Linux-Misc Digest #226, Volume #20 Sun, 16 May 99 13:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: RedHat price... (Explanations) (Mr. Fabulous)
Backup of raw disk image (Tony Wong)
Re: [?] problem w/ TeX under RH 6.0 (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Timothy Murphy)
kdbug (The Dude)
Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Tom Christiansen)
Re: RedHat price... (Explanations) ("Alessandro Carini")
Re: Outlook style apps for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Printing from Linux to NT (Piot Lee)
PCMCIA Memory Card & Linux? (Edwin Johnson)
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? (steve blakeway)
connect "business" to hackers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
A nice sig. ("Rich Mycroft")
Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available? (Frank)
Re: Q: Can Linux read IRIX (5.3) filesystem? ("Ron")
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? ("Roger")
Re: FTP with Resume feature? (Bob Nelson)
Netscape 4.51 (Bob Lockie)
Re: internet ("Lars Husted")
Re: FIXED(?): Staroffice/glibc problem (Fred Kuipers)
Re: Sony Vaio ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Fabulous)
Subject: Re: RedHat price... (Explanations)
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:09:07 GMT
During a restless day hobnobbing in comp.os.linux.misc,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Smoogen) quacked like a little penguin as
(s)he typed on the keyboard like so:
> Ok here are the reasons I know of for a "price hike" on the main boxed
> set:
OK. Respectfully: When all the rationalizations are tallied in my
head, I am jarred by the whopping $80.00 price for the RH official
boxed set, for something that inherently is free software.
Obviously the market will reach its dynamic equilibrium, my disquiet
means something in the end for Red Hat, though. Enjoy your weekend.
> 1) We added installation phone support to this product.
>
> 2) We added a new manual, and a lot more to the Linux Applications CD.
>
> 3) We would like to spend more money on RHAD labs (GNOME and other
> applications), helping Precision Insight with OpenGL, KDE group, FSF,
> and the various other projects that we dont "openly" promote
> ourselves in because we get flamed for "taking over Linux".
>
> 4) You have to pay for 100+ people's salaries that get the products
> together, marketed, and spend a lot of their time "legitimizing" it
> so that XYZ corporation will port their product to Linux. None of us
> here are getting rich on selling Linux, and we arent going to be with
> the price increase either.
>
> As others have said, everyone can get Red Hat Linux from a mirror site,
> from cheap bytes or anyone else with a Cdrom burner. I like to work for
> Red Hat because we make the entire install, configuration, and every
> other bit of code we can open source (the only exception I know of is
> stuff that went into Secure Web Server which we cant Open Source due to
> encryption laws :/). We dont close anything due to "Intellectual
> Property Rights" or other foofoo crap. The day that changes I am out of
> here, but I dont see that changing anytime.
>
>
> On Tue, 11 May 1999 15:53:50 GMT, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 11 May 1999 10:34:01 -0400, Johan Kullstam
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray) writes:
> >>
> >>> Personally, this has dead-set me against getting RedHat 6.0 as my
> >>> next Linux. It'll be Caldera or SuSE for me! Most likely the
> >>> latter...
> >>
> >>caldera and suse seem to be fine choices. a cd pressing of redhat-6.0
> >>from cheapbytes or linux systems for $2 (or whatever) is also viable.
> >>there's also debian.
> >>
> >>if $80 seems too high, take your business elsewhere. i see no
> >>reason for all this kvetching.
> >
> >Yes, I realize that a person can get RedHat for $2 or "free" over the
> >net, and *I* know there are choices. My "kvetching", as you call it,
> >is more directed toward the issue of getting new (very very new) users
> >over to the Linux OS, not people who already have a substantial amount
> >of knowledge about it. RedHat is the most "visible" distribution of
> >Linux available in retail outlets. When I go into Borders, CompUSA or
> >Fry's I see dozens of copies of RedHat, and maybe 1 or 2 copies, at
> >most, of Caldera or SuSE. When you price Linux at the same level as
> >Windows 98, people (again, the average Joe or Josephine who goes into
> >a store like those mentioned above and says "I'd like to try Linux!")
> >will expect it to have the same level of polish and ease-of-use as
> >Windows, and Linux ain't there yet. And, when they pay that $80, and
> >find it doesn't meet their expectations, a snowball of bad
> >word-of-mouth will generate and grow rapidly (eg, "Can you believe I
> >paid $80 for this and it doesn't even support USB?!") For the higher
> >price, more must be expected out of the OS. Whereas if someone pays
> >only $40 people are more likely to be forgiving of Linux's
> >shortcomings.
> >
> >*Personally* (unrelated to the issue of gaining new users), I don't
> >see the reason for such an extreme price hike, and see it as being
> >more motivated by greed on RedHat's part. They lost me as a customer
> >(not that they particularly care, I'd acknowledge) for any future
> >releases of their product.
