Linux-Misc Digest #60, Volume #19 Tue, 16 Feb 99 02:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: RE Linux Suxx - Sorry (Richard Steiner)
Re: Lotus 1-2-3 file (Jim Richardson)
Re: From RedHat to Slackware (Arthur Corliss)
Sony CDU-33a ("Grant & Naomi Johnston")
FRUSTRATED, PLEASE HELP ("Hugh")
http downloading (YoungSu Kim)
Re: Linux suxxxx (Stephe)
Re: How to make it run faster? ("TURBO1010")
Process trimming logs on Sunday (Danny Aldham)
getting inode information (Marx Rajangam)
Re: How to make it run faster? (Dan Nguyen)
Image Viewer Applications ("Steve D. Perkins")
shell scripting and C++ (jack wallen)
Please help! (jack wallen)
Re: LILO exceeding 1024 cylinders... (Leon Garde)
Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix (Andy Johnson)
Sending request to remote WWW server ("Matt Perdeck")
How to use Iomega Ditto (Juergen Fiedler)
EFS with Emacs (Nick Papadonis)
Kernel 2.2.1 question (andrewl)
Re: good UPS? (adam)
PCMCIA modem detected as anonymous memory!? ("netQ")
Re: Dynamically linked libraries, aren't. (Tom Fawcett)
Re: Linux Surfing (Richard Steiner)
SMC Ethernet cards (Myke Morgan)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: RE Linux Suxx - Sorry
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:00:34 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "softalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>The problems I experienced where not with the Linux install itself but
>with the lack of consistent documentation regarding utils.
Keep in mind how Linux (and its accompanying documentation) comes into
being. It's a relatively decentralized volunteer effort.
Not defending its weaknesses, just saying that they are probably to be
expected at this point.
>The end result.. I must admit I have decided to play with Linux for a
>while longer. After all I don't look on it anymore as an operating
>system but a free text based adventure game (just like the old days),
Heh. I think the hook has been set. :-) :-)
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Lotus 1-2-3 file
Date: 16 Feb 1999 03:17:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:12:22 GMT,
Micha� Kuratczyk, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Is there any way to view Lotus 1-2-3 (.wk4) file under Linux?
>
>--
>Micha� Kuratczyk
>
Xesslite from Applied Information Services will import wks, wk1, wk3 and
xls formats, i don't know about wk4.
Thy're at
www.ais.com
and the product is okay, available as a shareware or full product. It's a tad
buggy in spots, but ok for bringing in excel forms.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Corliss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: From RedHat to Slackware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Feb 1999 19:02:32 -0900
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:51:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:46:48 +0000, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Paul Kallstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmmm... I dumped slackware for RH. The security issues were too great. It's
>>> nuthin' to fight about, tho, cuz it's not the flavor that counts, but the
>>> nutritional value <G>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>what 'security issues' are a problem in slackware that aren't also in
>>redhat? please point out some examples for those of us who want to know.
>
>um...telnet allows root to login
>this is configurable though
Please, is this the best you can come up with? And su'ing from a telnet
connection with plain text traffic is better how? Both of them suck, anything
done in super user mode should be done over ssh2, at the very least.
Regardless, Slack is many times more secure than RH. RH has a habit of
including many more suid root apps than anyone else. Let's count the number
of RH CERT alerts compared to strictly Slack, shall we?
--Arthur Corliss
Bolverk's Lair -- http://www.odinicfoundation.org/arthur/
"Live Free or Die, the Only Way to Live" -- NH State Motto
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From: "Grant & Naomi Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sony CDU-33a
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:35:12 -0800
Does anyone have any ideas why I cannot get either Red Hat 5.1 or FreeBSD
2.2.6 to detect my CD-ROM drive during setup? I have created boot-disks for
both and when selecting CD-ROM as the install medium, the CD-ROM cannot be
found.
This is a supported device. The only thing I can think that would present a
problem is that the drive is plugged into my Soundblaster soundcard. I would
plug it in as a secondary IDE had it not been for the fact that the drive is
34 pin.
Any answers?
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From: "Hugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FRUSTRATED, PLEASE HELP
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:50:54 -0600
First let me tell you what I have: Redhat 5.2 installed on a partition of my
6.4gb IBM drive with a K6 233, Maxtech 33.6 modem, Diamond Stealth II video,
and sound blaster card. I have downloaded the rpms necessary for X-windows
to function with my video card. I have configured my sound card to work. But
I still haven't been able to dial my ISP while in Linux. I am new to Linux
and Unix in general. If you reply to me, please don't assume any knowledge
on my part. I have received some replies, and I sincerely appreciate them,
but some have been entirely over my head.
