Linux-Misc Digest #61, Volume #19 Tue, 16 Feb 99 20:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix ("Richard Latimer")
Re: Compile error on Linux RedHat 5.2 - na undeclared (Helmut Lichtenberg)
Re: Init and UPS / SIGPWR (Gerd Roethig)
Making uninstall file lists ("Richard Latimer")
Re: How to use Iomega Ditto (David Walsh)
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (O/Siris)
Simple Samba question. . . I hope ("Thom V")
Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux?? (Mike Dowling)
Re: HElp, i can't compile (Ray)
Re: Why Does Linux Thrash So Bad? - disk space (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Re: shell scripting and C++ ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Sending request to remote WWW server ("David Z. Maze")
Re: How to use Iomega Ditto ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows Refund Day (Tony Hoyle)
Re: Please help! (Geoff Allsup)
Re: Eat the Cache ("Lenny")
Re: WindowMaker and KDE (was Re: KDE is a Memory Hog.) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: big endian -> little endian converter (Thomas Boggs)
Re: Source versus RPMs (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (John S. Dyson)
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From: "Richard Latimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:18:54 -0800
Will someone actually running a copy of IE 4.0 for HP or
Solaris please describe your experience with the product.
What does it look like? Is it slow, big, bulky? Do you have any
trouble viewing certain pages? Does it play streaming audio/
video? Can you use it for secure online banking?
How is Express? Does it have the same features as the Win98
version? Is it threaded? Can you download all messages in one
newsgroup while making a selection of messages to download
from headers in another newsgroup?
Can you download mulitpart MIME encoded content, combine
and decode the messages, then view the result within Express?
Does it do inline image display? Can it play audio clips embedded
in messages? Can you write messages formatted in html?
How does it compare with Netscape's version for Linux?
richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Helmut Lichtenberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.tk
Subject: Re: Compile error on Linux RedHat 5.2 - na undeclared
Date: 16 Feb 99 06:43:13 GMT
WF, Yee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello all,
: I was trying to compile Tk800.012 on Linux RedHat 5.2 running Perl
: 5.004_04 on a Pentium machine and I keep getting the following error.
: Xlib.xs: In function `XS_DisplayPtr_XLoadFont':
: Xlib.xs:428: `na' undeclared (first use this function)
: Xlib.xs:428: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
: Xlib.xs:428: for each function it appears in.)
: Xlib.xs: In function `XS_DisplayPtr_XListFonts':
: Xlib.xs:454: `na' undeclared (first use this function)
: Xlib.c: In function `XS_GC_new':
: Xlib.c:841: `na' undeclared (first use this function)
: Xlib.c: In function `boot_Tk__Xlib':
: Xlib.c:915: `na' undeclared (first use this function)
: make[1]: *** [Xlib.o] Error 1
: make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/work/Tk800.012/Xlib'
: make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
: I changed the tkGlue.def as suggested by another poster as followed but
: I still keep getting the error. Any suggestions?.
: Thanks in advance.
[...]
Hi,
this is a post I found in the news some time ago.
Good luck
Helmut
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# strip everything before this and feed to /bin/sh
#
#
patch -p1 -N <<'__END_OF_PATCH__'
Index: tkGlue.def
--- Tk800.012/tkGlue.def Fri Oct 16 18:55:23 1998
+++ Tk8/tkGlue.def Mon Nov 16 21:38:19 1998
@@ -4,11 +4,16 @@
#define XSdec(x) void x()
#endif
+#ifndef PATCHLEVEL
+#include <patchlevel.h>
+#endif
+
#if defined(PATCHLEVEL) && (PATCHLEVEL < 5)
#define PL_sv_undef sv_undef
#define PL_tainting tainting
#define PL_tainted tainted
#define PL_stack_base stack_base
+#define PL_stack_sp stack_sp
#define PL_curcop curcop
#endif
@@ -28,7 +33,9 @@
#endif
#ifdef na
-#undef na
+#if PATCHLEVEL >= 5
+#undef na
+#endif
#endif
__END_OF_PATCH__
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Institut f. Tierzucht und Tierverhalten - 31535 Neustadt - Germany
Tel. +49 (0)5034/871-128 Fax +49 (0)5034/92579
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerd Roethig)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Init and UPS / SIGPWR
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:36:41 GMT
Hello,
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:56:46 -0500 Montressor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[upsd doesn't send SIGPWR to Init or sends it without effect]
>Well, is the daemon running with root privileges? Because it needs to be
>the owner of the process init, which is owned by UID 0 (root).... The
>daemon probably runs under the daemon uid, 2, and might not be able to
>kill the process. That's the best I can do. Someone tell me if I am a
>flaming idiot.
