Linux-Misc Digest #131, Volume #20 Sun, 9 May 99 18:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: HELP I can't connect to my ISP! ("Stuart HIrons")
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Matt Dillon)
Re: Linux and VMWare win95 (Vicente Mendez)
Re: Problems with looking up hostnames after upgrade ("Brady")
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Matthew Slowe)
Long file names in Linux? (Russell Tanton)
Re: Voodoo 3 PIC/AGP ? (David Rosenfield)
Re: Problems with looking up hostnames after upgrade ("Frederick W. Reimer, Sr.")
Re: SiS graphics chips & XFree86 (mike chase)
HELP I can't connect to my ISP! ("van Leur")
Re: TEST (Matthew Slowe)
16bpp vs 8bpp (Len Cuff)
Re: 16bpp vs 8bpp (Len Cuff)
Re: tar not working!? ("Andy Somerville")
Re: tell me linux---? ("SEATTLE")
Permission denied (Joseph Pamula)
Re: fvwm2 configuration question (jason)
Re: Installing Linux with Windows 9x (again!)... ("Stuart HIrons")
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (brian moore)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(Juergen Heinzl)
Re: RH to Debian --easiest way? ("David Z. Maze")
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From: "Stuart HIrons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP I can't connect to my ISP!
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:21:11 +0100
van Leur wrote in message <7h4o6p$l9d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have problems setting up an PPP-Conection to my ISP. When I try to
connect
>to my ISP, PPPD returns code 2 (???) or some other programs say the modem
>doesn't respond or can't initialize.
>My modem is connected to COM3 in DOS/WINDOWS and works fine in Windows.
>Linux should recognize my modem, because it once connected but the
>connection was broke after 2 minutes (I wasn't able to surf on the WWW). I
>used the programs KPPP (from The K Desktop Environment) and X-ISP. I'm new
>to linux so please help me!!!
>
Just replied to you once and got kicked back due to all the cross-posting,
but I will try again (no cross-posting)
Can you communicate with your modem in Linux using a terminal emulation type
package such as Seyon (under x windows), minicom etc etc ?
Seyon gives a 'fairly helpful' error message if there's a problem talking
to your modem.
I am just doing the same thing, have you checked that there is a /dev/modem
linked to the correct serial port (/dev/cua2 if you are using COM3)
If not, then remove any existing /dev/modem and run (as root) ln -s
/dev/cua2 /dev/modem
If this is OK, then check that the permissions are correct on /dev/cua2
By default only root has r/w access and everyone should have it. This can be
remedied by executing
(again, as root) chmod a+rw /dev/cua2
Hope this helps a little.......
Stuart
>Thanks
>
>Bram van Leur
>
>P.S. Sorry for my bad English. I'm from Holland
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Dillon)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: 9 May 1999 11:26:58 -0700
:In article <7gusho$sgd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:Vernon Schryver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:>In article <7gu33t$fnv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:>>>In this kind of situation, the hacks in inetd and sendmail to stop
:>>>listen()ing for new connections is a good, cheap, effective solution.
:>>
:>>Hmmm, that reminds me. I've seen sendmail do some horrible things
:>>when someone had a box configured to start a queue run every 30
:>>seconds then sent something to a huge list of addresses.
:>
:>Fools can break anything.
:>
:>The standard sendmail load limiting mechanism first stops running the
:>queue, and then at a higher load as measured by avenrun, turns off
:>listen(). The sendmail that used to be shipped by my former employer, a
:>major UNIX vendor, counted its own processes in addition to using avenrun,
:>because I felt avenrun responded too slowly...well, the real reason was
:>that when I first shipped sendmail, the kernel didn't know about
:>avenrun, but I still think it is a better idea than using only avenrun.
It should be noted that as of sendmail 8.6.x or 8.7.x, features submitted
by me were incorporated into the official distribution making it easy
to limit sendmail via the MaxDaemonChildren option. The new feature was
to simply make MaxDaemonChildren apply to queue-run forks as well as to
incoming connections.
