Linux-Misc Digest #65, Volume #28                 Sat, 9 Jun 01 02:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments? (Carl Fink)
  I've the PCMCIA blues... (Jerome Mrozak)
  Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000. ("Schorschi Decker")
  Is it me or THEM (faeychyld)
  Re: need book on unix/linux utilities ("bowman")
  kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for ucc-bin... (Nicklas Larsson)
  Re: A plea to those posting questions ("Some-One from No-Where")
  Re: X-server access problem in RH 7.1 ("jeff")
  Re: Is it me or THEM (Dave Uhring)
  Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How? ("jeff")
  Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Is it me or THEM ("jeff")
  Re: Announce: Tk based alarm clock (* Tong *)
  Re: Debian install suggestions, anyone? (Michael Perry)
  Re: Domino Server (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Agenda PDA (Michael Perry)
  Re: I've the PCMCIA blues... (Michael Perry)
  [Q] serial ports (Ken Mankoff)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments?
Date: 9 Jun 2001 02:10:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Another possibility comes to mind.  At work, I use Lotus Notes for mail. 
One of our consultants uses Outlook.  They can't send me attachments and
vice versa -- they come across as junk.  

What we do is, use servers.  When they have a file to send me, they put it
up on their corporate FTP server and mail me a link.  When I have a file to
send them, I put it on my personal (ISP) web page and mail them a link.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>

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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I've the PCMCIA blues...
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:53:44 -0500

I'm trying to get my laptop connected to my company's network through a
PCMCIA card.  The network lets me connect through DHCP.

If I install Mandrake 8.0 on it, it has a wizard that detects a borrowed
3Com (3c575_cb) card and an iPort 10/100 (pcnet_cs) that I own and
properly connects me to the network and, from there, the internet.

My problem is I really don't want Mandrake, I want Debian installed.  I
have tried Storm and Progeny.  The Storm won't connect me for nothing. 
Progeny will connect with the 3Com card but not the iPort card.  The
computer beeps and boops satisfyingly upon card insertion, and the hub
reports signal activity on the network cable.  But for the iPort I can
get no connection.

The Progeny distro has a Network configurer that I set my local name to
'localhost', have no name for the remote host, use DHCP and "card is
removable".  But it doesn't seem to do anything with that information.

I've wandered through the PCMCIA HOWTO and looked at /etc/pcmcia.conf
and the files in /etc/pcmcia, but without any enlightenment.

So, what must I do to a Debian-based installation to get the system to
recognize and communicate through that pcnet_cs PCMCIA ethernet card?


Jerome Mrozak.

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From: "Schorschi Decker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: linux box cannot be seen in networkneighbourhood of win2000.
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:22:17 GMT

OK, lets get this straight, SP2 for W2K does not really mess-up Samba, or
Linux, so much as restrict a few features for security control that Linux
and Samba need unless configured as applicable.  The biggest issue is the
password as clear text issue.  You should configure Linux (i.e Samba or
whatever) to not use such a unsecure method of interaction between W2K and
the network in general.  Also, Linux and W2K support most of the same name
resolution methods with just a bit of configuration.  The real exception is
NETBIOS, W2K still loves to use it, Linux does not have a clue unless you
know what you need to configure.

"Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> thank you guys for all the responses.
>
> Liverpool_FC.
>
>
>



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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 13:26:25 +1000
From: faeychyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is it me or THEM

I thought I would upgrade my glibc libraries
in RH 7.

Using "rpm -ivh glibc-[2c]*

results in-

error: failed dependencies:
        glibc < 2.2.2 conflicts with glibc-common-2.2.2-10

so I tried just glibc-2.2 without glibc-common.

result-

error: failed dependencies:
        glibc-common = 2.2.2-10 is needed by glibc-2.2.2-10

Put head in hands or ROFL.

You can't get there from here.


- 
-
-
- 
Regards F

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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need book on unix/linux utilities
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:43:24 -0600


"Lori Holder-Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> In addition to the fundamentals of those 3 tools, I'd also like
> something that functions as an overall guide to *nix utilities.

