Linux-Misc Digest #65, Volume #21 Sat, 17 Jul 99 21:13:17 EDT
Contents:
Re: RH6.0 Kernel upgrade question ("Kin Man Yau")
Re: Upgrade from slackware 3.4 to 4.0 (William Park)
RH52, cannot make boot floppy ("Brad Ball")
Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft? (Paul Gallagher)
Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft? (Justin B Willoughby)
FTP Using KDE (Milt Martin)
Quick stop/start Filesystem ? (Declan Mullen)
Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem (Robert Heller)
System Prompt (Alexander Lem)
Re: Web server information ("moi")
Re: Problem booting - Redhat (Robert Heller)
Re: car mp3 player
PGP segmentation fault
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? ("Stuart Fox")
Re: VMWARE floppy boot problem (Jeff Goodman)
install problem ("Larry Standhey")
Lilo & ATA-66 ("WME")
Re: My crazy email scheme (Carl Fink)
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From: "Kin Man Yau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.0 Kernel upgrade question
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:06:26 -0500
Your CPU is Pentium II, so you should choose *i686.rpm
If all you want is the upgrade, here's the files you want:
kernel-2_2_5-22_i686.rpm
kernel-BOOT-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
this are precomplied version of generic kernel
downloading them and fire up gnorpm, choose upgrade and install
them, then edit /etc/lilo.conf, change the 2.2.5-15 to 2.2.5-22 (if
it's not changed by gnorpm). Then run lilo and reboot.
If you really want to compile yourself, get the following:
kernel-headers-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
kernel-ibcs-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
kernel-smp-2_2_5-22_i686.rpm
kernel-source-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
kernel-doc-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
and read through the Kernel HOW-TO, then you can start to
build your kernel. Go to /usr/src/linux-2.2.5-22 and
make xconfig (make changes, first change is to change CPU to 686)
make clean
make dep
make
make modules
make modules_install
make install
Hopefully make install will fix the lilo already, reboot and pray.
if you know what you are doing, you probably don't need:
kernel-ibcs-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2_2_5-22_i386.rpm
kernel-smp-2_2_5-22_i686.rpm
I prefer compiling the kernel myself, as the generic kernel has a lot of
stuff you don't need, plus have some stuff i want but you won't get them in
generic kernel, in my case, they are support for BSD and Solaris partitions.
If you got further problems, you're welcome to repost (or better, send
email)
good luck and enjoy
Charles
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: William Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade from slackware 3.4 to 4.0
Date: 17 Jul 1999 23:06:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am currently running slackware 3.4 with kernel 2.0.35 and WordPerfect
> for Linux installed. What is the simplest way to upgrade to 4.0 ?
> Should I backup everything and reinstall or is there a simpler way ?
> Eric Headley
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I went from 3.3 to 4.0 by simply backing up
entire /home
entire /usr/local
selected files that I modified (ie. /etc/...)
and did full install.
--William
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From: "Brad Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH52, cannot make boot floppy
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:41:08 GMT
My friend has a problem installing RedHat 5.2 on a system almost identical
to mine. I had no trouble at all. Basically, when he gets to the point of
creating a boot disk, he gets a generic message saying "An error occured"
and the system doesn't even try to access the floppy. He cannot create a
boot disk.
System specs:
Abit BH6
Celeron 400 (no overclocking)
128bm PC100 ram
13.3G Quantum CR hd
I have seen a couple of other posts where people had this problem but no one
has posted a solution as of yet. Yes, I can give him a boot floppy from my
machine but I want to know why it doesn't work on his system. Any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Brad.
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Subject: Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
From: Paul Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Jul 1999 18:46:46 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JY) writes:
> who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
...thanks for playing...
P
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
Date: 17 Jul 1999 23:16:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
JY ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
MS does no make Linux. Probably will never even have a distribution of their
own either.
I use SlackWare and have been very happy with it. There are a number of
other distribution out there which have a lot to offer also. It all has to
do with what you want (and what to do with it).
- Justin
--
_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ RULES!! * LINUX RULES *
_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Justin Willoughby
_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://justinw.net
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ ---- Jesus Is Lord ----
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From: Milt Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,redhat.general
Subject: FTP Using KDE
Date: 17 Jul 1999 23:31:05 GMT
Using KFM I can gain access to FTP directories,
but it does not always show all files and or directories.
