Linux-Misc Digest #65, Volume #27 Fri, 9 Feb 01 07:13:03 EST
Contents:
mysql 3.22 -> 3.23 ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
Re: lilo.conf and boot up questions (Stearns28)
"Only root wants to run x^hgdm" (kaikun)
Re: Compiling 2.4.1 kernel, no aic7xxx module found (Glitch)
Getting the Pentium III Id Howto? (Maik Hassel)
Disk image ("Andrea Frigo")
Newbie - listener question ("Andy Sykes")
via ac97 sound drivers for linux ("alik blochin")
Re: Disk image (Michael Heiming)
Re: Optimize for Speed? ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Measuring user satisfaction with Linux OS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: tar omitting leading directories ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: lilo.conf and boot up questions (Eric)
Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour. (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Adjusting monitor refresh rate (Mark Hewitt)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner (Mamata Desai)
Re: security (Jean-David Beyer)
firewall question (Miguel Lastra)
Backup Strategies for VMware virtual disk (Tom Voltaggio)
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mysql 3.22 -> 3.23
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:15:19 +0800
i upgrade mysql in my redhat box from 3.22 to 3.23. how can i change the
table format from the old one to isam?! in some doc, they states that it can
be achieved by the alter command, but how?! thanx.
regards,
fred
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stearns28)
Date: 09 Feb 2001 09:52:30 GMT
Subject: Re: lilo.conf and boot up questions
Thanks for the suggetions.
I tried but had no luck with "man initrd". What does that line in lilo.conf
do? Anyone?
Specifying init=/sbin/init at the lilo prompt did not start init either. The
boot process still stopped after mounting just the root file systems in
read-only mode, leaving me in a bash shell. It appeared as if none of the rc
files were executed at all.
I did not see any error message or anything out of the ordinary. The last
messagese on the console were:
"VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ...okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 60K freed"
Something must be wrong. Was my server hacked? Any ideas/suggestions?
Thanks.
-stearns
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From: kaikun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Only root wants to run x^hgdm"
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:48:05 GMT
Hi,
When I boot and log into Caldera eDesktop 2.4 as a user, I get a
message saying:
"Welcome to your OpenLinux system!
The X server is not configured yet. Please gather information about
your mouse, video card, and monitor, and run 'lizardx' as root."
Well, I already installed XFree86 4.0.2, and got everything finally
configured for my Toshiba 8100 laptop (savage chipset). I installed
Ximian Gnome as root, I was able to get in to Gmome and use it fine,
and then reboot (just for fun), and to login as myself.
I now only get the term screen (prompt) asking me to login, as gnome
nor KDE doesn't boot automatically, and after logging in as myself and
trying to start gnome by typing "gdm", I get the error message:
"Only root wants to run x^hgdm"
Can anyone help me? How do I get Gnome to boot automatically and so
that a normal user can login from the Gnome login screen?
Regards,
Scott
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 05:12:15 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling 2.4.1 kernel, no aic7xxx module found
Kerry Cox wrote:
> Howdy all. I just compiled the 2.4.1 kernel on my test box. No problems.
> I had installed Red Hat 7.1 beta 3 and it took to it like a duck to
> water.
> However, I wanted to install the 2.4.1 kenrel on my production machine
> that has a SCSI card, i.e. an Adaptec card, and when I went to do a
> "/sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.1.img 2.4.1" I got an error message
> saying the following:
>
> [root@quasi 2.4.1]# /sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.1.img 2.4.1
> No module aic7xxx found for kernel 2.4.1
>
> Any ideas. I cannot do a "make install" now since it cannot find the
> image. Is the 2.4.1 kernel not needing this image anymore?
> Thanks.
> Kerry
did u select the driver it's complaining about to be compiled as a
module or built into the kernel?
if not that might be the problem considering that's what the error
message is.
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From: Maik Hassel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Getting the Pentium III Id Howto?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:08:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi!
I would like to read my Pentium III ID (serial-number) with a
c-function!
Is this possible? And how?
Thanks for any hints
Maik
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From: "Andrea Frigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk image
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:07:24 +0100
In Linux is it possible to create a image of the full disk over some
support, in such a way that in case of HD failure I can easily recover all
my data without reinstalling Linux and all other applications, and without
configuring everything?
Thank you
Andrea Frigo
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From: "Andy Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie - listener question
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:44:03 +0200
I am trying to start a Sybase xp_server on Red Hat 6.2 and its coplaining
about not being able to start any network listeners. The port I have
specified for the listener is 4402, but it fails whatever port number I use.
I even rebooted the machine but still have the same prob.