Unix Power Tools might be what you are looking for.

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/upt2/

click on the examples for a good idea of what is covered. there are a lot of
useful shortcuts, and it will give you a feeling for what can be done by
hooking up the various things like find, cut, grep, xargs, and so forth.

Mastering Regular Expressions  http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex/   is
pretty much the definitive
RE book.

Also, while there are a lot of good one liners, sticking with Perl is a good
idea. In a way, it is already the eclectic Unix toolbox that has
incorporated sed, awk, shell programming, and a whole
lot more. Something like sed is fine, but you hit the wall pretty fast,
where Perl can do anything. well, almost anything.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicklas Larsson)
Subject: kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for ucc-bin...
Date: 9 Jun 2001 03:42:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

please explain the 'error'??..
i get this on all heavier/mem software like q3ded, ucc-bin..

(the box is running on a smal amount of memory)

-- 
  5:30am  up 35 min,  3 users,  load average: 1.96, 1.96, 1.75

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Reply-To: "Some-One from No-Where" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Some-One from No-Where" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: A plea to those posting questions
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:50:04 -0500

i could not agree more.
i have always left my address in the clear
its not much trouble to delete the spam...
after a while you know it by description and source

</charlie>
btw that's my real name too.

"Leonard Evens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> For my amusement, I often try to help people with problems when
> I think I have something to offer.  I try to respond both to
> the newsgroup and the person.  But I don't always notice
> the non-spam additions to the recipient's address, so the
> message is bounced.  Sometimes I go to the trouble of readdressing
> the message and sometimes not.
>
> So here is my plea.  If you are asking for help, please don't
> make it  more difficult for someone to respond by messing up
> your address.  If that is too difficult for you, then put a
> comment in your posting that you don't want mail sent to you
> and responses to the newsgroup will suffice.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208



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From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-server access problem in RH 7.1
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:01:13 GMT

It is my experience that yes, RH 7.1 does indeed install a firewall by
default, unless during the installation process you select high(default)
medium or none and then choose to also "customize". I select medium and then
the "customize" tab and put a checkmark in ssh. If you want telnet or ftp
you will have to check those as well.  For the ability to export your
$DISPLAY from another host to this machine you will also have to add port
6000 to the other ports option in the customization settings of the firewall
config. Or just select firewall none ... your personal discretion is needed
to make that call.

You can access this rudimentary firewall via an application called lokkit
from the command line or I think that there is a cute button for it in menu
"firewall-config"

You might also check your hosts.allow and hosts.deny files. You may have to
add

ALL:    .yourdomain.com

and since ssh is by default compiled with tcpwrappers support you will need
to add
sshd:     ALL or .yourdomain.com

even if you enabled ssh through the firewall on the local machine.

HTH
cheers

"nordi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9fqkp5$5jk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Andrew wrote:
>
> > In our xinetd.conf everything seems to be okay - What are some possible
or
> > likely candidates for mistakes in this file? We CAN telnet into the box
> > from itself, this is why I think telnetd is installed and running. How
can
> > I check if it is running or not?
> >
> If you can telnet into your box with "telnet localhost" then telnetd is
> running. You can always check with "ps ax | grep telnetd" which will show
> the command itself and the telnetd if its running.
> With telnet you have to login as a normal user, not root, maybe that's the
> problem?
>
> > No, both machines are on the LAN behind the firewall. Is it possible
> > RedHat is setting up its own firewall and not allowing telnet access
from
> > a remote computer?
>
> I don't think RH sets up a firewall by default. Maybe you have played
> around with the /etc/hosts.* files and messed something up. Does the
> "connection failed" message appear when using the remote X-server or
telnet?
>
> Why don't you simply try ssh, maybe that works.
>
> nordi
>
> --
> Linux - Less bugs for less bucks!
>
> Visit http://private.addcom.de/nordi