Question 1. : Why does "GPM Mouse services" hang when I shutdown
(shutdown -h -t secs now)?
Question 2. : Where can I get some definitive help on connecting to my ISP?
My modem works: it initializes and I can dial my ISP in minicom. It connects
and then disconnects without doing anything. No login prompt, no jibberish.
It just diconnects after about 5 secs. Now I don't want to use minicom to
connect to my ISP. I was just trying to verify that my modem was working in
Linux. I want to be able to use pppd and a chat script. I've read this and
that and everything says this file (etc/ppp/options, ..., and others) should
have some certain strings. Please enlighten me on which files require
altering in order to connect and what modification need to be done.
Thanks,
Hugh Brian
http://freeweb.pdq.net/huey1/OurHomePage.htm
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From: YoungSu Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: http downloading
Date: 16 Feb 1999 04:46:42 GMT
hi
I can't download large file via http because my browser suspend downloading
suddenly.
I'm using netscape 4.5 and lynx 2.8rel.2 as my web browser.
And I'm using 2.0.36 kernel with slackware 3.6.
Any help would be very appreciated.
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From: Stephe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:14:07 -0500
softalk wrote:
>
> Let me tell you I give up. After 3 solid weeks trying to set up a linux
> system I finally submit to the fact that me and Linux do not get on. I have
> been installing novell & Win networks as a job for 9 years but wow what a
> shock I got from Linux. It's like trying to learn to program in C with no
> manual or source code to compare. Even a simple job like installing a new
> program is sometimes impossible. So goodbye Linux and goodbye smug Linux
> users.
I feel sorry for the people who depend on you to keep their
network up!! I'm a CAR MECHANIC and I'm having no problems to
speak of. Maybe it isn't Linux that S%&$#? And YOUR a
professional?
--
Stephe
Having fun with Linux!
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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:58:16 -0800
How fast are your processors? Mine are regular socket 7 MMXXx Processors,
233's. You have PII's?]
Ilya wrote in message <36c5423c.0@calwebnnrp>...
>In comp.os.linux.misc TURBO1010 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 256M of ram, and 2 processors, and it's still slow as hell. Win98 will
>> smoke linux, and that that it runs on 1 processor.
>
>I got two processors with 128MB and it runs very fast. Does not use swap at
>all, even during compilation.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Process trimming logs on Sunday
Date: 16 Feb 1999 05:19:48 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
I have a redhat 5.2 box that seems to have some housekeeping that runs
on Sunday morning at 4am. It rolls over /var/log/messages , cron ,
maillog, uucp, etc. My problem is , I cannot find where it is running
out of. My crontab entries show nothing, at nothing. Any pointers
appreciated. I would like to run some of these every night.
Danny Aldham
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From: Marx Rajangam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getting inode information
Date: 16 Feb 1999 05:10:07 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to get the inode number given a file name. I need to
implement a system call the finds it.
I looked into the system calls like open, stat and they are using a
kernel function namei() for getting the inode for a given file name.
I wrote a system call that looks like,
asmlinkage unsigned long assoc(void)
{
struct inode *in;
unsigned long i;
int j;
j = namei("/root/junk", &in);
if (j >= 0){
i = in->i_ino;
return i;
}
else{
return -1000;
}
}
I dont know why my system call is not working when I almost
replicated the code from functions like stat and open.. Is there any
special condition that I need to take care of?
I would greatly appreciate any help that you can do..
Thanks a lot for your time and effort.
--
Marx Rajangam
Fisher 227, CS Dept,
Michigan Tech. Univ.
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to make it run faster?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 05:39:09 GMT
In alt.os.linux TURBO1010 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: 256M of ram, and 2 processors, and it's still slow as hell. Win98 will
: smoke linux, and that that it runs on 1 processor.
You have to realize that Windoze load program faster, but benchmarks
are slower. The only reason Windoze load programs faster is that it
loads a segment of that program into memory before you decided you
wanted to use it (ie MSWord).
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Image Viewer Applications
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 05:44:50 +0000
Kind of a silly question, I know... but does anyone know of a Linux
image viewer application that is similar to ACDSee for Windows95, able
to run slideshows and change images using the arrow keys instead of
clicking on the filename with the mouse?
Steve
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From: jack wallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: shell scripting and C++
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:56:24 -0500
i have a question. is it possible to create a script, for linux, to do
a job and write it in C++. i am currently studying this language and
was wondering what the compatability was between the two.
let's say i wanted to write a C++ script to allow me to iniate my modem.
is it possible to make the two 'types' of code talk to each other? is
there a current standard for such a condition?
or is shell scripting (and communicating with shell scripts) limited to
it's own language?
thank you
--
jack wallen,jr ICQ:20503940 \||/ LINUX -anything else...404!