Anyway got any ideas ?
Regards
Andy
02/09/01 11:05:44 AM syb_andys: XP Server Error: 16240/10/0: Net-Library
routine net_listen() failed in srv__start_net
Network error: status = 23 - Net-Lib protocol driver call to register a
listener failed
.
02/09/01 11:05:44 AM syb_andys: Open Server Error: 16029/20/0: Failed to
start any network listeners
.
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From: "alik blochin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: via ac97 sound drivers for linux
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:45:50 +0200
Hi i would like to know where i can get
the linux sound drivers for Via AC97 onchip sound card ?
except for paying for this at Opensound org.
Thanks in advance
--
Best regards
ALik Blochin
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk image
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:53:02 +0100
Andrea Frigo wrote:
> In Linux is it possible to create a image of the full disk over some
> support, in such a way that in case of HD failure I can easily recover all
> my data without reinstalling Linux and all other applications, and without
> configuring everything?
>
> Thank you
>
> Andrea Frigo
Hello,
you can do this with dd, tar or cpio.
There should be manpages for all of them on your box.
Just be sure to keep a hardcopy of your /etc/fstab and fdisk -l,
will make your life much easier in case of hd failure..:-)
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Sysadmin
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Optimize for Speed?
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:59:43 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:95v00c$c8m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Mandrake 7.2 with the new KDE2 is painfully slow! so slow in fact, that
> I backed out the complete installation, went back to Mandrake 7.1 and
> used my 7.2 distribution disks to simply update selected packages to
> the latest versions.
Hmm.. strange.. i got a celeron 433MHz ,160MB ram.. and a ati rage IIc
videocard..
My experience is that kde2 is just about as fast as my win2k installation on
the same
machine..(though, qt,x,kernel,kde2 are compiled from source...)
Are you sure your linux uses ALL your ram,many times you must add parameters
to the kernel/lilo to enable all your ram..
And, is X configured for your videocard, not some 'generic' driver?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Measuring user satisfaction with Linux OS
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:46:26 GMT
Hello to all Linux users. Some of you guys may have read my plea for
help some of you may not. I am currently completing my master degree in
Information System and I need respondents from all Linus users.
I have adopted a EUCS instrument to aid me in my research. The End User
Computing Satisfaction instrument was formulated by Doll and Torkdazeh
in 1988 and validated by confirmatory factor analysis. The
questionnaire may appear abit confusing but it has been proven an
effective tool in measuring end user satisfaction. Please take the time
to fill out the short 12 question instrument at
http://www.gonzalo.net/satisfaction.htm. All opinions are welcome.
Your help is critical to the completion of my degree.
Assistance will be greatly appreciated. To all those who have filled
out the questionnaire...Thank You!
Mahalo Nui Loa (Thank you very much in Hawaiian)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tar omitting leading directories
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:04:37 GMT
Thank you so much John :-))
I did this (for anyone interested):
<?php
// change directory for every file --> omitting leading directories
function tarChanged($filename) {
$parts = split('[/]',$filename);
$nbElem = count($parts);
$chgTo = $chgTo." --directory=";
for ($i=0;$i<$nbElem-2;$i++) $chgTo = $chgTo."".$parts[$i]."/";
$chgTo = $chgTo." ";
for ($i=$nbElem-2;$i<$nbElem;$i++)
$chgTo = $chgTo."".$parts[$i]."/";
$chgTo = substr($chgTo,0,strlen($chgTo)-1);
return $chgTo;
}
$files2compress = "";
$archive2send = "data.tar.gz";
for ($i=0;$i<count($files);$i++) {
$changedDirFile = tarChanged($files[$i]);
$files2compress = $files2compress." ".$changedDirFile;
}
$command_TAR = "tar -czf ".$filename." ".$files2compress;
$out = system($command_TAR,$output);
?>
Where $files = array with each element = filename with full path, e.g.
"/data/thisproject/veryimportant/format/13-02-99/file1.txt"
$command_TAR looks like this:
tar -czf data.tar.gz
--directory=/data/thisproject/veryimportant/format/ 13-02-99/file1.txt
--directory=/data/thisproject/veryimportant/format/ 13-02-99/file2.txt
--directory=/data/thisproject/veryimportant/format/ 13-02-99/file3.txt
...
--directory=/data/thisproject/othermachine/ 16-08-01/file1.txt
Yippieh, I'm happy that it works! Maybe it's not the most optimal
code but it works :-))
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:15:38 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Please give me one example of a subject that I deny a statement,
>> but don't have any belief associated with it.
> I deny that believing implies knowing.