Is the daemon also running under UID 2 when I start it manually as
root from the console? If yes, one should probably try to set the SUID
bit to the daemon, or am I terribly wrong here?
Best regards and thanks to Montressor for his hint
Gerd
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From: "Richard Latimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Making uninstall file lists
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:57:18 -0800
It would be useful to have a list of files created during a "make
install" under Linux. Two lines lines added to a make file should
do it. One to create a file:
SuperDuper-2.5.69-pre32a.install.filelist
and another line to append a filename, with full path, to the filelist
file.
As most make files look fairly standardized, and the whole
automake/autoconfig apparatus seems to be maintained by
one group of people, it would seem fairly simple to have them
add this functionality to a standard Linux programming project.
Should we lobby for such a feature? Would anyone other than
myself find this useful?
richard
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From: David Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to use Iomega Ditto
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:15:05 +1000
Read the ZIP-HOWTO
Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have to set up some backup solution. Urgently. The only piece of
> hardware in my possession that looks remotely usable for this task
> is an old Iomega Ditto Max. Now the question:
> How do I go about compiling support for it into the kernel?
> I heard that I need SCSI support. Then I also heard about compiling
> a ppa module. Which option (say, in 'make menuconfig') enables that?
> I have Slackware 3.6 with a 2.0.36 kernel. Seems it comes with ftape-2.08.
> Should I download a 4.x ftape? Can I unpack that into the Linux source tree
> or should I keep it separately? Can someone please tell me how to configure
> it?
> I'm really at a loss. I spent lots of time setting this Linux box up
>
> and I don't dare to play around with it too much before backing it up.
> Could some nice soul please help me out?
>
> TIA,
> Juergen
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From: rjv�rg�s@m�gs�n�t.n�t (O/Siris)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:32:50 -0600
In article <7a96ad$d4o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, genixia@my-
dejanews.com says...
> This is (alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc) NOT
> alt.lets.argue.about.whether.Bill.should.go.
>
>
Sorry. Forgot to pay attention. I saw this in the
advocacy newsgroup, and didn't think the topic all THAT
far out of bounds. Didn't see the other groups.
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servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go
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arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and
posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.�� --Samuel
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O/Siris
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From: "Thom V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Simple Samba question. . . I hope
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:19:40 GMT
Hello all,
I've got Red Hat 5.2 setup with Samba on a network with Windows 98. The RH
installation is the basic workstation installation with Samba and a few
other things added in after the install. Currently, both machines can ping
each other and I can telnet from the Win98 machine to the RH Linux machine
without any problems. I've even got the basics of Samba working. SMBclient
runs from the linux box fine. I can create directories and everything on
the Win98 machine.
The problem is going the reverse direction. When I double click on the
linux box in Network Neighborhood to access shared directories from Win98 I
get the following message...
Enter Network Password
You must supply a network password to make this connection:
Resource: \\LinuxBox\IPC$
Password:
Doesn't "IPC" stand for something like "Inter Process Communication"? Why
do I need a password for this? Is there a step that I've skipped? What is
the simplest way to resolve this and still keep some degree of security?
Thanks,
Thom Vandenberg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Dowling)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Matrox G200 PCI support Linux??
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:26:57 GMT
On 15 Feb 1999 10:22:48 -0700, Tom Trebisky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Mike Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:52:42 +1100, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I'm running XFree 3.3.3-1 and I have a strange problem: ....
