Linux-Misc Digest #55, Volume #20 Tue, 4 May 99 09:13:18 EDT
Contents:
Re: mail config (Przem Kowalczyk)
Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing? (Alan J Rosenthal)
What is "Asymetrix"? What can I do for fix it? (Sok Ha Chang)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Donal K.
Fellows)
Re: Linux's Last Chance (David Tansley)
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Richard Corfield)
Re: DFP digital LCD monitor, Matrox card, framebuffer/X woes (Marc Mutz)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism ("Boris")
Re: run windows 95 apps on a linux client from a sco server with merge? (Roberto
Zini)
Re: LaTeX on RedHat6 (Marc Mutz)
Re: Help! Null modem and pppd (Ray)
Re: JDK in Linux (Andrew Comech)
Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ? (Robin Jackson)
Need Help on a CashDesk Solution via DosEmu ("Ray")
Re: Change Linux filesystem to Win98 ("ed johnson")
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Ray)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Sam Holden)
GNOME Question: tcp_ioctl: revised: (Ben)
GNOME Question: tcp_ioctl (Ben)
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Donal K.
Fellows)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: mail config
Date: 4 May 1999 06:06:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anup Rao in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>Does anybody know how to change the 'From: ' header in mail that you send
>from pine?
If you've got pine >= 4.05 you should add something like this to your .pinerc:
feature-list=enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation,
{ list of other features }
enable-full-header-cmd
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and then:
customized-hdrs=From: Przem Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If you've got older pine version you have to recompile it with appropriate
option enabled.
Przem
--
I will try not to breathe.
I can hold my head still with my hands at my knees.
R.E.M
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Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?
Date: 4 May 99 10:58:22 GMT
Chris Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>With regard to Bill Unruh's original complaint, yes I see the reason for the
>rant. However with Linux's changing audience, distributions _must_ be
>oriented towards ease of use for the user. If you want Linux to succeed
>that is.
This is one of the reasons I say that a kernel solution should be pursued.
A way to permit people to run console graphics without root. It would
probably require a sun-like chown of some /dev files upon console login as
Barry Margolin notes:
Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>If a non-suid program could do what svgalib does, it would mean that any
>ordinary program could take complete control over the console. Now *that*
>would be a security hole!
>
>Actually, there are other ways to implement things like this. In Solaris,
>when you login on the console the ownership of certain devices is assigned
>to you (the file /etc/logindevperm specifies this). This allows programs
>like the X server to give direct access to the console to the user who
>logged in on the physical console.
As may now be obvious, I'm talking about the second idea, not the first.
A non-suid-root program should be able to achieve the EFFECT which svgalib
does, not necessarily through the same exact method. The things which svgalib
needs to run as root for should be offered by the kernel to non-root users in
some secure way, perhaps via a device file which gets chowned upon console
login as you note.
Of course, it's easy for me to say this because I don't have to do it. As I
mentioned, I don't know the technical details behind what svgalib is using
root for, and I don't know how hard it would be to eliminate the root
requirement. It's definitely theoretically possible, though.
Stefan Davids <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Anything that runs under svgalib has to run as root to call
>vga_init(), according to the man page the root privileges are dropped
>in that function call. The man page also recommends calling vga_init()
>as the first line of the program.
>
>Consquently how secure the program is coded is irrelevant for root
>exploits and I suspect vga_init() itself has been fairly well
>scrutinized.
This is quite wrong. To take the easiest shot at it, if the program does not,
in fact, call vga_init() as the very first thing it does, then anything prior
to the vga_init() call is running as root and can do arbitrarily bad things.
Also, I kinda doubt that the only thing which requires root is some setup.
I imagine that continued access to the display uses some capability obtained
in vga_init(), e.g. an open() of something or other. Chris Evans mentions
some capabilities which remain, and there might be others as far as I know,
feel free to contribute details.
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From: Sok Ha Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is "Asymetrix"? What can I do for fix it?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 20:02:37 +0900
I want to use some window program through 'wine'
(This program is a 'English Conversation CD-ROM )
When I run this program through wine, I gat a window that show
"This executable requires the Asymetrix Multimedia ToolBook runtime
system. Please make sure these files are installed and in the PATH"
(Multimedia ToolBook is the Program name.)
What can I do?
Please, give me some comments.
Thank you. =)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 4 May 1999 10:52:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sam Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [^X]*
>
> Since Y is matches by [^X] anyway and you since there can be 0 Ys there's
> no need to specify it...
