Linux-Misc Digest #65, Volume #26 Tue, 17 Oct 00 19:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Cannot open /var/log/sa/sa13 (Tony Lawrence)
extract file from .rpm in Windows? (Danny Wang)
Kernel compiling problem (Rafael)
Re: [Fwd: probs with stylus 600] (TM)
Re: Kernel compiling problem (Vilmos Soti)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Nigel Feltham")
Re: Wanna lose warranty and pay $200 because my laptop has Linux? (Stewart
Honsberger)
Re: Downloading xchat (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: apache w/ dso re-compilation?? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Warning: Command is not ELF ("J.Smith")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (SCHeckler)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Eric Y. Chang)
multiple NIC Cards very flakey! (Joshua Alguire)
Re: Not allow mount file system (The Darkener)
Which Linux distro most 'generic' *nix ? ("J.H.Delaney")
Re: multiple NIC Cards very flakey! (Tony Lawrence)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Gardiner Family)
Re: Wanna lose warranty and pay $200 because my laptop has Linux? ("beaches")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Gardiner Family)
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot open /var/log/sa/sa13
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:16:20 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In the mourning, I get a mail from Cron on my RedHat 7.0 master and
> slave DNS boxes that says: 'Cannot open /var/log/sa/sa13: No such
> file or directory.' Also it says: '&
> At EOF
> &
> At EOF' (over and over again)
>
> I looked into the /var/log/sa directory and the file sa13 doesn't
> exist. It also seems like it is looking for an sa file with the
> current date; example: today is was sa16. Yesterday it was the 16th,
> is that right?
Yes, that's right (and it's nice to see sar in Linux!).
Probably the permissions on /var/log/sa are incorrect; sar
usually runs non-root and needs read and write permission in that
directory. Another thing that can screw it up is running sar by
hand as root before the cron job runs; this creates a sa file
with wrong ownership.
Another possibility is that the scripts are wrong- I haven't yet
installed RH7 so haven't seen these yet, but as sar is new to
Linux folk (old hat to us old Unix guys) RH *could* have screwed
up their scripts- look in root's crontab and whatever account
owns sar- there normally would be entries in both that do
different things.. check the scripts and see what they do..
For those who don't know, "sar" is a wonderful tool that should
be running on every machine, particularly if you are an installer
who may have to come back later to tune for performance. See
http://pcunix.com/Reviews/sarcheck.html for an overview..
--
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com
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From: Danny Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: extract file from .rpm in Windows?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:08:35 GMT
Hi -
What tool can I use to extract file from rpm in Windows2K? I have a cd
of SRPMS of RedHat 7.0, but my OS is RedHat 6.2, which cannot use the
textutils-2.0e-8.src.rpm from Redhat 7.0, and the error message looks
like:
only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version of
RPM
error: textutils-2.0e-8.src.rpm cannot be installed
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel compiling problem
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:36:07 +0200
I compiled last kernel 2.2.17 but when I wanted setup config using "make
xconfig" option to choose network card realtek was not active. Why? What
should I do to get my reltek card
be compiled as module???? Or whotever.
Rafael
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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: probs with stylus 600]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:45:12 +0200
Hi,
I don't have such a file on my system (RH7.0) but I do have a file that looks
like, /usr/lib/rhs/rhs-printfilters/postscript.cfg.in, that is modified
through printtool. In which directory should I put the cfg file you sent.
Thank you
TM
Robert Heller a �crit :
> TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:21:13 +0200, wrote :
>
> T> hi,
> T> I have some trouble with a stylus 600 printer used with linux. I
> T> configured the printing service to use exactly this model with a
> T> definition of 360x360 dpi. The text is very well printet but the whole
> T> page is also covered with thin regular blue lines. I tried also 720x720
> T> and then the lines are much more close one to another.
> T>
> T> Any idea?