> >
> >Ray
> >
--
Mr. Fabulous
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From: Tony Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Backup of raw disk image
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:59:37 +0100
Hi,
Is it possible for me to back up a Win98 drive using 'dd' or 'cat' onto
into a regular file on my Linux drive? (Win98 and Linux are on
physically separate drive) e.g.
% dd if=/dev/hdb of=/tmp/win98_raw_disk_img
or
% cat /dev/hdb > /tmp/win98_raw_disk_img
I don't know much about raw disk images some I'm sort of worried about
whether or not it will retain things like the filesystem type (FAT32)
etc, and also can I safely recover the whole Win98 drive by executing
the reverse command i.e.
% dd if=/tmp/win98_raw_disk_img of=/dev/hdb
or
% cat /tmp/win98_raw_disk_img > /dev/hdb
Please reply by email (remove the necessary section from my email
address).
Thanks in advance
Tony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: [?] problem w/ TeX under RH 6.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:35:37 GMT
On 16 May 1999 09:50:18 -0400, John Forkosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>snip
>: and give us the results. Meanwhile, I'll look at the SRPM. (I'm currently
>: in the middle of testing all the 6.0 SRPMs and boy are they broken...)
>This is somewhat off original topic (sorry)...
> At the April meeting of LUNY (Linux Users of New York),
>Ransom Love and a few cohorts spoke about Caldera. One point they
>emphasized is that you could cleanly rebuild the entire distribution
>from their "pristine" sources. Can you remark about the accuracy
>of that claim?
Putatively true, although actually getting *all* of the packages to compile
from the "pristine" sources may prove challenging without having all of the
packages installed already.
A source RPM file consists of three things:
a) The pristine sources,
b) One or more patches to the pristine sources, and
c) A "spec" file indicating how a) and b) are to be assembled into a binary
RPM file, and, implicitly, how to construct the source RPM file.
As a result, if you have the suitable software and libraries installed that
are required to compile the application, you should always be thus able to
construct the binary RPM.
Milage will primarily vary depending on what development tools you have
installed at any given time.
There may be some "bootstrap" problems if, in order to compile an
application, you already need to have it installed. For instance, you need
GCC installed in order to compile GCC.
The other major problem that may occur is that if you have every development
tool known to man installed, a tool that uses autoconf to detect system
configuration so as to know what facilities it has access to might thereby
push into the binary RPM file a dependency on software that might not be
available to someone else trying to install it.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Date: 16 May 1999 16:04:04 +0100
Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>What I want in a man page is EXAMPLES.
I agree completely.
There are a few man entries with examples --
I was going to say "tar",
but now I see that the Linux man page has no examples,
while at least 2 other Unix systems I have used do.
In fact, Linux is far worse in this regard
than most Unix systems -- I can't think why.
It should be easy enough to add examples --
there is actually a standard entry for them
in the man roff macros.
It would be a good project, it seems to me,
for Linux users to get together on this.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: The Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kdbug
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:04:44 GMT
Hi,I'm using kdbug application for debugging my apps.
I would like to know what flags do I have to put in my makefile in
order to set breakpoints afterwards using kdbug. I tried CFLAGS = -g
but it didn't work. I opened the exec file and the source file, but
couldn't set them in any way.
--
Regards
The Dude
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 16 May 1999 09:15:33 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.os.linux.misc,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy) writes:
:but now I see that the Linux man page has no examples,
:while at least 2 other Unix systems I have used do.
:In fact, Linux is far worse in this regard
:than most Unix systems -- I can't think why.
^other
Yes, the Linux manpages are an embarrassment. Take, for example, the
manpages for tty(4) or diff(1) on a Linux systems compared with those
on a BSD system. It would be laughable if it didn't make you cry.
And that's why abandoned Linux for BSD whenever I need to get real
work done.
--tom
--
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(M. Sakkinen, in "On the Darker Side of C++", ECOOP'88)
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From: "Alessandro Carini" <alessandro.carini@don't.spam.here>
Subject: Re: RedHat price... (Explanations)
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:01:08 +0200 (CES)
Reply-To: "Alessandro Carini" <alessandro.carini@don't.spam.here>
On 16 May 1999 13:18:01 GMT, Steve Smoogen wrote:
>1) We added installation phone support to this product.
Pleasem give this as an options, it's not useful for people outside U.S.
>As others have said, everyone can get Red Hat Linux from a mirror site,
>from cheap bytes or anyone else with a Cdrom burner. I like to work for
Good, but what about a "upgrade" price?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://users.iol.it/alessandro.carini/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Outlook style apps for Linux?