>
> Probably should be [^X]+ unless you can have none... ;)
Hmph. Why not go straight for [^X]{2} and be done with it? (OK, so
it's not a simple RE, but it is simpler in practise!)
RE pedants should use [^X][^X] instead. :^)
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Tansley)
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:13:08 GMT
brian moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I would look into that before attempting to diagnose anything else: a
: bad bit in RAM can do nasty nasty things, including everything you cite
: here.
:
: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/
Thanks, I checked this out, and there may be some truth in what you say.
It seems that there a problem with K6-2 300's manufactured in weeks 32-39
last year.
Anyone care to hazzard a guess when I bought mine?
Bummer
--
Dave
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From: Richard Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: 4 May 1999 07:50:42 +0100
In article <7gkikp$ur8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John and Lucy Hayward-Warburton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dave Tansley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> For the first time ever, I get a segmentation fault about 5 minutes into
>> compiling.....*sob*
>
>I used to get this when my motherboard was overheating.
That just caused hangs for me. Putting the extra hard drive and a bigger
chip in the poor old 486SX33 didn't do it much good (the hard drive
getting in the way of the air flow a bit). It needed an extra fan and
a new processor.
- Richard.
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Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:30:15 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: DFP digital LCD monitor, Matrox card, framebuffer/X woes
Hi!
Use Modes "default" (or something similar, see the
XF86FBDev-documentation available from xfree.org).
Marc Mutz
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Reply-To: "Boris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Boris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 01:12:42 -0700
Many patents in computer industry are complete bullshit. For example, Network
Associates
got patent on stateful host-based intrusion detection: program reads events from OS
audit
logs and tries to determine when an intrusion attempt is made. Patents like this one
are
complete joke; however, they don't seem to work. At least, in this particular case NAI
has been suing competitors for a long time without success.
However, actual copyright laws should be maintained. The same rules apply to books,
movies, etc. After all, if you want to give away your software you are free to do so.
And
some people do! For example, PGP was distributing their software for free; but it was
bought for REAL money (~30 million).
Boris
Martin Ozolins wrote in message <7glage$65p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Interesting discussion, I must admit that I had never looked at the effects
>of abolishing copyrights from this perspective. As I recall, Sun already
>uses a sort of super dongle approach for Solaris, it's registered by the CPU
>Serial Number. I think that Intel and Microsoft already have an
>infrastructure in place, in case the DOJ takes the step you've described.
>Makes you wonder.
>
>My thoughts on this were of a different vein.
>
>If all software is free: No revenues are generated from gratis products;
> Companies without revenues cannot pay
>their employees;
> Programmers need new careers to pay for
>luxuries like food etc;
> No students choose programming as career
>path because there are no jobs.
>Result: Software stagnates;
> Entropy increases;
> Economies fail
> People starve.
>
>Conclusion: Not a good idea. Let's keep the protection of
>intellectual property in place.
>Andrew Carol wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ed Avis
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> In any case, this situation is hypothetical. But I am sure that if
>>> governments did decide to abolish copyrights on software, they would
>>> also abolish legal protection for any obvious workarounds.
>>
>>Of course. But the venders would have the freedom to make as clever a
>>solution as they wanted. You could even distribute encrypted code
>>which is only decrypted in the CPU itself. (That's been done, it's too
>>slow today, but you never know).
>>
>>We might even get away from buying software to running it over the net
>>for a fee.
>>
>>I am just not prepared to think that the simple abolishion of copy
>>right will help to create a utopian world of free software where we get
>>all the great high-quality stuff we want.
>>
>>I see an arms race between crackers and venders, with the venders
>>making it so expensive to crack that it's just cheaper and more
>>convienent to pay them their due. Integrating the protection into the
>>CPU is probably the best bet in terms of making it real hard to crack.
>>
>>Oh well.....
>
>
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From: Roberto Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: run windows 95 apps on a linux client from a sco server with merge?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:27:15 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chriseli de Rama wrote:
>
> quickie question:
> is it possible to run windows 95 applications sitting on a sco openserver
> 5.0.5 server with sco merge on a linux client?
>
> if so, how is it done? what other softwares do i need? do you know of any
> resources on which i could get more information on this?
>
> thanks a bunch!