So you have certaint believes on how the concepts "knowing" and
"believing" are related, do you? :-)
I believe that everything we do or think is based solely on "beliefs"
and value judgments. See "Lila" by the author of "Zen and the Art
of Motorcycle Maintaince" for a pretty good explaination on how I think
the Scientific Method, facts and beliefs relate.
Given your definition of "know" I don't see how the word can be used
at all.
Well, I don't know with perfect certainty, but I believe I can make
it to the coffee machine.
Bob
> Peter
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo.conf and boot up questions
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:21:55 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stearns28 wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggetions.
>
> I tried but had no luck with "man initrd". What does that line in lilo.conf
> do? Anyone?
/home/moorse>man -k initrd
initrd (4) - boot loader initialized RAM disk
mkinitrd (8) - creates initial ramdisk images for
preloading modules
pcinitrd (8) - create a PCMCIA initrd ram disk image
Nothing out of the ordinary, RH default uses a initial ram disk.
> Specifying init=/sbin/init at the lilo prompt did not start init either. The
> boot process still stopped after mounting just the root file systems in
> read-only mode, leaving me in a bash shell. It appeared as if none of the rc
> files were executed at all.
>
> I did not see any error message or anything out of the ordinary. The last
> messagese on the console were:
>
> "VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> change_root: old root has d_count=1
> Trying to unmount old root ...okay
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 60K freed"
>
> Something must be wrong. Was my server hacked? Any ideas/suggestions?
>
Could be.
Use a rescue disc, and see what happened to /sbin/init.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Very weird emacs initialization behaviour.
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:23:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
( sorry didn't get followed up to all newsgroups, so I report to the
other two ).
On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 02:32:45 GMT, Jay Lubomirski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Ok.. I don't know about anyone else, but I got lost in that...
>
Well. OK. Then let someone else answer. It's pretty clear from the
rest of your reply that you don't have a clue as to what is going on.
For those who might be able to answer let me rephrase what I said
before ( though I think it is clear what is going on, I think I could
sum it up better ).
One binary file /usr/bin/emacs-20.7. It reads my frame widths and
heights from my .emacs and sizes accordingly. Several other files
which are symbolic links to /usr/bin/emacs-20.7 or are symbolic links
to symbolic links etc. and which have the (local) name emacs
do not size according to my .emacs ( other properties are handled
properly ). When I copy /usr/bin/emacs-20.7 ( after removing
/usr/bin/emacs ) to /usr/bin/emacs and start emacs with the command
/usr/bin/emacs, it does not size properly. When I create a symbolic
link with a name other than emacs to /usr/bin/emacs, and start emacs
with that link it sizes properly.
To put it simply these is something unusual about the string "emacs"
whenever someone starts emacs with that name it fails to load my
properties, whenever I start emacs from a name different than "emacs"
it initialises correctly.
I've checked my ~/.Xdefaults and also /etc/X11/apps-default/Emacs
and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Emacs and those don't help.
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From: Mark Hewitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adjusting monitor refresh rate
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:27:29 +0000
I need to increase the display refresh rate as the screen I'm using is
flickering away like mad and it's giving me a headache.
I can't find what I need to do to just increase the refresh rate, can
anyone tell me how to do this.
Red Hat Linux 7.0
using Gnome.
Thanks
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:31:35 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : How can you know, think, affirm or deny anything if you don't
> : believe anything?
> : "The Earth is positivly, absolutly not flat", implies that I have some
> : beliefs concerning the shape of the Earth.
> : Please give me one example of a subject that I deny a statement,
> : but don't have any belief associated with it.
> You owe me $1000. Pay up. If you deny this, is that a new
> belief on your part that you didn't have before you read this
> post?
Sure is.
> Do I have the power create new beliefs in your mind by simply
> stating incredulous things in your presence?
Isn't that what learning from experience is all about?
I take what you say, process it and make a value judgment...
Owing you $1000 is very low quality, while owing you nothing
has a higher quality. At least as far financial quality goes.
A quick check of my ethical system ( moral quality )... Nope
can't make any value judgements that indicate I might be obligated
to you.
Check my charity systems... Nope don't have a good reson to give
you $1000 anyway.
So, I believe I don't owe you $1000. A brand new belief.
But here is the important part:
I don't "KNOW" that I don't owe you $1000. Your not a collection
agent from Citibank, are you? Long lost relative?
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
=============================================================================
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:49:32 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Cool,
> : I'm finally a Martian! All I have to do is get lots of
> : people to agree that they (and I) are too.
> Yes. Absolutely. And at that point, "Martian" would no
> longer mean "from the planet Mars". Definitions are arbitrary.