Date: 16 May 1999 13:43:50 GMT
In his obvious haste, Rob Brown-Bayliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Hi all,
: Are there any e-mail and contact style apps (like outlook 98 in windows)
: for Linux...
Nope. Linux e-mailer clients WORK.
:)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Piot Lee)
Subject: Printing from Linux to NT
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:36:56 GMT
Is it possible to use the printer of my NT server from my linux box?
I have a Laserjet 2 compatible printer and TCP/IP and lpd etc on NT
installed, but I don't know how to configure samba to access my the
printer on NT from my linux (suse 6.1)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Subject: PCMCIA Memory Card & Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 May 1999 15:24:45 GMT
Does Linux recognize the PCMCIA memory cards?
I want to use a Compact Flash Card -> PCMCIA adapter in order to read
digital camera files (jpg) stored on its Compact Flash. According to
description this PCMCIA card, which allows insertion of a Compact Flash
card, acts as a memory card. I don't have this device yet, so don't know
just what kind, if any, software is included with it.
Thanks for any input. ...Edwin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve blakeway)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:33:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 13 May 1999 11:43:08 -0700, Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I sure wished Redhat would change their installation procedure to keep lilo out of
>the mbr. That
>would also cut down on the amount of newsgroup questions on this topic.
>
>-Joe
I'm sure you mean "out of the mbr completely" because Redhat gives you
option of installing lilo elsewhere (superblock).
steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: connect "business" to hackers
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:30:54 GMT
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"business" world, and
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that we have been
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If you are interested, contact us, e-mail,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or,
1-888-659-0736.
Maybe if you don't have some ideas about this, you
could point me in the
right direction.
Thanks.
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From: "Rich Mycroft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A nice sig.
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:46:54 -0400
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't
suck is probably the day they start making
vacuum cleaners.
rich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank)
Subject: Re: HOW do I make command aliases always available?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:31:23 GMT
I have fix my alias problem using the /etc/profile. And I understand
better than before why my scripts won't work and why i need to source
them. thanks to all who helped me.
frank
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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: Can Linux read IRIX (5.3) filesystem?
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:42:18 +0200
Reply-To: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thank y'all!
JD, def. not iso-9660 (or iso-whatever for that matter;-), tried it on the
Linux-box, no way...
This SGI is sooo cool;-)) But it doesn't have the manpages installed.
Wonderful, spec. because those are on one of them cd's.
Gianni Mariani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> The IRIX CD's used to be written using the efs file system. I believe
there is
> an experimental SGI efs file system available for Linux.
>
> Check out :
> http://aeschi.ch.eu.org/efs/
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Ron scribbled manically:
> >
> > : I have an SGI-box, a Linux box, a Win98-box.
> > : I also have a couple of SGI-cd's (patches / newer version) but no
player in
> > : the SGI-box.
> >
> > : Q: What options do I have, without bying a player for the SGI...
> >
> > No responses to this? Well, let me give it a shot. I believe
that
> > CDROMs are always in what's called ISO9660 format - that is to say,
_not_
> > a FAT, ext2, UFS, or any other kind of filesystem. Therefore, you
should
> > be able to mount the CDs in the linux box, then NFS-mount the CDROM
drive from
> > the SGI and read it that way. This should work fine if you just want to
read
> > files off the CDs. If you actually want to do an install from CD, I
don't
> > know if it's going to work.
> >
> > JD
> >
> > ps You lucky dog...I want an SGI! <g> An old one - the old logo
rules,
> > the new logo sucks.
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From: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:30:49 -0400
Thats like saying that microsoft should do away with all that unnecessary
clicking and stuff and just put one big red button that says click here.
Installing in to the MBR or superblock is what unix systems do. Where is the
complaint. It really shows you have no idea of what you are doing. All
operating systems inspect the MBR or write to it even win9x. This is the
architecture of pc computers vs OS integration.
so just "fdisk /mbr " and readup on something you don't possibly
understand.
Taggert.
Unix / NT system Engineer
steve blakeway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
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From: Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP with Resume feature?
Date: 16 May 1999 11:39:21 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rob Brown-Bayliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can some one recoment a download or FTP prog for linux that supports
> resume?
wget
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From: Bob Lockie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.51
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:47:29 GMT
Why are the keys different between versions?
Shift-c but Alt-Shift-c for Windows.
My previous version opened a window for the selected newsgroup.
The new one displays the preview in the same window as the subscribed
newsgroups.
I like the old way better, how do I can my settings?
I looked in preferences but didn't see anything.
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From: "Lars Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,jaring.pcbase,linux.redhat.misc,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: internet
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:47:26 +0200
Hi,
I had the same problems, but downloaded and tried EzPPP. It works great.
