Linux-Misc Digest #226, Volume #19 Sun, 28 Feb 99 07:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Managing X windows (Germ)
Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)) (Graffiti)
Re: PPP setup (jik-)
weird ext2 problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jik-)
Re: XFSTT & emacs: No fonts match... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
copy from old_fs to new_fs ("Georges Heinesch")
Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion (Francois-Rene Rideau)
Re: special characters in UNIX how? (Hans Wolters)
Re: XFSTT & emacs: No fonts match... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jik-)
Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion (Francois-Rene Rideau)
Re: Looking for a cross-compiler (javierlt)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Johan Kullstam)
special characters in UNIX how? (Joel Wijngaarde)
Re: Anti-Virus for Linux (John Thompson)
Win 95 Loadlin ("Lee Howes")
checking installed rpms (Robert Land)
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:44:26 -0600
One of you guys evoke Hitler and kill this thread, or take to private
email.
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From: Germ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Managing X windows
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:40:13 -0500
>> Paul Davies wrote:
>> > I generally have alot of xwindows open during my development session and
>> > find them hard to manage.
>> >
>> > Are there any tools available which allow you to 'tile' or 'cascade' the x
>> > windows so they are easy to manage?
[snip]
>> I use AfterStep. I have relatively few windows on any given screen. But I have
>> six screens that can be accessed thru a pager, by moving the mouse across the
>> boundary, or by clicking on the winlist. It's a very fine way to manage
>> multiple windows. Using a single screen is very limiting.
>> Check out: http://www.afterstep.org
>> Enjoy...
>This is a function of your window manager. Recent versions of FVWM2
>can do this with the FvwmRearrange module. I'd be surprised if other
>window managers (e.g. AfterStep, WindowMaker, Enlightenment) didn't
>have similar functionality.
They do. WindowMaker(IMHO the most complete and usable) has a cascade
and E has like 30-something desktops(but no pager as of E.14) along with
a "sweep" function. Also, you may want to play with the various "feels"
of the the window focus. I usually use "sloppy" focus.
</Germ>
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From: Graffiti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD compatability (Was Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?))
Date: 28 Feb 1999 01:51:38 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>There's much more. Many new linux programmers who do not have
>Unix programming experience just do things like "#include <linux/asm.h>"
>because it looks "kewl". Needless to say that these things are
>usually totally unnecessary (like "linux/tcp.h" or similar, which
>I've seen in quite a few linux programs) and completely unportable.
If they're new to programming, then don't worry. They'll learn and
start writing portable code if for no other reason than maintainability.
Otherwise, well, would you really trust code from those who write code
because it's "kewl"?
I started with writing quite a few GNU/Linux/Slackware specific code
because that was the only environment I could test code on. It took
me a while working with NetBSD, Solaris, and SunOS 4 before I was
confident that code I wrote would be portable.
Since my home machine was Linux-only, I couldn't test it on non-Linux
platforms where I do most of my development. (home)
>It's a shame that you have to invest a lot of time (if you succeed
>at all) in porting a Linux-developed X11 game to a different platform
>due to such nonsense while the game itself uses only X11 and plain C
>and perhaps some basic tcp/ip and such should be inherently portable;
>just because the programmer had no clue about portability at all
>and is living in his linux-only bowl.
>The situation becomes worse when the program in question is something
>you might need to get some serious job done.
I'm sure those people would be more than happy to learn how to write
portable code. All they have to do is spend $100000e^inf on a few
UNIX workstations so they can run Solaris, HP/UX, SCO, AIX, MVS (Yes,
it has UNIX branding), SINIX, ....
While it is true many brands of UNIX and the hardware they run on are
fairly cheap these says (used computers), expecting a lot of the
high-school aged kids who live off a minimum-wage job or an allowance
to go out and buy them to "learn UNIX" is a bit unrealistic. :-)
Quite often, the people writing non-portable, Linux-only code do it for
one of two reasons:
1) They don't have access to a non-Linux mahcine.
2) They just started playing with Linux, and have no idea what
portability is.
Either way, why not cut them some slack? Point out where the code is
non-portable to them. Make suggestions. Soon, they'll realise how
valuable being able to write portable programs are, and they'll learn.
If not, their programs probably aren't that useful, anyways.