>
> chriseli
Well, I didn't try with Linux but I did try the above with an X-Terminal
(NCD Explora 400) and it worked fine. The above **should** work under
Linux if this OS does have an X-Window interface; from Linux, do an
"xhost sco_server" (again, if Linux supports it), telnet into the
SCO OS 5.0.5 machine, set the DISPLAY variable accordingly to your
configuration (eg, DISPLAY=linux:0.0 ; export DISPLAY), set the
XMERGE variable to vga and fire up mergeby using "win +x".
Hope this helps !
Best,
Roberto
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Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:47:27 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LaTeX on RedHat6
Thomas Fischer wrote:
>
> hi.
>
> I desperately need help with my new RedHat6.
> By now I used SuSE and after installation LeTeX
> always was just...there.
>
> But now, when compiling texts on the new RedHat
> all I get is:
>
> ! LaTeX Error: File 'scrreprt.cls' not found.
>
> ...or equivalent with other document types.
>
> What do I have to do to make LaTeX work?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Thomas
Try texconfig as user. Then select rehash and it should run well. Else
do a 'locate srcreprt.cls' and see i you have it on your HD.
Marc Mutz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: Help! Null modem and pppd
Date: 4 May 1999 07:41:16 GMT
On Mon, 03 May 1999 16:03:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Server side:
> Machine name: depaul.mydomain.com.au
> /etc/hosts--reads as:
> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain local
> 192.168.1.1 depaul.mydomain.com.au depaul
> 192.168.1.2 presario.mydomain.com.au presario
>
>typed in at a terminal is:
> pppd -detach crtscts lock 192.168.1.1:192.168.1.2 /dev/ttyS1 38400 local &
>
>Client side:
> Machine name: presario.mydomain.com.au
> /etc/hosts--reads as:
> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
> 192.168.1.2 presario.mydomain.com.au presario
> 192.168.1.1 depaul.mydomain.com.au depaul
>
>typed in at the terminal is:
> pppd -detach crtscts lock /dev/ttyS0 38400 &
Shouldn't this be:
pppd -detach crtscts lock 192.168.1.2:192.168.1.1 dev/ttyS0 38400 local &
>
>The ps command shows pppd with the respective paremeters running on each
>machine. I try to: ping 192.168.1.1 but get no response from the box about
>1.5metres away :-(
What happens when you try to ping from the server? What is the output of
netstat -rn on each machine?
Here is the procedure I use to track this sort of problem:
Try running ifconfig on each machine and note the output. Now ping from
one of the machines and re-run ifconfig on both machines and especially note
the RX packets on the "other" machine and of course errors. Now ping from
the other side and re-run ifconfig on both ends again.
I hope this gets you pointed in the right direction.
--
Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: JDK in Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 May 1999 23:41:04 -0500
On Tue, 04 May 1999 01:51:41 GMT, Mark Robinson wrote:
>Has anyone been able to set this up? If you have please post
>instructions, thanx.
>
Just download JDK from http://www.blackdown.org/
the appropriate version (libc5 or glibs) and follow the
installation instructions (in README.linux); it worked for me
(both Java 1.1 and Java 1.2)...
a.
--
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Jackson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:04:16 +0100
In article <65vX2.3927$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Larry Brasfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am just refining Michael's tips a little.
>His advice is essentially correct. In
>fact, it applies for use of X in general.
>
>Michael P. Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:B6uX2.1201$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> 1. Start your xserver on the pc. You may need to configure it to run in
>> "Single window mode", or whatever.
>
>The MiX server (MicroImages X server as
>referred to below) comes as a set of .exe's
>for the Windows platform. The icon that is
>installed launches TNTSTART.exe which
>starts both the server itself, XS.exe, and a
>window manager TWM.exe. (I don't know
>how the window manager runs on the server
>instead of the client as is usual with X, but
>it doesn't matter here.)
>
>To use (one of) the Linux window managers,
>(KDE in my case), just be sure XS.exe has
>been started first on the Windows machine,
>the one whose net name is "pcaddress" here.
>
>For your Mac, I'm sure there is a similar split
>of responsibility among executable images,
>but they will be named differently, of course.
>
>> 2. Telnet into your linux box, login as your userid
>
>I don't think the MiX server enforces any kind
>of access privilege based on userid. You can
>also start this from the Linux console if you do
>not have telnet on your Mac.
>
>> 3. set your DISPLAY variable: "export DISPLAY=pcaddress:0.0"
>
>That's the bash or ksh invocation. Under csh or
>tcsh you would "setenv DISPLAY pcaddress:0.0".