>>
>>..... When I upgraded to 3331, most of the
>>X11 binaries produced segmentation faults. The fix was to re-compile them,
>>but netscape is well and truly dead. I did not have this problem at home
>>where I use the XS3 chip. My two Linux boxes are otherwise identical, so
>>put it down to problems with the G200 support.
>
>Well, I have a G200 AGP card, I installed RH 5.2, then got the XFree 3.3.3
>rpm's (just maybe the 3.3.3-1), and dumped them in (took 2 passes for some
>reason), and I am running perfectly.
333 ran almost perfectly for me too. I only had a very rare problem that
caused the X server to consume all the CPU it could get. On a computer
running 24 hrs/day, this would happen perhaps once a week, and I really
cannot be certain that XFree was to blame.
The segmentation faults only started with 3.3.3.1. They had definitely
modified XF86_SVGA, as previously, every time I changed to text mode, I
would get a message on the console that started X; now I don't.
Cheers,
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HElp, i can't compile
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:38:15 GMT
>Jarvis wrote:
>
>> I am using slackware 3.0 and i can't seem to compile with cc or gcc
>> i get the following error with a simple c program
>>
>> test.c: In function `main':
>> test.c:4: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'
In main(), you are using a "return x;" command.. this error
simply states that the x is not of type int. You can do one of 2
things:
change x to int wherever x is declared:
e.g. int x;
or typecast x to int, in the return statement:
e.g. return (int)x;
Ray Akey - CEO/ZenMetal Software - Programmers of:
CNet Amiga Professional IAS (Previously known as CNet Amiga BBS)
Internet/Intranet/LAN server and custom applications.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Subject: Re: Why Does Linux Thrash So Bad? - disk space
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:38:40 GMT
Aaron M. Renn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> shaped electrons to say:
>I've got a 300 MHz Pentium II with 128 MB of RAM and 512 MB of swap. But
>Linux goes into thrash mode all the time on me. If I've got X, two xterms,
>and two netscape instances up, it sometimes starts thrashing and never
>recovers. This is clearly ridiculous, espically since my netscape
>configuration allows only 20MB of memory cache. I've even had X crash with
>out of memory errors. My disk space is getting low on my normal
>filesystems, which seems to be associate with the problem for some reason.
>Any ideas? I'm running 2.0.36 BTW. Please respond via email. I'll
>summarize replies if warranted.
If the disk space is getting low, look around for files named "core" and
remove them. They are memory dumps of dying processes, and can show up in
really odd places. Try:
find / -name core -exec rm {} \; -print
to remove them and see where they were. This could take several minutes if
the file system has lots of files.
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: shell scripting and C++
Date: 16 Feb 1999 10:21:07 -0500
This isn't a Linux install question, nor is it an X or a Red Hat
question. Followups pointed to comp.os.linux.misc.
jack wallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JW> i have a question. is it possible to create a script, for linux,
JW> to do a job and write it in C++.
Huh? If you found something that interpreted C++, I suppose you
could...
JW> let's say i wanted to write a C++ script to allow me to iniate my
JW> modem. is it possible to make the two 'types' of code talk to
JW> each other? is there a current standard for such a condition?
You could write a C++ *program* that either exec()s some program to
open a modem connection or that uses /dev/ttyS? and dials the modem
itself. You'd then compile and run this program as a binary.
I'm not clear as to what you mean by having code talk to each other.
Given an executable (possibly a C++ binary, but also possibly a shell
script or a Perl script or...) you can run it from a shell script just
like any other command. You can send things to its standard input,
and read from its standard output, given the correct shell magic.
JW> or is shell scripting (and communicating with shell scripts)
JW> limited to it's own language?
To run a script, you need an interpreter for the scripting language.
To my knowledge, nobody has written an interpreter for C++; in my
opinion, that language is particularly poorly suited to be a scripting
language. If you're looking for a scripting language with more C-like
syntax, you might look at Perl. But I'm not sure what you're trying
to do at all.