> T>
> T> Thanks
> T>
> T> TM
>
> I produce execelent printouts using the uniprint driver. Here the
> postscript.cfg files I use:
>
> 'fastcolor' (Epson Stylus Color 600, 720x720DpI, Plain Paper):
>
> #
> # configuration related to postscript printing
> # generated automatically by PRINTTOOL
> # manual changes to this file may be lost
> #
> GSDEVICE=uniprint
> RESOLUTION=NAxNA
> COLOR=stc600p
> PAPERSIZE=letter
> EXTRA_GS_OPTIONS=""
> REVERSE_ORDER=
> PS_SEND_EOF=NO
>
> #
> # following is related to printing multiple pages per output page
> #
> NUP=1
> RTLFTMAR=18
> TOPBOTMAR=18
>
> 'color' (Epson Stylus Color 600, 1440x720DpI, Inkjet Paper):
>
> #
> # configuration related to postscript printing
> # generated automatically by PRINTTOOL
> # manual changes to this file may be lost
> #
> GSDEVICE=uniprint
> RESOLUTION=NAxNA
> COLOR=stc600ih
> PAPERSIZE=letter
> EXTRA_GS_OPTIONS=""
> REVERSE_ORDER=
> PS_SEND_EOF=NO
>
> #
> # following is related to printing multiple pages per output page
> #
> NUP=1
> RTLFTMAR=18
> TOPBOTMAR=18
>
>
> --
> \/
> Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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Subject: Re: Kernel compiling problem
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:56:36 GMT
Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I compiled last kernel 2.2.17 but when I wanted setup config using "make
> xconfig" option to choose network card realtek was not active. Why? What
> should I do to get my reltek card
> be compiled as module???? Or whotever.
Things can be greyed out if they are incomplete/experimental. Maybe
your driver is such. I don't know. You can get that option in the
"Code Maturity Options".
Vilmos
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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:56:26 +0100
>Yea, but at least it doesn't have that funny smell about it, and infect
>itself into every nook and cranny it can.
>
It does replace whatever desktop you decide to use with something similar to
the one a lot of us came to linux to avoid using - as soon as it is taken
apart and rebuilt into separate applications which don't need as many
resources and leave the desktop alone the better - this will be an example
of the difference in quality between closed source (staroffice as it
currently stands) and open source (staroffice 6.0 when it is rewritten). Of
course there will be plenty of competition from K office by then so they
will have to be good to compete.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Wanna lose warranty and pay $200 because my laptop has Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:06:59 GMT
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 07:54:20 GMT, YY Lee wrote:
>So I called again Toshiba to finalize shipment for servicing of my Toshiba
>Tecra. I was told if they find any other OS than what it came with it I'll
>loss the warranty and be charged $200 for repair. That is more clear warning
>that I was originally told.
Speaking as a computer reseller, that's the most sickening thing I've ever
heard! The software has nothing to do with the hardware installed in the
machine, irregardless of what software it may be (OS or application). If a
CDROM is damaged, the CDROM should be replaced. They have no business in
dealing with your operating system. If they want to test the CDROM, they can
boot a Win'98 'start disk' and try to read the CD in the drive, or (BIOS
support pending) they could boot a bootable CDROM (Win'98 should be bootable)
and ensure that the drive reads.
You should tell Toshiba to shove their support where the sun may or may not
shine, and tell them exactly what you feel about their warranty clause. I
know that I certainly would!
>Not only I will whack MBR this time but will really empty the contents of
>/dev/hda5 while /dev/hda1 will only have solely a Windows 98!
You shouldn't have to. Re-read the warranty they gave you. If you find no
mention of the installed OS, send it as-is and if they charge $200 and/or
wipe your Linux partition(s), tell them that they'll hear from your lawyer.
Don't put up with that - that's wrong in every possible way. Just because
they're too stupid to fix computers doesn't mean that their customers should
be persecuted.
Microsoft's monopoly is bad enough as it is, they don't need OEM support.
Absolutely disgusting. Words just can not describe.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test7
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Downloading xchat
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:08:01 GMT
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:09:49 +0100, Derrick King wrote:
>I would like to get hold of XCHAT, which I believe is a good IRC program. I
>have found some references to it via various seach engines, but...
>
>1. There are several different packages (source and binaries, different
>versions of Linux), how do I know which one to doanload. I am running
>Mandrake V 7.1.
>
>2. Once downloaded, how do I install it!
I always download source packages. Once you've downloaded it, read the
README and INSTALL files for instructions.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
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Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test9
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: apache w/ dso re-compilation??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:13:32 GMT
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:14:42 -0500, River Storm wrote:
>I need to recompile my apache with DSO support.
>To my understanding DSO will allow me to add modules without re-compiling
>apache.
>I need to install modules for MySQL, PHP, Perl once i get apache to run.