I can also use gftp and access same ftp directories which shows all files
including .exe, .zip and subdirectory folders on Win NT host.
Why? Fix?
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:40:22 +1000
From: Declan Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Quick stop/start Filesystem ?
redhat 5.2
kernel 2.0.36
I have a 486pc linux box acting as an Internet gateway. All it does is
provide the masquerading functionality.
I want to be able to get my linux box up and down as quickly as
possible.
Ideally, I would like to be able to just turn it off without a shutdown
and then be able to start it up again without a long fsck check.
Any suggestions on what filesystem type I should be using and what mount
parameters should be used with it ?
Currently I've got a single ext2 filesystem, (ie the root filesystem).
Many thanks for any solutions or pointers on this.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Solving the 1024 cylinder LILO problem
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:08:51 GMT
"Neil Koozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:28:59 -0700, wrote :
"K> Holger Petersen wrote in message ...
"K> >Horst von Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"K> >
"K> >
"K> >>This isn't a lilo problem, it's a BIOS problem.
"K> >
"K> >It's both.
"K>
"K>
"K> Yes. It is a lilo problem inasmuch as there is no reason to write lilo to
"K> use the bios at all. (for IDE drives)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the kicker. Some of us use SCSI boxes. SCSI controllers come
in various shapes and sizes... ISA, PCI, SCSI2, SCSI3, wide, ultra wide,
etc. Lilo uses the BIOS for a *good* reason -- it allows Lilo to work
with a *variety* of boot devices. Unfortunately, the BIOS standard is
broken and has this stupid 1023 cylinder limit...
"K>
"K> A year ago I wrote a working prototype first-stage loader (the part that
"K> goes into the MBR) which addresses the IDE drives directly without using the
"K> bios in any way. If used in lilo, it could boot linux anywhere in the first
"K> 128gb and from any IDE drive (hda ... hdh). The working prototype takes up
"K> 84 bytes.
"K>
"K> I wanted to integrate this into lilo, but I had trouble reading the source
"K> code, so I sent my routine to the lilo maintainer a year ago. He didn't
"K> acknowledge receipt of it or anything, so I don't know if he's interest in
"K> that idea or not.
"K>
"K> Neil.
"K>
"K>
"K>
"K>
--
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alexander Lem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System Prompt
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:04:26 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do any of you know how does one make the system prompt dynamic so as to
always show the complete path of the current working directory your in
one you cd into it?
Thanks for your help.
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From: "moi" <d_de_youngathotmail.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Web server information
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:41:17 -0700
Here's something cool :-) heard this, just wanted to check!!
the test addy is www.netcraft.com/whats
www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b
on FreeBSD
Apache is also being used by Javasoft, Financial Times, W3 Consortium, and
The Royal Family.
FreeBSD users include Yahoo, The Apache Project, and MP3.com.
Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In alt.os.linux Peter Burden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Darren Paxton wrote:
> :>
> :> Hi, guys,
> :>
> :> Just a quickie, been searching the web and deja.com to try to find the
> :> address of that site that gives information on what kind of machine a
> :> server is running on.
>
> : You could try something like (at a telnet prompt near you)
>
> : bash$ telnet www.wlv.ac.uk 80
> : Trying 134.220.1.9... <- output from telnet
> : Connected to ccuf.wlv.ac.uk. <- more output from telnet
> : Escape character is '^]'. <- more output from telnet
> [snip]
> : Connection closed by foreign host. <- etc
>
> : If you type GET rather than HEAD you'll get the full HTML text and, wow,
> : you can surf the WWW without a browser.
>
> An easier way (if lynx is installed) is to just type something like
>
> bash$ lynx -dump -head http://www.wlv.ac.uk
>
> And you should get the same output (with less hassle).
>
> You could also try http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch
> Somewhere there is a link to test what webserver/os a site runs.
>
> :>
> :> Can anyone send it to me either on news or email??
> :>
>
> --
> Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://home.thezone.net/~seymour
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem booting - Redhat
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:08:49 GMT
"Vijay Mayadas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:43:31 -0700, wrote :
"M> I had to shutdown down my Redhat 6.0 system (running on a Dell poweredge
"M> 1300) and bypass the usual shutdown -h command.
"M>
"M> When I rebooted the system, it came up with:
"M>
"M> /dev/sda9: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY...
"M>
"M> It dropped me into the shell and I typed 'fsck'. Nothing happened except the
"M> version of fsck was displayed.