--
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"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Sending request to remote WWW server
Date: 16 Feb 1999 10:34:26 -0500
Matt Perdeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MP> How do I receive a page from a WWW server using a C program? I
MP> need to write a C program (under Linux) that send a request to a
MP> remote WWW server for an .html or .cgi page and then receives that
MP> page. As far as the remote server is concerned, my program would
MP> look like a WWW browser.
Open a socket to TCP port 80 on the remote machine. Send an HTTP
request. Read the HTTP response. Documentation to look at includes:
socket(2), connect(2), read(2), write(2). Also the HTTP spec, at
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/.
--
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"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to use Iomega Ditto
Date: 16 Feb 1999 10:50:36 -0500
Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JF> I have to set up some backup solution. Urgently. The only piece of
JF> hardware in my possession that looks remotely usable for this task
JF> is an old Iomega Ditto Max.
My advice if you need reliable backups is to ditch it and get
something else that actually works.
JF> How do I go about compiling support for it into the kernel?
You don't.
JF> I heard that I need SCSI support.
You don't.
JF> Then I also heard about compiling a ppa module.
You need this if you have an external (e.g. parallel port) drive. If
you have an internal drive (probably connects to a Ditto Dash card),
you don't.
JF> I have Slackware 3.6 with a 2.0.36 kernel. Seems it comes with
JF> ftape-2.08.
If comes with ftape-3.04d, IIRC.
JF> Should I download a 4.x ftape?
Yes. See http://www-math.math.rwth-aachen.de/~LBFM/claus/ftape/.
JF> Can I unpack that into the Linux source tree or should I keep it
JF> separately?
You should keep it separate. It only builds as an external module
currently.
JF> Can someone please tell me how to configure it?
The README file does an adequate job.
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"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 16 Feb 1999 13:24:20 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Gerd Roethig
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
:>I wasn't obsessing about anything. I was just pointing out that someone got
:>the years wrong for colossus. i.e. NOT 1941.
: And what has this to do with Linux?
: Just wondering
Nothing. All this part of the thread started when some moron stated that all
computer technology was invented in the bad ol' US of A.
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From: Tony Hoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,uk.comp.os.win95
Subject: Re: Windows Refund Day
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:46:49 +0000
Anonymous Coward wrote:
huh? Please keep the AC rubbish on Slashdot.
> As you may or may not know. Yesterday (Monday) was Windows refund day.
> There's a clause in the Microsoft Licence (EULA) that say's if you
>
Microsoft's refusal to honour their license agreement is interesting, as
it possibly
makes it invalid (from which you can take either two extremes - either
Windows is now
a free-for-all as the 'must be used on a single machine' bits are
invalid also, or
Windows isn't allowed to be used by *anybody* because nobody has a valid
license
for it...)
I doubt it'll make any difference though. They are Microsoft... laws
don't apply to people
with several billion to spend on Laywers...
Tony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Please help!
Date: 16 Feb 1999 13:21:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:52:01 -0500, jack wallen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i've posted a couple of times without success. i'm having difficulty
>with my modem locking up on me. it usually happens during a disconnect.
>i'll run my disconnect script and the modem just locks up. so far the
>only solution i have found is powering down the computer. i always
>thought that one of the beauties of linux was that you could avoid that.
>
I had something similar at one point with some generic internal modem.
The problem was evidently in the modem defaults, and was cured by a
couple of AT commands on startup after modem reset. I've forgotten
exactly what it was (you need to look in your AT commands reference
which should have come with your modem) but it was something like the
following modem initialization string:
ATZ
ATX4&C1&D2
I think it's the &C1 or &D2 that's the important one...?
Anyway, give it a try and good luck,
geoff
******************************************************************
Geoff Allsup Upper Ocean Processes Group
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA
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From: "Lenny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Eat the Cache
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:34:55 -0600
what is this wine? any more info, and i want to know if it will run
FrontPage 98.
loren
Gina wrote in message ...
>Anyone have a cache module for apache? How does this work?