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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it me or THEM
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:07:53 -0500

faeychyld wrote:

> I thought I would upgrade my glibc libraries
> in RH 7.
> 
> Using "rpm -ivh glibc-[2c]*
> 
> results in-
> 
> error: failed dependencies:
> glibc < 2.2.2 conflicts with glibc-common-2.2.2-10
> 
> so I tried just glibc-2.2 without glibc-common.
> 
> result-
> 
> error: failed dependencies:
> glibc-common = 2.2.2-10 is needed by glibc-2.2.2-10
> 
> Put head in hands or ROFL.
> 
> You can't get there from here.
> 
> 
> -
> -
> -
> -
> Regards F
> 

If you do succeed in getting the new libs installed by using --nodeps for 
instance, you will probably find yourself with an unusable system.  If you 
really want glibc-2.2.X, then install RedHat-7.1.


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From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How?
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:08:18 GMT

If these boxes have nic's then use scp or sftp to transfer them from one
host to the other.  Or a bit trickier for some is to setup samba and then
just drag n drop.

IMHO If you don't already have nic's in these hosts then I think that the
few $ you spend adding a couple nic's and a hub to network these to machines
will more than pay for itself in your new found convenience.

Cheers





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: HELP! How to send MSWord mail attachments?
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:21:51 GMT

On 9 Jun 2001 02:10:06 GMT, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Another possibility comes to mind.  At work, I use Lotus Notes for mail. 
>One of our consultants uses Outlook.  They can't send me attachments and
>vice versa -- they come across as junk.  

I know quite a few people who use Lotus Notes.  None of them
have anything good to say about it.  It seems to be even worse
than Exchange/Outlook when it comes to standards compliance.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Yow! Am I in
                                  at               Milwaukee?
                               visi.com            

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From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it me or THEM
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:34:10 GMT

You are missing other decencies possibly. You need to upgrade the entire lot
at once.  I am not sure off the top of my head just what all you need. I
think they are glibc, glibc-common, glibc-devel, glibc-profile, nscd

Also I would suggest you do a rpm -Uvh or rpm -Fvh  -not rpm -ivh You want
to upgrade/freshen glibc not install another version side by side. This is
what in my experience is giving you heartburn now.  You are trying to
install packages that will conflict with your older packages.

Put all the new rpms in a dir together and issue the command
rpm -Fvh *.rpm
This will sort out the rpms with the correct order and install them.

And for RH 7 isn't glibc-2.2-12 the most recent update security and java
issues as I recall in <2.2-12
(don't quote me check yourself)

HTH
cheers


"faeychyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I thought I would upgrade my glibc libraries
> in RH 7.
>
> Using "rpm -ivh glibc-[2c]*
>
> results in-
>
> error: failed dependencies:
> glibc < 2.2.2 conflicts with glibc-common-2.2.2-10
>
> so I tried just glibc-2.2 without glibc-common.
>
> result-
>
> error: failed dependencies:
> glibc-common = 2.2.2-10 is needed by glibc-2.2.2-10
>
> Put head in hands or ROFL.
>
> You can't get there from here.
>
>
> -
> -
> -
> -
> Regards F



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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Announce: Tk based alarm clock
Date: 09 Jun 2001 01:46:25 -0300

Hi,

If you want a handy alarm clock at your elbow, give my Ace.Tk a try
please. This is my 3rd release.

,-----
| Ace.tk - Alarm Clock for Everyday, Tk version. It is just like what
| it is in real world -- something you can set a time with, and when
| the time goes off, it pop up and window with the message and sound a
| alarm sound, and ready to be rescheduled... Alarms are marked on the
| analog clock face. Arbitrary numbers of simultaneous alarms are
| allowed.
`-----

For more information, please check out my *niX Power Tools web page:
 http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/crossplatform/index.htm 

-- 
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
  *niX Power Tools Project: http://xpt.sourceforge.net/
  - All free contribution & collection