What you then do is run two sendmail daemons: One -bd, and a second
one -q2m. Specify a different cf file or a different MaxDaemonChildren
option for each to limit the number of processes that can be forked
by incoming connections and, separately, to limit the number of processes
sendmail will fork to run the queue.
You then set the queueing mode to 'queue-only' for the daemon and the
result is a bullet-proof mail system. The worst that can happen is
that an attack or extreme mail load will cause higher mail latencies,
NOT take the machine down. You specify MaxDaemonChildren values such
that the worst-case will load the machine down significantly but not
topple it over.
Load-based limiting does not work. It never did. The problems with
load-based limits are generally due to the fact that it takes a bit of
time for the load average to react to a situation ( such as an attack ).
By the time it does, the system is already dead.
The same sort of thing can be applied to a web server to prevent the
machine from self-destructing during an attack or unusual load conditions.
-Matt
--
Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet
Communications
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Please include original email in any response)
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From: Vicente Mendez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and VMWare win95
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 12:50:34 -0700
Try setting up networking in host only mode and then set up IP Masquerading on
your linux machine. First make sure that your vmware can talk to the linux
host, ie telnet, ping, etc. You then set up masquerading. The way you do this
depends on your kernel. The 2.0 kernels use the ipfwadm utility, while the 2.2
kernels use ipchains. Browse through the How-To list.
Vicente
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have gotten Win95 to run through VMWare on my P200MMX (slowly, but
> running). However, I also need Win95 to be connected to the net. I currently
> have a PPP connection (on ppp0), so I only have one real IP address. I think
> that I need a proxy server in order for me to be able to use fake IP
> addresses, but I am not sure as to how to set that up. I got the SOCKS5
> server, but could not find any docs that showed me how to do what I wanted to
> do. Also, in windows, I need to set up the virtual ethernet card correctly as
> well as the TCP/IP protocol, and I do not know how to do that (all the DNS,
> IP, WINS, etc stuff). Could someone please tell me how to do all this, or
> refer me to a page somewhere which tells me how to do what I want to do.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ilia Mirkin
>
> --
> The truth is out there.
> Anyone know the URL?
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: "Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problems with looking up hostnames after upgrade
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 19:30:48 GMT
it might be a reverse dns problem. is /etc/resolv.conf setup ok?? are u
trying to limit access to the server with tcp wrappers?? It works fine for
me in this way and I have 3.6
Brady
Gambit32 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> we recently upgraded from slackware 3.1 to 3.6, and now our machine is
> having severe problems getting hosts from ips.
>
> TCP wrappers should give out the username@host when we connect to our
> server, but that doesnt work. it gives usernam@ip.
>
> In my perl scripts and includes on my web page
> (http://www.academic.marist.edu/carob/) it should be saying came from
> host / ip but that doesnt work either.
>
> Even more peculiar, we have listings in /etc/hosts like
> 148.100.215.108 area51.groom-lake.nv.us area51
> When i connect to the machine, it used to say
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but it wont even do THAT anymore.
>
> I have no idea exactly where the problem is. Ive checked the kernel,
> my perl scripts, ive recompiled my wrapper program. im just lost!
>
> PLEASE anyone who can help. PLEASE.
>
>
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From: Matthew Slowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:24:08 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows) writes:
>
>> There is one other difference - a higher rate of miscarriage since YY
>> is not genetically viable IIRC. This might not be noticeable though,
>
>There's an awful lot of critical stuff on the X chromosome, much of
>which doesn't exist on the Y (which is basically an X that lost big
>chunks of itself a long time ago and diverged from there). Hence anyone
>with a chromosome matchinng [^X]*Y* is pretty much dead.[1] Early
>miscarriage time.
>
>[1] Assuming we put all the Xs before the Ys, I can't be bothered to
> improve the regexp.
>
Sure you don't want to xpost to bionet.genome.chromosomes ?? ;)
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Russell Tanton)
Subject: Long file names in Linux?