>
>> 4. run your .xinit or /etc/X11/xinit verify these file locs first I
>> can't remember where they live.
>
>It is sufficient to start the window manager
>at this point. For example, I do "startkde".
>
>If this was too detailed an explanation, I
>apologize. It is easy to gloss over some
>non-obvious details.
Hi
Your detail is fine, HOWEVER....
I followed the exact details as above and then type startx it STILL starts
up on my laptop not the remote X machine.
Is there something I am missing?
Robin'
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From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.msdos,telekabel.linux
Subject: Need Help on a CashDesk Solution via DosEmu
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 08:02:58 GMT
Hi, i have a Problem.
We are selling Computer Cash Desk now for 10 years. The Cashdesk Software is
a DOS Program. We have now Problems with Windows because it kills the xBase
Databases.
I explain the Cashdesk now how it works on the PC�s
There is a PC for every Cashdesk, mostly 1-3, and one PC for the Office
Work. These Computers are connected over Ethernet via RG58 or
PatchPanel/Hubs. The CashDesk consist of a Computer with a CashBox. The
CashBox is connected over a COMPort to the PC. The work is done over this
CashBox and the normal PC-Keyboard is very rarly used.
Now the Linux Situation how i want it that it works:
I want now create a Server using Linux and DosEmu which is also used as
office working place.
There is the first problem, but i think this don�t belong to you: I need an
AutoLogon.
Connected to this Server are 1,2 or 3 Terminals, i think over a ethernet.
This Terminals should be the Cash Desks.
Now the Problem is: I have to connect the CashBox to the Terminal via COM.
How does DOSEMU like this? If i run DosEmu on this Terminal, is the Comport
of the Terminal used or that from the Server? I have to turn on the
Terminal, then automaticaly the Logon to the Server have to bee made AND the
CashBox Program has to be Started AND after working the connection has to be
closed.
Please I hope you can help me there...
I am using SuSE Linux 6.1 with Kernel 2.2.5, DosEmu 98.? (I believe 6).
Regards
The Ray
Where i work http://www.ultrasonic.at
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From: "ed johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change Linux filesystem to Win98
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:05:37 +0100
Try fdisk /mbr
that should work
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
news.nationwide.net wrote in message <7gkqcl$k2j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I just moved my Linux to another, more powerful, machine. I did a fresh
>install and all is working fine. However, the old machine is needed for a
>Win95 workstation. I'm unable to delete/remove the Linux filesystem
>information
>using 'fdisk'. A logical drive is not defined, but 'fdisk' thinks it is
and
>therefore won't delete the partition.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 08:57:32 GMT
On Mon, 3 May 1999 16:26:39 +0100, Dave Tansley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>1) LILO just doesnt work. Not even the usual "gets to LI then hangs"
>problem. Nope, this gives me the full "LILO" prompt, followed by a very
>mocking "Loading Linux......" message. But after that, nothing, nada, zippo,
>zilch. Deader than a night out in Leeds. No errors messages, no cryptic
>numbers or witty panic statement. Just dead. The fact that it gets past
>"Loading Linux....." seems to suggest to me that LILO has worked, but the
>Kernel is at fault? Anyone help here? My motherboard is a crappy PC Chips
>M572.
First, see the other comments about the need to re-install LILO after
upgrading RedHat.
>
>2) Okay, so this wouldnt be too much of a problem. In fact, it was the same
>with 5.1, and I got around it with using Loadlin. And I figured that I'd use
>this again. So I copied the vmlinuz kernel from the distribution CD and
>proceeded to load Linux with Loadlin. Problems on bootup included: lack of
>msdos filesystem in the kernel. Sooooo, I couldnt mount my windows
>partitions to copy off the real kernel to my loadlin directory. Oh, did I
>mention that trying to use floppies in with my computer causes a lock up?
>But only in Linux.....
Ok, It's been a while since I've looked at Red Hat but it used to come with
the ability to create a rescue floppy. With my dist. (Debian) I just put
the rescue image (basically just an install disk) and at the first prompt I
type "rescue root=/dev/hda2" to boot if I make a bad kernel or mess up lilo.
I think you can do something similar under Red Hat.
<SNIP>
>5) And while I'm here...I may as well tell you about this, as it's quite
>interesting, if quite tragic. I have the evaluation copy of McAfee antivirus
>installed on my machine, with the annnoying nag thing that crops up when you
>reboot.
