Linux-Misc Digest #65, Volume #19 Wed, 17 Feb 99 01:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Data type 9 not supported!!! (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Linux has too many problems (Warrior)
Re: How do I know which window manager I am using? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Set modem speed in a script (Richard Cohen)
Re: MS Outlook, PsiWin and Linux (brian moore)
Re: Running LINUX under WIN NT????? (Bob Hauck)
Re: pthreads/linux/setstacksize (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Opinions about LyX? (Albert Ulmer)
GTK Programs will not compile... Any suggestions? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mail client for Linux (David Hallowell)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Kinkster)
Re: Duplicate ext2 hard drive for backup (Tim Moore)
Manipulation of ext2 partitions in win32??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Lexmark Printers (5700) (Phil Humpherys)
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers ("Eric Peterson")
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Data type 9 not supported!!!
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:18:49 -0800
James: had the same problem on my RH4.0 system. Grab a newer version
of rpm itself from RH4.2 or the 4.2 updates (rpm-2.5.1-0 to be precise).
That solved the problem here. But you won't be able to use RH5 rpms as
those require glibc while RH4.x is based on libc5.
Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warrior)
Subject: Re: Linux has too many problems
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:38:00 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7ad3lv$e9r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"TomX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From: "TomX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Linux has too many problems
> Organization: MCI DSE - Development
[I know, I know that it's a flame bait, but I'll play along :)]
> A software engineer's experience on RedHat 5.2:
> Extremely difficult to install. (take me one week to get installed)
What were the problems? For some reason it took me ~30mins...
> Often hang up(esp. in X Window).
Huh? I'm using RH for more than a year and it *never* hung...neither kernel, nor X.
> Less descriptive error messages.
Less descriptive than what? Maybe you consider "this program performed illegal
operation..." extremely
descriptive?
> So many problems, Linux still has a long way to go.
I bet all your problems come from not RTFM'ing before trying to do something...
> I believe all the problems I met are caused by my hardware,
What makes you think so? What hardware do you have?
> but why Linux developers can't test on more hardware list?
Probably because people don't have a lot of hardware at hand? The list of supported
hardware looks pretty
impressive to me btw...
--
Bye, Warrior.
ICQ# 24496762
Tagline for Tuesday, February 16, 1999
--- I'm no stranger, just a friend you haven't met...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How do I know which window manager I am using?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 00:11:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher B. Browne wrote:
> I've not used wm2; it seems a little overly spartan to my mind.
>
> With wmx, once you compile it, which shouldn't be too rough
I use wm2. It manages windows; that's just about it.
Judging from postings here (and there and everywhere),
compiling wm2 or wmx could be rough if you don't already
have a working C++ development system.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Cohen)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Set modem speed in a script
Date: 16 Feb 1999 10:47:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Investigate the setserial command - it will do what you want.
Cheers
Richard
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:14:28 -0000, Albert Want <al-want@#--remove--#usa.net> wrote:
>I need to write a script to connect my modem to the vodafone-sms gateway at
>the fixed speed of 2400bps.
>
>I'm thinking about write this script in expect or shell script but I don't
>know how to set a fixed modem speed.
>
>Any advice is appreciated.
>
>Please answer in mail too ! (remove #--remove--#)
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: MS Outlook, PsiWin and Linux
Date: 17 Feb 1999 05:17:39 GMT
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:17:57 +0000,
C.R.Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've been using Linux for some time now, however, there are two things
> which are stopping me moving over to Linux from WinNT permanently:
> 1. No equivalent of Outlook. The site where I work operates on Outlook
> (with an exchange server). All meetings are arranged through it so I
> would be left out in the cold if I swapped to Linux.
Well, get your network admin's permission (because it can be somewhat
naughty -- ignore this if you're the admin, since you can be naughty
:)) and snoop the ethernet for a while and see if you can decode the
protocol that Outlook/Exchange uses.
Document it well, and find other like-minded (or like-needed) Linux
users to help build a set of tools to use that data. :)
> 2. Many of us on the site use Psion organizers (mine is a series 5)
> which again using PsiWin synchronizes easily with Outlook. Also, all the
> Psion utils are supplied for Windows.
A bit trickier, since it's harder to snoop. Convince Psion that they
should learn from the success of the Palm Pilot and open up their
system to those who want to hack things. Note the piles of shareware
and Free Software for the Palm -- and the attendant sales that Palm got
compared to others.
