy of the kernel
source for Plan 9? Searching on google and lucent's
website didn't yield any source code links.
thanks,
-Chen
=======================================
Vader: ehh.. yur paw Luke..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE)
Subject: Re: List of all command in section
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:31:55 GMT
On Mon, 21 May 2001 13:23:50 GMT, A.M. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Alex Vinokur wrote:
>
> > Can we get list of all commands in some section (using the man command or
> > something else).?
>
> do a man on man. That will show you how to get the complete listings,
Or, if you're running X Windows (KDE, Gnome, ...) do:
xman -notopbox -bothshown &
Point and click interface to the man pages.
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
TopQuark Software & Serv. Contract programmer, server bum.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give up Spammers; I use procmail.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F. Heitkamp)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:34:06
Subject: gnu parted?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Has anyone used GNU parted on Linux?
I downloaded it and it looks fairly
cryptic to use. Is there a GUI
frontend somewhere, preferably ncurses
based?
Is there any example sessions posted
somewhere?
Fred
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From: John-Paul Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: New Server: Hardware under Linux
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:21:32 -0400
Robert Ullman wrote:
>
> Byron,
>
> Thanks for your input. I do have a question.
> Why is raid/caching pretty pointless if we're
> only going to use two drives?
>
> For our application, we cannot afford to lose
> data, and we cannot afford to be down for long
> if a disk crashes. I thought RAID 1, using only
> 2 disks, would be what we need to do.
> What would u recommend?
>
> Robert
I'd do software RAID in your case. I couldn't justify the
extra cost for a fancy raid card when the Linux kernel's
software RAID ought to do just fine in a two-disk RAID-1
situation.
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From: "Ben Guevremont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: sendmail POP3 question
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:55:15 GMT
Actually ipop3 is part of imap2000 on the install CD. You can check if you
have it installed using: "rpm -q imap"
Ben
"Ben Guevremont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:V5JT6.83956$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ipop3 is on one of your 2 install CD. Just use GnoRPM to install it. Then
> you have to turn it on by going into the console prompt and run setup >
> services > select ipop3.
>
>
> "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am running RH 7.1 and sendmail. I have sendmail up and working and an
> > MX record in DNS with my ISP for my domain. Anyone know how I now turn
> > my Linux box into a POP3 server? Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
> > Lamar
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Clements)
Subject: WINE.CONF
Date: 7 Jun 2001 17:02:52 -0700
Can someone post/email me a copy of thier wine.conf file as
mine seems to be blank and i ame not brave enough to code it myself
from the man pages. I have tried re-installing the latest ver of
wine and it stills seems not to put anything in that file.
Many thanks in advance.
Pete.
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From: Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: New Server: Hardware under Linux
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
Robert Ullman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am Wed, 06 Jun 2001 19:50:51 -0500 in comp.os.linux.misc:
> Hi.
[...]
> Hardware:
> - ASUS A7M266 motherboard.
> - AMD Athlon 1.3GHz 384kb cache, socket A, T-BIRD 266MHz.
> - Adaptec 3200S RAID controller PCI to U160 w/32MB SDRAM 80MIPS 64bit.
> Adaptec 64MB ECC SO-DIMM for the RAID controller.
> Adaptec battery backup for 3200S RAID.
We stay away from Adaptec Hardware. Adaptec does not support Linux directly
very well. Waranty is badly given. (as we know and tried in Germany).
That's why we prefer ICP-vortex Raid controllers,
because they give complete support and waranty for Linux. For trouble
shooting the ICP Support phones back within a few minutes.
(Checked on builing a 4.8 TeraByte Array, the support came back after
30 minutes, patch for the problem after 2 hours, via eMail.)
Price is equal. ICP perfoms IMHO much better support.
The addiditonal RAID control utilities are for ICP in Linux also.
ICP was the first company with all-around Linux support and waranty.
[...]
mfG
Jojo
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