This may well be part of your problem.
Now, because of this nagging, I decided to uninstall the program
>(and also because I didnt intend to buy it, natch. Piracy is theft kids!)
>Anyway, now that the offending lines have been removed from my autoexec.bat,
>I tried to reload linux with loadlin....Guess what? No way Jose. It seems
>that the pressence of the McAfee "Scan.exe" program in my autoexec is
>required before my system can boot linux. If anyone has ANY idea why this
>might be, I would be genuinely grateful.....
Well... If McAfee installed itself in your MBR and you also installed LILO
in your MBR and if neither knows anything about the other...... If I
remember right, McAfee won't let your system boot unless Scan.exe has been
run as a method of protecting your system so it seems that McAfee isn't
really completely uninstalled. My guess is that McAfee installed itself in
your MBR and LILO munged that just enough that the McAfee uninstaller
couldn't do it's thing. I'm not sure about the best way to procede but I
think you had better start by making a complete backup of anything you don't
want to loose. You might be able to re-install McAfee and then Uninstall
it. Next you might then be able to run fdisk /mbr under Dos and then
re-install LILO. This last bit is just a guess so be sure to give it some
thought rather than just jumping in and MAKE THAT BACKUP.
--
Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Okay, just to recap....what have we got? can't boot from LILO, can't boot
>from floppy (as this uses LILO), in fact, can't boot at all without Mr
>McAfee's help. Also, can't boot with kernel, cant use kernel that works for
>anything useful, cant recompile new kernel. Deep psychological scars that
>mean I'm putting my therapist on danger money!
>
>It sounds like a complete write off to me. Please, try to help me. And
>please, dont reply to this message saying "I have no such problems,
>everything works for me!" This is the Linux equivalent of approaching a
>blind man and saying "So, you can't use your eyes? Strange, mine work fine."
>
>(coming next week: Dave tries to configure modem, soundcard, joystick,
>mouse....)
>
>Thanks folks.
>
>--
>Dave
>
>ICQ: 20806179
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Holden)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 4 May 1999 12:24:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 4 May 1999 10:52:48 GMT, Donal K. Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Sam Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [^X]*
>>
>> Since Y is matches by [^X] anyway and you since there can be 0 Ys there's
>> no need to specify it...
>>
>> Probably should be [^X]+ unless you can have none... ;)
>
>Hmph. Why not go straight for [^X]{2} and be done with it? (OK, so
>it's not a simple RE, but it is simpler in practise!)
What about those lucky people who have three...
--
Sam
I explicitly give people the freedom not to use Perl, just as God gives
people the freedom to go to the devil if they so choose.
--Larry Wall
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From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.llinux.x,alt.comp.linux.xxx
Subject: GNOME Question: tcp_ioctl: revised:
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 12:20:38 +0000
As to my previous message, I just found out what was causing the
problem.
I'm using Enlightenment as my WM and it seems the Esound daemon is
putting all my gnome binaries to sleep by having them wait on
tcp_ioctl. If anyone knows why, let me know. I'm running esound-0.2.8,
and enlightenment 0.15.5
Ben
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From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.comp.linux.xxx
Subject: GNOME Question: tcp_ioctl
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:35:35 +0000
Recently, I had a problem running all my gnome binaries.
They kept sleeping on the system function tcp_ioctl right after they
were called, and thus they would sleep forever. Well, for some reason,
it doesn't do that anymore, but I would still like to know why it
happened in the first place? I have a few guesses, but if anyone has a
definite answer, I would appreciate it.
note: I was running my Xserver on same computer as my terminal ( 1
computer network).
Ben
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 12:28:14 GMT
John E. Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 30 Apr 1999 08:20:04 GMT, Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>So the "bce" problem is a slang problem then?
> Slang does not support terminals that do not use the currently
> selected background color for erasing. In my opinion, such terminals
> are brain-dead and there is really no way of properly optimizing the
that's only half of the terminals out there. (I'm sure their developers
have their own opinions about this matter).
> screen redrawing on these terminals. This is because on such
> terminals, any operation that causes text to be erased on the screen
> (such as scrolling, erasing to the end of the line, etc) will result
> in the wrong color being displayed. This means that the underlying
not "wrong" - just wrong when used with slang. point the blame in the
right direction ('screen' does a reasonable job).
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 4 May 1999 12:40:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sam Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about those lucky people who have three...
Grrr! ^[^X]+$ (Sulking now...)
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
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