> Does anyone know of any Linux based software that will circumvent these
> problems
Nope, though the above will help others who need the same thing you do.
You can, if you're lucky, even manage to find someone willing to code
it because he needs it as well, so your snooping will aid things even
if you can't code. :)
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Running LINUX under WIN NT?????
Date: 17 Feb 1999 05:08:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Larry Armitstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sorry to use the dreaded swear word BUT. We have some nice new BIG
> CNC machines that run on linux. Snag is, I need to back up the
> NC data to an NT server and would like to edit data on an NT
> machine.
Actually, NT and Linux can get along quite nicely. Between Samba
and smbfs, file sharing is actually pretty easy.
There are several ways to do what you want. If all you want to
do is to transfer a few files back and forth, you could just use
FTP. NT comes with a command-line FTP client you can run from a
console window and most Linux machines have an FTP server
configured by default.
Another way is to load the smbfs module on Linux (or compile a
new kernel with appropriate options) and smbmount an NT share
from the network, then use tar or zip or whatever to back up to
that. Or you could go the other way...put Samba on the Linux
side, export the proper shares, and back up over the network with
an NT backup program or xcopy or whatever.
As for editing the data, if it is text you can probably use
whatever text editor you want. The caveat is the unix vs dos
style of line terminations. Best to use an editor that preserves
this, or use unix2dos and dos2unix to convert. Or FTP in ASCII
mode. Or lots of other ways <g>.
If it is binary data, you're probably out of luck WRT editing
unless you can get proper tools for the NT side.
--
Bob Hauck, Software Engineer - Will program for food.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.programming.threads
Subject: Re: pthreads/linux/setstacksize
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:23:14 GMT
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:51:46 -0500, Dave Butenhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert Canright wrote:
>
>> I'm porting code from SunOs to Linux. The pthread.h from Sun has
>> pthread_attr_setstacksize, but the pthread.h from linux (via X. Leroy)
>> doesn't have it.
>>
>> I'm new to pthreads. What gives? I thought Posix was Posix. How can
>> one pthread.h have not have a standard pthread function
>> (setstacksize)? were there different drafts of the pthreads standard
>> and the linux version came from an earlier draft?
>
>"POSIX is POSIX", but other things aren't POSIX.
>
>As Xavier Leroy already said, POSIX allows implementation options, so
>that some POSIX functions may not be supported on all implementations of
>POSIX. You can always tell which are there by looking at the feature
>macros defined in <unistd.h>, or by calling sysconf() at runtime.
In any case, there is little need to fiddle with thread stack sizes in Linux.
LinuxThreads gives you stacks that automatically grow on demand. They have a
virtual size (on Intel) of 2 megabytes. That is, they are downward-growing
memory mappings that are spaced at two megabyte intervals, if memory serves me.
A stack starts out having a 4K page (on Intel). If more than about 4K of stuff
is pushed onto the stack, the system automatically adds another page on demand
and so forth.
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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:00:16 GMT
> >(I also don't like the xforms widget library - not only does it look
> >bad, but also the menu handling is very non-intuitive.)
> If your main problem is the widget library, try KLyX, the KDE version =
-- Qt
> is a hell of a lot nicer than Xforms.
> LyX is interesting insofar as it provides an easy way to get people=20
started
> with LaTeX. If you need to do exotic stuff, though, or use=20
non-standard macro
> packages, it's probably not such a good idea.
I love LyX! It works great and gives me perfect results!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: GTK Programs will not compile... Any suggestions?
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:50:55 GMT
when i attempt to compile anything requiring gtk/glib libraries i get the
error pasted below. i have gtk+ and glib version 1.1.15-1. the message
below mentions mot being able to find /usr/bin/gtk-config. it is there.
my system p2-450
redhat 5.2 kernel 2.2.1
anything you need to know just ask.
-matt
====== ERROR =======
*** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why... *** The test program
failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error
that occured. This usually means GLIB was incorrectly installed *** or that
you have moved GLIB since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may
want to edit the glib-config script: /usr/bin/glib-config checking for
gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.1.12... no
*** Could not run GTK test program, checking why... *** The test program
failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error
that occured. This usually means GTK was incorrectly installed *** or that
you have moved GTK since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may
want to edit the gtk-config script: /usr/bin/gtk-config checking for
thread-safe xlibs... no configure: error: You need to have thread-safe xlibs
to use x11amp.