> That's how language works. The only trick is to avoid the
> false equivocation fallacies that would occur if you switched
> definitions in the middle of a discussion. Pick one and keep
> using it consistantly within a context.
Switched definitions is what I fear is happening with the
Atheist/Agnostic disscussion.
Sure definitions are arbitrary but, In my opinion, the definitions
of Athiest/Agnostic have been fairly stable for around 100 or so
years. Perhaps even longer.
I don't think it's good to allow a small group to change a definition
to suite it's agenda.
You'll nver find a "cracker" who says he ain't a "hacker".
It appears that some Atheist would rather redefine the situation
to make it look like the "others" have belief systems, while they
do not.
I think it might be related to the belief that Science is not a
set of beliefs.
Gosh too many belief's in one sentence!
> : What the majority of Martians say the definition is, it is.
> : Gotta go, I'll be in the street handing out little "Earn $1... You and I
> : are Martians, Right?" cards.
> : No arguments... you ain't a Martian.
> Assuming you can find some way to differentiate the members of your
> group from everyone else, go for it. Perhaps you all carry little
> cards, and then "Martian" would mean "guy who carries one of these
> cards."
--
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
=============================================================================
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
From: Mamata Desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:22:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.admin Richard Snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> So I'm wondering if there's any way to unpack or convert the
>> ISO-images to
>> individual files without having to burn a CD.
>> Or if anyone know of a site to download SuSE Linux 7 as a ZIP or
>> similar
>> archive file.
>From the CD-Writing-HOWTO:
3.1.2. Test the CD-image
Linux has the ability to mount files as if they were disk-partitions.
This feature is useful to check that the directory layout and file
access permissions of the CD-image matches your wishes. Although media
is very cheap today, the writing process is still time-consuming, and
you may at least want to save your time by doing a quick test.
To mount the file cd_image created above on the directory /cdrom, give
the command
mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 cd_image /cdrom
Now you can inspect the files under /cdrom - they appear exactly as
they were on a real CD. To umount the CD-image, just say umount
/cdrom.
--
Bye,
Mamata
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: security
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 06:54:32 -0500
Mike Mcclain wrote:
>
> Howdy Jim,
> I take it from your response that if I leave telnet and
> ftp in /etc/inetd.conf that this means others can login on my box.
> I thought I had to leave them on to ftp/telnet out. What I really
> think I want is akin to a telephone with no bell. I can call out
> but noone can call in.
> Is my logic broken?
I do not know about your logic, but I have trouble with your vocabulary.
Telnet is a great security leak because anything you do with telnet can
be sniffed by crackers on the Internet. In particular, everything you
type or anyone types to you can be sniffed, INCLUDING YOUR PASSWORDS. So
you surely want that off. (Use ssh if you need something like telnet.)
Likewise, if all you want to do is use ftp to bring information into
your machine, at your initiation, you do not need to run an ftp daemon
or even permit anyone to use it on your machine. So you can turn that
off also. If all you want to do is run ncftp, or one of its friends, you
can do that with both telnet and ftp off in your /etc/inetd.conf (and if
you have an ftp daemon running, you can, and probably should, turn that
off too, probably in the /etc/rc.d/rc?.d directories if you run a
distribution like Red Hat).
>
> -=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-
>
> JB> If you are going to allow logins and file transfers from the
> JB> Internet, I'd get rid of telnet and ftp as well, then set up ssh
> JB> (http://www.openssh.com/)
>
> JB> I'd look into a firewall using ipchains, or the new iptables. A web
> JB> search should turn up a *lot* of info on that subject.
>
> Herein lies the rub, I'm swamped with info about networking. Mc
>
> --- MultiMail/Linux v0.31
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 6:45am up 11 days, 15:13, 4 users, load average: 2.19, 3.08, 3.22
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From: Miguel Lastra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: firewall question
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:09:33 +0100
Hi all,
I just installed a firewall in a friend's Linux box. After that I
"atacked" that box with nessus. In the report I get, nessus advises me
to
"filter out the icmp timestamp requests (13), and the outgoing icmp
timestamp replies (14). "
I have tried to do that, but then the machine does no reply to any ping
request, How can I solve this ?
Thank you in advance
Miguel
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From: Tom Voltaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Backup Strategies for VMware virtual disk
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:08:05 GMT
I want to be sure I can restore my current win98 virtual disk
in my Vmware for Linux if i lose my linux partition. Which files or
directories need to be backed up, so I can simply restore my
win98 virtual disk in the event of a catastrophe?
I assume that I need to back up the files in the
/root/vmware/win98 partition. Any others?
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