>What should i enter for after ./configure ??
RTFM is your best course of action.
A small hint; mod_so.c {cough} is in src/modules/standard. It must be
ADDed to the Apache compilation.
Apache comes with sufficient documentation in the source tarball to compile
all requisite options. I suggest you read the README and INSTALL files very
carefully and thoroughly before attempting to put the Apache server live.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
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Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test9
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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Warning: Command is not ELF
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:19:32 +0200
> >
> > Warning: XXX is not ELF
>
> What is the "XXX?"
>
Well, one I can think of right now, is the depmod command. For example, when
I type 'depmod -a' I get the message 'Warning: depmod is not ELF'
> As I said in a previous message, you can use 'ldd program-name' to
> find out what dynamic libraries the executable expects to find at
> run-time.
Thanks. Ill give that a go then.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCHeckler)
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:34:10 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Heller wrote:
>MW> It's time for someone to write *the* definitive free DTP program. If
>MW> no one else will do it, I will. The problem is that it will probably
>MW> take as long to develop as TeX did, which means I'm going to have to
>MW> be a tenured professor before I can take the first stab at it ;)
>
>Actually, probably not. TeX/LaTeX might be 90% there. All you really
>need would be some sort of GUI layout front end for TeX or LaTeX
<SNIP>
Already done. Check out Lyx at http://www.lyx.org/
--
Gregory Spath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://freefall.homeip.net/
SCHeckler on IRC ----------> http://freefall.homeip.net/javairc/
Team YBR ------------------> http://www.yellowbreechesracing.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 17 Oct 2000 22:41:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it looks like
: crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with the rest of the
: world, is using Word.
My boss is peer review, and if my report (paper) looks like crap, it is
because my secretary swapped two plots. Yes, she uses MS Word, and I
don't know how to use it. Maybe if I learned it I could do a better
job. How pretty the report is does not matter if it does not get the
message across. A stale plot or swapped one makes it look bad, even
if you are using the latest and greatest version of MS Word. Even
gradient fill won't fix it.
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From: Joshua Alguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: multiple NIC Cards very flakey!
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:36:18 -0500
Hi All, I understand you both may know someone who can
help us with this. If so, here is a description of our problem.
We have 2 mandrake systems each with multiple NICs. The
problem is that we can't get more than 2 cards to work at
one time. All cards get recognized and we can successfully
configure them with IPs, but it is very flakey after this.
The exact configuration is this:
2 systems, each with 3 NICs connected directly to the other
system with 3 crossover cables. Each connection is
configured as a different private network...
192.168.3.0, 192.168.4.0, 192.168.5.0
...and each interface has a unique IP, all 1's on the first
system and all 2;s on the second.
System 1 System 2
192.168.3.1 <---> 192.168.3.2
192.168.4.1 <---> 192.168.4.2
192.168.5.1 <---> 192.168.5.2
All interfaces get recognized and assigned IP's fine.
The routing table looks fine. The problem now is that only
one or two interfaces will work. Sometimes when they ping
the other side the traffic led will flash on the NIC, and the
traffic led will flash on the receiving NIC but the ping gets
no response. Sometimes the led on the card won't flash at
all. If you switch the positions of the cards around and
reboot, now different cards will or will not work.
All cards work independently. By this I mean both system
with any 2 NICs will work fine. The problem is multiple NICs
at the same time. It looks to be a configuration issue but we
can't figure out what it is. It all looks like it should be
working.
We have also written the MAC addresses on the cards
so there is no confusion which interface belongs to which
network.
Is there anything other than the routing and ifconfig'ing
that needs to be done?
The cards we are using are:
5 Realtek 8139 PCI
2 Intel 82559 PCI
1 Linksys Ether16 ISA
Please CC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks,
- josh
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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Not allow mount file system
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:49:13 GMT
So basically this has nothing to do with being able to mount a filesystem, as
it is trying to prevent piracy of a certain software program on a computer
(your product) that you're selling...am I right on this?
Beggar wrote:
> The Linux box is our product and we have develop some software inside.
> I need to sell the product, but don't want the buyer can steal the program
> inside. So the password in BIOS is not practical because the buyer need
> to startup the machine.
>
> Thanks for your reply!!