====== /ERROR =======
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From: David Hallowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mail client for Linux
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:01:32 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your best bet is to use fetchmail to download your POP3 mail. This then
downloads you mail to your UNIX (Linux) mailbox it supports multiple
accounts and can leave messages on the server.
You can then use any mail program that can access a normal mailbox such as
pine or mail.
To use Netscape with fetchmail simply select 'Built in movemail' (instead
of POP3 or IMAP) as you mail server.
Richard Lewin wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good mail client for Linux. I would like one
> which supports multiple POP3 accounts and which allows you to leave the
> messages on the server. I am currently using kmail which does allow
> multiple POP3 accounts but the leave mail on server feature is broken.
> Each time you check for mail it downloads everything regardless of
> whether you've got it already. This feature works fine in Netscape but
> it can only support one POP3 account.
>
> I was thinking about trying to install balsa (the GNOME mail client) -
> does anyone know if it is any good and if it supports these features?
> Or are there any other good mail clients out there?
>
> I would appreciate replies by email. Thanks very much in advance.
>
> Richard Lewin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:32:12 GMT
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:28:07 -0800, "Sam Felton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Kinkster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
><surgery>
>
>>
>> Maybe we should all drive busses ?
>>
>> We have about 5% of the worlds population but consume about 40% of
>> it's energy. The CAFE standards were implemented for more than just
>> mileage , we also seem to have major problems with huge gas guzzling
>> monsters polluting the atmosphere. Take a trip to Europe or Asia and
>> you'll see they aren't infatuated with driving behemoth land yachts
>> like we seem to be here.
>
>
>This statement is highly misleading.
>
>I preface this by saying that I mean no offence to anyone who lives outside
>North America:
>
>With _very_ few exceptions, every place outside the US and Canada that I
>have been, has little or no emission control standards. Take a walkabout in
>Pu Dong in Shanghai, or Oxford Circus in London, and you'll see very quickly
>what I mean.
>
>How else can you explain the fact that, despite our consumption of resources
>here in North America (for which I make no apologies, we paid for them), we
>produce far less toxic effluent per user than other countries of equivalent
>population density?
>
>Resource use is one thing. Recycling and diminution of effluents is quite
>another.
The fly in the ointment is that the SUV's and the trucks that I've
complained about are _exempt_ from the emission standards that apply
to cars. One of those V8 trucks or SUV's can spew more emissions per
mile than probably 20 - 30 (guesstimate) cars do. Our emission
standards for cars is pretty good , for the highly popular gas
guzzling land yacht SUV's and Trucks it's not so good.
>>
>>
>> > A one size fits all airbag which has
>> >killed many people. The auto companies would have been able to put the
>> >adjustable kind in from the beginning but the government wouldn't
>> >allow it. While not an actual regulation it was government pressure
>> >that has gotten the SUVs lowered and lightened thus lessening the
>> >safety of the last really safe class of vehicles left.
>>
>> Yeah, I _LOVE_ seeing a 90 pound woman driving 5500 Lbs of Lincoln
>> Navigator all by herself down to the quick mart for a gallon of milk,
>> it makes for real economical/ecological sense. When's the last time
>> you actually saw someone have something in the back of 4000 Lbs of
>> pickup truck or 5000+ Lbs of SUV hurtling down the expressway ??
>> (Besides a Tonneau cover ??)
>>
>
>
>You'd see a lot less of this if the price of the vehicle were exhorbitant.
>If we really want to reduce private vehicle use, punch up gas and vehicle
>and licence prices, take the money, and build efficient, cheap public
>transport everywhere. Short of this you won't see any change in people's
>usage patterns. They like their cars. As do I.
The "cars" aren't the problem wrt: emmisions it's the SUV's and Trucks
with little or no emmision standards that are.
>
>When the public transport in our area stopped running efficient routes to
>where I worked, I stopped using it. Get real: the general populace will not
>put themselves out enormously just to save a few CO2 molecules. There must
>be efficient and convenient design, and proof that the individual will
>profit from the sacrifices made.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >>........ Maybe the government should get out of safety regulations for
>> >>Airlines too ??
>> >
>> >And where did I say that there should be no regulation? Could you
>> >please point that out or admit that you are just a hysterical ninny?