>As a sidenote (of course completely subjective) I find Motif a nice
>looking toolkit (CDE, as an integrated luser interface is kindof ugly
>though). Motif (and OpenLook aswell) at least don't look that much
>like the Windoze95+ look, which fashion-guis-of-the-month like kde
>and gnome/gtk seem to like so much..
KDE? I thought the look-and-feel of it was pretty much stable. As for
GTK/GNOME, you're comparing pre-1.0 stuff to stuff that's been around for
years. When put in that kind of perspective, it's impressive, no? :-)
-- DN
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP setup
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:22:33 -0800
Rocco Dimase wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > I have managed to get most of PPP to work under X Windows using
> > Linuxconf, but I still need to go to a shell and type "route add default
> > ppp0" before I can use Netscape Communicator or even do a ping. Surely I
> > shoulld also be able to set this up via Linuxconf, there is something
> > about routes in Linuxconf but they don't seem to allow Netscape
> > Communicator to work.
Then dump linuxconf into /dev/null and do it the correct way.....by
hand.
Read the ISP-HOOKUP-HOWTO, forget Redhat's stupid control panel, it
didn't work for mine either....the HOWTO will take you step by step
through the entire process of connecting to an ISP. Then your box will
work.
If your script hangs before it gets Login: (or whatever asking for your
username) then put a blank send, that should get it to go.
Use minicom to figure out what your script should be.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: weird ext2 problem
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:04:49 GMT
I have an ext2 root filesystem which has suddenly (about
2pm this afternoon) started showing zero available space,
despite the fact that it is not full up and I can still write
things to it. I ran fsck and remounted and obvious things.
Can anyone explain why it does this, and if it is serious?
Thanks,
Mark.
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 02:24:30 -0800
Stephe wrote:
>
> jik- wrote:
> >
> >
> > Then you get into what we don't have.....I know of one thing which is
> > available for Win95 that hasn't even been worked on in Linux.....There
> > is a tool made by Fluke which is used for diagnostics on the newer (not
> > so much anymore :P) computerised cars. This tool will talk to win95 and
> > you can put the information it talks about into a database on the
> > computer...then transfered here, there,....all over, shared online...its
> > a fuckin killer tool.
> >
>
> But for who?
Only about 1/2 the mechanics in the country. My dad trades his scope
pics around all the time....or whatever it is he trades, but it is from
this tool.
I'm a pro mechanic and have learned these "self
> diagnosing" cars are more likely to lead you on a wild goose
> chase than to actually point you in the right direction..
This is not a "self diagnostic car tool", it is a tool for diagnosing
computerised cars.
Yes
> there are alot of cool apps missing from linux (I miss kai's
> photosoap) but a "car diagnostic link" is a huge waste of time
> IMHO..
Well, it may be for you, but this is the kind of tool linux needs. This
is why REAL (I mean non-techies) buy thier computers....to fill some
need. You think writing 500 different text editors/IRC clients is less
of a waste of time???? I mean, thats what most linux development is.
I think maybe you have missed the big picture. Linux needs applications
for real people, why else would they use it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFSTT & emacs: No fonts match...
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:55:54 GMT
In article <79sc21$o7o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> fonts! e.g.
>
> emacs -fn "-*-courier new-bold-r-normal-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1"
>
> yields "No fonts match '-*-courier new-...'"
> I also tried to use the resource emacs.font: in the .Xdefaults file
> without success.
>
> I hope that anybody can tell me, what I'm doing wrong.
>
> -Hans
>
I have the similar problem with with xemacs 20.4xx
I tried to set in ~/Emacs
Emacs.bold-italic.attributeFont: "-ttf-courier \ #line isn't really split
new-bold-i-normal--*-120-*-koi8-r"
and it doesn't work. And it shows some default fonts in Options->Browse faces
with encoding iso8859-1
If I set
Emacs.bold-italic.attributeFont: -*-*-bold-i-normal--*-120-*-koi8-r
Emacs.bold-italic.attributeFont: -cronyx-*-bold-i-normal--*-120-*-koi8-r
Emacs.bold-italic.attributeFont: -cronyx-courier-bold-i-normal--*-120-*-koi8-r
- fonts not from xfstt
then all works and corresponding fonts are shown
in the Options->Browse faces
My conclusion is that (x)emacs wants courier font.