>
> Dicky
>
> The Darkener wrote:
>
> > Besides using encrypted filesystems (probably your best bet), if you've
> > got someone that has physical access to your hardware, there really
> > isn't anything you can do. They can just as well steal your hard drive,
> > bring it to a cleanroom and read the data bit-by-bit onto another
> > drive. Your best bet is to:
> >
> > 1) Use a good bios password
> > 2) Put a lock on your physical computer case
> > 3) Enforce good physical security around the box (is this at home, or in
> > a work enviornment?)
> >
> > Beggar wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > is there any way to not allow the linux partition cannot mount
> > > by other OS (include linux) except the machine install on it.
> > >
> > > I want to protect my files not being steal by others even he can
> > > physically access the hardware. Any idea?
> > >
> > > I have heard about "kerneli.org" , but it seems not applicable for
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Dicky
> >
> > --
> > - The Darkener
> > It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
--
- The Darkener
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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From: "J.H.Delaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Which Linux distro most 'generic' *nix ?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:50:52 +0200
Hi there.
Since a few months I have to work with a commercial *nix version at work, so
it seemed like a good idea to install linux at my system at home, just as a
learning experience. But after having tried out a few distro's, namely
RedHat and SuSe, it seems to me like every linux distro is trying very hard
to set itself apart from every other distro by doing almost everything there
own way and including a lot of distro specific add-ons, and including a lot
of stuff that is not commonly found on commercial unices.
It would help me learn *nix in general more quickly if, for example, I dont
have to learn two different ways of how the init.d directories are layed
out, or keep remembering (forgetting) that Linux does 'adduser', but most
commercial *nixes do 'useradd'.
So I was wondering which distro comes closest to a generic commercial *nix ?
Any and all suggestions are more than welcome.
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: multiple NIC Cards very flakey!
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:58:31 -0400
Joshua Alguire wrote:
> The cards we are using are:
>
> 5 Realtek 8139 PCI
Junk.
> 2 Intel 82559 PCI
Never used this.
> 1 Linksys Ether16 ISA
Near junk.
Why buy cheap crap for important machines?
--
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com
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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:02:32 +1300
In theory, say if Microsoft made the DOS component of Windows totally 32bit and
then slapped Windows (made totally 32bit) on top, would this result in a more
stable OS, if so, why didn't MS do it? Just a question :)
Matt
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From: "beaches" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Wanna lose warranty and pay $200 because my laptop has Linux?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:14:14 +1000
This is the crew who give you the choice of a refund if you don't want to
use Windows and then refuse to actually refund the money.
I used to own a Toshiba and it was for the most part, trouble free but a
year or 2 ago someone I know decided they would save some money by not
taking the OS with their new machine... Consumer affairs thought it a real
strange thing he didn't want an operating system on his computer!!! He won
after 9 months of haggling.
The truth is Microsoft sell the OS to Toshiba for $50 and every reseller and
assembler for $130. They (MS) are known to threaten computer companies with
all sorts of shit (see US DOJ case) if they don't toe the line.
When win 98 was released Toshiba posted information on their web site that
their customers should not upgrade because they (Toshiba) hadn't evaluated
the OS properly. Microsoft made them take it down on about day 2.
My advise? buy a computer that has windows in a box and get a refund on it
or, just buy a computer and say you don't want the OS with it... There's
about 50 good brands I know of that will out perform Toshiba anyway.
Alienjones himself
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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:05:08 +1300
plus, the definition of an OS constantly changes as each company adds new features as
standard to their OS, then after a few years these enhancements are accepted by other
OS
venders and incorperate those features into their OS.
Matt
2:1 wrote:
> Larry Ebbitt wrote:
> >
> > Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > DOS is an operating system. It provides file and memory services, and in general
> > > acts as an interface between the system and applications. That's what an OS
> > > does. The analogy between LILO and DOS doesn't really hold water.
> >
> > DOS doesn't really qualify as an OS. It is a set of executive programs.
> > There are ACM definitions of Operating Systems that are fairly well
> > accepted and DOS falls very short on resource management and scheduling.
>
> The early OSs were a lot less than DOS was. Dos is an old OS. 20 years
> ago, that wasw about all the OS you could fit o to one of those
> computers, but it was still an OS. Just because it was used long past
> it's use-by data, doesn't make it any less of an OS.
>
> -Ed
>
> > --
> > Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta
>
> --
> Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
> binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
> first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
> commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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