>>
>> You're the Chicken Little that cries about the government being in
>> everything from throttling m$ to the auto industry to handgun control.
>> Why don't you admit you're a relic from (somehow) the frontier past
>> and can't fathom this modern society we live in ?
>
>I assume, Kinkster, from reading previous posts, that you really don't give
>a flying fuck what anyone thinks of you. 'Nuff said.
I don't post on here to win popularity contests, I merely post to
express my feelings about the monopolistic bastard of a company that
you used to work for. If you don't like it don't read my posts , "Nuff
said."
>
>>
>>
>> >We need some regulation. What we don't need is this layer upon layer
>> >of nit-picking oversight that allows any agency to regulate any and
>> >every thing in the name of 'safety' or 'for the children' or whatever
>> >the buzzword at the time is.
>> >
>> >> You take the first Value Jet minus government
>> >>regulation.
>> >
>> >Again with the 'no regulation' hysteria. Its not an either or kind of
>> >deal. We can have something less than the heavy handed over reaching
>> >approach that government uses now and still be safe. Have you ever
>> >been involved in a heavily regulated industry?
>>
>> Uhhh care to try the auto industry or isn't that "heavily regulated"
>> enough for you ??
>>
>> >Until you have been you
>> >have absolutely no idea how this works.
>>
>> That's why I'm so anti-m$, I've seen first hand the sloppy, fat and
>> lazy ways of doing business when one has the market to themselves. The
>> equipment and factory buildings I was working with/in , in the mid
>> 80's dated back to the 1930's and 1940's, that sure as hell changed in
>> a hurry when the Japanese (read _competition_) damn near drove the US
>> auto industry into bankruptcy.
>
>
>That's why I am _not_ anti-M$, but am
>anti-commercial-software-industry-in-general. The shrink-wrap marketplace
>seems intent on selling glitzy, hyped-up software that is often buggy and
>overpriced . The fact that M$ can do it well and kick everyone's arse is not
>an indictment of them, it merely demonstrates that in human endeavour, where
>there exists a condition, there will (eventually) exist, somewhere, a master
>of that condition. We humans are designed (please, religion is not the topic
>here) to do this, and we adapt quite well to the task.
I tend to think (and their internal e-mail bolsters my opinion) that
m$ achieves their place in the market through thuggery and restraint
of competition. Sticking a web browser into a 90%+ share OS is hardly
"mastery of some condition" , monopolistic tactic seems to fit much
better.
>
>This is why Linux is doing as well as it is: it is an example of a group of
>people building a system for recognition of skill and quality rather than
>for economic gain. I would almost characterize it as a sport. No offence
>intended, I participate in that sport myself. In any case, Linux exists
>(partly) to demonstrate how well a system may be built if people do it with
>overall quality as a goal rather than profit-motive.
>
>M$ is not the only company out there screwing the competition. This
>anti-trust (sic) trial is going to change little if anything in the way that
>software companies do business.
It'll have a _profound_ effect on m$ , m$ (otherwise known as the
schoolyard bully) has finally run into someone that they can't just
steamroll into the dust.
>
>I still say, if you want something done right, do it yourself...
>
>>
>> Want some _true_ horror stories of the existing conditions of some of
>> the vehicles we sent to the dealers prior to some strict government
>> regulation ??
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> Maybe the government should also get out of trying to
>> >>provide for safe meat and food products too , I hope you wind up with
>> >>the first E.Coli or Listeria Burger.
>> >
>> >The childish thing would be for me to wish that you are 5' 0" and get
>> >involved in collision that deploys your airbag. However I don't wish
>> >anyone dead; not even a jerk like you.
>>
>> I didn't say (or mean to imply) I wanted you dead, a good dose of the
>> shits would do justice.
>
>
>This is where everyone seems to be going down the deep-end of the pool
>without swimming lessons.
>
>There is no reason to equate the regulation of the software industry (and,
>even more frightening, the regulation of software design and implementation)
>with the regulation of automotive manufacture or agriculture. Shitty
>commercial software never killed anyone.
>
>We should probably end that analogy before it mushrooms into an ugly
>metaphor.
Tell that to the Mayor he was the one that made the analogy.
>
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I doubt that it would
>> >>>take that long before they made a total cluster fuck of the computer
>> >>>industry.