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Debian install suggestions, anyone?
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 05:43:08 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:30:31 -0500, Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The potato installer is rather unforgiving.  Type correctly the first
> time, you won't get a chance to backtrack very often, if at all.
> 
> Missy wrote:
>> 
>> I just ordered a copy of Debian potato to install on my PS/2 77....I would
>> appreciate any help or advice etc. cause I've heard lots of horror stories!
>> Beware, I'm not an expert, but not a total idiot. If it's anything like the
>> LISA install of Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 I'll survive ok. Thank you!
>> 
>> Missy
>> 
>> --
Yeah, thats true overall.  Main thing here, Missy, is take your time with
the installer.  IF you get frustrated or "trapped" in a series of answers,
take it and see if you can backtrack a bit and redo things you had already
done.  I have done a "few" debian installs over the past 2 years or so.  I
have had a few bomb on me.  But overall, if I was patient, watched the
screen to see where I was, I always got a good install.  Also its good to
have it on cd or have a fast network connection and do a network install
using the floppy disk images.

I never stay with Potato too long these days.  I build desktops for work and
play for myself so I like to move into unstable territory to get the latest
stuff.  If you are just starting, the spud is a good place to learn, to
experience, and view things.  Also, joining the debian users mailing list is
nice.  Lots of nice people on that list ready to help out.  The other
resource is debianplanet.org.  I read it probably every day now.  If you are
inclined to do some irc chatting (and everyone should get a dose of daily
anarchy :) ), check out OPN or irc.openprojects.net and join the #debian
channel.  Its a busy place and I have seen it with upwards of 300 folks
sometimes.  But there are people there that can help with a well placed
question.  There are some rules for irc'ing in general and they are repeated
as you login to the channel.

I enjoy the varied aspects of debian like irc, the mailing lists, the
community feel to things, playing with unstable debian, reading the mailing
lists, etc.



-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================

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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Domino Server
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 05:44:06 GMT

George Trapkov wrote:
> 
> Has anybody installed Domino Server. How do you start it?

Sorry, I haven't a clue. Have you read the README doc?

> I have worked
> on Windows however I do not know how to work on Domino for Linux. Where
> can I get a Notes client for Linux?

Sorry, Lotus Development Corp (a subsidiary of IBM) has not released a
Lotus Notes client for Linux. However, it appears that you _can_ run the
Win32 Lotus Notes client under Wine on Linux with only a few problems.

> Thanks

-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Agenda PDA
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 05:48:56 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:47:01 GMT, William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin Gregorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Has anybody on here got an Agenda yet? 
> 
>: If so, what do you think of it?
> 
> I've had a Dev. Edition for a few months.  It's very fun to develop
> for.  I've created 4 games, and began (but got bored? :) ) porting a
> few existing Xlib apps to it.  Quite easy.
> 
> FLTK (the GUI library that's standard on the Agenda, and which is what
> all of the PIM software uses) isn't too hard to learn, either.  (Hell, I
> don't even know C++! :) )
> 
> 
> And, looking at your later posting, it looks like you'd probably not want
> the PIM stuff on it.  Fortunately, you can just build your own custom
> romdisk image and dump it on your units and have more room for whatever it
> is you need to do! :)
> 
> -bill!

Bill-

Do you track the latest happenings on other pda resources like
handhelds.org?  There is some new GUI stuff like QPE for the IPAQ which
looks pretty fascinating at qpe.sourceforge.net.  The IPAQ distribution
(familiar) now has a package manager from which apps can be directly
downloaded much like debian does things.  I just ordered a new palm device,
the Handera 330, and will probably do the familiar linux thing on my IPAQ
36xx.

Some of the reviews of the agenda were not too kind.  Does agenda release
updates to the apps and utilities frequently?  Is there an app to read pdb
files?  I have lots of ebooks which I now use palm reader to go through on
my pocketpc.  Is there a move to a relational or flat database manager that
you see happening?  What is it like to sync to a linux desktop using the
agenda?  What desktop apps do you synchronize pim or contact info to?