00
-against the run of the mill > -life in two dimensions
swimming against the stream - is a mass production scheme
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From: jack wallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Please help!
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:52:01 -0500
i've posted a couple of times without success. i'm having difficulty
with my modem locking up on me. it usually happens during a disconnect.
i'll run my disconnect script and the modem just locks up. so far the
only solution i have found is powering down the computer. i always
thought that one of the beauties of linux was that you could avoid that.
i'm running red hat 5.2 with afterstep 1.6.6.
thanks for any help.
--
jack wallen,jr ICQ:20503940 \||/ LINUX -anything else...404!
00
-against the run of the mill > -life in two dimensions
swimming against the stream - is a mass production scheme
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leon Garde)
Subject: Re: LILO exceeding 1024 cylinders...
Date: 16 Feb 1999 13:22:09 -0800
Villy Kruse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <7a5o2u$146$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >Of course if somebody takes the time to look through the LILO source code
: >and finds that it does in fact use the BIOS (INT 13h), then I'm wrong. :-)
: It does. That makes it possible for the same lilo loader to load from SCSI
: disks using the bios code on the scsi adapter.
yeah
and the 1024 limit is the number of bios cylinders
not hardware level cylinders.
roughly thats 500 meg without LBA/LARGE (or other translation)
and 8 gig with translation....
(LBA is translation from bios addressing to LBA addressing...
the bios geometry is manufactured .. obviously to cover as much
as of the disk as possible )
leon
: Villy
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:42:41 -0500
From: Andy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix
> ACE Alex wrote:
>
> [snap]
>
> :Im a web developer and sadly I have to say that IE4 is far better with java
> :script and Css. Netscape claims they have full suport for it but i dont
> :agree with that!
> :
> :So yes,, as long as netscape cant show every page on the net i would say
> :that there would be nice to have ie 4!
I've heard this reason for having IE on Linux/other *nix before. Frankly, I
think it's stupid. I am a web developer, too, and what I've noticed (and
apparently too few others haven't) is that *no web browser works the same when
ported to a new platform.* Netscape on Windows and Netscape on Linux can look
completely different, especially if you use the default font settings. Porting
IE to Linux is only going to make things *worse*, because Linux IE isn't going
to look exactly like Windows IE, neither of which will look/act like MacOS IE.
In the end, you'll end up having to have both browsers set up on yet another
platform to test on.
Now, having said all this, Mozilla, with the new XPFE might help fix some of
this nonsense. Maybe.
And, as far as this Alex guy saying Netscape doesn't support full JavaScript,
that's bull. Netscape _invented_ JavaScript, and even though they turned the
specs over to the ECMA for maintenance, Netscape _continues_ to set the standard
in JavaScript support. IE's JScript is exactly what it sounds like: a cheap
knock-off.
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From: "Matt Perdeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Sending request to remote WWW server
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:08:05 -0800
How do I receive a page from a WWW server using a C program?
I need to write a C program (under Linux) that send a request to a remote
WWW server for an .html or .cgi page and then receives that page. As far as
the remote server is concerned, my program would look like a WWW browser.
If you know how to send a request from a C program to a remote WWW server,
I'd be really grateful if you could tell me how, or point me in the right
direction.
Matt Perdeck
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From: Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to use Iomega Ditto
Date: 16 Feb 1999 06:07:24 GMT
Hi,
I have to set up some backup solution. Urgently. The only piece of
hardware in my possession that looks remotely usable for this task
is an old Iomega Ditto Max. Now the question:
How do I go about compiling support for it into the kernel?
I heard that I need SCSI support. Then I also heard about compiling
a ppa module. Which option (say, in 'make menuconfig') enables that?
I have Slackware 3.6 with a 2.0.36 kernel. Seems it comes with ftape-2.08.
Should I download a 4.x ftape? Can I unpack that into the Linux source tree
or should I keep it separately? Can someone please tell me how to configure
it?
I'm really at a loss. I spent lots of time setting this Linux box up
and I don't dare to play around with it too much before backing it up.
Could some nice soul please help me out?
TIA,
Juergen
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Subject: EFS with Emacs
From: Nick Papadonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Feb 1999 01:21:35 -0500
Anyone use EFS with Emacs?? Emacs-NT??
I can't seem to find a reliable source
of the lisp files for this package.
Any help appreciated.
--
Nick Papadonis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: andrewl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.2.1 question
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:12:42 +1100
Hello All,
My question is this. When building the kernel, I cannot
seem to load the SMC Etherpower Express II ( experimental ) option . It
is always greyed out.( in xconfig) . The module is in the package (
epic100.o ) but unlike previous kernels, the SMC EPIC/100 card is not an
option. Is this a shortcoming of the kernel ?