You can get it at: http://ledanet.linuxberg.com/x11html/net_ppp.html
Regards,
Lars
Murni & Hamid wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Saravanan Govindasamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> How do i get connected on the internet thru Linux? I tried the PPP dialup
>> utility. My modem dials up and gets connected, a few seconds and then
>> disconnects with the error message "The pppd daemon died Unexpectedly".
>
>There are few possibilities:
>
>1. You don't have PPPD support compiled as a module inside your kernel.
>2. You've it configured inside the kernel but forgotten to do 'make
>modules; make modules_install'.
>3. Your PPPD died because of LCP timeout (error in negotiation) either
>when you're using script or PAP
>
>--
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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FIXED(?): Staroffice/glibc problem
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:04:24 GMT
Ok, out of desparation, I tried this. It didn't work. I still can't even
install the program. Here's what happens.
After I copied setup to setup.bin and made a symbolic link setup ->
setup.bin, I try running ./setup /net and get the regular message saying it
couldn't find the libraries and then the icon size message and then this:
/tmp/sv002.tmp/startup.sh: /tmp/sv002.tmp/setup.bin: No such file or
directory
/tmp/sv002.tmp/startup.sh: /tmp/sv002.tmp/setup.bin: No such file or
directory
and then the prompt again...
Any suggestions?
Peter Englmaier wrote:
> Yet another solution for the Staroffice/glibc problems.
>
> RH6.0 has problems with old glibc-2.0.7 binaries. Staroffice and
> many other programs do not work with the new glibc. Here is
> a workaround based on the 'misc. binary format' feature of
> the linux kernel. Even printing seems to work (at least for me).
> Please post if this does or does not work for you. Staroffice
> still gives some error message at startup, but works fine.
>
> Note: This may also fix other problems reported with the glibc.
>
> 0) do *not* modify any staroffice scripts or binaries... (the easy
> step first)
>
> 1) install the rpm's for
> compat-glibc-5.2-2.0.7.1
> compat-libs-5.2-1
>
> 2) install the appended wrapper file in
> /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-wrapper
> and do
> chmod a=rx /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-wrapper
> This file will be used to run old applications.
>
> 3) install the appended rc.binfmt file below in /etc/rc.d/
> make it execute:
> chmod a=rx rc.binfmt
> run rc.binfmt to activate it. If it produces error
> messages, you probably have no misc. binary format
> compiled in the kernel. You want to call the
> file from /etc/rc.d/rc.serial as well (add a line
> saying '/etc/rc.d/rc.binfmt'.
>
> This works as follows: when the kernel is asked to 'execute' a
> binary with extension '.bin', it runs the wrapper file instead.
> The wrapper loads the binary with the 'right' loader. To run
> other old binaries, e.g. 'goodie', simply do:
> mv goodie goodie.bin
> ln -s goodie.bin goodie
>
> BTW, if somebody finds out the 'magic' bytes of old binaries,
> the script could be triggered using the magic fingerprint.
>
> Peter.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ld-wrapper:
> #!/bin/sh
> # wrapper for old glibc binaries
>
> p=`basename $1`
> if [ "$p" = "soffice.bin" -o "$p" = "psetup.bin" -o "$p" = "setup.bin"
> ]; then
> exec /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path
> /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH "$@"
> fi
>
> exec /lib/ld-linux.so.2 "$@"
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rc.binfmt
> #!/bin/sh
>
> if /sbin/modprobe binfmt_misc.o ; then
> # clear register first
> echo -1 >/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/status
> REGISTER=/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register
> # old glibc
> echo ':oldglibc:E::bin::/usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-wrapper:'
> >${REGISTER}
> fi
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Subject: Re: Sony Vaio
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:59:09 GMT
According to Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I really like the formfactor, but I wonder if not the slightly larger
> (but thinner) 505 with the larger screen is stil the better machine.
>
> There are a number of programs that expect to have at least 1024x768,
> and while the 1024x480 screen on the PCG is a model of clarity and
> generally pretty nice, it does sometime fall short due to the limited
> height.
I've already got a "three spindle" (HD, CD, FD permantly mounted)
laptop with a gorgeous 13.3" 0124x768 TFT display, but the bugger
weighs in at some 8+ lbs. not counting the case to protect it.
Because of the type of work that I do, this machine is basically my
complete office (sans net link) and I can pretty much work from
wherever I choose to be. I am considering spending a fair bit of time
hopping from one motorcycle rally to another this summer and as small
as my current office is, there is not room for a single additional
item on the bike -- except perhaps for that VIAO.
WRT screen size, I spent a good 10 years working on a VT-100 so I know
that I could work with that much real estate at one point. I'm not
quite convinced that I could go back again, though..
-p.
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ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
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sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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