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 20:30:25 GMT
How do I configure Linux to use long file names? (i.e.- so everything
does not get cut off at filenum~1)
Rusty
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rosenfield)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Voodoo 3 PIC/AGP ?
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 20:32:08 GMT
On Fri, 07 May 1999 17:21:10 +0200, Edmondo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Bruce Stephens wrote:
>>
>> I don't know. I can confirm it works fine for the cheap V3 2000 PCI.
>
>It works fine with my V3 3000 AGP too.
>
>edmondo
Yes, I have a V3 2000 PCI and it worked fine with Redhat 6.0 and
Slackware 4.0 beta.
-D
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From: "Frederick W. Reimer, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problems with looking up hostnames after upgrade
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 12:44:05 -0400
I don't know anything about Slackware 3.6, but you may want to check for
a nsswitch.conf file in the /etc directory. In later versions of most
distributions, the nsswitch.conf file is used to tell the resolver
libraries which name resolution methods it should use and in which
order. Options include, but are not limited to, DNS, hosts files, and
NIS. If you have this file, then the bet is that Slackware 3.6 DOES use
this file. Look for a line starting with hosts: and make sure that it
has 'files' as one of the options, preferably the first.
Then, check out your /etc/resolv.conf if your nsswitch.conf had that as
one of the options (your computer wouldn't use DNS at all if it wasn't
listed). Make sure your domain and nameservers are set appropriately.
Slackware MAY keep backup copies of all configuration files and write
new "blank" ones when you do an upgrade, much like RedHat saves old
configs in .rpmsave files. If this is the case, you're computer may
APPEAR to be working fine, but chances are you will need to do a find of
all files ending in whatever Slackware may save the old configs as and
manually upgrade the configs to your old settings...
HTH,
Fred
Gambit32 wrote:
>
> we recently upgraded from slackware 3.1 to 3.6, and now our machine is
> having severe problems getting hosts from ips.
>
> TCP wrappers should give out the username@host when we connect to our
> server, but that doesnt work. it gives usernam@ip.
>
> In my perl scripts and includes on my web page
> (http://www.academic.marist.edu/carob/) it should be saying came from
> host / ip but that doesnt work either.
>
> Even more peculiar, we have listings in /etc/hosts like
> 148.100.215.108 area51.groom-lake.nv.us area51
> When i connect to the machine, it used to say
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" but it wont even do THAT anymore.
>
> I have no idea exactly where the problem is. Ive checked the kernel,
> my perl scripts, ive recompiled my wrapper program. im just lost!
>
> PLEASE anyone who can help. PLEASE.
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From: mike chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SiS graphics chips & XFree86
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 20:38:30 +0100
In article <hbvGWpJm#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, brian l <blyc@regis-
intl.com> writes
>Hello.
>
>A lot of people have had a lot of trouble with getting SiS cards to work.
>I myself managed to get a SiS530 (or that's what it claimed to be) built
>into a PC-CHIPS 100mhz motherboard to work beyond a 320x200 resoultion only
>with a little bit of help several other people.
>
>Brian Lycett.
>
>
>
I'd be pretty interested in hearing how you managed to do it, I've been
trying for ages to get X to run without any luck with an onboard sis530
chip on A PC-CHIPS motherboard. What version of X are you running?
Thanks for any light that you may be able to shed.
--
mike chase
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From: "van Leur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,nl.comp.os.linux,worldonline.linux
Subject: HELP I can't connect to my ISP!
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:38:10 +0200
I have problems setting up an PPP-Conection to my ISP. When I try to connect
to my ISP, PPPD returns code 2 (???) or some other programs say the modem
doesn't respond or can't initialize.
My modem is connected to COM3 in DOS/WINDOWS and works fine in Windows.
Linux should recognize my modem, because it once connected but the
connection was broke after 2 minutes (I wasn't able to surf on the WWW). I
used the programs KPPP (from The K Desktop Environment) and X-ISP. I'm new
to linux so please help me!!!