>>
>> They broke up Standard Oil in the early 1900's without making a "total
>> cluster fsck" of the gasoline industry. They made Proctor and Gamble
>> divest themselves of Clorox Bleach, they made Ford sell off their
>> parts division and the list goes on, yet I don't see P&G or Ford or
>> any other company suffering from "Cluster Fsck" as you put it.
>>
>
>
>There are other problems with this analogy.
>
>I used to work at M$ (one of the reasons I have few illusions about them).
>
>What a lot of people either don't know or seem to be deliberately ignoring
>is the fact that M$ is _already_ like multiple companies under the same
>roof.
>
>The simile I generally use goes as follows.
>
>M$ is like a guerrilla war; lots of factions (each of whom claim fierce
>patriotism) all fighting each other over a bigger slice of the territory. If
>you were to divide them up, it would mean simply that some of the factions
>were now fighting from outside the country. I suspect that little would
>change; given the characteristics of the people involved.
>
>For the folks who haven't worked there, it is hard to imagine why, for
>example, the Exchange group is called "the most feared and loathed" group,
>or why NT (ok, Win2K now) folks are considered insufferable "build snobs",
>or why there are feuds of the most bitter sort between Internet group and
>WOSD.
You should get out _more_ , what you've described is typical for most
any large company whether they're developing commercial software or
making widgets, they all seem to suffer "turf wars" and divisional
struggles for dominance , control and power.
>
>They do a lot of things wrong. But I think it is _extremely_ risky to get
>the government involved; this trial has proven that the people writing the
>laws have very little idea what goes on in an engineering shop.
I think the government has a pretty good idea of what m$'s business
pracitices have been all about. It doesn't take a Zen master
programmer to see that IE Win9X integration was about the most
blatantly anti-competitive act imaginable.
The DOJ sure seems to be able to their courtroom presentation(s)
better than our "High Tech Hero's" from m$ who seem to be doing
nothing as of late but make themselves look like complete buffoons in
front of the judge. ;-)
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:41:05 -0800
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Duplicate ext2 hard drive for backup
> So I have a linux system and I want to make an identical copy on another
> hard drive. How do I do this?
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=1024
if the drives are identical and hda is your source and hdb is your target.
--
[Replies: little -> big]
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Manipulation of ext2 partitions in win32???
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:41:08 GMT
**is this possible? i once saw a website devouted to this cause, but
misplaced the address. can anyone help me out or point me in the direction
of something similar???
** i would like to remap my console key configuration so that the delete key
does in fact delete rather than produce ~. what file do i edit and what do
i need to do??? would i use the ascii code for delete? or if that does not
exist ascii for forward one space and backspace? os is there some other
means to change the key?? i've read a few howto's and faq's and all have
sidestepped the delete key claiming that some unix machines are w/o one.
**also when my machine first boots, right before the login prompt it waits
for 2 case returns before it continues. hardly dire, but annoying. do i need
to end rc.local formally (with specific commands?) could that be causing the
problem??
if you are willing to, please CC any responses to my email.
thanks alot
-matt
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:12:19 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: Phil Humpherys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lexmark Printers (5700)
I picked up a Lexmark 5700 printer the other day and am really hoping
someone can tell me that there is linux support for it. It'll do PCL,
won't it? I didn't see much about Lexmark printers in the ghost
script docs.
Thoughts?
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From: "Eric Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:49:06 -0600
Bitbucket wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>It's about Lying about SEX, pure and simple. Everyone who
>cheats lies about sex. It's human nature. What the GOP backed by those
>nut bags in the moral majority did was well beyond any semblance of
>human nature. It was plain evil.
Not pure and simple, actually. He lied about sex in order to deprive Paula
Jones of supporting evidence in her lawsuit. This is obstruction of justice
and grounds for a perjury charge. It's not that he lied about sex, it's WHY
he lied about sex.
Oh, and BTW, I'm Canadian so I have no political axe to grind here. I think
he should have been impeached, and should have been removed from office,
because what he did has subtly undermined the US justice system and has set
dangerous precedent. I say this in spite of the fact that I think he has
been doing a very good job as president otherwise. I just think that if the
Chief Law Enforcement Officer of a country is allowed to get away with
perjury and obstruction of justice, it is a BAD thing for that country.
Eric F. Peterson
Politically Incorrect and Proud.
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