"M>
"M> How am I supposed to run fsck?
# fsck /dev/sda9
"M>
"M> Any help appreciated.
"M>
"M> Vijay
"M>
"M>
"M>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: car mp3 player
Date: 18 Jul 1999 00:31:05 GMT
Byron A Jeff wrote:
>
> In article <7hf7s9$2sq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > +-----On 13 May 1999 16:04:06 GMT, David L. Bilbey spoke unto us:----
======
> > | I'm looking into constructing an mp3 player for my car. I've
searched the
> > | web, but come up with lots of useless (for me) info. Basically,
what I'm
> > | looking for is a linux mp3 program that I can use for the
playing. It
> > | should support keypad control, and ideally, output to an LCD
screen. Does
> > | anyone have any pointers. If not, where can I get info on writing
one
> > | myself? Thanks.
> > --
> >
> >I've also got another problem. Shutting the car off/shutting down the
> >computer. If I mount the file-system read-only, is it okay to just
shut it
> >off? If not, how would I go about addressing this problem?
>
> Switched unswitched power is a good idea. However another way of doing it
> works too. Make it read only and run your root filesystem out of a
ramdisk
> which is loaded from the hard disk at boot time. Mount the MP3 partition
> read only.
>
> Then flipping out power has no ill effect. Only the RAMDISK disappears
and
> will reload upon the next boot.
>
> For playlist and uploading you can temporarily make the main partition
read
> write, write the stuff, then make it read only again.
>
> The only real problem with this solution is the fact that it does take
time
> for the machine to boot. It's just a question of whether or not 30-45
seconds
> when you first start up is a bother to you or not...
>
> BAJ
Here is what I have:
P133, with sb16, floppy, removable IDE bay, two flavors of mp3 players (i
coded some extras myself, like the $6 parallel port 2x16 lcd display i got
from www.oic.com) ... had to make for linux and watcom (mainly delay and
outp stuff) my linux flavor is based on mpg123, lirc, irmp3. My DOS
flavor is based on ocp251 (opensource) and I just dipped into the
appropriate spots to add lcd and joystick(no ir at this time) support.
I want to do something with RAM:
Ive looked at the linux edge project (a linux firewall on a floppy) at
http://edge.fireplug.net which uses the RAMdisk solution. Do you have a
URL to a howto on making this RAMdisk solution? Is there much to this?
It would be really nice if my mp3 player would squoze on a cramdisk, that
way I could share a floppy IMZ file with buds on the net. This thing
would have to use floppy to expand kernel *.gz files into ramdisk, then
mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mnt/mp3 for my songs.
I dont want shutdown -h now:
I actually rewrote my rs.sysinit, with a mount -o remount,ro, but ran into
the problem that the lirc driver needs /dev to be writable, can I make
another partition for this directory. The way I am setup is with one of
those removable IDE harddrive bays (so I can pop it into my home PC and
freshen my songs)
Inverters suck:
Are the negative voltages really needed for anything coming into the MB,
if not, im hoping a simple voltage regulator will allow me to bypass the
inverter?
get me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: PGP segmentation fault
Date: 17 Jul 1999 21:39:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi I am running slackware 4.0. I have been trying to install pgp on my
system, but w/ no success.
after I have pgp installed and I run it I keep getting:
"segmentation fault".
why is this? i have compiled from sourse, downloaded a rpm and converted
it to a tgz, and also used both kinds of pgp avail. 2.6.2 and 6.x.x.
Slack runs Libc, this shouldn't matter tho' does it?
Ryan
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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:38:00 +1200
Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > > > For the last few years Microsoft has been trying to push
> > > > their own ideas and strategies through IETF as official
> > > > standards (e.g. DHCP, a Microsoft-invented extension to
> > > > BootP). Basically Microsoft develops something on their own,
> > > > pushes it as a (hopefully, from their point of view, very
> > > > complex) standard, that is difficult to implement, and then
> > > > gets a head start from the work they have already done by
> > > > being the first company with a working implementation.
> > > > Everyone else has to catch up.
> >
> > Microsoft invented DHCP? I hadn't heard that one, I had always thought
it
> > was based on an RFC. But then again a lot of that rant seemed to be full
of
> > shit.
>
> Microsoft DHCP != DHCP
>
It's RFC compliant. How is it not DHCP? You can't just say that it's not
and not tell us why.