Thanks
Bram van Leur
P.S. Sorry for my bad English. I'm from Holland
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From: Matthew Slowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TEST
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:26:57 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nguyen Dai Quy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>This is only a test.
>--
>Quy
>
This will change your life!
Dear:
[X] Clueless Newbie [ ] Loser
[ ] indy.netter
[ ] Me too'er [ ] Pervert [ ] Geek
[ ] Spammer [ ] Nerd [ ] Elvis
[ ] Fed [ ] Freak [ ] FLAMENET
[ ] AOLer/Euronetter/PIer/MSNetter
[ ] Other: Unbearably self-righteous person
You Are Being Flamed Because:
[ ] You posted a message in a newsgroup other than your topic
[ ] You posted a binary in pieces LESS than 5000 lines
[ ] You posted a binary in a non-binaries group
[ ] You quoted an ENTIRE post in your reply
[ ] You continued a long, stupid thread
[ ] You started an off-topic thread
[ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message
[ ] You said "me too" to something or "Send ______"
[ ] You don't know which group to post in
[ ] You suck
[ ] You brag about things that never happened
[ ] Your sig/alias/server sucks
[ ] You posted a (phone-sex or a make money fast) ad
[ ] You posted something totally uninteresting
[ ] You crossposted
[ ] You posted a message all written in CAPS
[ ] You posted racist shit
[ ] I don't like your tone of voice
[ ] I think you might be a member of CO$
[ ] I think you might be a fed
[ ] You advertised me something not available in the UK
[ ] You junkmailed me
[X] You posted a 'TEST' message
To Repent, You Must:
[ ] Give up your AOL/Euronet/MSN/Planet Internet account
[ ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
[ ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
[x] Actually post something relevant
[x] Read the f****** FAQ
[ ] Be Pat Buchanan's love slave
[ ] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month
[ ] Apologize to everybody in this newsgroup
[ ] Post your tests to alt.test/misc.test
In Closing, I'd Like to Say:
[ ] Blow me
[ ] Bite me
[x] Get a life
[ ] Never post again
[x] I pity your dog
[ ] Go to hell
[ ] I think your IQ must be 7
[ ] Take your s*** somewhere else
[ ] Learn to post or f*** off
[ ] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment
[ ] See how far your tongue will fit into the electric outlet
[ ] All of the above
--
Matthew Slowe
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 16bpp vs 8bpp
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:51:50 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have just changed mobo and have a SiS 6326 installed. Question is, it
always defaults to 8bpp when I want 16bpp. As I can't user XF86config
(it hangs the machine), I've had to go back to XF86Config. Got it
working again but I need to find out where the default bpp is being set.
All is fine if I enter startx -- -bpp 16.
Cheers,
Len
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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 16bpp vs 8bpp
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:49:28 +0100
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <hylZ2.5227$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Dahler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>> I have just changed mobo and have a SiS 6326 installed. Question is, it
>> always defaults to 8bpp when I want 16bpp. As I can't user XF86config
>> (it hangs the machine), I've had to go back to XF86Config. Got it
>> working again but I need to find out where the default bpp is being set.
>> All is fine if I enter startx -- -bpp 16.
>
>I'm kind of a newbie myself, but using XF86Setup works much better than
>XF86Config for me. XF86Setup is a GUI rather than the text-based XF86Config
>program. When you run XF86Setup, you can set which mode you want to be the
>default (i.e., 8bpp or 16bpp, etc.), and you can't seem to do that using
>XF86Config.
>
>
Sorry I made a mistake in the original post. My machine locks up when I
run XF86Setup so I, sort of stuck with XF86Config until a version comes
out which will work with the 6326 chipset.
Cheers,
Len
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From: "Andy Somerville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar not working!?
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 20:52:07 +0100
What device are you trying to back up to ?
Can you do a tar -cvf as a disk to disk back up ?
Andy
Emma Svensson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Background:
> 1.tar was working fine on my RH5.2 installation
> 2.I muck around with the system
> 3.tar + lots of other things does not work anymore
> 4.I decide to install RH6.0 from scratch
> 5.Everything is working fine except TAR!!