The games sound very cool and I think either one would be a nice way to get
involved with development activities.  I am kind of sold on the ipaq due to
some of its memory and cpu resources.  You can upgrade the IPAQ now to 64mb
and 32mb of rom through several companies which do this.  That's a lotta
memory :)


-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: I've the PCMCIA blues...
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 06:01:05 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:53:44 -0500, Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to get my laptop connected to my company's network through a
> PCMCIA card.  The network lets me connect through DHCP.
> 
> If I install Mandrake 8.0 on it, it has a wizard that detects a borrowed
> 3Com (3c575_cb) card and an iPort 10/100 (pcnet_cs) that I own and
> properly connects me to the network and, from there, the internet.
> 
> My problem is I really don't want Mandrake, I want Debian installed.  I
> have tried Storm and Progeny.  The Storm won't connect me for nothing. 
> Progeny will connect with the 3Com card but not the iPort card.  The
> computer beeps and boops satisfyingly upon card insertion, and the hub
> reports signal activity on the network cable.  But for the iPort I can
> get no connection.
> 
> The Progeny distro has a Network configurer that I set my local name to
> 'localhost', have no name for the remote host, use DHCP and "card is
> removable".  But it doesn't seem to do anything with that information.
> 
> I've wandered through the PCMCIA HOWTO and looked at /etc/pcmcia.conf
> and the files in /etc/pcmcia, but without any enlightenment.
> 
> So, what must I do to a Debian-based installation to get the system to
> recognize and communicate through that pcnet_cs PCMCIA ethernet card?
> 
> 
> Jerome Mrozak.

Well, you need to verify that whatever version of debian you are doing has
a version of pcmcia services which support your card.  Lets say we do it
another way.  Lets say you find out that the version of pcmcia supports a
3com card but does not support the other.  You can do a network installation
or a cd install of debian potato and you are fine. So what I do at this
point, is download a new kernel, get the packages I know I need to compile a
kernel (like libncurses5-dev and bin86) and also download the newest pcmcia
sources (not debian).  One thing here and its a caveat.  I don't do debian
kernels or pcmcia. I then install the kernel and add packages using the
existing card services.  I could then remove the older card services and
compile the new card services and still use the older pc card or I could
start using the new card.  You could download a few deb packages for things
you know you will need for the network setup you are bringing the laptop
into.  You could physically download the dhcpcd or pump deb packages and
hold them until needed and then install the packages using dpkg.

If you do it this way, you will not have a debianized kernel or pcmcia
services.  To me, its not a big deal.  Be aware though that the stock potato
out of the box will not do 2.4 without some additions.

There are perhaps other ways to do this also.  The pcmcia related files in a
debian install are in /etc.  I usually play with things like wireless at
home and at work and also set up pcmcia schemes so that I can boot a
different network setup (dhcp at work, static at home).  As long as you have
an older card which always works, you can always get the additional missing
package you need.  I don't know much about progeny or storm.  I tend to use
the basic debian stuff. I do a potato install, then take it right up to
unstable immediately.  This is probably not what you want to do, so the
usual disclaimers apply :)

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================

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From: Ken Mankoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] serial ports
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:54:43 -0600
Reply-To: Ken Mankoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi everyone,

My system is RH7.1, default install.
My problem is with a Palm m505 serial port.

I have a wacom tablet on /dev/ttyS0. This is plugged into the back of the
computer, using one of my two external serial ports.

I have a modem using /dev/ttyS1. This is an internal modem. wvdialconf
configured it there. I am not opposed to flipping jumper settings on the
modem if that is the solution to my problem

I have a Palm m505 Serial Cradle (no USB support yet!) plugged into my
second external serial port. But i'm getting errors when i try to hotsync
with /dev/ttyS2/.

How can I set it up so I can use three serial ports at once? Is this
possible? Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
   -k.

p.s. reply to newsgroup or edit email address...

-- 
Ken Mankoff
LASP://303.492.3264
http://lasp.colorado.edu/~mankoff/


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