Does anybody know how to make some kind of aliasing with xfstt
to make courier point to courier new. I even
don't know how contact the author ;-)
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Date: 28 Feb 99 11:25:54 +0100
From: "Georges Heinesch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: copy from old_fs to new_fs
I have installed a new harddisk and would like to copy my old_fs to
this bigger new_fs. However I encountered several problems.
1. dump and restore doesn't exist on Linux (unlike NetBSD).
2. using tar with a pipe, the new_fs is copied recursively.
If I boot the old_fs, mount the new_fs in /mnt/new_fs and say ...
cd /
tar -cf - . | (cd /mnt/new_fs ; tar -xpf -)
... the /mnt/new_fs is copied recursively.
Besides this, the /proc "files" are copied, which is not correct
either.
What is the correct procedure to copy an entire fs to another?
--
Cu Georges Heinesch, Luxembourg
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http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/2480
PGP 2.6.3i / 5.1i public key on request and on public servers
... Only happy at FL 370, Mach 0.74
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From: Francois-Rene Rideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion
Date: 28 Feb 1999 12:12:09 +0100
Kristofor Wiklund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> That's the typical fascist approach to programming:
>> when a wrong is possible, build a barrier to FORBID the wrong,
> No that's avoid the General Protection Fault(and other problems) smart
> programming approach.
How does �K remove *any* GPF? HURD is *much more* unstable than Linux!
On the contrary, the protection barriers make things more complex
and more bug-prone; they make consistency more difficult to achieve.
Because all they do is FORBID, without ENABLING.
>> making things even more difficult without solving any real problem,
>> by forcing you to explicitly enforce your implicit assumptions.
> Wouldn't you say preventing system corruption solving a real problem?
�K architecture does NOT prevent any system corruption.
If you want to prevent system corruption, use a strongly typed language:
languages of the LISP and ML families, Modula-3, Oberon, have all been
successfully used in "kernels", guaranteeing absence of memory corruption,
for an overhead less (because mostly folded out at compile-time)
than that of managing multiple address spaces at runtime.
Of *course* there are escapes towards lower-level languages where needed
(ever heard about inline assembly in C? ever seen how they are
well integrated under Linux yet well separated from the rest of code?).
>> The libertarian approach is to ENABLE the good, and make it easy:
>> have a high-level language and a type-system that ALLOW you to
>> explicitly express your constraints and implicitly enforce them.
>> These are OPPOSITE approaches to programming, and to life.
> And just what the hell does this have to do with the kernel of an
> operating system?
Get a CLUE, dude! It has to do with designs that get in the way
versus design that make things simpler, and applies to kernel design
as well as to any other software design.
>> If you want to program in a concurrent object model,
>> don't hand-emulate clumsily with explicit C code that polls and forks:
>> use a concurrent programming language, with an efficient compiler: [...]
>>> [a �K] does add complexity
>> Yes, and that's all it does.
>> Spell it after me: ABSTRACTION INVERSION.
> An improperly used microkernel can be disasterous,
There is no proper use.
> but bad kernel modules also cause problems.
Of course. Just because �K is evil does not mean lack of �K solves it all.
It's just like all evil ideas. Let's take communism, for instance.
Just because you discard the evil idea isn't enough to make you happy;
but as long as you keep the idea, you're guaranteed to be unhappy.
So, kernel modules are difficult to do right?
Instead of FORBIDding, ENABLE: use languages and tools
that help you do it right by implicitly managing difficulties for you.
> I won't say the microkernel is the future
> of all operating systems, but I will say the microkernel is a concept
> well worth investigating.
Your whole argument is "I don't know". Well, then, don't ponder, LISTEN!
Some people have fine developed arguments, grok them. Find possible errors.
But don't you "I don't know thus you shouldn't" me!
> It is also important to state that there are
> multiple approaches to working with microkernel.
That's a non-argument! There are multiple approaches to anything.
For instance, for any approach to working with �K,
there is a corresponding approach to explaining
why that particular kind of �K is bad!
That's the whole point of universal reasoning.
> Problems found in one
> approach do not necessarily apply to all approaches(especially those
> that may not have been considered yet).
Again a "I don't know thus you shouldn't" argument.
Well, I gave explanations that account for every and all �K designs.
Try understanding them. I'd *gladly* welcome a counter-example,
or any other *constructive* criticism.
But, man, I truely hate your fallacious argument AD IGNORANTUM.
URL again:
http://www.tunes.org/papers/Glossary/index.html#microkernel
http://www.tunes.org/papers/Glossary/index.html#abstractioninversion
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: special characters in UNIX how?