>
> When I run tar with the --help option it spits out what it is supposed
> to, but when I try to actually extract something it just sits there
> doing NOTHING!
> I tried with a clean .tar archive (no .gz) also. Same thing.
>
> How can this be?
> Since I installed RH6.0 from scratch it cant be my desctructive
> influence that has killed it.
> Is it some new version of some software combined with my hardware or
> what?
> Im totally clueless...
>
> /jef
>
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From: "SEATTLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tell me linux---?
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:39:32 -0600
Try this site..Tutorials ( Linux ) & More
HTH
http://home.att.net/~aubreyb
Click the linux link
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From: Joseph Pamula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Permission denied
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 16:58:00 -0400
Hi!
When I issue the following command: su "user name" I get the
following:
su: cannot run /bin/bash
I am using RedHat 5.1
Could someone please help me out.
Thanks...
Joseph
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fvwm2 configuration question
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:02:46 -0400
"Joshua C. Marshall" wrote:
>
> How can I persistently change WM settings like "AutoRaise"?
> I tried putting "AutoRaise 200" into ~/.fvwm2rc.init, and tried tweaking
> /etc/X11/AnotherLevel/fvwm2rc.*, but got no results.
>
> cc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks
I think you need to have the FvwmAuto module installed, then put the following
lines in your .fvwm2rc file:
AddToFunc "InitFunction" "I" Module FvwmAuto 250
AddToFunc "RestartFunction" "I" Module FvwmAuto 250
Also, make sure the module path is correct in your .fvwm2rc just in case.
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: "Stuart HIrons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux with Windows 9x (again!)...
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 20:58:14 +0100
Graeme Fenwick wrote in message ...
>Once you've let the sensation of d�ja-vu wash over you, you might realise
>that I originally posted this question about a month ago- namely, what's
the
>best way to install Linux without risking the W95 installation (and more
>importantly, the data) on my existing drive? And, no, I don't have a backup
>device :-(
>
>David Martin had suggested buying a second hard drive and installing it on
>that. There are two problems with this...
> - Firstly, how would I go about this? Most guides to installing Linux
>seem to assume that you'll be installing it on an existing drive, and my
>knowledge of PC hardware isn't good enough to fathom the solution to this
on
>my own...
> - Secondly, the cost. Buying a brand-new hard drive would cost �80+ for
>the cheapest, and I don't reckon I'd need one that big anyway. At the other
>end of the scale are the old drives (10-120Mb) that could probably be got
>for next to nothing- no good unfortunately, as I've worked out that 0.5Mb
is
>really the smallest workable solution. Is there a good (general) source of
>drives in that range, at a reasonable price?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
I had the same problem as you, 6.4gb HD with 800mb already used with Win95
(ugh).
So I risked the whole installation and used FIPS, a free tool which enables
use to non-destructively partition your hard drive. It requires that you
have a done a 'defrag' first to move all your data to the 'start' of your
HD, then you can split a partition how you like (subject to a few rules).
So I split a single FAT32 partition of 6.4gb into 5.2gB and 1.2gB (roughly).
Then ran linux 'fdisk' on the 1.2gB partition to create linux native and
small swap partitions.
FIPS worked fine. It isn't guaranteed however, but I risked it........
It will handle both FAT and FAT32 partitions.
For more info, see http://www.igd.fhg.de/~aschaefe/fips/fips.html
Stuart
> - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (Don't forget to remove "BYESPAM" filter if replying by mail)
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: 9 May 1999 21:01:31 GMT
On Sun, 09 May 1999 14:07:20 GMT,
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.hardware William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On 6 May 1999 17:56:39 GMT,
> : brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : >I think your time would be better spent on dealing with real privacy
> : >issues, such as WebTV's reporting of TV viewing habits and what
> : >Microsoft (owners of WebTV, after all) will do if they manage to get
> : >WinCE into cable boxes.
>
> : WinCE is going into cable boxes, AT&T is all buddy-buddy with MS now.