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From: Jeff Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMWARE floppy boot problem
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:43:07 -0700
Alan Fried wrote:
>
> Jeff Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I didn't realize that the VM BIOS even supported booting from diskette,
> >but I checked the BIOS option and it looked like it should work - so I
> >tried a DOS 6.22 diskette, and it booted fine.
> >
> >When you attempt to boot, does the diskette light turn on? If not, you
> >may want to check the VM BIOS "Boot" option. For the record - I'm
> >running VMWare for Linux (registered, not eval), and the guest is NT4,
> >running from a "raw disk" partition, not a virtual disk.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> Hi Jeff
>
> I'm not the original poster and I'm glad you have the raw disk
> option going well. I have it working on windows 95 but I can't
> seem to get the printer to work. Whenever I print I get a
> communication error.
>
> I have red hat 5.1 with a 2.2.9 kernel with an HP712 printer.
> The printer works fine under linux since I have the ppa
> driver. Initially the printer did work under the raw
> disk option but it suddenly stopped.
>
> I reconfigured the raw disk option by deleting it
> and installing but it did not solve the problem. I
> also disabled the bidirectional feature without
> any results. I also disabled color printing without
> any results. Also the printer port is /dev/lp0 as it
> should be.
>
> Do you have any suggestions from what you did with
> Windows NT that may be applicalbe to Win 95?
>
> It seems that VmWare likes NT better than 95 or 98.
>
> Thanx in advance
Alan, I hadn't configured printing in the VM before either, so I just
gave it a try. Seems to work fine - except that I had to bring up
VMWare after su'ing to root, or else VMWare complained /dev/lp0
permission denied. Other than that, I did nothing special.
I'm running SuSE 6.1 (2.2.5 kernel), to an HP855C printer. I did not
touch the parallel port configuration at all - it is set as
bidirectional.
If the printer was working, and suddenly stopped, seems like you need to
identify what changed - software, hardware, config, etc. Good luck...
Jeff
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From: "Larry Standhey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general,redhat.rpm.general
Subject: install problem
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:30:52 -0400
I am trying to make a full install of RedHat 5.2 from a cdrom distribution.
The install keeps telling me I am running out of space. Can anyone tell me
how much space is required to install the os plus all the goodies; gcc,
samba, and more?
I also don't fully understand how to configure the disk partitions and mount
points. How many should there be? What should their size be? I have a 2.4 G
HDD Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Standley
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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo & ATA-66
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:55:36 -0400
Hi,
I had a question about my new ATA66 WDC 13GB and installing Lilo. The
message disappeared too early, so I'll have to explain the problem again
because it is not yet solved.
I am running a pentium pro 150 on a supermicro board. I have a WDC 2.5G
(Win98) and Seagate 1.2G (Linux) in addition to my new WDC 13G ATA66 drive.
I updated my bios as the MB manufacturer recommended. The motherboard can
now see the full capacity of the drive. I installed my win98 about 4 times
using ez-bios and WITHOUT ez-bios. Lilo would install on the MBR, but when i
boot, it is as if it is not there. I tried having Fat32 and FAT 16. I even
tried to make my boot partition 2G (FAT16). My reasoning was maybe the
kernel has some limitations. When I installed lilo that time, the system
refused to boot. When I did "fdisk /mbr" then afterwards "sys c:" nothing
happened, so i had to reformat.
Any ideas?
I also tried disabeling the "Busmaster" and "S.M.A.R.T. for HDD" in the
BIOS.
My only solution now is to have my older drive as the bootdrive and keep the
new drive, but I'd rather not do that.
Any help is appreciated.
Please post only.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: My crazy email scheme
Date: 18 Jul 1999 00:40:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:19:53 GMT Andrew de los Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[enormous snip]
>So here's my idea. Why not eliminate mail.chicagonet.net from the
>outgoing chain? Like this:
[smaller snip]
>But what is this protocol that mail servers use to talk to each other?
SMTP.
>Are there problems I havent forseen? If you know of software to do this
>(preferably for linux) or of a protocol (RFC would be nice so I can
>write my own program), please let me know.
There are quite a few Linux packages out there to to this, the three
top names seemingly being qmail, smail, and sendmail. I happen to
use smail, but that's not an endorsement -- once I had it working, I
had no motivation to try the others. Basically, you become an
independent host on the 'net, directly sending mail to your
recipient's machine.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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