Date: 28 Feb 1999 11:14:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:01:58 +0100, Joel Wijngaarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>does somebody know how you can do special charters in Linux like an 'e'
>or an 'u' with two points on top. In Windows such things are done with
>the ALT xxx keys.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Joel
>
>--
>Joel Wijngaarde (Physics student)
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Joel,
You will need to redifine your Keyboard. If you only need it with X based
programs then checkout Xkeycaps (You can find a link at freshmeat).
Groeten/Regards Hans Wolters
--
Java Search Engine Front End
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: XFSTT & emacs: No fonts match...
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:09:47 GMT
In article <79sc21$o7o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But I cannot make emacs (GNU emacs 20.3.1) to use the true type
> fonts! e.g.
>
> emacs -fn "-*-courier new-bold-r-normal-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1"
>
> yields "No fonts match '-*-courier new-...'"
> I also tried to use the resource emacs.font: in the .Xdefaults file
> without success.
>
> I hope that anybody can tell me, what I'm doing wrong.
>
> -Hans
My previos post about xemacs and courier new was wrong now it works if I have
the following in $HOME/Emacs Emacs.default.attributeFont: -ttf-courier \ # no
break here new-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-koi8-r
Emacs.bold-italic.attributeFont: -ttf-courier
new-bold-i-normal--*-120-*-koi8-r Emacs.bold.attributeFont: -ttf-courier
new-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-koi8-r Emacs.italic.attributeFont: -ttf-courier
new-medium-i-normal--*-120-*-koi8-r
I shouldn't put "" in resource specification as they are not understood
while spaces are handled well without them
Don't know if it will work with FSF emacs
Konstantin
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 02:27:59 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hehehe... If I had a good printer, and a book on TeX, I'd learn it... =)
>
> I've heard that TeX is a markup language, like HTML, but without hyper-
> text... is this correct?
No, it is not correct. It is a document description language, like
PostScript.
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From: Francois-Rene Rideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microkernels are an abstraction inversion
Date: 28 Feb 1999 12:41:17 +0100
Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there something about microkernels that FORBIDS people from adding code
> to the kernel itself, rather than writing servers? I don't think so. It's
> just not encouraged.
Yes, there's something: the �K design.
If you add to the kernel, then you're not doing a �K anymore,
and you its unused mechanisms are revealed to be just what they are:
bloat that gets in the way.
In as much as you follow the design,
it FORBIDs services from seamlessly interoperating.
In as much as you don't, it's dead code that bloats your design.
All in all, it's EVIL.
http://www.tunes.org/papers/Glossary/index.html#microkernel
> However, I do appreciate your point of view.
Thanks.
> One of my favorite systems was the Symbolics Lisp Machine,
> which is the polar opposite of a microkernel --
Yeah, I know: I lurk on comp.lang.lisp, too.
*Too bad* LispM's are evil proprietary software;
they were rightfully punished, but so are we.
The problem is: proprietary code, however great technically, is dead code.
[And using proprietary software is thus akin to necrophilia].
We DO need reimplement all these things as free software!
BTW, I have written an essay that explains why the proprietary software market
has systematically excluded high-level solutions like Lisp machines
for low-level "solutions" like C machines (or �K design):
http://www.tunes.org/~fare/articles/ll99/index.en.html
> the entire environment, both system and user code, is a
> single monolithic Lisp address space (it has things called "processes", but
> they're like what we now call threads).
> Reliability was achieved through
> the use of Lisp as the implementation language; it doesn't have explicit
> pointers (although they added pointer-like objects for use by low-level OS
> code, so it's possible to bypass the abstractions if you try hard, but at
> least these pointers interacted with the GC properly) and garbage
> collection prevented most dangling pointer problems.
I yearn for such a system.
> A number of "modern" operating systems, like MacOS and Windows 9X, are
> monolithic like this, but since they, and their applications, are written
> in less safe languages we suffer from many memory management bugs that can
> take down the entire system.
Indeed. The problem is in the programming language.
Requiring the system programmer to emulate, by hand, in C,
a strongly typed concurrent agent programming model,
and shooting him if he makes the slightest mistakes,
is not only a REAL STUPID design decision, it's also deeply EVIL.
The solution is, again:
to achieve a system that follows the above mentionned model,
use a strongly typed concurrent agent programming language! [duh!]