>
> not cable modems and headends, to my knowledge. there's no way wince
> is strong enough to support docsis requirements (for example).
Um, actually, DOCSIS is pretty simple (at least the IP side of things ..
the RF side is a bit trickier). But, yes, there is no cable modem
headend or modem that is using WinCE at present. (The only
CableLabs-approved headend is the Cisco UBR, and many of the cable
modems themselves are actually using boards designed by Cisco.)
However, the cable -boxes- (ie, the thing you need for Pay-Per-View and
other 'enhanced services' such as 'Digital TV') are another thing
entirely. That's where WinCE is trying to go, and that's why a WinCE
based box could quite easily phone home as the WebTV boxes do, reporting
viewing habits to Microsoft.
Microsoft has even boasted of this when they announced their snooping
with WebTV: they said that getting such information in real time with a
two-way cable system would be a huge bonus for them. (Never mind that
any clued cable company would run in terror from such a thing, since
it's very questionable legally and highly illegal to give out the data
on a customer's viewing habits.)
> webtv isn't 'cable modem' technology - its a rather ugly hack.
No one said it was. A "cable box" isn't a "cable modem." If it were, I
would have said "cable modem."
These are the boxes that (at the moment) are made by companies such as
General Instruments, Zenith and Scientific Atlanta. It's where MS is
desperately trying to go, to the tune of investing five billion dollars
into AT&T to get AT&T to agree to us WinCE based boxes more. (The other
player trying to get into the biz is Sun, who is pushing Jini to use as
the OS for the same basic boxes.) The newer current boxes do use IP:
they tunnel it through an MPEG stream so that each box is indivdually
addressable.
This is the next big fight for Microsoft: it will make the so-called
"browser wars" look tame if they DOJ isn't able to kick them into
behaving. Even with the DOJ watching them right now, Microsoft is STILL
able to use it's monopoly power in one area (desktop OS) to seek a
monopoly in another (cable box controllers).
Microsoft's behavior in the world of computers will repeat itself in
the world of CATV. Expect to see things like a "MS-TV Channel Guide"
where companies like Disney that brown-nose Microsoft get better
placement than companies that don't. And if Disney talks to the
competition, Microsoft will quickly remove them from the channel guide
as they threatened to do when Disney talked to Netscape about
placement on Netcenter.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:44:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Keats wrote:
>In article <7h2kdh$7aj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) writes:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>>
>>>On 08 May 1999 10:34:40 +0200,
>>> Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In Linux, lots is happening on the desktop, easy-to-use sysadm tools
>>>> etc. Other Unices such as FreeBSD may profit a bit from that.
>[yadda yadda]
>>
>> You know, there's nothing more amusing than seeing these freebsd guys trying
>> to comment on something [the linux kernal development process for instance]
>> which they clearly don't understand.
>
>At least we know how to spell "kernel", if nuffin' else <g> <wink>
More and more kernel hackers around here ... must be the spring >8->
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH to Debian --easiest way?
Date: 09 May 1999 17:34:35 -0400
Barry Kauler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BK> I know there's a HOWTO somewhere for changing a
BK> system from RH to Debian, but it looked complicated.
BK> As I only have a few wordprocessor and graphics data
BK> files to be kept, if I back them up to floppies, is it really
BK> simple to just erase everything and install Debian?
Yes. You can tell the Debian installer to not bother repartitioning
your hard drive, but to go ahead and put new filesystems on. It's not
really all that different or any harder from installing Debian from
scratch.
BK> I've got one 4.3G hard drive, with one 2G DOS partition, one
BK> extended partition -- which has Linux in 3 logical partitions
BK> -- could I just use fdisk to wipe the logical partitions?
You could, or you could just install Debian in new filesystems on the
existing partitions.
BK> I suppose it would be correct to uninstall lilo from the mbr also.
Part of the Debian installation process will reinstall LILO. (By
default, though, it installs LILO on the Linux partition, with a
special not-too-featureful boot loader going in the MBR.)
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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