Do I need to do something that I cannot thimk of ?
Anyhelp will be appreciated.
-David
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From: adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: good UPS?
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:42:35 -0500
I have a APC BackUPS Pro 500 and it works fine for me. I get it to
signal
the servers when power goes down too. With a SmartUPS you might get more
info from the UPS, like how much juce you have left in it and more.
In the HOWTO you will find I beleve a program called apcupsd, I used
that one for a while and was very happy with it.
cheers, adam
Thomas Frese wrote:
>
> Has anybody any recommendations for a reasonably
> cheap and good UPS that works well with Linux,
> i.e. unattended shutdown, voltage correction and
> command to shut down the UPS once the machine halted?
> Also, what is the Linux software to control these UPS's?
> I was looking at APC Back-UPS Pro 650 for example....
> Any suggestions are appreciated
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom
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From: "netQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCMCIA modem detected as anonymous memory!?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:40:21 -0300
I need help to configure a Xircom Credit Card modem (CM-56T) under
Slackware 3.6 (Kernel 2.0.35). All PCMCIA services have a nice init.
but device in socket 0 (the modem in question) gets detected as an
anonymous memory device causing module memory_cs to be loaded
rather than serial_cs.
As I just bought the laptop (Toshiba Satellite 330CDS) I`m pretty f******
lost with PCMCIA services configuration.
Thanks to all the people helping in the group.
P.D: Under Win95 modem runs great (COM4,0x2e8,irq3)
>You may reply at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dynamically linked libraries, aren't.
Date: 02 Feb 1999 12:58:21 -0500
Matthew Vanecek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>[lots clipped]
> I was wondering if these programs didn't like the K6-2/3D, maybe?
> Additional symptoms, which may or may not be related, are that gcc will
> *NOT* compile on the K6. It always fails on the first compile using the
> stage 1 results, with "internal compiler errors" in stage1/cpp, and that
> any XFree86 server compiled on the K6 causes a segfault, yet the exact
> same package compiled on the 486 (or downloaded bins), works fine. Now,
> before you cry "memory" on that one, I've changed the memory chip, and
> also tried the memory in different slots, and I've also tried this all
> with *and* without the onboard cache enabled, and with different
> compiler versions (gcc 2.7.2.3 and gcc 2.8.1, and egcs 1.0.2).
> Additionally, DB2 won't run on the K6-2, although the same installation
> works fine (albeit slowly) on the 486. Another thought was if the
> BusLogic BT-932 might be causing problems? Although, CD to CD-R copies
> generate perfect results, and my kernels compile and run wonderfully,
> and XFree86 SVGA server performs nicely (unless I compile it myself :/).
Ah. You should have mentioned this. Your problems are much beyond just
recognizing dynamic libs.
I have a K6-2/3D that had problems like these, but they were fixed by
disabling the external cache and it sounds like you already tried that.
Check out the file /usr/doc/FAQ/txt/GCC-SIG11-FAQ for more ideas, though
some of its advice might be pretty dated. Also try a dejanews search on
comp.os.linux.hardware for "K6 memory", or something like that.
BTW, make sure you can get through two complete kernel compilations before
concuding it's fixed. And before that, don't install any software compiled
on the K6 even if it looks like the compilation was successful. Though
you probably already know this.
Good luck,
-Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Linux Surfing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:54:46 -0600
[Posted and e-mailed]
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Andrew Fus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>How do I navigate on the web without using any Windows based operating
>system, also, how do I hookup Linux to surf the net.
I use either Netscape or Lynx under OS/2 or Red Hat. :-)
You second question may well have different answers depending on which
distribution of Linux you are using, and on how you plan on connecting
to the internet. Please provide some useful details, and we can help.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
I'll consider Windows useful as soon as I grow a 3rd arm.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Myke Morgan)
Subject: SMC Ethernet cards
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:03:22 GMT
Hi. I am trying to get an ethernet network up and running on my two
machines. Naturally, I bought the cheapest cards at the store. They were:
SMC 'EZ Card 10/100' Fast Ethernet PCI Card and
SMC 'EZ Card 10' Ethernet ISA Card
I got the two different ones because one machine does not have PCI slots.
ANyway, I cannot seem to locate an appropriate driver for either of them.
None of the SMC drivers work (the card is never even recognized at boot
time). I looked at the www site: cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/ and could
not find anything for these cards, even though I think it said all major
cards released through 1/1999 were supported. The ISA card claims to be
NE2000 compatible, but that did not work either.
Has anyone else gotten these to work, or should I try to find different
cards?
TIA,
myke
--
Write Once, Debug Everywhere
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