JOCAML, Kali Scheme, CML, *LISP, MultiLISP, MultiScheme,
OCAML or SML (with threads), Modula-3, Oberon, and many other!
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that anyone has authority to decide who these superior people are.
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From: javierlt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Looking for a cross-compiler
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:31:49 +0000
brian moore wrote:
> > > And wich platform would you like to target?
> > >
> >
> > OpenLinux in an intel pc (pentium)
>
> Um, your post says:
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586)
>
> So why would you need a cross compiler? Why not just a plain old
> compiler? (It should have come with your system.)
>
gcc doesn�t work in my system. When try to run a configure script the
error is:
....................
configure:1393: checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works
configure:1407: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c 1>&5
configure:1427: checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a
cross-compiler
configure:1432: checking whether we are using GNU C
configure:1456: checking whether gcc accepts -g
configure:1488: checking for c++
configure:1519: checking whether the C++ compiler (c++ ) works
configure:1533: c++ -o conftest conftest.C 1>&5
/usr/i386-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lstdc++: No such file or directory
configure: failed program was:
#line 1529 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
main(){return(0);}
C++ is not a cross-compiler
--
END of config.log
I dont know why I have this problem with gcc.
The configure script is for Kvirc 0.8.0
Can you help me?
Thanks
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Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 Feb 1999 06:46:09 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis Epstein) writes:
> Chris Morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> :
> : > > What country uses # as a currency? :-(
> : >
> : > I think they are reffering to pound....England
> :
> : In Britain I always called it a hash symbol and � is the pound symbol
> : (hope that looks correct).
>
> Depends on the newsreader.In mine it appears as a u with a rising accent
> over it.
>
> Was the "hash symbol" ever used for pounds of weight there?
> (Before Brussels banned them?)
no.
> I always call "#" the "number sign" myself.
in the uk, the shifted three gives the proper pound symbol and what in
the us is displayed as # is in the uk shown as the wacky L.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:01:58 +0100
From: Joel Wijngaarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: special characters in UNIX how?
Hi,
does somebody know how you can do special charters in Linux like an 'e'
or an 'u' with two points on top. In Windows such things are done with
the ALT xxx keys.
Sincerely,
Joel
--
Joel Wijngaarde (Physics student)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quote:
"The final solution is possibly a little extreme - create a new
country - and then export all lawyers there. The Brit's tried
this with Australia, but somehow something went awry
somewhere along the line."
"Hrm. The whole of Europe did that with America and it seems to
have been moderately successful."
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Virus for Linux
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:26:13 -0600
Todd Knarr wrote:
>
> James R. Bunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Intel platforms you still have to be carefull of BSI's since they get
> > to the machine _before_ the OS loads. They can do a good job of clobbering
> > lilo. Probably the highest risk systems are those that dual-boot linux and
> > DOS/WinXX.
> Yep, but about all those do is trash LILO since they don't understand it.
No. Some, like "monkey" will move the partition table and
replace it with viral code and a pointer to the new
location. This may make the disk pretty much inaccessible
if you try to restore lilo by re-running it from a floppy
boot for example.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Lee Howes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win 95 Loadlin
Date: 28 Feb 1999 12:01:33 GMT
If anyone can help me with either of these problems please E-mail me (do
not reply to this message) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You
Firstly Is there a version of Loadlin (or similar) that can be run from
Win95 itself rather than rebooting into DOS or rebooting entirely and using
LILO).
Secondly I am having troubel getting either my PNP MODEM (Diamond
SupraExpress 336PNP) or Sound Card (Creative AWE 64 Value) to work under
Linux. However I try to configure it I get a message along the lines of
"Interrupt testg on IRQx failed, probable IRQ confict" but I cannot find a
confict (especially as all the IRQs used are the same as in Windows 95
which works). I have version 2.2.1 of the Kernel and Redhat 5.2 with a PNPN
bios. Do you have any suggestions that could suggest what I would be doing
wrong.
Thank you,
Lee Howes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:01:48 +0100
From: Robert Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: checking installed rpms
I'm missing some functions in the installed fvwm2 and would like to
check the installation.
I thought of using:
"rpm --verify fvwm2-2.0.46-18" <enter>
reaction:
"S.5....T /etc/X11/fvwm2/menus.rc"
Did I use the right command and what does the output mean?
Any comments are grately appreciated
Robert
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