>
>
>Email preferred,
> Reply to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your comments
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WindowMaker and KDE (was Re: KDE is a Memory Hog.)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:27:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i've seen reference to this many times, that you can use windowmaker
> instead of kwm. does this provide a perceivable performance enhancement?
> and is there any documentation anywhere on how to replace kwm with
> windowmaker. i've checked both the kde and windowmaker pages often, but
> have yet to see anything other than it's possible.
A brief dejanews search leads me to this older post of mine:
http://x11.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=441362411
================
In article <79fv4v$c7i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"David Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could you please explain the steps to replace the KDE window manager with
> Window Maker? The KDE install renamed the .xinitrc and .xsession config
> files which start Window Maker, and put in a new .Xclients which just starts
> the KDE. Where do we tell it what window manager to use? Is it the .wmrc?
I suppose the .Xclients you have now calls startkde?
If yes, then, make a copy of startkde somewhere, called startkdewm.
Edit it and replace "kwm" with "wmaker" or however windowmaker's binary
is called.
Then edit your .Xclients and replce startkde with startkdewm.
That's all.
================
To that I may add that depending on how you installed and configured KDE,
and how you start X, you may need to edit ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession
instead of .Xclients.
> i'm assuming use of windowmaker does not prevent the use of the kpanel,
> which i really like.
That is correct, if you use window maker 0.50 or later, with KDE support
compiled in.
> thanks in advance
>
> --mk
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > When you download windowmaker you get a window manager, no wonder the
package
> > is smaller!
> >
> > Then, maybe windowmaker is faster than kwm (just a tiny piece of KDE).
> > But latest windowmaker works as a drop-in kwm replacement, so, how
> > is KDE slower, if you can use windowmaker as part of it?
> >
> > Your comparison doesn't make a lot of sense.
> >
> > --
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> >
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From: Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cern.linux
Subject: Re: big endian -> little endian converter
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:23:52 -0500
Rob Komar wrote:
> Thomas Boggs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : "David R. Conrad" wrote:
> :
> : > Thomas Boggs wrote:
> : > >Speaking of floating points, does anyone know of any libraries to convert
> : > >floating point values between different platforms? I've gotten some VAX binary
> : > >files containing floats in the past and had to do my own byte swapping and bit
> : > >fiddling to use the data on an Intel machine. It would be nice not to have to
> : > >go through that process for each platform.
> : >
> : > Sure:
> : >
> : > printf("%f", double_var);
> : >
> : > scanf("%f", &double_var);
> : >
> :
> : Huh? How is scanf going to know that the binary value it is reading is from a
> : different architecture which is byte swapped and has a different number of bits for
> : the number's exponent and mantissa?
>
> because it's reading a text string, not the binary form of the number.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob Komar
Right. So it doesn't solve the problem of reading float values from a BINARY file,
especially when the file uses a different floating point representation.
-thomas
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Source versus RPMs
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:29:50 -0500
"Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My question then is, has anyone found a preference for using either
> source code and compiling it yourself OR using the RPMs, at least when
> it comes to items such as GTK+, GIMP, KDE, and other useful programs.
> I'd like to always be able to try out the latest version and don't
> always want to wait. But, I also don't want to leave RPMs behind. Has
> anyone found a good way to use both, at least for these programs?
i always use both. often, you can take the most recent rpm you can find,
install the src.rpm file, modify the spec file to use the new versions, and
rebuild your own binary rpm of the new version. there's an excellent
manual for creating your own rpm's at http://www.rpm.org/
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.1 i586 | at public servers
Anybody want a binary telemetry frame editor written in Perl?
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 21:50:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 16 Feb 1999, John S. Dyson wrote:
>
>> Free Solaris is free in the sense of $$$, but not source, use
>> and redistribution. FreeBSD is free in the sense of freedom of
>> source, use, redistribution. Linux is free in the sense of
>> source and general use.
>
> Linux is also free for redistribution. In fact it is possibly THE major
> point of the GPL license.
>
Linux is not fully free in the sense of redistribution, because derived
works are encumbered. Also, source only has to be distributed in addition
to binaries, so it doesn't really help the dissemination of the code.
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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